Videos: Opie and Anthony Pwn Troofers

[Good Lt]

Enjoy (three parts). (http://extruther.blogspot.com/2007/12/opie-and-anthony-vs-troofers.html)

If someone wants to be a dear and embed the vids, feel free.

Watching the random Troofers get spun in circles is like watching a slow-motion trainwreck of conspiratorial lunacy and ignorance.

Ht to Mikey Metz (ex-Truther)

[Drudgewire]

Hahahaha, I love O&A. Of course it helps these guys are total idiots.

[dudalb]

I am not a big O and A fan (for me the laughs in Toilet Humor wore thin a long time ago)
but that was drop dead funny.

[Drudgewire]

O&A had to grow beyond (just) toilet humor or they'd have died out long ago. For years I couldn't stand even a mention of them, but it turns out they're pretty smart guys.

[Pardalis]

Someone should tell them that Ben Chertoff is not the nefew of Michael Chertoff.

[Gravy]

Holy brain trauma, what desperately stupid people.

[Drudgewire]

Someone should tell them that Ben Chertoff is not the nefew of Michael Chertoff.

And that Ben didn't write the article.

[ElMondoHummus]

And I love the fact that the whole official story is a "fark".

Honestly, you can't spuf these guys... you'd think they'd be so open to lambpunning, but whatever you come up with just can't compet.

[Brainster]

They had my good buddy Jon Gold on with them one time and razzed him right off the air. They'd let him speak, but in the background they'd be saying "Jerk", "Creep", "Moron", and quite a bit less complimentary things. IIRC they had Korey on one time and got him stammering so bad that he had to hand the phone off to Jason.:D

[slugmancs]

They had my good buddy Jon Gold on with them one time and razzed him right off the air. They'd let him speak, but in the background they'd be saying "Jerk", "Creep", "Moron", and quite a bit less complimentary things. IIRC they had Korey on one time and got him stammering so bad that he had to hand the phone off to Jason.:D
Korey did sound like an idiot but I have my own conspiracy theory that he did not hand the phone to Jason and they just said that because he can't take criticism. Could be wrong but I though the Jon Gold thing was on Ron & Fez also on XM.

[tomwaits]

fark? FARK??? and they complain about being ridiculed???

[Brainster]

Korey did sound like an idiot but I have my own conspiracy theory that he did not hand the phone to Jason and they just said that because he can't take criticism. Could be wrong but I though the Jon Gold thing was on Ron & Fez also on XM.

Gold appeared on both shows, but Opie & Anthony (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9030) was definitely the one where they mocked him while he spoke.

And Korey definitely handed off the phone to Jason; if you've listened to them as much as I have, you'd know the difference.

[T.A.M.]

My Irony meter blew a gasket when the bearded guy tells them they are "being nit picky" etc...

Hello, the entire truth movement is based on little alleged inconsistencies.

Nice job O & A.

TAM:)

[T.A.M.]

"Angry Young Boy" - truth movement incapsulated into one phrase....sweet.

TAM:)

[Drudgewire]

"Angry Young Boy" - truth movement incapsulated into one phrase....sweet.

TAM:)
Yeah, it's good stuff up until angry young boy storms off. Then it's GREAT. :D

[WildCat]

Someone should tell them that Ben Chertoff is not the nefew of Michael Chertoff.

And that Ben didn't write the article.

Actually, I liked that he let the troofer run with it and spell it out, thus exposing how ridiculous it sounds when said out loud and provided the perfect setup for the question that followed.

[tomwaits]

first ben chertoff was his brother, then his cousin, now his nephew? which is it?

[Pardalis]

I kind of feel sorry for them, especially that portly guy and the girl. They obviously haven't thought it through, and probably can't (they probably don't have the necessary critical thinking skills).

[T.A.M.]

I kind of feel sorry for them, especially that portly guy and the girl. They obviously haven't thought it through, and probably can't (they probably don't have the necessary critical thinking skills).

And that, in a nutshell, is how they are able to convert so many, and why we are here...

