[Split]NWO - split from Fireproofing, Steel and NIST

[Malmoesoldier]

1) Please direct me to where the "New World Order" writes openly about these plans.

2) Please explain who will be killed, and why.

3) Stundied!

NSSM 200 is a 1974 secret report prepared for the outgoing U.S. President Richard Nixon which discussing ways to drastically reduce world’s population base. The underlying premise of the report is that Planet Earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people. The report was signed by Henry Kissinger.

Point 29 of the report speaks volumes about the oligarchy’s true intentions. The plan was to reduce the world’s population by 500 million towards the year 2000 (from 1974) and by 3 billion by the year 2050.

http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12347769&dopt=Citation


"In the 1950s, the Rockefellers reorganized the U.S. eugenics movement in their own family offices, with spinoff world population control and abortion groups. The Eugenics Society changed its name to the Society for the Study of Social Biology, its current name.

"The Rockefeller Foundation had long financed the eugenics movement in England, apparently repaying Britain for the fact that British capital and an Englishman-partner had started old John D. Rockefeller out in his Oil Trust.

"In the 1960s, the Eugenics Society of England adopted what they called Crypto-eugenics, stating in their official reports that they would do eugenics through means and instruments not labeled as eugenics.

"With support from the Rockefellers, the Eugenics Society (England) set up a sub-committee called the International Planned Parenthood Federation, which for 12 years had no other address than the Eugenics Society. This, then, is the private, international apparatus which has set the world up for a global holocaust, under the UN flag."

"In Planned Parenthood's 1985 ‘Annual Report’ leaders of that organization proclaimed that they were, ‘Proud of our past, and planning for our future.’ How could anyone possibly claim to be proud of the organization founded by Margaret Sanger when history records that she wrote of the necessity of: "the extermination of 'human weeds' ...the 'cessation of charity,' ... the segregation of 'morons, misfits, and the maladjusted,' and ... the sterilization of 'genetically inferior races.'"

"… in 1939, Margaret Sanger organized her ‘Negro project,’ a program designed to eliminate members of what she believed to be an ‘inferior race.’ Margaret Sanger justified her proposal because she believed that: ‘The masses of Negroes ...particularly in the South, still breed carelessly and disastrously, with the result that the increase among Negroes, even more than among whites, is from that portion of the population least intelligent and fit...’

"Margaret Sanger then went on to reveal that she intended to hire three or four Colored Ministers ‘to travel to various black enclaves to propagandize for birth control’. She wrote: ‘The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the Minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members’."


“The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.” Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

“…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ’spawning… human beings who never should have been born.” Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, (referring to immigrants and the poor)

“More children from the fit, less from the unfit — that is the chief aim of birth control.” (Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12)

Birth control aims: “to create a race of thoroughbreds,” Margaret Sanger, Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)

“The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” -Margaret Sanger, letter to Clarence Gamble, Dec. 10,1939. - Sanger manuscripts, Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College.

“Before eugenists and others who are laboring for racial betterment can succeed,they must first clear the way for Birth Control. Like the advocates of Birth Control,the eugenists, for instance, are seeking to assist the race toward the elimination of the unfit. Both are seeking a single end but they lay emphasis upon different methods. …” -Margaret Sanger, “Birth Control and Racial Betterment.” Birth Control Review,February 1919, (vol. III, no. 2); p. 11.

"Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries." - Henry Kissinger

"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history." -David Rockefeller 1973 (NY Times 8-10-73)

In 1998, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, announced "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation"

"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." -Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund - quoted in "Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?," Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December '95

Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon Magazine said, "A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal," and is using his purported $1Billion "gift" to the UN to further global depopulation programs.

UNESCO Courier, Jacques-Yves Cousteau, the famous Emmy award winning film producer and ambassador for the environmental movement, said in 1991,

"It’s terrible to have to say this. World population must be stabilized and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day."

Professor's "Kill 90% of Population" Comments Echo UN, Elite NGO policies: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406_b_depopulation.htm

There is just to much information about this subject to cover it here. Why would they kill so many people?. its very simple, it is to hard to control nearly 7 billion people in a police state, they want power and control. They even write openly how they are fooling us into their one world government that only will benift themselves.

[chillzero]

Please do not ignore mod warnings to stay on topic.

[Gravy]

Malmoe, you said, "You do realise that killing 80% of the population of the earth and tagging every human being with an RFID chipp is in the plan of the new world order?"

The study you cited recommends promoting contraception and smaller family sizes in third-world countries.

Do you really not understand the difference between reducing population growth, and murdering 80% of the earth's population?

Are you really that thick? Or were you just not expecting to be caught lying?

:hb:

[funk de fino]

Malmoe, you said, "You do realise that killing 80% of the population of the earth and tagging every human being with an RFID chipp is in the plan of the new world order?"

The study you cited recommends promoting contraception and smaller family sizes in third-world countries.

Do you really not understand the difference between reducing population growth, and murdering 80% of the earth's population?

Are you really that thick? Or were you just not expecting to be caught lying?

:hb:

No he thinks we are that thick even though we have caught him lying and making false claims previous

Its like a child who picks up something hot, burns itself and learns never to do it again except malmoe is too stupid and would continue to scald himself day after day

He has no source from the govt that they will kill 80% of the worlds population yet he still claims he does. Into the liars corner he goes.

[Malmoesoldier]

Malmoe, you said, "You do realise that killing 80% of the population of the earth and tagging every human being with an RFID chipp is in the plan of the new world order?"

The study you cited recommends promoting contraception and smaller family sizes in third-world countries.

Do you really not understand the difference between reducing population growth, and murdering 80% of the earth's population?

Are you really that thick? Or were you just not expecting to be caught lying?

:hb:

Well gravy you dont seem to be a very bright guy. Professor's that work for the government openly talk about reducing the population, it is a different % depending on who you talk to but mostly 80%. Maybe you to think that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people?. will you and your family go first?. They have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations (that has killed many people) without their knowledge in order to advance the progress of eugenics.

Endgame covers this subject very good. http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=1070329053600562261&autoplay=1

Grow up and stop your disinformation campaign.

[chillzero]

Keep it civil, folks.

[twinstead]

Google video propaganda "documentaries" ROCK!

Can I watch In Plane Site or Loose Change again too! I miss them.

[funk de fino]

Well gravy you dont seem to be a very bright guy. Professor's that work for the government openly talk about reducing the population, it is a different % depending on who you talk to but mostly 80%. Maybe you to think that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people?. will you and your family go first?. They have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations (that has killed many people) without their knowledge in order to advance the progress of eugenics.

Endgame covers this subject very good. http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=1070329053600562261&autoplay=1

Grow up and stop your disinformation campaign.

That is not killing 80% of the world population and it is no the govt, you have changed it to professors who work for the govt. Show us the proof of your claim or retract. You are just parroting stupid films on the net and moving goalposts and dreailing your own threads time after time.

Yet again, you fail.

How many people are on planet earth now?

[Malmoesoldier]

That is not killing 80% of the world population and it is no the govt, you have changed it to professors who work for the govt. Show us the proof of your claim or retract. You are just parroting stupid films on the net and moving goalposts and dreailing your own threads time after time.

Yet again, you fail.

How many people are on planet earth now?

I guess you didnt read my post at all. what is it you dont understand?. do you stand for what the people i quoted stand for?, they talk about killing people openly DONT THEY?. you seem to have a hard time reading and understanding texts. do you agree with that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people?. We soon have nearly 7 billion people on earth. as i wrote above, you clearly dont read the texts i write. what motivates you to respond to something you havent read?.

[Gravy]

I guess you didnt read my post at all. what is it you dont understand?. do you stand for what the people i quoted stand for?, they talk about killing people openly DONT THEY?. you seem to have a hard time reading and understanding texts. do you agree with that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people?. We soon have nearly 7 billion people on earth. as i wrote above, you clearly dont read the texts i write. what motivates you to respond to something you havent read?.

Explain how this 1974 recommendation equates to killing 80% of the Earth's population:
While specific goals in this area are difficult to state, our aim should be for the world to achieve a replacement level of fertility, (a two-child family on the average), by about the year 2000 [emphasis added]. This will require the present 2 percent growth rate to decline to 1.7 percent within a decade and to 1.1 percent by 2000. Compared to the U.N medium projection, this goal would result in 500 million fewer people in 2000 and about 3 billion fewer in 2050. Further, the policies were not implemented, because other political considerations took precedence. That's the whole point of the Stephen Mumford article you cited.

Time to man up and retract your absurd statements, Malmoe. Are you mature enough to do so?

[funk de fino]

I guess you didnt read my post at all. what is it you dont understand?. do you stand for what the people i quoted stand for?, they talk about killing people openly DONT THEY?.

Show me this claim. You said the govt would kill 80% of the worlds population. Just show me that claim. You said it was proven?

Professors talking about reducing the population is different than govts going to kill 80% of the population.

you seem to have a hard time reading and understanding texts. do you agree with that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people?. We soon have nearly 7 billion people on earth. as i wrote above, you clearly dont read the texts i write. what motivates you to respond to something you havent read?

No, I do not agree with that assessment

I do read what you post because I see your false claims and very poor arguments and very poor english

[Malmoesoldier]

Show me this claim. You said the govt would kill 80% of the worlds population. Just show me that claim. You said it was proven?

Professors talking about reducing the population is different than govts going to kill 80% of the population.



No, I do not agree with that assessment

I do read what you post because I see your false claims and very poor arguments and very poor english

If they work for the government and are funded by theme offcourse it is the government that says it then, why do they keep funding people like that if they dont stand for it? :confused: and please read the quotes in my first post. Glad to hear you dont agree with that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people. Dr. Eric R. Pianka talks about killing 90% of the population, there are very much information on this subject, educate yourself on it and how they have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations (that has killed many people) without their knowledge in order to advance the progress of eugenics.

[Gravy]

If they work for the government and are funded by theme offcourse it is the government that says it then, why do they keep funding people like that if they dont stand for it? :confused: and please read the quotes in my first post. Glad to hear you dont agree with that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people. Dr. Eric R. Pianka talks about killing 90% of the population, there are very much information on this subject, educate yourself on it and how they have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations (that has killed many people) without their knowledge in order to advance the progress of eugenics.Are you lying, or just horribly mistaken? Eric Planka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Pianka) is a herpetologist – he studies reptiles – who does not work for the government. He does not advocate killing anyone. His words were taken out of context by "Intelligent Design" morons.

Pianka's March, 2006 acceptance speech for the 2006 Distinguished Texas Scientist award by the The Texas Academy of Science resulted in controversy in the popular press when Forrest Mims (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_Mims) claimed that Pianka had advocated genocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide).[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Pianka#_note-10) Mims' affiliate at the Discovery Institute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_Institute), William Dembski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_A._Dembski), then informed the Department of Homeland Security (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Homeland_Security) because he and Mims felt that Pianka's speech fomented bioterrorism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioterrorism).[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Pianka#_note-11) This resulted in the Federal Bureau of Investigation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation) interviewing Pianka in Austin.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Pianka#_note-12)

Pianka has stated that Mims (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_Mims) took his statements out of context and that Pianka was stating what would happen from biological principles alone if present human population trends continue, and that he was not in any way advocating for it to happen. The host of the speech, the Texas Academy of Sciences (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Texas_Academy_of_Sciences&action=edit), has released a statement stating that "many of Dr. Pianka's statements have been severely misconstrued and sensationalized."[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Pianka#_note-13)
From the Texas Academy of Science statement (http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/04/texas_academy_o.html) on Dr. Planka:
We would like to state, however, that many of Dr. Pianka’s statements have been severely misconstrued and sensationalized. The purpose of his presentation was to dramatize the precarious plight of the human population. He did nothing more than apply commonly accepted principles of animal population dynamics to humans; an application not unique to this presentation and one that can be surmised by any student of ecology.Malmoe, do you now agree that the 1974 study you cited recommended ways to reduce population growth, and did not call for the murder of anyone?

[funk de fino]

If they work for the government and are funded by theme offcourse it is the government that says it then, why do they keep funding people like that if they dont stand for it? :confused: and please read the quotes in my first post. Glad to hear you dont agree with that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people. Dr. Eric R. Pianka talks about killing 90% of the population, there are very much information on this subject, educate yourself on it and how they have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations (that has killed many people) without their knowledge in order to advance the progress of eugenics.

Show me where the govt say they will KILL 80% of the population. I will keep asking until you show me this claim or proof.

Not much to ask is it?

[Malmoesoldier]

Are you lying, or just badly mistaken? Eric Planka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Pianka) is a herpetologist – he studies reptiles – who does not work for the government. He does not advocate killing anyone. His words were taken out of context by young earth creationists.

Malmoe, do you now agree that the 1974 study you cited recommended ways to reduce population growth, and did not call for the murder of anyone?

The underlying premise of the report is that Planet Earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people. that is SICK. and many people that works for the governemnt talks about reducing the population. And they still HAVE tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations (that has killed many people) without their knowledge in order to advance the progress of eugenics...

"The AP suggests that Pianka has back-peddled and said that he was only trying to warn against epidemic occurring due to overpopulation completely. This contradicts his clear statement that airborne ebola should be used to eliminate 90% of the human population. He is not warning against a disease epidemic, he is advocating one and the Associated Press has displayed yellow journalism in not pointing out this disconnect.

Show me where the govt say they will KILL 80% of the population. I will keep asking until you show me this claim or proof.

Not much to ask is it?

I have already showed you. you dont need to respond to my posts anymore because you wont get an awsner, stop your lieing and cherry picking and watch endgame.

[DGM]

Malmoe:
To see the real story watch "Soylent green"
I'll try to find out were you can view it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1296155071179146825

[Malmoesoldier]

Malmoe:
To see the real story watch "Soylent green"
I'll try to find out were you can view it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1296155071179146825

Learn how they want to kill us with the help of food: http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-5266884912495233634&hl=en

Haven't watched the full video yet, but there are alot of this information on the internet just research it. and you cant debunk endgame so watch it and learn something.

