And I sunk my head into my hands and wept

[8den]

On another forum yesterday someone, I kid you not, brought up the "Mossad told the jews not to turn up to work on 911" argument.

I just thought, jesus wept, are we still only here?

What are the worst, most tired out, most throughly debunked pieces of crap, still floating about?

- Operations Northwoods?

- No bodies at Shanksville?

- Small Isolated pockets of fire?

[tomwaits]

- 3 rifle shots in less than 6 seconds
- moon flag couldn't have been blowin in the wind

[Sporanox]

From another thread, it might be the claim that "military exercises were purposely set up to impede 9/11 armed forces response times"...

Gumboot did a number on the initial claim, including addressing why the "is this an exercise?" question was normal for all responses, and a few posts later look who pops up - StickMan2008, asserting the twoof by pointing out that acting military officials asked "is this an exercise."

Absolutely hilarious. It would be more funny, though, if just ONE of them acknowledged their...misperception.

[JAStewart]

Creationism ;)

[pomeroo]

"Pull it."

[T.A.M.]

"pod" theory.

On a side note, I was listening (do not ask me why) to Alex Jones from a bit back, and he delcared that Wolf Blitzer of CNN is a Mossad Agent....I almost crapped my pants with laughter.

TAM:)

[Sabrina]

Slight derail; is anyone aware of a source for that claim of "4,000 Jews were told not to come into work at the WTC on 9/11"? I've been wondering that ever since I heard it and couldn't find the source on my own; has anyone else discovered it?

[Firestone]

Slight derail; is anyone aware of a source for that claim of "4,000 Jews were told not to come into work at the WTC on 9/11"? I've been wondering that ever since I heard it and couldn't find the source on my own; has anyone else discovered it?911myths (http://911myths.com/index.php/4000_Israelis)

[Gord_in_Toronto]

"Pull it."

Did that once. Did not like the smell!
:D

[8den]

"pod" theory.

On a side note, I was listening (do not ask me why) to Alex Jones from a bit back, and he delcared that Wolf Blitzer of CNN is a Mossad Agent....I almost crapped my pants with laughter.

TAM:)

No I have to ask. The incessant Ad breaks are maddening, but nothing compares to the content.

What other weird habits do you have T.A.M.? Holding hot coals? Charging towards brick walls? Drinking two gallons of water and then going on a long drive?

[jezcoe]

Oh I love the multiple light sources on the Moon. Doing Lighting for TV for a living I find that argument the funniest. I also love Alex Jones around Holloween when he starts to claim that thousands of children across America are about to be sacrificed to Samhain in the back of police stations and child protective services offices.

Actually it is the whole weird Satan worshiping aspect of the NWO myth. Is it not enough that they want to enslave us in a neo-feudalist system? Why do they all have to be Luciferian Secret Society pederasts? Hilarious

[GreNME]

The whole "satan worshipping pagan ritual homosexual" stuff with the NWO theories shows the ugly religious fundementalist underbelly of some (mostly AJ's) paranoia out there. I find it quite interesting that some people who absolutely love the Zeitgeist movie are also fans of Jones' brand of paranoia, because they are pretty much incompatible in their most basic forms.

Creationism ;)

Thread winnar.

[T.A.M.]

No I have to ask. The incessant Ad breaks are maddening, but nothing compares to the content.

What other weird habits do you have T.A.M.? Holding hot coals? Charging towards brick walls? Drinking two gallons of water and then going on a long drive?

I was listening to it, so I could bring forward a few new IDIOTIC AJ sound bytes...trust me, there was no shortage.

TAM:)

[Brainster]

No I have to ask. The incessant Ad breaks are maddening, but nothing compares to the content.

What other weird habits do you have T.A.M.? Holding hot coals? Charging towards brick walls? Drinking two gallons of water and then going on a long drive?

The ads on Alex Jones are half the fun! "If you have bread, you'll never have to stand in a breadline!" "It says, 'Worship the beast!' This issue is about worship."

Plus I'll never forget the time I was listening and one of the callers said he was about to get an inheritance of $18 million, because his uncle had died in a plane crash and a kindly bank auditor in Nigeria had contacted him...

[The Doc]

"Faster than free fall". It is simply amazing that this argument still comes up.

[Zlaya]

What are the worst, most tired out, most throughly debunked pieces of crap, still floating about?

- Operations Northwoods?



Operation Northwoods is fake? You mean, it doesn't exist? You mean, the nutcase troofers are making it up? What exactly are you trying to say??