TAM:)

[Drudgewire]

I kind of feel sorry for them, especially that portly guy and the girl. They obviously haven't thought it through, and probably can't (they probably don't have the necessary critical thinking skills).
"Thinking it through" isn't really encouraged by the truth movement. :p

[MarkyX]

Nephew?

Yeah, these guys can't even get their facts straight. It would've been fun to point out that the rumor started from Holocaust Denier Chris Bollyn and rub it in the truther's faces that he goes with holocaust deniers then engineers who were at Ground Zero :)

[WildCat]

"little bearded angry man" looks a lot like chucksheen.

[Open Blinded]

If you want to hear the complete audio discussing 911 I edited it and uploaded it to a file sharing site. If you would like the link just PM me (cant post links yet).

[T.A.M.]

Welcome to the forum Open Blinded.

TAM:)

[negativ]

At some point in my life, I'm going to have to come to grips with the notion that the world really is as stupid as I suspect it to be. :(

[Brainster]

Mikey Metz discovered that two of the Troofers shown in that confrontation are now feuding (http://extruther.blogspot.com/2007/12/update-troofer-infighting-after-o.html) because things went so badly for them. Apparently from the discussion going on, the bad blood appears to go back to the whole Les Jamieson/We Are Change schism earlier in the year (congratulate yourself if you don't know what I'm talking about).

[T.A.M.]

I love how they think Luke and Matt wouldn't have been owned. Yah right. The only difference is Luke would have been "Angry Young Boy" and Matt would have been "useless tool".

Sorry...did I go too far.

TAM:)

[Drudgewire]

Mikey Metz discovered that two of the Troofers shown in that confrontation are now feuding (http://extruther.blogspot.com/2007/12/update-troofer-infighting-after-o.html) because things went so badly for them. Apparently from the discussion going on, the bad blood appears to go back to the whole Les Jamieson/We Are Change schism earlier in the year (congratulate yourself if you don't know what I'm talking about).
Hahahahah, angry young boy is calling O&A jerks while the other guys at least shook their hands and thanked them for providing a forum.

NOTE TO THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THAT VIDEO: You know how you see "Angry Young Boy" now? That's how the rest of us see your whole movement. I understand and respect your passion, now take the time to learn you're wasting it on a lie and channel it towards something more productive.

NOTE TO ANGRY YOUNG BOY:

:dl:

[8den]

And Korey definitely handed off the phone to Jason; if you've listened to them as much as I have, you'd know the difference.

Link? Pleeeeeaaaaaaaseeeee tiny baby Jesus let there be a link.

[Drudgewire]

Link? Pleeeeeaaaaaaaseeeee tiny baby Jesus let there be a link.
They keep saying they're going to replay it on one of the days they're off and a "best of" airs, but I don't think they've done so yet.

I posted a clip where they discussed it (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=96463&highlight=opie) (they say eventually they just had to hang up because the guys were so stupid) but the file was removed for inactivity. If there's interest I'll re-up it tonight.

[Brainster]

Link? Pleeeeeaaaaaaaseeeee tiny baby Jesus let there be a link.

Here you go (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9KFZPZ70). It's Megaupload so you've gotta type in the three letters at the top right and wait 45 seconds. The transition from Korey to Jason takes place at about 8:15 into the clip; you can tell because the hosts are sitting there saying "Korey? Korey? He's got nothing."

[Drudgewire]

Here you go (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9KFZPZ70). It's Megaupload so you've gotta type in the three letters at the top right and wait 45 seconds. The transition from Korey to Jason takes place at about 8:15 into the clip; you can tell because the hosts are sitting there saying "Korey? Korey? He's got nothing."
Awesome. Thanks. http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/hfive.gif

[tomwaits]

The O&A thing is amazing. They accuse firefighters and tons of other people of being complicit in murdering 3000 americans, and label anyone who doesn't agree with them ignorant cowards. When they are called out on it, all of a sudden they get mad and sulk away because skeptics are a bunch of BIG MEANIES. Grow up.

[Alferd_Packer]

It seems that the Angry Young Boy was a virgin.


Those guys are XXXXing jerks and it was my first time. Cut me some slack.