“Mandatory programs may be needed and we should be considering these possibilities now,” the document continued, adding, “Would food be considered an instrument of national power? ... Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?”

Henry Kissinger's 1974 Plan for
Food Control Genocide: http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_peace/kiss_nssm_jb_1995.html

[Gravy]

Malmoe: you said, "You do realise that killing 80% of the population of the earth and tagging every human being with an RFID chipp is in the plan of the new world order?"

We have demonstrated that you have no idea what you're talking about. Your posts are becoming increasingly irrational.

Please stop this behavior. This forum is populated by critical thinkers, not by people who swallow the outrageously wrongheaded nonsense you spew.

Just stop, Malmoe. With every post you further humiliate yourself.

[DGM]

Learn how they want to kill us with the help of food: http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-5266884912495233634&hl=en

Haven't watched the full video yet, but there are alot of this information on the internet just research it. and you cant debunk endgame so watch it and learn something.
Sorry Alex Jones hurts my head. Debunking "endgame" is easy. Just wait a few years.

[Malmoesoldier]

Malmoe: you said, "You do realise that killing 80% of the population of the earth and tagging every human being with an RFID chipp is in the plan of the new world order?"

We have demonstrated that you have no idea what you're talking about. Your posts are becoming increasingly irrational.

Please stop this behavior. This forum is populated by critical thinkers, not by people who swallow the outrageously wrongheaded nonsense you spew.

Just stop, Malmoe. With every post you further humiliate yourself.

yep, killing 80-90% of the population is what people like Pianka talks about and get prices for. And NSSM 200 is about using food as a weapon, and that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people and much more sick stuff. My quotes prove quite alot to. lets drop the % stuff and look at the facts, you cant deny theme. they really want to reduce the population. you haft to agree on that, what the facts show.

[stateofgrace]

So how come people are living longer?
Why so much medical reseach?
Why have vaccines?
Why have any form of medical aid?
Why have charities?


Why such a dim view of humanity?

[bynmdsue]

If the earth can only support 3 billion people,why are we at twice that now?

[FactCheck]

He thinks Clinton killed Children in Waco. This is straight out of Alex Jones' con-game. It's obvious he doesn't know Alex is using quotes out of context. Time and time again we point out Alex's Jones deceptions and time and time again he ignores it. He is EXACTLY Alex's target audience. People who "believe" rather than conclude from evidence. He isn't seeing anything that doesn't support his beliefs. He sees what Alex tells him to see. If Alex says the quote is about murdering adults and not planned parenting then it's about murder. It doesn't matter that no where in the quote does it call for murdering anyone. You have to "Read between the lines". As long as Alex is doing the writing. If some dots in the sky can be connected to create a dipper then there is a real dipper in the sky. Alex points to the sky and says it's a real dipper - "I'm just connecting the dots" - then it's a real dipper.

Alex Jones and his prisonplanet/infowars has everything to do with this whehter he knows it/admits it or not. Hes Alex's unwitting marketing tool.

[Gravy]

yep, killing 80-90% of the population is what people like Pianka talks about and get prices for. Now you're just ignoring the information you've been given, and you have chosen to lie. That is not mature or rational behavior.

Please stop, Malmoe. Ignoring facts and lying wastes everyone's time.

[Malmoesoldier]

He thinks Clinton killed Children in Waco. This is straight out of Alex Jones' con-game. It's obvious he doesn't know Alex is using quotes out of context. Time and time again we point out Alex's Jones deceptions and time and time again he ignores it. He is EXACTLY Alex's target audience. People who "believe" rather than conclude from evidence. He isn't seeing anything that doesn't support his beliefs. He sees what Alex tells him to see. If Alex says the quote is about murdering adults and not planned parenting then it's about murder. It doesn't matter that no where in the quote does it call for murdering anyone. You have to "Read between the lines". As long as Alex is doing the writing. If some dots in the sky can be connected to create a dipper then there is a real dipper in the sky. Alex points to the sky and says it's a real dipper - "I'm just connecting the dots" - then it's a real dipper.

Alex Jones and his prisonplanet/infowars has everything to do with this whehter he knows it/admits it or not. Hes Alex's unwitting marketing tool.

I said FBI killed kids at waco, witch they did. who put fire on the house? FBI did i have it on TAPE. And the "bunker" witch the government said collapsed and killed some of the children inside of it didnt collapse it was a lie

people standing on the roof of the bunker: public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/fig/d_fig11.jpg

I can go on and on with evidence that FBI killed kids at waco but this thread isnt abot waco. everybody knows what happend at waco, if you deny this you are as ignorant as you can be.

Did you see any alex jones sources in this thread besides his movie endgame witch is full of facts?.

So how come people are living longer?
Why so much medical reseach?
Why have vaccines?
Why have any form of medical aid?
Why have charities?


Why such a dim view of humanity?

they have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations (that has killed many people) without their knowledge in order to advance the progress of eugenics. the documentary "Endgame" covers this very well. you can see it for free at google video.

If the earth can only support 3 billion people,why are we at twice that now?

Are you asking me that?. Ask henry kissinger.

Now you're just ignoring the information you've been given, and you have chosen to lie. That is not mature or rational behavior.

Please stop, Malmoe. Ignoring facts and lying wastes everyone's time.

I know you dont like the facts i have showed you in this thread. It is easier to accept it.

You can lisen to an interview with Forrest M. Mims who heard the pianka speech here: http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/030406mims.htm

[Ratatoskr]

Malmoesoldier: You wouldn't happen to be Swedish btw?

And I would recommend you to stop reading Alex Jones' prisonplanet and infowars sites. They are full of junk and have been proved to be lying. I'd strongly recommend you to read the articles / rapports that he claims he's quoting, so you can see for yourself. And then I mean read, not watch movies people have made on youtube and google video.

[tomwaits]

I said FBI killed kids at waco, witch they did.

so the witches did it?


(woo wooooo, here come the...
http://morningglory2.files.wordpress.com/2006/04/grammarpolice.jpg)

[uk_dave]

yep, killing 80-90% of the population is what people like Pianka talks about and get prices for. And NSSM 200 is about using food as a weapon, and that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people and much more sick stuff. My quotes prove quite alot to. lets drop the % stuff and look at the facts, you cant deny theme. they really want to reduce the population. you haft to agree on that, what the facts show.


Your posts have an air of hysteria about them. Perhaps you should take a deep breath and re-approach this subject with an open mind, because the one you're using at the moment is clouded by the crap you've been fed by people who are taking advantage of you to further their own agendas.

[funk de fino]

I have already showed you. you dont need to respond to my posts anymore because you wont get an awsner, stop your lieing and cherry picking and watch endgame.

You have not showed me. You have made a claim and you cannot back it up. When you try you post stuff that does not support you then you move away when it becomes clear you have made a mistake while continuing to lie about it.

You are the worst kind of truther who lies.

I hope you are proud of your actions.

[funk de fino]

yep, killing 80-90% of the population is what people like Pianka talks about and get prices for.

Pianka is not the govt nor does he work for them

And NSSM 200 is about using food as a weapon, and that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people and much more sick stuff.

yet we are more than double that many years later


My quotes prove quite alot to. lets drop the % stuff and look at the facts, you cant deny theme. they really want to reduce the population. you haft to agree on that, what the facts show.

You mean lets drop your claim that the govt want to kill 80% because you cannot prove it so you need to run away.

Brave Sir Robin indeed

[timhau]

You've got to wonder how many of us there would be if the NWO hadn't taken up the task of killing off 80%.

[funk de fino]

In 1998, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, announced "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation"

If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." -Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund - quoted in "Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?," Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December '95

As usual on closer inspection his quotes are nonsense and contradictory and shows he is not even reading them but copying them from sites without checking. Looking online the dates and hwere he said it are all over the place and on truther sites and the like.

Fail again

[Tolls]

As usual on closer inspection his quotes are nonsense and contradictory and shows he is not even reading them but copying them from sites without checking. Looking online the dates and hwere he said it are all over the place and on truther sites and the like.

Fail again

Beat me to it...that stood out like a sore thumb to me!
:)

Quoting stuff from the 1920s really doesn't help his case either (I could quote George Bernard Shaw on it, or Bertrand Russell...doesn't make it right). The whole eugenics/pseudo-darwinist stuff went out of fashion 20 years later...can't think why, though.

[Malmoesoldier]

Beat me to it...that stood out like a sore thumb to me!
:)

Quoting stuff from the 1920s really doesn't help his case either (I could quote George Bernard Shaw on it, or Bertrand Russell...doesn't make it right). The whole eugenics/pseudo-darwinist stuff went out of fashion 20 years later...can't think why, though.

funk de fino has a hard time understanding texts. Prince Philip has said those two quotes. Fail again? to funny. The other quotes says quite a lot if you actually read theme. It doesnt matter how many people we are today what matters is that there are sick people in politics that write things like NSSM 200. And again they have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations (that has killed many people) without their knowledge in order to advance the progress of eugenics. So they HAVE put in work and done alot of sick stuff.

so the witches did it?


(woo wooooo, here come the...
http://morningglory2.files.wordpress.com/2006/04/grammarpolice.jpg)

What is funny about waco?. FBI killed kids and you joke about it. Grow up

Malmoesoldier: You wouldn't happen to be Swedish btw?

And I would recommend you to stop reading Alex Jones' prisonplanet and infowars sites. They are full of junk and have been proved to be lying. I'd strongly recommend you to read the articles / rapports that he claims he's quoting, so you can see for yourself. And then I mean read, not watch movies people have made on youtube and google video.

yes im swedish. why do you bring up alex jones?, read my first post please. and i look up about 90% of everything i hear alex say, so far he hasnt been wrong one time, he talks about things he can prove. I dont understand people like you, if he lies that much then prove him wrong, you never do. It is just name calling all the time.

[Ratatoskr]

yes im swedish. why do you bring up alex jones?, read my first post please. and i look up about 90% of everything i hear alex say, so far he hasnt been wrong one time, he talks about things he can prove. I dont understand people like you, if he lies that much then prove him wrong, you never do. It is just name calling all the time.

I bring up Alex Jones because you link to his sites. And if you read the responses in this thread alone (never mind what you can find by looking at other threads), I'd say that Mr Jones has once again been caught lying to further his own agenda.

Please, read what people are telling you, but not take anything for granted, be aware that many people are "quote mining" to make it seem that leading scientists and politicians are trying to murder everybody.

[Malmoesoldier]

I bring up Alex Jones because you link to his sites. And if you read the responses in this thread alone (never mind what you can find by looking at other threads), I'd say that Mr Jones has once again been caught lying to further his own agenda.

Please, read what people are telling you, but not take anything for granted, be aware that many people are "quote mining" to make it seem that leading scientists and politicians are trying to murder everybody.

they called the police on pianka, do you really think he will admit what he said to the police?. And yes they are trying to murder everybody. did you read my first post?. And watch Endgame you cant debunk that documentary. They have been caught 1000 of times testing things on the population without their knowledge... and like i say people like you always fail to prove him wrong. you dont even know 1% of the stuff he talks about. People that criticism him is uneducated people, there is history and information to learn outside schools.

[funk de fino]

funk de fino has a hard time understanding texts. Prince Philip has said those two quotes. Fail again? to funny

I have a had time understanding why you lie so much and post stuff that is false and contradictory without checking first.

Lets look at your claim. Are you saying Prince Phillip said this quote twice? Your post says 1995 and 1998? Do you think this is correct? Do you think he said it twice, three years apart?

When you google that quote what sites do you find that source it? Show me the original source of that quote please.

Lets see what some of the other sites say about this quote (funnily enough nearly everyone you find is a truther one and it looks like wiki may be wrong as well).

In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation" HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh at a lecture in 1986


Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988

In 1987, he wrote in his book If I Were an Animal

Prince Philip, who in the foreword to his 1986 book If I Were an Animal

In August 1988, in an interview with Deutsche Presse-Agentur, Prince Phi lip stated:

``In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.''

Earlier, in the foreword to his 1986 book If I Were an Animal, Prince Philip wrote:

``I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated as an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers that it was in danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus.''



Looks to me like he may have made a statement like this in an interview with a german mag in 1988

It also looks like he wrote in a book released in 1986/7 something that was similar in nature but not the one you have quoted.

The proper thing for you to do is admit your dates were wrong and he never made two statements when you claimed he did. He may once have said one of them but the one from the book is different to either of your quotes. Find the original sources and the post them here and let us see. Do not post junk from truther sites again.

If you go these sources from Alex Jones then I have just proved him wrong.

[Tolls]

funk de fino has a hard time understanding texts. Prince Philip has said those two quotes. Fail again? to funny. The other quotes says quite a lot if you actually read theme. It doesnt matter how many people we are today what matters is that there are sick people in politics that write things like NSSM 200. And again they have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations (that has killed many people) without their knowledge in order to advance the progress of eugenics. So they HAVE put in work and done alot of sick stuff.


OK, on the Prince Phillip quote, on which of the two dates you give for it (and, yes, they do look like the same quote) did he actually say this? 1998 or 1995. And where did he say this?

Also, even if he did say this (bearing in mind he's said rather a lot of entertaining things in his time) why, exactly, should that be a concern? His son talks to trees for crying out loud, and Phillip has no power whatsoever. None. He does have an interesting sense of humour, though.

As for the other quotes, as I said, finding quotes from the 1920s on eugenics isn't difficult, finding them after the 1930s is harder. So, to me, it looks like your simply padding out your rather thin material.

ETA: Thanks to funk for the extra bits for the Philip quote. Not quite so damning now, in context.

[funk de fino]

they called the police on pianka, do you really think he will admit what he said to the police?. And yes they are trying to murder everybody. did you read my first post?. And watch Endgame you cant debunk that documentary. They have been caught 1000 of times testing things on the population without their knowledge... and like i say people like you always fail to prove him wrong. you dont even know 1% of the stuff he talks about. People that criticism him is uneducated people, there is history and information to learn outside schools.