[TheRedWorm]

No, he is saying that Operation Northwoods has nothing to do with 9/11.

[DGM]

No, he is saying that Operation Northwoods has nothing to do with 9/11.
Reading comprehension was never his strong suit.

[Zlaya]

No, he is saying that Operation Northwoods has nothing to do with 9/11.

Interesting. It's a document saying how US Government will stage terror to create a pretext to invade Cuba, including remote controlling planes and blowing them up.

Nothing to do with 9/11?

Man, i love reading this specific message board, this stuff is just funny. Keep 'em commin'.

[TheRedWorm]

Yeah, nothing at all to do with 9/11. But, if you wish to tell me how they are connected, including your hypothesis of what happened on 9/11, I'm sure you can return the favor of a laugh.

[Hellbound]

Interesting. It's a document saying how US Government will stage terror to create a pretext to invade Cuba, including remote controlling planes and blowing them up.

Nothing to do with 9/11?

Man, i love reading this specific message board, this stuff is just funny. Keep 'em commin'.

You left out the part where this was summarily rejected by the government the first time it was officially proposed as an option.

[Drudgewire]

Interesting. It's a document saying how US Government will stage terror to create a pretext to invade Cuba, including remote controlling planes and blowing them up.
Wow, a 40 year-old document which was considered a bad idea even back then that had been made public 4 years before 9/11 proves a big secret cover-up?

If we're really reaching that far, why don't we just connect all the dots and say that the invention of the jet airplane is proof we've been planning this for 70 years now? :rolleyes:

[T.A.M.]

Interesting. It's a document saying how US Government will stage terror to create a pretext to invade Cuba, including remote controlling planes and blowing them up.

Nothing to do with 9/11?

Man, i love reading this specific message board, this stuff is just funny. Keep 'em commin'.

Wow I love reading truther comments. So bereft of substance, so juvenile, so retarded...the comments that is.

Keep it coming.

TAM;)

[Plantfoam]

Last time I checked, the "4,000 Isrealis (Jews) not showing up to work" myth was still posted as a headline on the Infowars archive.

The state department has a really good page debunking this and other claims:
4,000 Jews myth (http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-260933.html)

Yes, straight from the source of "them".

[einsteen]

- No bodies at Shanksville?



That's new for me, were they found ?

[Zlaya]

You left out the part where this was summarily rejected by the government the first time it was officially proposed as an option.

No, it wasn't rejected "by the government". It was rejected by Kennedy.

McNamara was ready to implement this. What do you think bay of pigs was all about? If Kennedy wasn't around, this would have gone through like nothin'...

Regardless, this document shows what elements of our government are capable of.

Next?

[Panhead56]

If we're really reaching that far, why don't we just connect all the dots and say that the invention of the jet airplane is proof we've been planning this for 70 years now? :rolleyes:

I knew it. Damn those dirty english dogs!

[DGM]

No, it wasn't rejected "by the government". It was rejected by Kennedy.

McNamara was ready to implement this. What do you think bay of pigs was all about? If Kennedy wasn't around, this would have gone through like nothin'...

Regardless, this document shows what elements of our government are capable of.

Next?
So you would kill to prove them guilty? You can't deny this because people are capable of murder.

[negativ]

"jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel"

[T.A.M.]

Regardless, this document shows what elements of our government are capable of.


On this we can agree, if the document is legitimate (which at this point, I have no reason to doubt).

TAM:)

[Drudgewire]

That's new for me, were they found ?
OK, so you prefer the "no body parts were found" nonsense to the "body parts were found in Indian Lake" nonsense.

Noted.

[Stellafane]

What are the worst, most tired out, most throughly debunked pieces of crap, still floating about?

Uri Geller and Sylvia Browne.

[TheRedWorm]

But, if you wish to tell me how they (Northwoods and 9/11) are connected, including your hypothesis of what happened on 9/11, I'm sure you can return the favor of a laugh.


Perhaps you missed it Zlaya, could you please answer?

[pomeroo]

Interesting. It's a document saying how US Government will stage terror to create a pretext to invade Cuba, including remote controlling planes and blowing them up.

Nothing to do with 9/11?

Man, i love reading this specific message board, this stuff is just funny. Keep 'em commin'.


Why are you lying? Everybody here knows that Operation Northwoods was nothing more than a crackpot plan that was rejected. Why fantasists cite it remains a mystery.

Show us your evidence that McNamara was "ready to implement it." I think you're making up stuff again.