[tomwaits]

Those guys are XXXXing jerks and it was my first time. Cut me some slack.

Then maybe he shouldn't have tried to call them ignorant cowards when they asked him basic questions about his bizarre theories.

[Vincent Vega]

Gotta love Jim Norton. "Angry little boy!"

Apparently "Angry young man" is Patrick Moroney

http://photos1.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/4/e/4/e/member_2900046.jpeg

here...http://9-11.meetup.com/321/members/5724230/

[Vincent Vega]

Here's one of their MASSIVE protests...

http://photos4.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/9/8/e/a/highres_1539146.jpeg

[Pardalis]

Here's one of their MASSIVE protests...

http://photos4.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/9/8/e/a/highres_1539146.jpeg

Is the massive protest hidden behind that sign?

[Brainster]

Hmmm, the "hook'em horns" thing seems to be spreading; here's another one (http://9-11.meetup.com/321/members/5017398/) of the participants in the O&A spectacular:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_97774755c977bc320.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=9573)

Note that she also identifies herself as NY9-11 Truth, not We Are Change.

This kind of stuff (the symbols) amuses me to no end. It's like the blackshirts, so easily parodized that you do almost have to wonder if somebody on the inside is making it easy for us.

[Drudgewire]

Gotta love Jim Norton. "Angry little boy!"

Apparently "Angry young man" is Patrick Moroney

http://photos1.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/4/e/4/e/member_2900046.jpeg

here...http://9-11.meetup.com/321/members/5724230/
Thought criminal? He must have been holding it for a friend. :p

[StickMan2008]

first ben chertoff was his brother, then his cousin, now his nephew? which is it?

That argument is shill disinformation at its finest.

Nevermind the fact that Popular Mechanics attacks the investigative 9/11 movement straw man with appeal to unqualified authority and uncited sources.

Let's focus on the relationship between the writer of the article and someone who works for the USG.

Hell if we're talking guilt by association let's not even mention PM is owned by Hearst who wrote the book on yellow journalism.

Because we don't want facts. We want rumors to discredit any investigative research into the event.


I gotta tell you, they have some pretty intelligent people covering the PR.

Wolf and sheep's clothing. Pure genius

[Pardalis]

Hell if we're talking guilt by association let's not even mention PM is owned by Hearst who wrote the book on yellow journalism.

Because we don't want facts. We want rumors to discredit any investigative research into the event.

:rolleyes:

[TheRedWorm]

Hey Stickman, since you brought it up, how do you distinguish between "shill disinformation" and a real statement from a conspiratorially inclined individual?

[joobz]

I think Jim Norton's perfect for arguing with troofers. As a comedian, I can take it or leave it. He's gets a little too gross for my tastes.

But I love how he has his own verbal good cop, bad cop approach. He calmly asks a very reasonable question. The moment the troofer displays any sign of attack, he responsds with treating him like a child.

[Blackwell]

...Hell if we're talking guilt by association let's not even mention PM is owned by Hearst who wrote the book on yellow journalism...

And Hearst is....?
In your own words, please, if you don't mind.

[CptColumbo]

That argument is shill disinformation at its finest.

Nevermind the fact that Popular Mechanics attacks the investigative 9/11 movement straw man with appeal to unqualified authority and uncited sources.

Let's focus on the relationship between the writer of the article and someone who works for the USG.

Hell if we're talking guilt by association let's not even mention PM is owned by Hearst who wrote the book on yellow journalism.

Because we don't want facts. We want rumors to discredit any investigative research into the event.


I gotta tell you, they have some pretty intelligent people covering the PR.

Wolf and sheep's clothing. Pure genius
1. Except for a possible distant family relationship(5th cousin or greater), the two men have never met and one has no obvious influence on the other.

2. Chertoff was one of seven writers on the piece, not a "fact checker" as the person in the video says. None of the other writers have come forward to say their article was tampered with.

3. There were over 300 researchers on the article, none of whom have come forward to dispute what was reported.

4. "Yellow Journalism" is a term (as it is applied to Hearst) that refers to sensationalism.