That is too ironic to let go. The fact you can post that in that manner is hilarious.

Pianka was recorded was he not? The police (FBI actually IIRC) can just look at this or the transcript that is available to see what he said.

Still no source for your claim that the GOVT want to kill 80% of the world population?

Come on you said it was proved. Let me see the source of your claim?

[bynmdsue]

Are you asking me that?. Ask henry kissinger.

Dr.Kissinger and I are not speaking at present,so I'm asking YOU.
There are more than 6 billion people on the planet right now.If the natural resources of the earth can only support half that,how did the population grow to double?

[funk de fino]

In case malmoe tries to use Pianka for back up about the govt again.

And convincing ‘em when the government’s telling ‘em to keep their head buried in the sand and pretend everything’s OK isn’t going to be easy. The government’s just lying to ‘em, and they’re accepting it.


Said during the same speech and shows how much he likes the govt.

[The_Fire]

so the witches did it?


OI!
We don't do that anymore, not after the entire Hansel and Gretel affair.



At least not without a hunting permit........


Edit, after reading the thread one more time: As for the op:

There is a significant difference between limiting population growth and killing off 80% of the human race. And if you don't know the difference, MS, then the swedish schooling system is worse than the american.

[Malmoesoldier]

"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."
Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988.

"I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus."
Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.

"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." -Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund - quoted in "Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?," Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December '95

[Malmoesoldier]

Dr.Kissinger and I are not speaking at present,so I'm asking YOU.
There are more than 6 billion people on the planet right now.If the natural resources of the earth can only support half that,how did the population grow to double?

I dont understand your question... where did i say that the natural resources of the earth only can support 3 billion :confused: please read abit more careful next time....

[chillzero]

Is a silly quote from Prince Philip about his preferred reincarnation actually supposed to prove something about the NWO wanting to cull the earth anyway?

[Tolls]

Is a silly quote from Prince Philip about his preferred reincarnation actually supposed to prove something about the NWO wanting to cull the earth anyway?

I was wondering the self same thing. Quoting it three times in a single post doesn't add anything either.

[Malmoesoldier]

Is a silly quote from Prince Philip about his preferred reincarnation actually supposed to prove something about the NWO wanting to cull the earth anyway?

It just shows that wanting to reduce the population is a common thing amongst politicians and wealthy people.

I was wondering the self same thing. Quoting it three times in a single post doesn't add anything either.

My first post shows alot. its a big subject cant cover it all here, do some research. now watch

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-5266884912495233634&hl=en

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=1070329053600562261&autoplay=1

[funk de fino]

"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."
Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988.

In 1998, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, announced "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation"

So in this one you had the date wrong and did not say where it came from and have no context to why he said it. Another cherrypick.

"I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus."
Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.

This one I found is in context and says what exactly? Why is he saying this? From what point of view?

"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." -Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund - quoted in "Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?," Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December '95

You posted an incorrect quote from a paper which was the same quote you had posted above it and did not even check or confirm this?

He has written one of the above in 1986 and said one of the above to a magazine in 1988. You were wrong.

In any case PP is not anything to do with the govt of the UK.

Still no proof the GOVT want to kill 80% of the poulation?

[funk de fino]

It just shows that wanting to reduce the population is a common thing amongst politicians and wealthy people.

Thats not what anyone was posting about, you posted it when asked for proof of the GOVT want to kill 80% of the world population claim. Reducing the population is different than killing most of the population and wealthy men are not necessarily in the GOVT.

It does not back you up at all.

ETA - Intelligent people do not look at youtube and google video for an education. Brainwashed people do though it seems.

[Malmoesoldier]

i thought documentaries was made in a studio not on the internet. and personly i only read information on internet that is from libraries and documents from the government.

Well you can choose to deny all this stuff although the evidence is there.

They will have a hard time setting up their police state against the militia. we WILL destroy the cops in war. The elite knows that and dont give a damn about the cops. illuminati are training foreign troops to come in after the cops have all been destroyed by the people.

[Malmoesoldier]

Patrick Moore, one of the founders of Greenpeace, left the organization because deep ecologists came to dominate it. He writes that,

"In the name of 'deep ecology' many environmentalists have taken a sharp turn to the ultra-left … the human species is characterized as a 'cancer' on the face of the earth. The extremists perpetuate the belief that all human activity is negative whereas the rest of nature is good … This aspect of environmental extremism leads to disdain and disrespect for fellow humans and the belief that it would be 'good' if a disease such as AIDS were to wipe out most of the population."

Patrick Moore created Greenpeace from the ground up. He understands what it stands for today, which is why left the organization he founded.


"Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs." -John Davis, editor of Earth First Journal

"I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds." -Paul Watson (founder of Greenpeace).

The world has cancer, and that cancer is man." -Merton Lambert, (former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation).

"We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels. " -Carl Amery (German Greens).

"The human race could go extinct, and I for one, would not shed any tears." -Dave Foreman (founder of Earth First!).

The first task is population control at home. How do we go about it? ...some sort of compulsory birth regulation would be necessary to achieve such control. One plan - the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired population size." -Paul Ehrlich (population control advocate, author of The Population Bomb).

"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. ...All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing." -David Brower (first executive director of the Sierra Club; founder of Friends of the Earth; and founder of the Earth Island Institute).

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" -Maurice Strong (U.N. environmental leader).

[funk de fino]

The links you had are to internet videos. Intelligent people do not generally use them for educational purposes in lieu of real material. Only gullible people watch these and believe them as they have never looked elsewhere and are fooled by the stupid crazies who make the videos. Alex Jones is a crazy liar who is making money off stupid people.

You have posted links here from truther sites not from original documents so you are lying again. You have posted from Prisonplanet.

Forget about killing all the cops tough guy. All I want is the proof you said you had that the GOVT wants to kill 80% of the world population.

The war? Are you talking about Sweden here?

[funk de fino]

Patrick Moore, one of the founders of Greenpeace, left the organization because deep ecologists came to dominate it. He writes that,

"In the name of 'deep ecology' many environmentalists have taken a sharp turn to the ultra-left … the human species is characterized as a 'cancer' on the face of the earth. The extremists perpetuate the belief that all human activity is negative whereas the rest of nature is good … This aspect of environmental extremism leads to disdain and disrespect for fellow humans and the belief that it would be 'good' if a disease such as AIDS were to wipe out most of the population."

Patrick Moore created Greenpeace from the ground up. He understands what it stands for today, which is why left the organization he founded.


"Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs." -John Davis, editor of Earth First Journal

"I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds." -Paul Watson (founder of Greenpeace).

The world has cancer, and that cancer is man." -Merton Lambert, (former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation).

"We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels. " -Carl Amery (German Greens).

"The human race could go extinct, and I for one, would not shed any tears." -Dave Foreman (founder of Earth First!).

The first task is population control at home. How do we go about it? ...some sort of compulsory birth regulation would be necessary to achieve such control. One plan - the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired population size." -Paul Ehrlich (population control advocate, author of The Population Bomb).

"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. ...All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing." -David Brower (first executive director of the Sierra Club; founder of Friends of the Earth; and founder of the Earth Island Institute).

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" -Maurice Strong (U.N. environmental leader).

How many of those are in the GOVT? How many are saying we have to kill 80% of the population of the world?

Stop running away you coward, just post your proof or admit you have none.

as for this quote - The world has cancer, and that cancer is man." -Merton Lambert

I am full agreement with it but it does not mean I want to kill anyone.

[timhau]

Is a silly quote from Prince Philip about his preferred reincarnation actually supposed to prove something about the NWO wanting to cull the earth anyway?

Of course, because he would be the Lizard King if we called the Queen's husband a King instead of a Prince is famous.

[Tolls]

Patrick Moore, one of the founders of Greenpeace, left the organization because deep ecologists came to dominate it. He writes that,

"In the name of 'deep ecology' many environmentalists have taken a sharp turn to the ultra-left … the human species is characterized as a 'cancer' on the face of the earth. The extremists perpetuate the belief that all human activity is negative whereas the rest of nature is good … This aspect of environmental extremism leads to disdain and disrespect for fellow humans and the belief that it would be 'good' if a disease such as AIDS were to wipe out most of the population."

Patrick Moore created Greenpeace from the ground up. He understands what it stands for today, which is why left the organization he founded.


"Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs." -John Davis, editor of Earth First Journal

"I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds." -Paul Watson (founder of Greenpeace).

The world has cancer, and that cancer is man." -Merton Lambert, (former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation).

"We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels. " -Carl Amery (German Greens).

"The human race could go extinct, and I for one, would not shed any tears." -Dave Foreman (founder of Earth First!).

The first task is population control at home. How do we go about it? ...some sort of compulsory birth regulation would be necessary to achieve such control. One plan - the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired population size." -Paul Ehrlich (population control advocate, author of The Population Bomb).

"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. ...All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing." -David Brower (first executive director of the Sierra Club; founder of Friends of the Earth; and founder of the Earth Island Institute).

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" -Maurice Strong (U.N. environmental leader).

So, let me get this straight, we've moved on from "the elites want to kill us all" to "the environmentalists want to kill us all". Have I got that right?

[Lennart Hyland]

Malmoe can you please admit that Pianka doenst work for the government and that his statements has been severely misconstrued and sensationalized?

[SDC]

i thought documentaries was made in a studio not on the internet. and personly i only read information on internet that is from libraries and documents from the government. [My bold, SDC].

Well you can choose to deny all this stuff although the evidence is there.

They will have a hard time setting up their police state against the militia. we WILL destroy the cops in war. The elite knows that and dont give a damn about the cops. illuminati are training foreign troops to come in after the cops have all been destroyed by the people.

That's right, blame the libraries. Actually, since most libraries have public terminals which reach the entire Web, your statement in the first paragraph is meaningless.

I find it hard to believe Malmoe is from Sweden, rather than the States. He keeps referring to the government, and to us/ we, in ways that suggest he's over here in North Am. Also, are there nutty militias in Sweden? I thought that was an essentially American theme. (Maybe there are Canadian militias, but it just seems unlikely, somehow.)

[Lennart Hyland]

That's right, blame the libraries. Actually, since most libraries have public terminals which reach the entire Web, your statement in the first paragraph is meaningless.

I find it hard to believe Malmoe is from Sweden, rather than the States. He keeps referring to the government, and to us/ we, in ways that suggest he's over here in North Am. Also, are there nutty militias in Sweden? I thought that was an essentially American theme. (Maybe there are Canadian militias, but it just seems unlikely, somehow.)

There is definatly something strange about malmoe. Back on the swedish flashback forum his grammar and spelling skills was just as bad as it is here.

And no there are no nutty militas in Sweden :p And I can also assure you that this guy havent study history or anything else since preschool.

[asmodean]

There is definatly something strange about malmoe. Back on the swedish flashback forum his grammar and spelling skills was just as bad as it is here.

And no there are no nutty militas in Sweden :p And I can also assure you that this guy havent study history or anything else since preschool.

You know if he spews the same stuff on Vaken.se? Read some similar stuff like this, from a Vaken.se user who trolled the VOF-boards. And just as here, and apparently on Flashback, the spelling and grammar was kinda bad as well.

Oh, and on behalf of Sweden, allow me to apologize for Malmoesoldier.

[Trifikas]

"Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs." -John Davis, editor of Earth First Journal

"I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds." -Paul Watson (founder of Greenpeace).

The world has cancer, and that cancer is man." -Merton Lambert, (former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation).


And they all forgot "Virus with Shoes" - Bill Hicks.


The government is not trying to kill off 80% or whatever of the population. It's just dim. that would mean 80% less taxes, and who in the government wants that?

Got other news for ya. The NWO? not an entity. It's a perceived anthropomorphism of the government taken as an whole. A think tank comes up with some idea, and a few parts of the government work on the idea, and wether implemented or not, there's fallout. People who don't like the idea think the Mystical NWO boogie man is behind it, or people who liked an unworkable idea claim the NWO shot it down. But it's all standard operating procedure for any large body. Some ideas make it, some don't. there's no hidden person pulling strings. It's just perception. It looks like the government is alive with ideas of its own, but it's just people doing their jobs.

[afinemadness]

So, let me get this straight, we've moved on from "the elites want to kill us all" to "the environmentalists want to kill us all". Have I got that right?

I think that is funny because if there are two groups that would like to see each other wiped out it is those two. Could you picture a hardcore environmentalist and a member of the Bush administration making a pact?

[Lennart Hyland]

You know if he spews the same stuff on Vaken.se? Read some similar stuff like this, from a Vaken.se user who trolled the VOF-boards. And just as here, and apparently on Flashback, the spelling and grammar was kinda bad as well.

Oh, and on behalf of Sweden, allow me to apologize for Malmoesoldier.

Hmm I have actully no idea. But I have tried to debate with the guys over there....damn talk about paranoia.

[BenBurch]

I think that is funny because if there are two groups that would like to see each other wiped out it is those two. Could you picture a hardcore environmentalist and a member of the Bush administration making a pact?

And as somebody who has always advocated universal birth control and Zero Population Growth, the nutjobs are now even MORE sure I am an NWO shill!

[Dave Rogers]

Oh, and on behalf of Sweden, allow me to apologize for Malmoesoldier.

It's not your fault, mate. Look at what we've got - Icke and Shayler!

Dave

[Malmoesoldier]

The wildland project talks about killing 80%. If someone finds a good pdf with their reports let me know.

The Global Biodiversity Assessment (GBA) suggest an answer: simply cut the world population by about 80%-or return to a feudal lifestyle (no cars, planes, air conditioners ) Meeting the need for "scientific and technical assessments" mandated in the UN Convention on Biological Diversity,16 the GBA estimates that,

an 'agricultural world' in which most human beings are peasants, should be able to support 5 to 7 billion people.... In contrast, a reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society at the present North American material standard of living would be 1 billion [people]

http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/Food-Land96.html
http://www.uhuh.com/1calfraud/stacks/judymusin.htm

That's right, blame the libraries. Actually, since most libraries have public terminals which reach the entire Web, your statement in the first paragraph is meaningless.