[PhantomWolf]

That's new for me, were they found ?

yes, they just weren't in one piece

[stateofgrace]

Freefall, space beams , holograms, they pale into insignificant to the worst, the absolute worse that the twoofers throw out............the "official story"

every time I see this I simply sigh. It simply destroys my faith in humanity. It’s like this mythical fable that was spewed out by the USG to the masses and everybody simply buys into it. The last time I saw the commonly held view of events was the one put forward by those that were there, those that were involved and those that were involved in the massive investigation afterwards. There is no " official Story", Bush never got up on a platform and told anybody anything, the USG didn't, it all came from those that were involved.

[Alzke]

The "4000 Jews Myth" is most probably a rumor started to deflect and destract from the true facts of foreknowledge and warnings relayed to certain non-Muslim individuals on 9/11. It is a fact that the Israeli owned messenger service "Odigo" was used on 9/11 prior to the attacks to warn at least 2 people of what was going to happen.

[tomwaits]

The "4000 Jews Myth" is most probably a rumor started to deflect and destract from the true facts of foreknowledge and warnings relayed to certain non-Muslim individuals on 9/11. It is a fact that the Israeli owned messenger service "Odigo" was used on 9/11 prior to the attacks to warn at least 2 people of what was going to happen.

You should make a separate thread for this so it can be argued and won't derail the thread.

[T.A.M.]

Alzke:

Please go to 9/11myths and read on the Odigo CT...please!!!!!!

TAM:)

[PhantomWolf]

The "4000 Jews Myth" is most probably a rumor started to deflect and destract from the true facts of foreknowledge and warnings relayed to certain non-Muslim individuals on 9/11. It is a fact that the Israeli owned messenger service "Odigo" was used on 9/11 prior to the attacks to warn at least 2 people of what was going to happen.

Not exactly (http://www.911myths.com/html/odigo.html)

[MaGZ]

On another forum yesterday someone, I kid you not, brought up the "Mossad told the jews not to turn up to work on 911" argument.


I believe some Jews were given a general warning not the go to lowered Manhattan that morning and that warning came from the Mossad. The Mossad had been monitoring the hijackers and could have issued the warning.

From The Anthrax Mystery: Solved

http://irish-nationalism.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2082


A newspaper article that appeared in Haaretz, an Israeli paper, further indicates prior knowledge of the coming attack. Haaretz reported two Israeli employees of Odigo—an instant messaging company with offices near the World Trade Center and also in Israel—received a warning two hours before the attack. This, roughly, would have been when the hijackers were seen boarding their planes. The Mossad, in order to minimize Jewish losses around the World Trade Center area, could have easily issued the warning via the instant message service. The Washington Post reported, “The Odigo service includes a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out and contact others based on certain interests or demographics.” Those whose interests relate to Israel or Jewish topics could have received the message—even if the persons were unknown to the sender. On that day, the Odigo warning may have saved many Jewish lives.



Odigo says workers were warned of attack
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contrassID=/has%5C

Internet Firm Received Message Predicting Terror Attacks in U.S.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2001/deutschepresseagentur092601.html

Odigo Clarifies Attack Messages

Newsbytes (The Washington Post)
http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2001/wpost092801.html

[MG1962]

The Titanic as an insurance job - comming up to 100 years young and going strong

The London Fire conspiracy lived for 250 years before shuffling off this mortal coil lol

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Stickman's thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=100543) reminded me of this dead horse: black smoke = an oxygen-starved fire only.

[SDC]

I believe some Jews were given a general warning not the go to lowered Manhattan that morning and that warning came from the Mossad. The Mossad had been monitoring the hijackers and could have issued the warning.

From The Anthrax Mystery: Solved

http://irish-nationalism.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2082



Odigo says workers were warned of attack
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contrassID=/has%5C

Internet Firm Received Message Predicting Terror Attacks in U.S.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2001/deutschepresseagentur092601.html

Odigo Clarifies Attack Messages

Newsbytes (The Washington Post)
http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2001/wpost092801.html

What a load of horse pucky. I have it on good authority that the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant network was warned by instant messaging that day.

OK, magzaroo, how was the warning issued? Your Irish quote suggests instant messaging, which wasn't so common in '01. Personally, I always got my Mossad instructions by carrier pigeon, incidentally. I remember some of them well... "Avoid the Lodge Freeway this morning. There is a big backup at the Wyoming curve." Or, "Northwestern Highway southbound is backed up all the way from the Southfield to Telegraph." (These are Detroit references. I lived in Detroit then.)