5. The Spanish-American War was almost 110 years ago.

6. William Randolph Hearst died in 1951, the Hearst Corporation (which he lost control of in the 40s) bought Popular Mechanics in the mid 50s.

[joobz]

That argument is shill disinformation at its finest.

Nevermind the fact that Popular Mechanics attacks the investigative 9/11 movement straw man with appeal to unqualified authority and uncited sources.

Let's focus on the relationship between the writer of the article and someone who works for the USG.

Hell if we're talking guilt by association let's not even mention PM is owned by Hearst who wrote the book on yellow journalism.

Because we don't want facts. We want rumors to discredit any investigative research into the event.


I gotta tell you, they have some pretty intelligent people covering the PR.

Wolf and sheep's clothing. Pure genius
I really couldn't follow the argument in here at all. Is there an argument?

[tomwaits]

That argument is shill disinformation at its finest.


I have to admit, I'm a bit proud. This, as far as I know, is the first time someone has specifically called me a "shill". Do I get a badge?

[Drudgewire]

That argument is shill disinformation at its finest.

Nevermind the fact that Popular Mechanics attacks the investigative 9/11 movement straw man with appeal to unqualified authority and uncited sources.

Let's focus on the relationship between the writer of the article and someone who works for the USG.

Hell if we're talking guilt by association let's not even mention PM is owned by Hearst who wrote the book on yellow journalism.

Because we don't want facts. We want rumors to discredit any investigative research into the event.


I gotta tell you, they have some pretty intelligent people covering the PR.

Wolf and sheep's clothing. Pure genius
Please debunk any part of the Popular Mechanics book. You know, the one where they don't claim pancake theory anymore so any part besides that.

[Vincent Vega]

Hey Stickman, since you brought it up, how do you distinguish between "shill disinformation" and a real statement from a conspiratorially inclined individual?

If he disagrees with it it's "disinformation". And how many "real statements" have you seen a truther make? They're JUST ASKING QUESTIONS after all.

[Reality Believer]

Hmmm, the "hook'em horns" thing seems to be spreading; here's another one (http://9-11.meetup.com/321/members/5017398/) of the participants in the O&A spectacular:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_97774755c977bc320.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=9573)

Note that she also identifies herself as NY9-11 Truth, not We Are Change.

This kind of stuff (the symbols) amuses me to no end. It's like the blackshirts, so easily parodized that you do almost have to wonder if somebody on the inside is making it easy for us.
OMG! She has an NWO kitty hat! I want one!

[T.A.M.]

That argument is shill disinformation at its finest.

Nevermind the fact that Popular Mechanics attacks the investigative 9/11 movement straw man with appeal to unqualified authority and uncited sources.

Let's focus on the relationship between the writer of the article and someone who works for the USG.

Hell if we're talking guilt by association let's not even mention PM is owned by Hearst who wrote the book on yellow journalism.

Because we don't want facts. We want rumors to discredit any investigative research into the event.


I gotta tell you, they have some pretty intelligent people covering the PR.

Wolf and sheep's clothing. Pure genius

1. Please provide us with your evidence that they use UNQUALIFIED AUTHORITY, or UNCITED (not a word by the way) SOURCES.

2. Please name one STRAWMAN (look it up first) that PM uses.

3. There is not one debunker here who WANTS to focus on the author of the PM book. It is the truth movement, including the MORON on the O&A video, who brings it up.

Research away...its been 6 years, what ya got?

TAM:)

[CHF]

Nevermind the fact that Popular Mechanics attacks the investigative 9/11 movement straw man with appeal to unqualified authority and uncited sources.

"Strawman?"

No plane hit the Pentagon?
Flight 93 shot down?
WTC controlled demolitions?

Exactly which PM point was a "strawman?"

[tomwaits]

It's easy to be a truther, just keep saying "strawman ad hominem shill disinformation sheep" as fast as you can as many times as you can.

[T.A.M.]

I bet you can't say it 110 times in 10 seconds....therefore 9/11 must be an inside job.