I find it hard to believe Malmoe is from Sweden, rather than the States. He keeps referring to the government, and to us/ we, in ways that suggest he's over here in North Am. Also, are there nutty militias in Sweden? I thought that was an essentially American theme. (Maybe there are Canadian militias, but it just seems unlikely, somehow.)

what are you talking about?, blame the libraries? i said i ONLY get my information from libraries and government sources, things that is proven. Funny how nobody has wanted to touche the facts in this thread, deny theme and loose your freedoms and die hard, have a good life. i live in sweden, do you think that america is the only country that has intelligent educated people that understands the NWO agenda?. holland, germany, sweden, every contry as truthers and soldiers.

[Tolls]

I think that is funny because if there are two groups that would like to see each other wiped out it is those two. Could you picture a hardcore environmentalist and a member of the Bush administration making a pact?

It's all a front to lull the sheeples into a false sense of security...um...or something like that.

[bynmdsue]

If Malmoe's method of "arguing" is to cut&paste,shouldn't he at least bother to read what he is cutting & pasting?

[Trifikas]

The wildland project talks about killing 80%. If someone finds a good pdf with their reports let me know.



http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/Food-Land96.html
http://www.uhuh.com/1calfraud/stacks/judymusin.htm



Uh...would that be this "Wildlands Project", from your first link: "...The Wildlands Project conceived by convicted 'eco-warrior' Dave Foreman who co-founded the militant eco-group Earth First and serves as on the board of the Sierra Club"

[Malmoesoldier]

If Malmoe's method of "arguing" is to cut&paste,shouldn't he at least bother to read what he is cutting & pasting?

Do not insult other posters.

Uh...would that be this "Wildlands Project", from your first link: "...The Wildlands Project conceived by convicted 'eco-warrior' Dave Foreman who co-founded the militant eco-group Earth First and serves as on the board of the Sierra Club"

The Wildlands Project has worked with the pedofile ring UN.

THE WORLD IS ROUND. do you at least understand that? nothing in this world is true right? thats a new religion you cant trust anyting, japan dont exist, we cant know if the world is round or not, facts aint facts, the color green maybe is red?.

[afinemadness]

The wildland project talks about killing 80%. If someone finds a good pdf with their reports let me know.



http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/Food-Land96.html
http://www.uhuh.com/1calfraud/stacks/judymusin.htm



what are you talking about?, blame the libraries? i said i ONLY get my information from libraries and government sources, things that is proven. Funny how nobody has wanted to touche the facts in this thread, deny theme and loose your freedoms and die hard, have a good life. i live in sweden, do you think that america is the only country that has intelligent educated people that understands the NWO agenda?. holland, germany, sweden, every contry as truthers and soldiers.

We would love to debate the facts there is just one problem with that. The problem is you have no facts. You have conflicting posts, you have quotes taken out of context and flat out made up quotes what you do not have are facts. But let's try this one idea. Let's say all of these quotes are true my question is How has that worked out? The population grows every moment. I guess they are just not able to wipe us out. I suggest you start a regiment of Cipro and wait it out though just to be safe.

[DGM]

If Malmoe's method of "arguing" is to cut&paste,shouldn't he at least bother to read what he is cutting & pasting?
Alex told him not to.

[Malmoesoldier]

We would love to debate the facts there is just one problem with that. The problem is you have no facts. You have conflicting posts, you have quotes taken out of context and flat out made up quotes what you do not have are facts. But let's try this one idea. Let's say all of these quotes are true my question is How has that worked out? The population grows every moment. I guess they are just not able to wipe us out. I suggest you start a regiment of Cipro and wait it out though just to be safe.

made up quotes?. please leave this thread.

[afinemadness]

made up quotes?. please leave this thread.
Great answer. Maybe you should try answering any question that has been put to you and not just cut and paste. Maybe you should do research that does not just involve what you are given by Alex Jones. Maybe just maybe if you do you will learn something. I am not saying that your view will change just that you need to see multiple sources not just multiple reiterations of the same thing

[afinemadness]

Malmoe I have one point I need to clarify. I was not suggesting that you made them up. I was suggesting that you accepted them as true when they are not.

[Malmoesoldier]

Great answer. Maybe you should try answering any question that has been put to you and not just cut and paste. Maybe you should do research that does not just involve what you are given by Alex Jones. Maybe just maybe if you do you will learn something. I am not saying that your view will change just that you need to see multiple sources not just multiple reiterations of the same thing

Malmoe I have one point I need to clarify. I was not suggesting that you made them up. I was suggesting that you accepted them as true when they are not.

Like i have said before i dont believe what alex or anyone tells me i look things up. the only thing i have said about alex in this thread is that you cant debunk his film endgame. all the quotes are true, so why do you lie?. dont call something a lie when you dont know what you are talking about, that just shows what kind of person you are. and i guess there is nothing wrong with NSSM 200 and the wildlands project?? or the fact that they have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations (that has killed many people) without their knowledge in order to advance the progress of eugenics. So they HAVE put in work and done alot of sick stuff. Endgame covers this very well. You have the right to have an opinon of alex and his films but you have no right to your own facts. people are so brainwashed today so they even believe that global warming is caused by man.

[uk_dave]

Like i have said before i dont believe what alex or anyone tells me i look things up.

Then there's no hope for you. Sane, rational people do not see what you see in the quotes you present. Only the likes of Alex Jones who have built their careers on selling this crap to the gullible, and the gullible themselves, see and believe what you you see and believe.

But tell me this. You state that the 'NWO' seeks to reduce the population by 80%, despite evidence to the contrary. Presumeably you see yourself and your family within that 80% and not the 20% elite who will stride the earth like gods once you're gone. So, question is...... what are you doing about it? Surely posting this stuff on a forum full of skeptics is not going to save you or your family....... but, is that all you can do? How do you sleep at night?

[timhau]

You have the right to have an opinon of alex and his films but you have no right to your own facts.

So Alex is the one entitled to his very own facts?

[uk_dave]

So Alex is the one entitled to his very own facts?

Well, reality doesn't have any use for them.

[funk de fino]

The wildland project talks about killing 80%. If someone finds a good pdf with their reports let me know.


LIAR again. It does not. Even if it did they are not the govt. Try again


http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/Food-Land96.html
http://www.uhuh.com/1calfraud/stacks/judymusin.htm

Still no proof of govt involvment?i


what are you talking about?, blame the libraries? i said i ONLY get my information from libraries and government sources, things that is proven. Funny how nobody has wanted to touche the facts in this thread, deny theme and loose your freedoms and die hard, have a good life. i live in sweden, do you think that america is the only country that has intelligent educated people that understands the NWO agenda?. holland, germany, sweden, every contry as truthers and soldiers.

We would touch facts but you have none. You just lie and parrot lies. You get your junk from stupid sites that lie about things.

[funk de fino]

The Wildlands Project has worked with the pedofile ring UN.


Th UN believe in some of their aims they do not work with them. Proof for the paedophile claims?

Wildlands want to reclaim land for nature and the earth so it survives. They want to ban people from areas to preserve the areas. They do not want to kill 80% of the population. Do you want the earth to survive and be healthy?

try again soldier

[Trifikas]

The Wildlands Project has worked with the pedofile ring UN.


So...sounds like a "Yes, The Wildlands Project conceived by convicted 'eco-warrior' Dave Foreman who co-founded the militant eco-group Earth First and serves as on the board of the Sierra Club is the one I'm talking about."

People can have opinions and ideas on how to combat ecological problems. Some of those ideas might come from people from the more extreme of the ends of the bell curve. "Convicted 'eco-warrior' Dave Foreman" (that's from Malmoe's first link, for those who dropped their program...) Would seem to be an example therof. I'm not sure his ideas can be taken as comming FROM the government, let alone as an official statement of Government policies.

THE WORLD IS ROUND. do you at least understand that? nothing in this world is true right? thats a new religion you cant trust anyting, japan dont exist, we cant know if the world is round or not, facts aint facts, the color green maybe is red?.

The world where I am is round. And that's fine. Whatever shape the world is where you are, that's fine too.

The only fact known so far is that Dave Foreman and probably others wrote up The "Wildlands Project" as their ideas of what can be done to combat failing ecology. Do you honestly think the ONLY way to rescue the environment is to kill off the population? Does it automatically means someone is going to try and Implement his ideas, let alone the government?

[afinemadness]

I just realized that I am a part of the conspiracy. Often when I am stuck in New Jersey traffic I have been know to say "The world would be a much better place with no other humans in it". I guess that means that since I was once a lifeguard for a city pool I am a government agent espousing the wiping out of 99.99% of the population.

[Malmoesoldier]

Th UN believe in some of their aims they do not work with them. Proof for the paedophile claims?

Wildlands want to reclaim land for nature and the earth so it survives. They want to ban people from areas to preserve the areas. They do not want to kill 80% of the population. Do you want the earth to survive and be healthy?

try again soldier

The wildland project wants to kill 80% of the population, they think humans are a virus. You dont research anything you just claim things.

The UN scandals has been all over the news.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_elite_sex_ring.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives_un_prostitution.html

[Sporanox]

The wildland project wants to kill 80% of the population, they think humans are a virus. You dont research anything you just claim things.

The UN scandals has been all over the news.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_elite_sex_ring.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives...stitution.html

First...you have paid no attention to other members correctly labeling the "wildland project" as the ramblings of a militant eco-lunatic.

Second...you are citing Alex Jones' website.

EDIT: Basically all Alex Jones does is spout baseless claims about every figure of authority in the world. So if I was countering using his tactics, then I would also be spouting baseless claims about him and you. Of course, that wouldn't make much sense would it?

-Sporanox

[timhau]

The UN scandals has been all over the news.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_elite_sex_ring.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives_un_prostitution.html


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_2939474e76995b74e.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=9470)

[Malmoesoldier]

First...you have paid no attention to other members correctly labeling the "wildland project" as the ramblings of a militant eco-lunatic.

Second...you are citing Alex Jones' website.

EDIT: Basically all Alex Jones does is spout baseless claims about every figure of authority in the world. So if I was countering using his tactics, then I would also be spouting baseless claims about him and you. Of course, that wouldn't make much sense would it?

-Sporanox

Nope i have paid no attention because they dont know what they are talking about and they dont read or research anything.

Yes it is alex jones website, that gives real sources, prisonplanet dont talk about things they cant prove, dont you know that? hehe. did you look at the page?. and when did alex jones lie by the way, i havent herad anything about that. next time dont make a fool of yourself and read the site.

[Sporanox]

Oops, I missed these gems:

They will have a hard time setting up their police state against the militia. we WILL destroy the cops in war. The elite knows that and dont give a damn about the cops. illuminati are training foreign troops to come in after the cops have all been destroyed by the people.

LOL, as if you could take on a SWAT team. Yeah right.

And as if the cops are the only thing you'd have to worry about. If "they" refers to the United States government, it's likely you'll be smoked from the sky by an AC-130 gunship that you can't even see. This is, of course, in the eventuality that you rebelled. Not a method of population control.

The wildland project talks about killing 80%. If someone finds a good pdf with their reports let me know.



http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/Food-Land96.html

You're citing...Kjos Ministries now. Well, look at that. Another paranoid "against the NWO" site filled with ramblings about how the government is going to brainwash kids in public schools.

-Sporanox

[timhau]

Yes it is alex jones website, that gives real sources, prisonplanet dont talk about things they cant prove, dont you know that? hehe. did you look at the page?. and when did alex jones lie by the way, i havent herad anything about that. next time dont make a fool of yourself and read the site.

Whee.

Dear M., there's a way for you into the elite 20%. Just do a MasterCard commercial. This is truly priceless stuff.

[BenBurch]

The wildland project wants to kill 80% of the population, they think humans are a virus. You dont research anything you just claim things.

I vote we start with you.

No, seriously, have you any idea how insane you sound when you invent things like that?

[Sporanox]

Nope i have paid no attention because they dont know what they are talking about and they dont read or research anything.

Yes it is alex jones website, that gives real sources, prisonplanet dont talk about things they cant prove, dont you know that? hehe. did you look at the page?. and when did alex jones lie by the way, i havent herad anything about that. next time dont make a fool of yourself and read the site.

They don't know what they're talking about? Look back: that's ALL you've stated. EVER. You have never tried to seriously counter any of their claims. In effect you've been offering your behind as a firing range target this whole time by simply posting articles from prisonplanet and desperately believing they're true.

If prisonplanet is so reliable, then how is it that they only cite obscure, unreliable, unimportant news agencies for most of their stories? And why is it that whenever they manage to cite a REAL news service, they take things millions of miles away from context?

And why is it that YOU are saying things that aren't even in the articles (e.g. wildlands link to "UN sex ring"?

Yes, I did read the page, to your detriment.

-Sporanox

[Malmoesoldier]

I am still waiting to see what alex has lied about. do you guys have a problem with showing me that? whats so hard about it?. hehe

And NSSM 200 is for the kids right. Im sorry but if you stand for a new world order you will only get a bullet in the head.

[Sporanox]

I am still waiting to see what alex has lied about. do you guys have a problem with showing me that? whats so hard about it?. hehe

And NSSM 200 is for the kids right. Im sorry but if you stand for a new world order you will only get a bullet in the head.

Alex Jones lies in that he has uncovered evidence of a massive government conspiracy...for basically anything. There is no proof of such. And when all the articles you link to are meaningless blatherings picked up either from moonbat news agencies or out of context, then it doesn't add up to much.

What on earth is NSSM 200?