And for gosh sakes, having one of those !@#$%^& Mossad pigeons landing on my windshield with its )(*&^% message didn't help matters any.

[SDC]

On this we can agree, if the document is legitimate (which at this point, I have no reason to doubt).

TAM:)

This is as maybe. However, Zlaya referred to "our government... are". This is not US syntax. It is UK. (I don't know about Canadian.)

Must be an evil plant.

[Jennie C.]

On another forum yesterday someone, I kid you not, brought up the "Mossad told the jews not to turn up to work on 911" argument.

I just thought, jesus wept, are we still only here?

What are the worst, most tired out, most throughly debunked pieces of crap, still floating about?

- Operations Northwoods?
- No bodies at Shanksville?
- Small Isolated pockets of fire?

Concrete core? Sorry, gang, I think that notion has permanently imprinted in my brain. And I think it's causing damage.... :eek:

[PhantomWolf]

I believe some Jews were given a general warning not the go to lowered Manhattan that morning and that warning came from the Mossad. The Mossad had been monitoring the hijackers and could have issued the warning.

I guess the 300-400 Jews, along with the 3 Israelis that died that day didn't get that message, right?

[T.A.M.]

Must be an evil plant.

or a man eating one....lol

TAM:)

[danielk]

I guess the 300-400 Jews, along with the 3 Israelis that died that day didn't get that message, right?
OK, I'll have a go:
"Of course they had to sacrifice some Jews, otherwise the conspiracy would have been too obvious. This just goes to prove what they are capable of! Ha!"

[Corsair 115]

I'd nominate the "all the 9/11 hijackers entered the U.S. from Canada." There are still some Americans who think this is true, including a few in Congress.

[tomwaits]

I'd nominate the "all the 9/11 hijackers entered the U.S. from Canada." There are still some Americans who think this is true, including a few in Congress.

lol, the ol' "blame canada" routine.

[MG1962]

lol, the ol' "blame canada" routine.

Well think about it 1812 now 2001 - All fits together - Them NWO types dont think we can see the pattern

[CHF]

"No plane found at the Pentagon" always makes me shake my head.

[Sabrina]

911myths (http://911myths.com/index.php/4000_Israelis)

Thanks.

Hmmm, that sort of gives me a bit more ammunition for my hypothesis about a vast denial and deception campaign being carried out that could have potentially spawned the truth movement... not much, might you, but some.

[tomwaits]

Well think about it 1812 now 2001 - All fits together - Them NWO types dont think we can see the pattern

i'm already ahead of you... (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3218267#post3218267)

[Redtail]

The one that got me into this, the "A 50 ton press was thrown across the room!!!!" Still see it from time to time.

[rwguinn]

No, it wasn't rejected "by the government". It was rejected by Kennedy.

McNamara was ready to implement this. What do you think bay of pigs was all about? If Kennedy wasn't around, this would have gone through like nothin'...

Regardless, this document shows what elements of our government are capable of.

Next?
Stundied!
Not the Government, the President rejected it!
Whooo-boy...

[Plantfoam]

Stundied!
Not the Government, the President rejected it!
Whooo-boy...

Yeah, if Kennedy wasn't around, then it would have gone through. I guess he really is still around. See, the whole assassination conspiracy was made up to be a smokescreen; there never really was an assassination! I win the internet!

[cludgie]

Take your pick from....

- WTC was a financial white elephant and losing money hand over fist

- No steel-framed building has ever collapsed through fire

- Pentagon is the most heavily defended building on earth and has automatic missile defences

- The alledged hijackers are all still alive and well

And thats to name but 4 of the many I see rolled out again and again.

And thinking on, if I see the idiotic bit of comprehension that is the "PNAC document called for a 'New Pearl Harbour'" claim one more time I think i'm going to scream.

[ref]

Some of the most tiresome recyclings in no particular order:

Pull it
Hijackers alive and well
WTC 7 was not even hit by a plane
People heard explosions = bombs
Hanjour was a bad pilot
First time in history of high-rise buildings
$100.000 wired
Phone calls are fake
Molten steel

[Firestone]

All of the above, of course.

But it is the MO of most truthers that makes me weep (figuratively at least).
It was nicely illustrated by MaGZ in this very thread.
Nevermind how many times the "Odigo-warning" has been shown to be a worthless argument, it will come back. Same with the "dancing Israelis", Marvin Bush, Northwoods, and many other non-arguments.