TAM:)

[MarkyX]

Nevermind the fact that Popular Mechanics attacks the investigative 9/11 movement straw man with appeal to unqualified authority and uncited sources.


What strawman arguments? You can't even name one.

And to talk about unqualified/uncited sources, you should read the end of the article where they list people. Meanwhile, you have a radio host who thinks 9/11 was a Satantic Ritual, a theologion who believes in reincarnation, and a mormon professor who thinks Jesus walked around in North America. You guys have the monopoly on the Unqualified bit, and most of your information is from anonymous people.


Let's focus on the relationship between the writer of the article and someone who works for the USG.


Problem is they are not related and the person you are accusing wasn't even the writer.


Hell if we're talking guilt by association let's not even mention PM is owned by Hearst who wrote the book on yellow journalism.


Ad-hom much? Nevermindthe yellow journalism event associated with Hearst happened over a hundred years ago and this does not argue the fact that PM has contacted proper experts on the subject as well as those involved in the investigations. Are you seriously suggesting all those who helped PM write the book/article are liars?

Again, do I really need to point out that your movement's experts are folks who believe in the supernatural or weren't even near ground zero to investigate?


Because we don't want facts. We want rumors to discredit any investigative research into the event.


At least you're admitting what your movement is about.

[Alareth]

OMG! She has an NWO kitty hat! I want one!


Actually, it's not NWO Kitty. it's Kuroneko Sama (http://www.absoluteanime.com/trigun/kuroneko.htm) from the Trigun series

[CHF]

The stupid girl in that video looks devastated when called on her "fake phone call" nonsense.

[Mr.Herbert]

She's kind of cute... dumb as a stump... but cute.

ok... change the "cute" to "young" ... shes still in "Prep School" ... YIKES... looks like my Avatar is fitting!

[bynmdsue]

Popular Mechanics' "Debunking 9/11 Myths" sources for StickMan2008


Air Crash Analysis
Cleveland Center regional air traffic control

Bill Crowley special agent, FBI

Ron Dokell president, Demolition Consultants

Richard Gazarik staff writer, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

Yates Gladwell pilot, VF Corp.

Michael K. Hynes, Ed.D.,
ATP, CFI, A&P/IA president, Hynes Aviation Services; expert, aviation crashes

Ed Jacoby Jr. director,
New York State Emergency Management Office (Ret.); chairman, New York State Disaster Preparedness Commission (Ret.)

Johnstown-Cambria County Airport Authority

Cindi Lash staff writer, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Matthew McCormick manager, survival factors division, National Transportation Safety Board (Ret.)

Wallace Miller coroner, Somerset County, PA

Robert Nagan meteorological technician, Climate Services Branch, National Climatic Data Center

Dave Newell director, aviation and travel, VF Corp.

James O’Toole politics editor, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Pennsylvania State Police Public Information Office

Jeff Pillets senior writer,
The Record, Hackensack, NJ

Jeff Rienbold director, Flight 93 National Memorial, National Park Service

Dennis Roddy staff writer, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Master Sgt. David Somdahl public affairs officer,
119th Wing, North Dakota
Air National Guard

Mark Stahl photographer; eyewitness, United Airlines Flight 93 crash scene

Air Defense
Lt. Col. Skip Aldous (Ret.) squadron commander,
U.S. Air Force

Tech. Sgt. Laura Bosco public affairs officer,
Tyndall Air Force Base

Boston Center regional air traffic control

Laura Brown spokeswoman,
Federal Aviation Administration

Todd Curtis, Ph.D. founder, Airsafe.com; president, Airsafe.com Foundation

Keith Halloway public affairs officer, National Transportation Safety Board

Ted Lopatkiewicz director, public affairs, National Transportation Safety Board

Maj. Douglas Martin public affairs officer,
North American Aerospace Defense Command

Lt. Herbert McConnell public affairs officer,
Andrews AFB

Michael Perini public affairs officer, North American Aerospace Defense Command

John Pike director, GlobalSecurity.org

Hank Price spokesman, Federal
Aviation Administration

Warren Robak RAND Corp.