-Sporanox

[afinemadness]

I am still waiting to see what alex has lied about. do you guys have a problem with showing me that? whats so hard about it?. hehe

And NSSM 200 is for the kids right. Im sorry but if you stand for a new world order you will only get a bullet in the head.
Let's see there is everything here: http://prisonplanet.com/

and here:http://infowars.com/

[uk_dave]

Let's see there is everything here: http://prisonplanet.com/

and here:http://infowars.com/

Just the names themselves are wrong... prison planet? Think about it..... are we imprisoned on this planet? How more paranoid can a person be?

And as for Infowars.... well there may well be a rather entertaining 'war' going on out there over information and who controls it, but Alex Jones sure aint one of the combatants.

[Sporanox]

To me, the very fact that Alex Jones is still alive and posting garbage regularly is evidence that the government does not conspire against us.

If this was real, he'd be wiped off the face of the earth in no time.

-Sporanox

[uk_dave]

Jones doesn't even uncover any 'secrets'. Both he and the watson twins (hmmmmm who pulls whose strings one wonders....) just take "publicly admitted" documents and statements and then Spin them to fit their agenda and then sell them to the kids.

[funk de fino]

The wildland project wants to kill 80% of the population, they think humans are a virus. You dont research anything you just claim things.


Everytime you post this lie I will call you on it for proof. You are wrong and you are lying. I looked at their site and nowhere does it say they want to kill 80% of the population. I thuink if you claim it you should at least have visited the site. Show me where they say this anywhere.

If you cannot then admit you are a liar.


The UN scandals has been all over the news.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_elite_sex_ring.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives_un_prostitution.html

Prisonplanet again? You said you get it from libraries or govt papers. Where are the sources you claim you have ?

[funk de fino]

I am still waiting to see what alex has lied about. do you guys have a problem with showing me that? whats so hard about it?. hehe

And NSSM 200 is for the kids right. Im sorry but if you stand for a new world order you will only get a bullet in the head.

Not from you tough guy. You would only succeed in breaking the window in your moms house.

Every post you put up here from AJ is junk. What about the major attack or false flag he predicted would happen before 911? Did it happen?

[Trifikas]

And NSSM 200 is for the kids right. Im sorry but if you stand for a new world order you will only get a bullet in the head.

Ah. The ever-popular "It's true! Believe it's true or all beat you up!" argument. Good show, old man.

[funk de fino]

Here is one lie linked to and claimed on PP.

Seven of the WTC Hijackers found alive!


Complete lie

[T.A.M.]

Nope i have paid no attention because they dont know what they are talking about and they dont read or research anything.

Yes it is alex jones website, that gives real sources, prisonplanet dont talk about things they cant prove, dont you know that? hehe. did you look at the page?. and when did alex jones lie by the way, i havent herad anything about that. next time dont make a fool of yourself and read the site.

OMG, you are not serious? most of your own movement considers him fringe now for cripes sake.

Prove things on his site wrong. This entire subforum and the evidence provided here is not enough? Come on man. OMG...too easy.

You do know some of the things he has PROMOTED right?

They are so numerous, that linking to them through his show highlights would take forever, but here is a list (courtesy of Conspiracy Smasher's blog)


The ruling elite of the world worship Moloch.
The secret rulers of the world can live forever.
The elite have openly announced that they want to kill 80% of us.
Vicente Fox can morph into a green devil. (Alex says he saw him do it. Honest.)
The Communist Chinese Army has taken over the Massachusetts Port Authority.
Jacques Cousteau wants to kill 80% of us. (Jacques, too!)
There are live AIDS viruses in the corn. (This means no sex with the corn. Sorry.)
91% of Americans are Nazis (Alex says anyone who favors gun control is a Nazi; 91% of Americans favor mandatory handgun registration)
Illegal aliens live the Life of Reilly in the United States, in hospital emergency rooms, they always get to go to the front of the line; they also get tax breaks, free school tuition, discounts on Twinkies, etc. It's part of a secret plot that only Alex Jones has figured out.

The government is spraying us with EVIL CHEMICALS contained in the contrails of planes (also poisoning themselves, I guess)
The United Nations goes around Africa, sterilizing women at random (twirling their moustaches & saying "Nya-ha-ha-haa!")
The Founding Fathers were stupid (they were Masons but they didn't know about the secret conspiracy so obvious to Alex & his friends)
all our soldiers are stupid (our honored dead were mere fools compared to Alex Jones)
Waco was a government plot.
Most power outages are government plots.
Illegal immigration is a government plot.
The counterculture is a government plot.
Vaccines are a you-know-what.
Thumbscanning is a government plot.
Environmentalism is a government plot.
The National Seatbelt Initiative is a government plot.
Feminism is a government plot.
Tollroads are a government plot.
Antidepressants are a government plot.
All domestic terror attacks are government plots.
Arnold Schwartzeneggar is part of an Austrian plot to take over America.
Masons can commit murder. They make a secret sign to the judges and are immediately set free.

Skull & Bones is part of an English plot to take over America.
The United Nations is part of a (very slow) plot to take over America.
Children's cartoons are part of a government plot to brainwash us.
The secret ruling elite of the world are putting up buildings that look like owls (only conspiracy people can see these owls, in case you were wondering)
Most major police chiefs are CIA operatives.
Gloria Steinham is a CIA operative.
The Quakers are all communists.
All of Clinton's cabinet were Jewish.
People have tattoos saying "Don't Kill Me" in Holland.
Lyndon Johnson had John Kennedy killed.
The UN has sold thousands of children into slavery & for snuff films.
Gays are actively recruiting in our schools.
The government keeps "giant, honeycombed hives full of toddlers drugged on lithium."
The Rothschilds funded Hitler.
Noam Chomsky is a mongoloid idiot. Also an agent.

91% of Americans are Nazis (Alex says anyone who favors gun control is a Nazi; 91% of Americans favor mandatory handgun registration)
The government is spraying us with EVIL CHEMICALS contained in the contrails of planes (also poisoning themselves, I guess. Shows you how ruthless the elite are.)
The United Nations goes around Africa, sterilizing women at random (twirling their moustaches & saying "Nya-ha-ha-haa!")
Every soldier who died in any war since the Civil War was a chump (you thought they were heroes; turns out they were nothing but fools; how's THAT for patriotism?)
Antidepressants are a government plot.
The United Nations is part of a (very slow) plot to take over America.
Mercury travels from Africa to Austin on the Jet Stream. That's why Austinites have so many allergies.
IQ's are going down. (IQ's are going up.)
The cancer rate is up. (Most cancer rates are down.)
During his inauguration, President Clinton openly gave the sign of Satan for all the world to see. (They all worship Moloch, don't forget. I don't know how we get to Satan from there...but Alex says.)
Alex Jones is saving humankind with his cable TV show, radio shows, & tapes (available for purchase, by the way).
Bad people are deliberately putting cancer viruses, AIDS viruses, & mercury in our vaccines (twirling their long moustaches & going "Nya-hahaha!").
9-11 was only the beginning; there are going to be lots of even bigger domestic attacks (4 years & waiting on this prediction, Alex).
Dick Cheney writes papers saying terrorism isn't real.
Most Americans believe the government was behind 9-11 (this is based on Alex's misreading of a Zogby poll; Alex misreads EVERYTHING)
They sacrifice babies at Bohemian Grove. (Imagine Richard Nixon sacrificing a baby.)
They only hire people with IQ's below 100 to become police officers. (Like most "Patriots," Alex Jones is essentially a cop-hater. He will say anything bad about the police.)


http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com/2006/05/alex-jones-911-conspiracy-kook.html

TAM:)

[uk_dave]

OMG, you are not serious? most of your own movement considers him fringe now for cripes sake.

Prove things on his site wrong. This entire subforum and the evidence provided here is not enough? Come on man. OMG...too easy.

You do know some of the things he has said right?

They are so numerous, that linking to them through his show highlights would take forever, but here is a list (courtesy of Conspiracy Smasher's blog)



http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com/2006/05/alex-jones-911-conspiracy-kook.html

TAM:)

Isn't that young perry "I'll go toowit if you go toowoo" logans list?

[Malmoesoldier]

Still waiting on those lies from alex. i wonder why you cant post any?. lol you guys really like to make a fool of yourselfs. complaining about the name of the site when i ask about proof of anything he has lied about. ******* geek

To me, the very fact that Alex Jones is still alive and posting garbage regularly is evidence that the government does not conspire against us.

If this was real, he'd be wiped off the face of the earth in no time.

-Sporanox

they kill people that are going to or has leaked information all the time, alex dont leak information he talks about information that already is there. and if they kill him they know what will happen, besides there are many people like alex. You dont know what NSSM 200 is? exactly, all you want to do is to tell me how much alex lies without backing it up.

[Malmoesoldier]

OMG, you are not serious? most of your own movement considers him fringe now for cripes sake.

Prove things on his site wrong. This entire subforum and the evidence provided here is not enough? Come on man. OMG...too easy.

You do know some of the things he has said right?

They are so numerous, that linking to them through his show highlights would take forever, but here is a list (courtesy of Conspiracy Smasher's blog)



http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com/2006/05/alex-jones-911-conspiracy-kook.html

TAM:)

I think you are joking. if not, then it is very sad....lol. you have no clue about what you quoted

[Sporanox]

they kill people that are going to or has leaked information all the time, alex dont leak information he talks about information that already is there. and if they kill him they know what will happen, besides there are many people like alex. You dont know what NSSM 200 is? exactly, all you want to do is to tell me how much alex lies without backing it up.

Alex Jones' statement that the government perpetrated 9/11 is NOT openly admitted. But he's said it. So...a fascist government would have reason to silence him.

And no I don't know what NSSM 200 is, and apparently it's not important enough for you to inform me about it.

I think you are joking. if not, then it is very sad....

I'm really starting to have it with you Malmoesoldier. In this thread, you have:

1) posted erroneous claims that even Jones doesn't post

2) claimed that you and fellow "rebels" can take on SWAT and the US military

3) apparently indicated you believe in Vincente Fox's morphing powers by your dismissal of TAM's list

As well as numerous other things. You aren't even arguing here. When we take the time to submit proof, you act like you can dismiss the whole affair with a wave of your hand.

See, I think that you're so deep into your worldview that you can't possibly fathom that it all might be wrong, that Alex Jones' conclusions are wrong, and that you've been following the wrong movement all these years. This is why you keep posting drivel. This is why you keep going despite your obvious intellectual bankruptcy. But I think it's time to admit...YOU HAVE NOTHING. You're even lazy about rebuttals...a bird could probably be trained to parrot the stuff you've written.

Just admit it, please. You can't match.

-Sporanox

[T.A.M.]

I think you are joking. if not, then it is very sad....lol. you have no clue about what you quoted

So of that list, please indicate which one ALEX JONES has not stated or suggested on his show...please.

TAM:)

[T.A.M.]

Isn't that young perry "I'll go toowit if you go toowoo" logans list?

It very well could be, as Logan is the foremost expert on all kookiness that is AJ. I got it from Smasher's Blog, but if it is Logan's, then credit to him.

TAM:)

[Gravy]

and when did alex jones lie by the way, i havent herad anything about that. That's because you don't bother researching what he says. Here (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/alexjonesvilifiesthefdnyandlarrysilverst) are several of many, many examples of Alex Jones lying:

“See, guys, this is all ‘strawman.’ We never said the firemen were involved. He just claimed we said it. He’s a liar! That’s what liars do. They build straw men.”

“Just like you heard it: he claimed we blamed the firemen. We never said that. He just made it up.”

“He blamed us for saying the firefighters were in on it.”

“He’s claiming I blame firefighters. ...And none of it’s true.”

“He set the subject, he made up that we blame the firefighters.”
Alex Jones’ PrisonPlanet.com:
Silverstein, FDNY Decided to “Pull WTC 7”
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03101.jpg/03101-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03101.jpg/03101-full.jpg)

Alex Jones’ Infowars.com:

“World Trade Center Imploded by Silverstein, FDNY And Others”
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03102.jpg/03102-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03102.jpg/03102-full.jpg)

Alex Jones’ Infowars.com:
“Update: People Died in WTC 7: This Makes Silverstein
and the FDNY Guilty of AT LEAST Manslaughter

***


Didn’t they “Pull” WTC building 6 with explosives?


Alex Jones says they did, on the Infowars.com page that’s linked above:

Jones: "We know that the term 'pull it' means to bring the building down by means of explosives because in the same documentary a cleanup worker refers to the demolition of WTC Building 6 when he says, '...we're getting ready to pull building six.' "

We are directed to this brief video clip (http://www.infowars.com/Video/911/pull-it2_lo.wmv).

Yes, that worker certainly does say they’re getting ready to “pull” building six. Then we have a quote from Luis Mendes, from the NYC Department of Design and Construction:

“We had to be very careful about how we demolished building 6. We were worried about building 6 coming down and damaging the slurry walls, so we wanted that particular building to fall within a certain area.”

Interesting. They needed to be sure that building 6 came down in a “controlled” way.

But wait a second: the video clip that Alex Jones presents – the clip that’s shown on all the conspiracist websites –ends abruptly at this point. Huh? Where’s the money shot? Why’d they cut it there? Here’s why:

Because the following scene shows how building 6 was “pulled”: with cables attached to the hydraulic arms of four excavators, not with explosive charges.
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03301.jpg/03301-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03301.jpg/03301-full.jpg)
Supervisor: “We’ve got the cables attached in four different locations going up. Now they’re pulling the building to the north. It’s not every day you try to pull down a eight story building with cables.”


http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/003302.jpg/003302-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/003302.jpg/003302-full.jpg)
Narrator Kevin Spacey: “The use of explosives to demolish World Trade Centers 4, 5 and 6 was rejected for fear workers would risk their lives entering buildings to set the charges.”

****


Care to defend these lies by your hero, Malmoesoldier?

[timhau]

Base to stundie nominators. Base to stundie nominators. Candidate coming up any minute.

[Unsecured Coins]

10 bucks says he'll ask for evidence that the above site was not manipulated or altered in any way

[Malmoesoldier]

Alex Jones' statement that the government perpetrated 9/11 is NOT openly admitted. But he's said it. So...a fascist government would have reason to silence him.