I think that "former Italian president Cossiga says 9/11 was an inside job" is the latest of these non-arguments, and we will hear it again and again for many years to come. :cry1

[T.A.M.]

Its like they want to keep believing in Santa Claus, even after they have caught their parents putting gifts under the tree on Xmas Eve.

"Well I still believe in him, and thats my right, so there!"

Oh boy.

TAM:)

[cludgie]

All of the above, of course.

But it is the MO of most truthers that makes me weep (figuratively at least).
It was nicely illustrated by MaGZ in this very thread.
Nevermind how many times the "Odigo-warning" has been shown to be a worthless argument, it will come back. Same with the "dancing Israelis", Marvin Bush, Northwoods, and many other non-arguments.


Otherwise known as the concept of "throw enough manure and some of it might stick".


I think that "former Italian president Cossiga says 9/11 was an inside job" is the latest of these non-arguments, and we will hear it again and again for many years to come. :cry1


Mind you, didn't the Venezuelan chappy (Chavez) make similar claims with similar total lack of substance? Hell, he doesn't even say how they did it, let alone offer any evidence that they did. Its no more worthy than all the rent-a-quotes that sites like 911patriots trumpet out, all saying 'I used to make the tea at a USAF base 50 years ago and its obvious that the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile'.

[Mr.Herbert]

2 Pages and not one mention of the most pathetic of ALL 911 Conspiracies.....

The LyteTripp.Jacktripper.CraigRanke.Peterpan......

FLYOVER!!!!!!!

[Drudgewire]

I guess the 300-400 Jews, along with the 3 Israelis that died that day didn't get that message, right?
To be honest, that myth is was the very final straw in my belief in CTs, because I'd been real big into the Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy theories and always heard the EXACT same thing about ATF agents.

That's when it finally sank in that every new conspiracy theory in some way just rehashes old horse[rule10].

[Axiom_Blade]

I'd nominate the "all the 9/11 hijackers entered the U.S. from Canada." There are still some Americans who think this is true, including a few in Congress.

I always wondered why the US was so keen on building a fence on the Mexican border, but not on the Canadian border. Maybe they think the lure of party-crazy TIjuana will be too much for repressed Muslims to resist?

[Axiom_Blade]

Otherwise known as the concept of "throw enough manure and some of it might stick".


Or, as the deniers call it, "mountains of evidence"!

[8den]

http://irish-nationalism.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2082



Great thanks for linking to an Irish Neo Nazi site. Hilariously a site associated with that site published my wife's name and address a number of years ago.

Seems they didn't like her work with anti fascist groups and invited members to go find her.

So you can see how little respect I have for that link, and why you are going on ignore. You despicable little man.

[NoZed Avenger]

I always got my Mossad instructions by carrier pigeon, incidentally. I remember some of them well... "Avoid the Lodge Freeway this morning. There is a big backup at the Wyoming curve." Or, "Northwestern Highway southbound is backed up all the way from the Southfield to Telegraph."

OMG. I think the Mossad have taken over my morning AM radio station!!!111!!1111eleventy!!!11!111

[David Wong]

The mission trillions from the defense department came up again the other day. Of all these, that's the one that impresses me because it makes so little sense as to be in negative territory.

One awkwardly worded sentence pulled out of one speech, something that can do easily be verified if they make the effort...

[SDC]

OMG. I think the Mossad have taken over my morning AM radio station!!!111!!1111eleventy!!!11!111

Say what you like about the Mossad, but I think all Jews will agree that their traffic reports are the best. I mean, have you ever seen a Jew caught in a traffic jam? Or stuck on the NY subway or a commuter train?

(I think I've started a new conspiracy theory. I'm proud, yet humble. I'd like to thank all those who made this moment necessary.)

[dudalb]

MaGZ quoting from a Neo Nazi Site.
Why am I not surprised in the least?
The guy is beneath contempt.


The JFK Three Shots Is Six Second With A Bolt Action Rifle is impossible is the one the gets to me. From hands on experience I can say that is no great feat.

[tomwaits]

The JFK Three Shots Is Six Second With A Bolt Action Rifle is impossible is the one the gets to me. From hands on experience I can say that is no great feat.


The funniest part is in the movie JFK, where they state that it is impossible to fire off 3 shots in less than 6 seconds...then "Lou" actually does it! He shoots 3 shots under 6 seconds, but "Garrison" tells him it was "Between six and seven seconds."

Of course, none of this matters because the Warren Commission had said the shots went off in "a minimum time of 7.1 to 7.9 seconds".