Bill Shumann spokesman,
Federal Aviation Administration

Louis Walsh public affairs officer, Eglin AFB

Chris Yates aviation security editor, analyst, Jane’s Transport

Aviation
Fred E.C. Culick, Ph.D., S.B., S.M. professor of aeronautics, California Institute of Technology

Robert Everdeen public affairs, Northrop Grumman

Clint Oster professor of public and environmental affairs, Indiana University; aviation safety expert

Capt. Bill Scott (Ret. USAF) Rocky Mountain bureau chief, Aviation Week
Bill Uher News Media Office, NASA Langley Research Center

Col. Ed Walby (Ret. USAF)
director, business development, HALE Systems Enterprise, Unmanned Systems, Northrop Grumman

Image Analysis
William F. Baker member, FEMA Probe Team; partner, Skidmore, Owings, Merrill

W. Gene Corley, Ph.D., P.E., S.E. senior vice president, CTL Group; director,
FEMA Probe Team

Bill Daly senior vice president, Control Risks Group

Steve Douglass image analysis consultant, Aviation Week

Thomas R. Edwards, Ph.D. founder, TREC; video forensics expert.

Ronald Greeley, Ph.D. professor of geology, Arizona State University

Rob Howard freelance photographer; WTC eyewitness

Robert L. Parker, Ph.D. professor of geophysics,
University of California, San Diego

Structural Engineering / Building Collapse
Farid Alfawakhiri, Ph.D. senior engineer, American Institute of Steel Construction

David Biggs, P.E. structural engineer, Ryan-Biggs Associates; member, ASCE team for FEMA report

Robert Clarke structural engineer, Controlled Demolitions Group Ltd.

Glenn Corbett technical editor, Fire Engineering; member, NIST advisory committee

Vincent Dunn deputy fire chief (Ret.), FDNY; author, The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety

John Fisher, Ph.D. professor of civil engineering, Lehigh University; professor emeritus, Center for Advanced Technology; member, FEMA Probe Team

Ken Hays executive vice president, Masonry Arts

Christoph Hoffmann, Ph.D. professor of computer science, Purdue University; project director, September 11 Pentagon Attack Simulations Using LS-Dyna, Purdue University

Allyn E. Kilsheimer, P.E.
CEO, KCE Structural Engineers PC; chief structural engineer, Phoenix project; expert in blast recovery, concrete structures, emergency response

Won-Young Kim, Ph.D. seismologist, Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University

William Koplitz photo desk manager, FEMA

John Labriola freelance photographer, WTC survivor

Arthur Lerner-Lam, Ph.D. seismologist; director,
Earth Institute, Center for Hazards and Risk Research, Columbia University

James Quintiere, Ph.D. professor of engineering, University of Maryland member, NIST advisory committee

Steve Riskus freelance photographer; eyewitness, Pentagon crash

Van Romero, Ph.D. vice president, New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology

Christine Shaffer spokesperson, Viracon

Mete Sozen, Ph.D., S.E. Kettelhut Distinguished Professor of Structural Engineering, Purdue University; member, Pentagon Building Performance Report; project conception, September 11 Pentagon Attack Simulations Using LS-Dyna, Purdue University

Shyam Sunder, Sc.D.
acting deputy director, lead investigator, Building and Fire Research Laboratory, National Institute of Standards and Technology

Mary Tobin science writer, media relations, Earth Institute, Columbia University

Forman Williams, Ph.D. professor of engineering, physics, combustion, University of California,
San Diego; member, advisory committee, National Institute of Standards and Technology

[bje]

Poster mock-up for a new comedy film about the 9/11 Truth Movement (http://tinyurl.com/26k799) in the genre of Mel Brooks's "Blazing Saddles (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Blazing_saddles_movie_poster.jpg)." World Premiere is tentatively scheduled for March 11, 2008 in New York City.

:alc:

[WildCat]

This kind of stuff (the symbols) amuses me to no end. It's like the blackshirts, so easily parodized that you do almost have to wonder if somebody on the inside is making it easy for us.
The shirt is the Dead Kennedys logo.