And no I don't know what NSSM 200 is, and apparently it's not important enough for you to inform me about it.



I'm really starting to have it with you Malmoesoldier. In this thread, you have:

1) posted erroneous claims that even Jones doesn't post

2) claimed that you and fellow "rebels" can take on SWAT and the US military

3) apparently indicated you believe in Vincente Fox's morphing powers by your dismissal of TAM's list

As well as numerous other things. You aren't even arguing here. When we take the time to submit proof, you act like you can dismiss the whole affair with a wave of your hand.

See, I think that you're so deep into your worldview that you can't possibly fathom that it all might be wrong, that Alex Jones' conclusions are wrong, and that you've been following the wrong movement all these years. This is why you keep posting drivel. This is why you keep going despite your obvious intellectual bankruptcy. But I think it's time to admit...YOU HAVE NOTHING. You're even lazy about rebuttals...a bird could probably be trained to parrot the stuff you've written.

Just admit it, please. You can't match.

-Sporanox

First of all in real life if somebody would make lies like that i would knock theme out, to lie about people is not a cool thing to do. that list about alex is complete BS. and if you read in this thread you find evidence of that they want to reduce the population. there are alot of other reports with evidence i will post theme as soon as i get a hold of theme, do you even know how much info there are on this subject? maybe you dont want to research it yourself but at least read what i have posted.

NSSM 200 is a 1974 secret report prepared for the outgoing U.S. President Richard Nixon which discussing ways to drastically reduce world’s population base. The underlying premise of the report is that Planet Earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people. The report was signed by Henry Kissinger.

Point 29 of the report speaks volumes about the oligarchy’s true intentions. The plan was to reduce the world’s population by 500 million towards the year 2000 (from 1974) and by 3 billion by the year 2050.

“Mandatory programs may be needed and we should be considering these possibilities now," “Would food be considered an instrument of national power?. Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?”

There are alot of sick stuff in that document just read it.

Do you think that document is normal in anyway? yes or no.

[Sporanox]

No, I think he'll just dismiss the entire enterprise as one big joke...because, obviously, Gravy "doesn't know what he's talking about."

Just imagine we all debated Malmoesoldier with his preferred methods:

"lol no that's a joke, you've got it all wrong."
"dude no way. You don't understand what you're talking about."
"You haven't proved anything."
"oh yeah well [totally unrelated link]"
"haha yeah right man [totally unrelated link]"

The thread could go on to infinity, in theory...

-Sporanox

[DGM]

Malmoe;
Where did you get your "NIST broke the law" idea or did you make that up yourself?

[T.A.M.]

The ruling elite of the world worship Moloch.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1358319439993514946
The secret rulers of the world can live forever.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/video_secret_rulers_of_the_world.htm
The elite have openly announced that they want to kill 80% of us.
http://www.infowars.com/videos.html
(go to 9/11 : Descent into Tyranny)


There are the first three...should we carry on?

TAM:)

[Gravy]

First of all in real life if somebody would make lies like that i would knock theme out, to lie about people is not a cool thing to do. So you're going to knock Alex Jones out? When? And you're going to knock yourself out? How? Please be careful. I'm not sure that brain damage will help you.

[Sporanox]

First of all in real life if somebody would make lies like that i would knock theme out, to lie about people is not a cool thing to do. that list about alex is complete BS.

Uh huh. Why so? I'm not going to take your word for it.

Oh by the way see Gravy's post.

and if you read in this thread you find evidence of that they want to reduce the population. there are alot of other reports with evidence i will post theme as soon as i get a hold of theme, do you even know how much info there are on this subject? maybe you dont want to research it yourself but at least read what i have posted.

You haven't defined "they." According to you, the ramblings of militant eco-environmentalists is enough to convict the unrelated government of conspiracy.

In fact other members have long pointed out on this thread that there is nothing in the actual documents that substantiates anything you've been saying. Yet...

You just repeat the same things.

Do you really think that being a nonresponsive robot is going to help you? If not then do something else.

NSSM 200 is a 1974 secret report prepared for the outgoing U.S. President Richard Nixon which discussing ways to drastically reduce world’s population base. The underlying premise of the report is that Planet Earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people. The report was signed by Henry Kissinger.

Point 29 of the report speaks volumes about the oligarchy’s true intentions. The plan was to reduce the world’s population by 500 million towards the year 2000 (from 1974) and by 3 billion by the year 2050.

Provide the document. Even so, your "evidence" that you posted in quotes doesn't convict anybody. The last sentence is about the US HELPING people with food rationing. If you see a global conspiracy in something, then attempt to point it out using reasoning that everybody who isn't reading your mind can follow.

In conclusion, read Gravy's post.

-Sporanox

[bynmdsue]

NSSM 200 is a 1974 secret report prepared for the outgoing U.S. President Richard Nixon which discussing ways to drastically reduce world’s population base. The underlying premise of the report is that Planet Earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people. The report was signed by Henry Kissinger.

There you go again.The underlying premise of that report is obviously wrong as there are over 6 billion people living here on earth now.

[Gravy]

NSSM 200 is a 1974 secret report prepared for the outgoing U.S. President Richard Nixon which discussing ways to drastically reduce world’s population base.False. It proposes ways to slow population growth. It also discusses ways to improve the health of the existing population "base."

How many times do you have to have this explained to you?

Malmoe, your behavior is extremely irrational and immature. Please stop and think about what you are doing.

[Malmoesoldier]

That's because you don't bother researching what he says. Here (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/alexjonesvilifiesthefdnyandlarrysilverst) are several of many, many examples of Alex Jones lying:

Alex Jones’ PrisonPlanet.com:
Silverstein, FDNY Decided to “Pull WTC 7”
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03101.jpg/03101-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03101.jpg/03101-full.jpg)

Alex Jones’ Infowars.com:

“World Trade Center Imploded by Silverstein, FDNY And Others”
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03102.jpg/03102-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03102.jpg/03102-full.jpg)

Alex Jones’ Infowars.com:
“Update: People Died in WTC 7: This Makes Silverstein
and the FDNY Guilty of AT LEAST Manslaughter

***


Didn’t they “Pull” WTC building 6 with explosives?


Alex Jones says they did, on the Infowars.com page that’s linked above:

Jones: "We know that the term 'pull it' means to bring the building down by means of explosives because in the same documentary a cleanup worker refers to the demolition of WTC Building 6 when he says, '...we're getting ready to pull building six.' "

We are directed to this brief video clip (http://www.infowars.com/Video/911/pull-it2_lo.wmv).

Yes, that worker certainly does say they’re getting ready to “pull” building six. Then we have a quote from Luis Mendes, from the NYC Department of Design and Construction:

“We had to be very careful about how we demolished building 6. We were worried about building 6 coming down and damaging the slurry walls, so we wanted that particular building to fall within a certain area.”

Interesting. They needed to be sure that building 6 came down in a “controlled” way.

But wait a second: the video clip that Alex Jones presents – the clip that’s shown on all the conspiracist websites –ends abruptly at this point. Huh? Where’s the money shot? Why’d they cut it there? Here’s why:

Because the following scene shows how building 6 was “pulled”: with cables attached to the hydraulic arms of four excavators, not with explosive charges.
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03301.jpg/03301-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03301.jpg/03301-full.jpg)
Supervisor: “We’ve got the cables attached in four different locations going up. Now they’re pulling the building to the north. It’s not every day you try to pull down a eight story building with cables.”


http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/003302.jpg/003302-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/003302.jpg/003302-full.jpg)
Narrator Kevin Spacey: “The use of explosives to demolish World Trade Centers 4, 5 and 6 was rejected for fear workers would risk their lives entering buildings to set the charges.”

****


Care to defend these lies by your hero, Malmoesoldier?


Are there any video of when you talk to alex??. I knew somebody was going to bring 9-11 up. i dont care about 9-11, he talks about 100 different things every day on radio, i want to here lies he makes about nwo and the government, not arguments about 9-11. and he didnt lie, he didnt know that people died in WTC7 before Barry spoke out, after he heard that he changed his view that maybe some of the people of the FDNY was guilty. And pull it those mean to bring a building down with explosives.

[DGM]

Uh huh. Why so? I'm not going to take your word for it.

Oh by the way see Gravy's post.



You haven't defined "they." According to you, the ramblings of militant eco-environmentalists is enough to convict the unrelated government of conspiracy.

In fact other members have long pointed out on this thread that there is nothing in the actual documents that substantiates anything you've been saying. Yet...

You just repeat the same things.

Do you really think that being a nonresponsive robot is going to help you? If not then do something else.



Provide the document. Even so, your "evidence" that you posted in quotes doesn't convict anybody. The last sentence is about the US HELPING people with food rationing. If you see a global conspiracy in something, then attempt to point it out using reasoning that everybody who isn't reading your mind can follow.

In conclusion, read Gravy's post.

-Sporanox
Here is the NSSM 200 document.
http://www.population-security.org/11-CH3.html

It doesn't state anything that Malmoe says though.

ETA He does actually get the date right. Sorry Malmoe.

[Lennart Hyland]

First of all in real life if somebody would make lies like that i would knock theme out, to lie about people is not a cool thing to do. that list about alex is complete BS.

Come on!!!!

Hey isnt this on tape?

“See, guys, this is all ‘strawman.’ We never said the firemen were involved. He just claimed we said it. He’s a liar! That’s what liars do. They build straw men.”

“Just like you heard it: he claimed we blamed the firemen. We never said that. He just made it up.”

“He blamed us for saying the firefighters were in on it.”

“He’s claiming I blame firefighters. ...And none of it’s true.”

“He set the subject, he made up that we blame the firefighters.”

If it is...then pls show Malmoe it! He think we just made that up. Alex Jones tells us on his website that FDNY with others is behind the collapse of WTC7, but in real life he lies and says he have never said something like that.

Malmoe that proves that Alex Jones is a complete liar.

[timhau]

Just imagine we all debated Malmoesoldier with his preferred methods:

"lol no that's a joke, you've got it all wrong."
"dude no way. You don't understand what you're talking about."
"You haven't proved anything."
"oh yeah well [totally unrelated link]"
"haha yeah right man [totally unrelated link]"


Why not copy the original and go like this:

"None shall pass."
"I'm invincible!"
"Malmoesoldier always triumphs!"

[DGM]

Are there any video of when you talk to alex??. I knew somebody was going to bring 9-11 up. i dont care about 9-11, he talks about 100 different things every day on radio, i want to here lies he makes about nwo and the government, not arguments about 9-11. and he didnt lie, he didnt know that people died in WTC7 before Barry spoke out, after he heard that he changed his view that maybe some of the people of the FDNY was guilty. And pull it those mean to bring a building down with explosives.
What Malmoe, he only lies when he talks about 9/11?

Is that OK?

ETA No one died in WTC 7

[Lennart Hyland]

Why not copy the original and go like this:

"None shall pass."
"I'm invincible!"
"Malmoesoldier always triumphs!"

and the famous

"Everything in my post is right. I never lie."

[Malmoesoldier]

There are the first three...should we carry on?

TAM:)

All true. but he has said that scientist are workong of ways to make life longer witch is true, and that the elite is the only ones that will have it, and that is offcourse true to, nobody will have money to buy it.

[T.A.M.]

Vicente Fox can morph into a green devil. (Alex says he saw him do it. Honest.)
- I have researched this one, and apparently it is uniquely Perry, so for now I will concede this one is unproven.

The Communist Chinese Army has taken over the Massachusetts Port Authority.
- Also seems limited to Logan's earwitness account, so we will leave this one...for now.

Jacques Cousteau wants to kill 80% of us. (Jacques, too!)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/030406massculling.htm

One of the most chilling admissions of deadly intent came from the lips of the late Jacques Cousteau, the sainted environmental icon. In an interview with the UNESCO Courier for November 1991 the famed oceanographer said:

"The damage people cause to the planet is a function of demographics — it is equal to the degree of development. One American burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangaladeshes. The damage is directly linked to consumption. Our society is turning toward more and needless consumption. It is a vicious circle that I compare to cancer...."

"This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it’s just as bad not to say it."


TAM:)

[Malmoesoldier]

What Malmoe, he only lies when he talks about 9/11?

Is that OK?

ETA No one died in WTC 7

I just said why he didnt lie....

[T.A.M.]

All true. but he has said that scientist are workong of ways to make life longer witch is true, and that the elite is the only ones that will have it, and that is offcourse true to, nobody will have money to buy it.

I particularly do not care what your interpretation of what AJ "may" have meant is. You were doubting the list, so let us go through it...I have already conceded two of the list, for now, as Perry Logan hearsay.

TAM:)

[DGM]

I just said why he didnt lie....
So he didn't say he blames the FDNY and then denied it later.

You sir are hopeless.

[Gravy]

Come on!!!!

Hey isnt this on tape?

If it is...then pls show Malmoe it! He think we just made that up. Alex Jones tells us on his website that FDNY with others is behind the collapse of WTC7, but in real life he lies and says he have never said something like that.

Malmoe that proves that Alex Jones is a complete liar.In my last post I linked to this page (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/alexjonesvilifiesthefdnyandlarrysilverst), which links to the video and shows a transcript.

[Malmoesoldier]

- I have researched this one, and apparently it is uniquely Perry, so for now I will concede this one is unproven.


- Also seems limited to Logan's earwitness account, so we will leave this one...for now.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/030406massculling.htm


TAM:)

omg... he claims jones said Jacques Cousteau wants to kill 80% of the population and gives a link to prisonplanet where they only state what he said, witch is "we must eliminate 350,000 people per day."... lol

by the way it isnt alex jones who writes articles on prisonplanet it is mostly other guys.

[BenBurch]

Correction; Alex Jones LIES about 100 things every day.

If the man told me that the Moon still orbits the Earth, I'd have to go look before I would believe him.