[Panhead56]

CT: "They did it!"
ME: Who they?
CT: "You know, THEY, the NWO!"
ME: No, I dont' know. Who are they?
CT: "I just said it, They!!!"
ME: Can you give me some names? Please?
CT: "They! They did it, the Government!"
ME: Who in the Government did it?
CT: "They! They! They!"

ad infinitum.

I never get a chance to ask my next question: How do you know he/she did it, if it were supposed to be a secret conspiracy?

[Panhead56]

CT: "They did it!"
ME: Who they?
CT: "You know, THEY, the NWO!"
ME: No, I dont' know. Who are they?
CT: "I just said it, They!!!"
ME: Can you give me some names? Please?
CT: "They! They did it, the Government!"
ME: Who in the Government did it?
CT: "They! They! They!"

ad infinitum.

I never get a chance to ask my next question: How do you know he/she did it, if it were supposed to be a secret conspiracy?

Oops. There was a active thread about "they" just below this thread. Talk about sloppy research.

[cludgie]

I've just seen a belter on another forum. Some numpty produces two pictures of the plane about to strike taken from a few blocks away and claims that (assuming a shutter speed of 1/1000th of a second) that the plane shouldn't appear in sharp focus as in that time its moved a whole (gasps) 9 inches.

Saying that, this same numpty believes in most of what is claimed in the hilarious 'September Clues' so hes not the sharpest tool.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Saying that, this same numpty believes in most of what is claimed in the hilarious 'September Clues' so hes not the sharpest tool.


But a tool nonetheless, apparently...

[jhunter1163]

The funniest part is in the movie JFK, where they state that it is impossible to fire off 3 shots in less than 6 seconds...then "Lou" actually does it! He shoots 3 shots under 6 seconds, but "Garrison" tells him it was "Between six and seven seconds."

Of course, none of this matters because the Warren Commission had said the shots went off in "a minimum time of 7.1 to 7.9 seconds".

This one always makes me giggle. Oswald only had to cycle the weapon TWICE. He had all damn DAY to load the first bullet.

[gumboot]

The "missile pod" CT was the first one I was ever exposed to, and I think it's still one of my favourites. There's just really something special about the sort of person who would believe you need to fire a missile into a building a fraction of a second before impact to ensure a 100 tonne airliner traveling at 500 MPH busts through the 14 inch hollow steel exterior columns.

-Gumboot

[portlandatheist]

I'm adding MaGZ to my ignore. I just don't have the stomach for his nonsense and hatred.

[LashL]

The "missile pod" CT was the first one I was ever exposed to, and I think it's still one of my favourites. There's just really something special about the sort of person who would believe you need to fire a missile into a building a fraction of a second before impact to ensure a 100 tonne airliner traveling at 500 MPH busts through the 14 inch hollow steel exterior columns.

-Gumboot


If by "special", you mean "completely and utterly batcrap crazy", then yes, I agree. ;)

[gumboot]

If by "special", you mean "completely and utterly batcrap crazy", then yes, I agree. ;)

Yes. Yes I do.

:D

-Gumboot

[eromitlab]

A few of my oft-recycled 9/11 tr00th favourites...

19 ay-rabs in a cave made NORAD stand down
The "alleged" hijackers are alive
9/11 is the first instance of steel frame buildings collapsing due to fire
Building 7 was never hit by a plane, yet it collapsed
Building 7 only had small fires on two floors
Building 7 collapsed symmetrically, into its own footprint
Larry said pull it
Any number of heat-of-the-moment 911 calls/TV interviews where the word "bomb" is mentioned being taken as evidence that there was a bomb

[Wildy]

Concrete core? Sorry, gang, I think that notion has permanently imprinted in my brain. And I think it's causing damage.... :eek:

That one eats away slowly at your brain. I can only thank the other CTs in the myspace thread that post there for keeping me sane with better questions.


By the way, since I can't be bothered reading the thread, did you get around to arguing that the C4 would have degraded by that time?

[Jennie C.]

That one eats away slowly at your brain. I can only thank the other CTs in the myspace thread that post there for keeping me sane with better questions.


By the way, since I can't be bothered reading the thread, did you get around to arguing that the C4 would have degraded by that time?

Many, many, MANY times. You see, the concrete would have protected it, being such a good safe environment for C-4.

i kid you not.

[Wildy]

Hmmm... the group of debunkers on Myspace just managed to move the discussion there for a few days. Now in his spam posts he is trying to claim that "at least 10 years" = 30.