I wonder if Jello Biafra thinks 9/11 was an inside job?

[A W Smith]

The shirt is the Dead Kennedys logo.

I wonder if Jello Biafra thinks 9/11 was an inside job?


perhaps Gunita (http://9-11.meetup.com/321/members/5017398/) Holidays in Cambodia?

[Good Lt]

I wonder if Jello Biafra thinks 9/11 was an inside job?

I think Jello Biafra is an inside job.

And I don't even know what that means. :boggled:

[Kiosk]

I wonder if Jello Biafra thinks 9/11 was an inside job?

Apparently he doesn't, and has a pretty low opinion of those who do. Must really piss off a lot of his fans.

Nice to know, anyway - not because I spend any time wondering what Jello Biafra thinks of anything (I don't even remember hearing his voice since about 1991). Just because I used to like his group when I was about 16, so I have a soft spot for him. Ahh, hanging out with the good old anarcho-syndicalists in derelict houses, smoking lousy hash and trying to explain to some girl with pink hair why I didn't think putting glue in the locks of the local butcher's shop was very constructive, with "California Uber Alles" blasting away in the background. Them was rotten days.

[qarnos]

Note that she also identifies herself as NY9-11 Truth, not We Are Change.

She also has this to say:

I am a filmmaker, and I try and use it to my advantage to spread TRUTH

Arrgh!! WTF is it with the "truth movement" and making films?!!!

[uk_dave]

She also has this to say:



Arrgh!! WTF is it with the "truth movement" and making films?!!!

'Media Studies' courses at University. It's like going to art college but you don't need any artistic talent, just a liking for watching TV.

Every student imagines themselves to be the next Speilberg or direct glossy ads for BMW, but some end up making 'truth' videos.

It's a crowded marketplace.

[Alareth]

'Media Studies' courses at University. It's like going to art college but you don't need any artistic talent, just a liking for watching TV.

Every student imagines themselves to be the next Speilberg or direct glossy ads for BMW, but some end up making 'truth' videos.

It's a crowded marketplace.


I have the equivalent of an Associate of Arts degree. I don't know enough about one thing to get a job, but enough about everything to annoy my friends.

[eromitlab]

My sister got me into Dead Kennedys around '86. I'll still listen to it occasionally. MTV Get Off The Air is far more relevant today as opposed to when it was first released.

Don't really care for O&A... but hey, good on them for meeting the WACs head on.

[B3LYP/CEP-31G(d)]

Note that she also identifies herself as NY9-11 Truth, not We Are Change.


Someone should put together a NY9-11 Truth Chicks calendar.

[Drudgewire]

My sister got me into Dead Kennedys around '86. I'll still listen to it occasionally. MTV Get Off The Air is far more relevant today as opposed to when it was first released.
DK's have some really good songs, but I prefer post-Kennedy Jello when he did "Shut Up, Be Happy" for Ice-T and played Skulhedface in the Gwar movie. :)

[BenBurch]

Wow, I suddenly developed some respect for two idiots I had previously dissed.

Live and learn. (Or you won't live long!)

[Drudgewire]

Wow, I suddenly developed some respect for two idiots I had previously dissed.

Live and learn. (Or you won't live long!)
I'm telling you, I HATED them for many, many years. Then I got XM for Ron and Fez and listened one day because I was too lazy to change the channel.

It's INCREDIBLE how much they've evolved from their "infamous" period. Not to say they don't still do the gross-out stuff, but now they mix it up with some really good radio (especially interviews, which is amazing considering for years everyone was afraid to go on their show... and usually with good reason).

[BenBurch]

The bit with the couple doing it in the Cathedral was a bit much. (That was them, wasn't it?)

[Drudgewire]

The bit with the couple doing it in the Cathedral was a bit much. (That was them, wasn't it?)
It was, and it sickened me.

But they learned from it.

[A W Smith]

It was, and it sickened me.

But they learned from it.

and the guy died (http://www.majickq.com/sex-in-church.htm)not a year later

[Drudgewire]

and the guy died a few years later
So it all worked out in the end. :)