[DGM]

omg... he claims jones said Jacques Cousteau wants to kill 80% of the population and gives a link to prisonplanet where they only state what he said, witch is "we must eliminate 350,000 people per day."... lol

by the way it isnt alex jones who writes articles on prisonplanet it is mostly other guys.

Let the back peddling begin.:D

[Malmoesoldier]

So he didn't say he blames the FDNY and then denied it later.

You sir are hopeless.

Read my post please!. alex said that FDNY hadnt anything to do with 9-11 then after Barry spoke out he changed his mind.

Do you mean he has changed his mind again? if so give me a source.

[Malmoesoldier]

Let the back peddling begin.:D


i just proved one of TAM claims wrong :D

[T.A.M.]

There are live AIDS viruses in the corn. (This means no sex with the corn. Sorry.)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_ronning_310103_pharmacy.html


91% of Americans are Nazis (Alex says anyone who favors gun control is a Nazi; 91% of Americans favor mandatory handgun registration)[quote]

AJ said anyone who favors gun control is a Nazi. As to the jump that therefore 91% of american's are nazis, these are not AJs actual words, and I think the jump is not correct.

[quote]
Illegal aliens live the Life of Reilly in the United States, in hospital emergency rooms, they always get to go to the front of the line; they also get tax breaks, free school tuition, discounts on Twinkies, etc. It's part of a secret plot that only Alex Jones has figured out.

http://prisonplanet.com/audio/180507immigration.mp3

TAM:)

[Gravy]

by the way it isnt alex jones who writes articles on prisonplanet it is mostly other guys.You'd better read my post #108 again. It links to:

– A video of Jones repeatedly lying to me, to the cameras, and to the public, at Ground Zero.

– An "In-depth video analysis" by Alex Jones, in which he accuses the FDNY of conspiring and destroying WTC building 7.

– A video in which Alex Jones claims that a documentary shows an example of "pull it" used as a term used for explosive demolitions, when that documentary explicitly shows and states the opposite.

[Lennart Hyland]

omg... he claims jones said Jacques Cousteau wants to kill 80% of the population and gives a link to prisonplanet where they only state what he said, witch is "we must eliminate 350,000 people per day."... lol

by the way it isnt alex jones who writes articles on prisonplanet it is mostly other guys.

Yes in order to STABALISE WORLD POPULATION!

But how is that going do you think? Are we killing 350 000 people every day? No.

[T.A.M.]

omg... he claims jones said Jacques Cousteau wants to kill 80% of the population and gives a link to prisonplanet where they only state what he said, witch is "we must eliminate 350,000 people per day."... lol

by the way it isnt alex jones who writes articles on prisonplanet it is mostly other guys.

1. They represent Alex Jones
2. read the entire quote, with the BOLDED parts...the opinion of the author, is that what Cousteau says is a "most chilling admissions of deadly intent."

TAM:)

[DGM]

Read my post please!. alex said that FDNY hadnt anything to do with 9-11 then after Barry spoke out he changed his mind.

Do you mean he has changed his mind again? if so give me a source.
Gravy did! He denied it in public. He said he never said that. It's in print and his words are on video. BUSTED

[BenBurch]

Yes in order to STABALISE WORLD POPULATION!

But how is that going do you think? Are we killing 350 000 people every day? No.

Well we better get cracking!

Seriously, that is about to happen unless we develop an alternative to fossil fuels in the next 30 years or so. I cannot see how we can maintain agriculture without fuel. The consequences will make us wish only 80% of us had died...

[Lennart Hyland]

Well we better get cracking!

Seriously, that is about to happen unless we develop an alternative to fossil fuels in the next 30 years or so. I cannot see how we can maintain agriculture without fuel. The consequences will make us wish only 80% of us had died...

Yes exactly. That is was the meaning of the whole sentence (killing 350,000 people) is about. He want to scare us about our coming future.

But we will never kill 350 000 people everyday or 80% of the population but it would be the best thing for the planet.

Malmoe however will ignore this post and keep coming with his claims.

Over and out from Sweden, Good night! :)

[Malmoesoldier]

Gravy did! He denied it in public. He said he never said that. It's in print and his words are on video. BUSTED

LOL. gravys video is from 2006. alex changed his mind after that, when Barry spoke out..

[Malmoesoldier]

But we will never kill 350 000 people everyday or 80% of the population but it would be the best thing for the planet.

LOLOLOL. will you and your family go first?. you make me sick

[DGM]

LOL. gravys video if from 2006. alex changed his mind after that, when Barry spoke out..
He said it before. Are you impaired? So Alex said they did it then denied he said it. That's changing your mind?

[timhau]

He said it before. Are you impaired? So Alex said they did it then denied he said it. That's changing your mind?

No, it's telling the truth, because AJ never lies. It's just that reality changed at some point.

[Unsecured Coins]

Are there any video of when you talk to alex??.
Those quotes at the beginning are an exchange between Mark and Alex, IIRC

And pull it those mean to bring a building down with explosives.
Someone needs dense-itivity training. :rolleyes: Read the whole thing, padawan, and you'll see where it explains how a building is "pulled"

[funk de fino]

I think everyone can see real mental illness manifesting itself in the lies being put forward by malmoe

I despair for him

[BenBurch]

No, it's telling the truth, because AJ never lies. It's just that reality changed at some point.

Ooooooh! Must be some of that-there Quantum stuff... ;)

[T.A.M.]

The government is spraying us with EVIL CHEMICALS contained in the contrails of planes (also poisoning themselves, I guess)
http://www.newsofinterest.tv/audio/alexJones/alexJones_chemtrailsIntro.m3u


The United Nations goes around Africa, sterilizing women at random (twirling their moustaches & saying "Nya-ha-ha-haa!")

Martial Law video extra features addresses this.


I can add another to the list....

Apparently, Wolf Blitzer is a Moussad Agent.
http://prisonplanet.com/audio/180507immigration.mp3
(time=9:18)

TAM:)

[Gravy]

LOL. gravys video is from 2006. alex changed his mind after that, when Barry spoke out..

Wrong again, Malmoe.

The video of me arguing with Jones, where he repeatedly denies blaming the FDNY, is from September, 2006.

The videos and quotes from Jones' websites, accusing the FDNY of conspiracy and demolishing WTC 7, have been online since January (http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html) and February, 2004. (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.prisonplanet.com/012004watson.html)

Do you agree that you got this wrong, Malmoe? I want to see if you have the capacity to say, "I was wrong."

[Malmoesoldier]

You cant show me where alex BLAMES some of the fire fighters for the CONSPIRACY of 911 BEFORE barry spoke out, gravy didnt do it, does anybody els have the proof? nope.

IF alex said that FDNY pulled the bulding before barry spoke out, that doesnt say anything, that isnt to BLAME the FDNY for the conspiracy, all that means is that FDNY followed orders to blow WTC7 up. i know that some of you here will have a hard time to understand this, since you want 80% of the population to die, beacuse it would be the best thing for the earth. cya at the battlefield.

[uk_dave]

Are there any video of when you talk to alex??. I knew somebody was going to bring 9-11 up. i dont care about 9-11, he talks about 100 different things every day on radio, i want to here lies he makes about nwo and the government, not arguments about 9-11. and he didnt lie, he didnt know that people died in WTC7 before Barry spoke out, after he heard that he changed his view that maybe some of the people of the FDNY was guilty. And pull it those mean to bring a building down with explosives.

Oh boy.....

:hit:

[Gravy]

You cant show me where alex BLAMES some of the fire fighters for the CONSPIRACY of 911 BEFORE barry spoke out, gravy didnt do it, does anybody els have the proof? nope.You need to read my last post.

Do you understand that by saying the FDNY was involved in this conspiracy, Jones is saying that all the firefighters who were there and had to make challenging decisions, and who tell us why they made those decisions, are liars?

FDNY Chief of Department Daniel Nigro Addresses WTC 7 Conspiracy Theories (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=94103)

First Responder accounts of WTC 7 fires (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/eyewitnessaccountsofwtc7fires)

First Responder (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/eyewitnessaccountsofwtc7fires) accounts of WTC 7 damage (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/accountsofwtc7damage)

First Responder (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/eyewitnessaccountsofwtc7fires) accounts of withdrawal and hold back from WTC 7 due to danger (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/eyewitnessaccountsofthewithdrawalfromwtc)

Jones claims the firefighters' version of events is false. Do you think the firefighters are liars, Malmoe?

he didnt know that people died in WTC7 before Barry spoke outNo one died in WTC 7. No one. That claim was made on Jones' website in 2004, and it is false. But the claim has not been retracted.

Do you think the firefighters who were on the scene are liars, Malmoe?

[Malmoesoldier]

Oh boy.....

:hit:

How can you blame somebody for manslaughter when nobody died there?, he didnt do it, THEN when he heard Barry he CHANGED his mind. and to say that FDNY pulled the bulding isnt blaming theme for the CONSPIRACY.

[timhau]

This is a pretty good simulation of what a severe concussion feels like.

[uk_dave]

People didn't die in wtc7...

malmoe...take a breather.... get some perspective... look out of the window....go down the pub.... no one gives a flying **** about your paranoid theories... life goes on, the world may not be perfect but no one is out to kill you simply because you exist.... it might mean life isn't as exciting as you'd like to think, or it might mean you can't blame someone else for your own failings.... but reality really is much better than the fantasy you've bought in to, you just have to know how to live it.

[Malmoesoldier]

You need to read my last post.

Do you understand that by saying the FDNY was involved in this conspiracy, Jones is saying that all the firefighters who were there and had to make challenging decisions, and who tell us why they made those decisions, are liars.

FDNY Chief of Department Daniel Nigro Addresses WTC 7 Conspiracy Theories (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=94103)

First Responder accounts of WTC 7 fires (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/eyewitnessaccountsofwtc7fires)

First Responder (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/eyewitnessaccountsofwtc7fires) accounts of WTC 7 damage (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/accountsofwtc7damage)

First Responder (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/eyewitnessaccountsofwtc7fires) accounts of withdrawal and hold back from WTC 7 due to danger (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/eyewitnessaccountsofthewithdrawalfromwtc)

Do you think the firefighters are liars, Malmoe?

No one died in WTC 7. No one. That claim was made on Jones' website in 2004, and it is false. But the claim has not been retracted.

Do you think the firefighters who were on the scene are liars, Malmoe?

Can you please show me where alex jones is blameing the fire fighters for the conspiracy of 9-11 before you talked to him at ground zero, or do you only have quotes from prisonplanet where they say "FDNY pulled WTC7" ?.

If you show me where he blames FDNY for the conspiracy before you talked to him i will believe you. but to say they "pulled the building" isnt BLAMEING theme for the conspiracy.....

[Gravy]

How can you blame somebody for manslaughter when nobody died there?You need to ask Jones and the Watson brothers that. They are the ones who make this false accusation. I have tried to ask them, but they do not respond to me, and I was banned from Jones' forum when I brought this up.

Will you ask Jones and the Watsons why these claims still appear on the websites, Malmoe? You want the truth, don't you?


he didnt do it, THEN when he heard Barry he CHANGED his mind.Wrong again, Malmoe. Jones has been publicly making these claims since January, 2004.

and to say that FDNY pulled the bulding isnt blaming theme for the CONSPIRACY.Wrong again, Malmoe. He says they conspired with Silverstein and the Port Authority to destroy the building. He says the firefighters are lying about what happened.

Do you think the firefighters are lying, Malmoe? Yes or no?

Is there anything about this that you do not understand? If so, I will try to explain it to you in a more simple way.

[Malmoesoldier]

People didn't die in wtc7...

malmoe...take a breather.... get some perspective... look out of the window....go down the pub.... no one gives a flying **** about your paranoid theories... life goes on, the world may not be perfect but no one is out to kill you simply because you exist.... it might mean life isn't as exciting as you'd like to think, or it might mean you can't blame someone else for your own failings.... but reality really is much better than the fantasy you've bought in to, you just have to know how to live it.

Illuminati isnt a real group?. High degree Freemasons doesnt worship satan?, global warming is caused by man? fbi didnt kill kids at waco?. you know noting about history.

[Malmoesoldier]

You need to ask Jones and the Watson brothers that. They are the ones who make this false accusation. I have tried to ask them, but they do not respond to me, and I was banned from Jones' forum when I brought this up.

Will you ask Jones and the Watsons why these claims still appear on the websites, Malmoe? You want the truth, don't you?


Wrong again, Malmoe. Jones has been publicly making these claims since January, 2004.

Is there anything about this that you do not understand? If so, I will try to explain it to you in a more simple way.

Gravy. Can you please show me where alex jones is blameing the fire fighters for the conspiracy of 9-11 before you talked to him at ground zero, or do you only have quotes from prisonplanet where they say "FDNY pulled WTC7" ?.

If you show me where he blames FDNY for the conspiracy before you talked to him i will believe you and admit alex was wrong on that one. but to say they "pulled the building" isnt BLAMEING theme for the conspiracy.....

[timhau]

As far as concussions go, this is Eric Lindros territory now.

[afinemadness]

Illuminati isnt a real group?. High degree Freemasons doesnt worship satan?, global warming is caused by man? fbi didnt kill kids at waco?. you know noting about history.

No there is no Illuminati

There may be high degree masons that worship satan but that is done outside of the lodge. There are nuts in every group.

Global warming is a result of both man made and natural causes.

The FBI did not kill kids on purpose in Waco. They did all they could to get the nutjobs to let the kids out before it escalated.

You just know nothing

[Gravy]

Banned for asking for help in getting Jones to acknowledge his errors and retract his false claims. Wasn't that a horrible thing of me to ask?

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/MarkPostAlexJones.jpg

[Gravy]

Gravy. Can you please show me where alex jones is blameing the fire fighters for the conspiracy of 9-11 before you talked to him at ground zero, or do you only have quotes from prisonplanet where they say "FDNY pulled WTC7" ?. What is your problem, Malmoe? I already did. These are all from 2004.

Silverstein, FDNY Decided to “Pull WTC 7”
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03101.jpg/03101-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03101.jpg/03101-full.jpg)

Alex Jones’ Infowars.com:

“World Trade Center Imploded by Silverstein, FDNY And Others”
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03102.jpg/03102-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03102.jpg/03102-full.jpg)

Alex Jones’ Infowars.com:
“Update: People Died in WTC 7: This Makes Silverstein
and the FDNY Guilty of AT LEAST Manslaughter

Clear enough, Malmoe?

I ask you again: do you, like Jones, think the firefighters are lying about what happened at the WTC on 9/11?

[T.A.M.]

The Founding Fathers were stupid (they were Masons but they didn't know about the secret conspiracy so obvious to Alex & his friends)
- Can't find a direct quote of this, so either it was said on one of his talk shows, or Perry (or whoever created this list) is making some connection between Jone's hatred for Masons and that the Founding Fathers were Masons, and adding the two...


all our soldiers are stupid (our honored dead were mere fools compared to Alex Jones)

I can find no such quote from him online with a cursory search.


Waco was a government plot.

Well this one is being discussed here, and Jones has made his views on this known.
America: Wake Up (Or Waco) (2000)


Most power outages are government plots.
http://www.infowars.com/transcripts/Heston_%2001_18_01.html


oh a new one, from the same mp3 above...

Alex believes Doctors are locking people with TB up in sanitoriums FOR LIFE, and are giving them drugs to PURPOSELY KILL THEM to get rid of the TB. (30:10 mark)

TAM:)

[Malmoesoldier]

The FBI did not kill kids on purpose in Waco. They did all they could to get the nutjobs to let the kids out before it escalated.

You just know nothing

I HAVE IT ON TAPE WHEN FBI PUTS THE HOUSE ON FIRE. WAKE UP. LEARN THE FACTS.

What is your problem, Malmoe? I already did. These are all from 2004.

Silverstein, FDNY Decided to “Pull WTC 7”
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03101.jpg/03101-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03101.jpg/03101-full.jpg)

Alex Jones’ Infowars.com:

“World Trade Center Imploded by Silverstein, FDNY And Others”
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03102.jpg/03102-full.jpg (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/03102.jpg/03102-full.jpg)

Alex Jones’ Infowars.com:
“Update: People Died in WTC 7: This Makes Silverstein
and the FDNY Guilty of AT LEAST Manslaughter

Clear enough, Malmoe?

I ask you again: do you, like Jones, think the firefighters are lying about what happened at the WTC on 9/11?


So you have NO PROOF that he blamed theme for the conspiracy.... the Update: People Died in WTC 7: This Makes Silverstein and the FDNY Guilty of AT LEAST Manslaughter" that was AFTER you talked to him at ground zero.

To say FDNY pulled WTC7 isnt blameing theme for the CONSPIRACY. And yes i think that some fire fighers maybe got the order to pull WTC7.

But it is proven witch 100% facts that it was an inside job. look up who illuminati are, then maybe you will slowly start to understand things, read pawns in the game and tragedy and hope. good luck.

[T.A.M.]

Illegal immigration is a government plot.

http://prisonplanet.com/audio/180507immigration.mp3
(31:30 onward)


The counterculture is a government plot.
http://resistrevolt.com/2007/11/21/alex-jones-endgame-15-online-next-week-deep-details-of-the-nwo-plan-for-worldwide-mass-murder-that-includes-you-and-everyone-you-know/

The leadership of both government and non-governmental organizations believe that nature is God and have embarked on a campaign to use the global environmental movement as a tool for consolidating power and ultimately reducing world population to “save the earth”. They began by manufacturing the new age and counter-culture movements of the 60’s, which manifest today as the global warming movement and doomsday proclamations about the world’s impending eco-apocalypse.

TAM:)

[T.A.M.]

vaccines are you know what

Alex Jones on Vaccines:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6584111420371376452

TAM:)

[BenBurch]

i just proved one of TAM claims wrong :D

Not even CLOSE.

You can stay as long as you want to, but you should know we all have you sized up as a fool by now and are only playing with you for amusement...

[BenBurch]

Illuminati isnt a real group?

We are quite real.

However, we do not control the planet.

We can barely control our own fraternity.

[BenBurch]

No there is no Illuminati

There is, but Malemute wouldn't recognize it as such.

[afinemadness]

There is, but Malemute wouldn't recognize it as such.

I guess he just is not bright enough.


Sorry I tried to not do a stupid pun but could not resist

[Malmoesoldier]

Not even CLOSE.

You can stay as long as you want to, but you should know we all have you sized up as a fool by now and are only playing with you for amusement...

They didnt say it ANYWHERE, that he said that he wanted 80% dead. LIER

and the WTC steel cant prove anything like you said before right, the steel is not evidence. hehe

love your new world order inside your house as long as you can, but when things is starting to go down you will be hideing under your bed.

Death to the new world order.

[Gravy]

So you have NO PROOF that he blamed theme for the conspiracy.... the Update: People Died in WTC 7: This Makes Silverstein and the FDNY Guilty of AT LEAST Manslaughter" that was AFTER you talked to him at ground zero.Wrong again, Malmoe. ALL the quotes I provided from Jones' websites have been online since 2004.

The "manslaughter" accusation was added in September, 2004. I already gave you this link. What are you afraid of, Malmoe? http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.prisonplanet.com/012004watson.html

Alex Jones says the firefighters are lying about what happened at the WTC on 9/11. Fourth time: do you agree with him, Malmoe? Yes or no?

[BenBurch]

I guess he just is not bright enough.


Sorry I tried to not do a stupid pun but could not resist

No problem!

[BenBurch]

Archive.org is absolutely reliable. (Of course, my Illuminati Masters ordered me to say that.) :D

[T.A.M.]

Thumbscanning is a government plot.
http://www.accesspublictv.com/alex1.html


Environmentalism is a government plot.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/interviews/estulin_daniel_05_27_05.htm


AJ: And then they can claim it’s the people because it’s some private group that they appointed. The environmentalist are going to be used to set up neo-serfdom.

DE: Exactly. Needless to say the environmental movement of course is a Rockefeller scam because to have the environmental movement you need a lot of money and only people such as Rockefeller could afford it.

The whole article above is a great laugh.


The National Seatbelt Initiative is a government plot.

Can't find anything on this exact initiative, but he does make this comment

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/police_states_totalitarian_enforcers.htm

In southeastern Michigan, they are constantly running seat belt rackets. Yesterday, they ran one in a community near where I live. Some cop parks on a corner, stands outside of the car with his arms folded on his big gut, looking like Mr. Hard Guy, and calls to others when he sees a person not wearing a seat belt. Three blocks down, there are (6) cop cars sitting there waiting to pounce. Yet somehow, we, as individuals who cannot be denied our free lives, let local police get away with this form of harrassment. Cops harass people endlessly in order to raise revenues so that the city/county can go on a spending spree. Then they hold fundraisers so that we can all buy them bullet-proof vests and their other militarized equipment?


Feminism is a government plot.
once again, not Jones' words, but promoted on his site....
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_makow.html

TAM:)

[T.A.M.]

i just proved one of TAM claims wrong :D

As owner of the prisonplanet and infowars sites, Alex is ultimately responsible for what the site promotes as news, and therefore, IMO, the words of his authors, unless he speaks out in protest, or states otherwise, are as good as his own.

And if you prove one of the claims (they are not my claims, although as I look them up, I think most of them, are correct) wrong, oh well, that is what debate and discussion, and research is all about.

TAM:)

[Malmoesoldier]

Wrong again, Malmoe. ALL the quotes I provided from Jones' websites have been online since 2004.

The "manslaughter" accusation was added in September, 2004. I already gave you this link. What are you afraid of, Malmoe? http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.prisonplanet.com/012004watson.html

Alex Jones says the firefighters are lying about what happened at the WTC on 9/11. Fourth time: do you agree with him, Malmoe? Yes or no?

Yes i agree with him, i am sure some are. The "manslaughter" is an update it wasnt there 2004. no need for you to lie. and even if he forgot that prisonplanet wrote that when he talked to you on ground zero that doesnt make him a lier, and there still are a MAFIA that runs the government and the cause of the collapse of the WTC1-2-7 is still unknown, it was an inside job the facts show it. read pawns in the game. good luck with your propaganda, you need to understand history to understand 9-11. Bye

[afinemadness]

No problem!

Thank you

[T.A.M.]

Tollroads are a government plot.
http://www.archive.org/details/alexjoneswkofjan28th2007
(about 3-4 minutes in....)


Antidepressants are a government plot.
Alex's views can be summarized in his thoughts on "Project MK-ULTRA"


All domestic terror attacks are government plots.


too many sources, too little time...it is a given he thinks this....look it up yourself.


Arnold Schwartzeneggar is part of an Austrian plot to take over America.
http://www.infowars.com/print/nwo/shwartz_section.htm

A whole section dedicated to him...lol

TAM:)

[Gravy]

Yes i agree with him, i am sure some are.Thank you for your honesty. I don't know why you didn't say that to start with.

The "manslaughter" is an update it wasnt there 2004. no need for you to lie.Since I've twice given you the proof that all those statements and videos are from 2004, it is you who is lying.

Or are you claiming that there's a conspiracy by Internet Archive to alter portions of pages from Alex Jones' websites? I suggest that before you pursue such a line of investigation, you first contact Jones and the Watsons about when their accusations appeared.

Here's the link for the third time: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http:/www.prisonplanet.com/012004watson.html

and even if he forgot that prisonplanet wrote that when he talked to you on ground zero that doesnt make him a lier,Alex Jones made videos in 2004 in which HE claimed that the FDNY was in on it. I gave you the links. Do you think those videos, which are promoted on his websites to this day, are fakes, Malmoe? Yes or no?

[T.A.M.]

Masons can commit murder. They make a secret sign to the judges and are immediately set free.
http://www.infowars.com/print/Secret_societies/masonic_murders.htm


Skull & Bones is part of an English plot to take over America.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_skull_and_bones.html


The United Nations is part of a (very slow) plot to take over America.


See the Jones film "America Destroyed by Design".


Children's cartoons are part of a government plot to brainwash us.

See Jones' Film, "9/11: The Road to Tyranny".

If you want me to go through the rest I can, but I think you get the point now.

TAM:)

[CHF]

Gravy,

I had a similar discussion with some twoofers on some Iran-related threads at the Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/) when they brought up "pull it."

For some reason they all get very uptight when asked about the FDNY's involvement.

[BenBurch]

More like, if a Mason commits a murder and makes his lodge affiliation known to the judge, the judge is far more likely to through the book at him out of embarrassment!

[tomwaits]

by the way it isnt alex jones who writes articles on prisonplanet it is mostly other guys.


wow....major doublethink at work.

[asmodean]

Hmm I have actully no idea. But I have tried to debate with the guys over there....damn talk about paranoia.

Indeed. It's really hard to be sure if they're serious, or just pulling ones leg. I mean, in this thread we've gone from:

"OMFGBBQ!!!111oneleventy da gubmint wants to kill 80% of all humanz!"

to

"Well, greenpeace and other environmentalists wants pplz gone!" sprinkled with "Watch dis Jones video!!!11". I mean, every single assertion of Malmoe has been wrong. And yet not a single acknowledgment about this fact. He even tried to peddle the Pianka a few times after being soundly refuted.

Is it live or Memorex?
Parody or the real thing?

Damned if I know

[Plantfoam]

Banned for asking for help in getting Jones to acknowledge his errors and retract his false claims. Wasn't that a horrible thing of me to ask?

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/MarkPostAlexJones.jpg

Heh, I like how calling someone out on past statements and asking for answers is an ad hominem attack.

[Tolls]

Blimey, threads move quickly round there!

Just wanted to pick up on something from back on page 2, from Malmo:


The Global Biodiversity Assessment (GBA) suggest an answer: simply cut the world population by about 80%-or return to a feudal lifestyle (no cars, planes, air conditioners ) Meeting the need for "scientific and technical assessments" mandated in the UN Convention on Biological Diversity,16 the GBA estimates that,

an 'agricultural world' in which most human beings are peasants, should be able to support 5 to 7 billion people.... In contrast, a reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society at the present North American material standard of living would be 1 billion [people]


The Global Biodiversity Assessment is a massive document, consisting of dozens of papers from a large number of scientists. The purpose was to look at human impact on biodiversity. Without knowing which particlaur paper the above snippet comes from we cannot determine what the purpose of the research was behind it. So, unless Malmo can give us the abstract for the paper, at least, I think we can safely call this a "quote out of context".

And just picking up something from TAM:


The Communist Chinese Army has taken over the Massachusetts Port Authority.
- Also seems limited to Logan's earwitness account, so we will leave this one...for now.


I don't know whether Jones claimed this, but I do remember that the Communist takeover of the port was being claimed because a Chinese company had been given the contract to run it. It caused something of a hoo ha at the time amongst the NWO proponents, so I would be surprised if Jones hadn't picked up on it as well.

Here's a news snippet from China (Peoples Daily (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200201/25/eng20020125_89323.shtml)).

[Dave Rogers]

Just the names themselves are wrong... prison planet? Think about it..... are we imprisoned on this planet?

Of course we are. The fact that nobody's ever been to the moon proves it.

Dave

[Belz...]

Yes it is alex jones website, that gives real sources, prisonplanet dont talk about things they cant prove, dont you know that?

EXCELLENT! Then you'll have no problem proving all of it!

[Belz...]

you need to understand history to understand 9-11. Bye

Of course! Why couldn't I see this before ? If there were false-flag operations at some point in history, then 9/11 is an inside job!

Woah, thanks, Mal!

[tomwaits]

Yes it is alex jones website, that gives real sources, prisonplanet dont talk about things they cant prove, dont you know that?


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can't make this stuff up!

[BenBurch]

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can't make this stuff up!

But Malemute just did!