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Crazy Chainsaw
7th December 2007, 07:58 AM
I just thought that some here would like to see this out of curiosity. It give a good idea of the range of fires that will produce black smoke.

http://reaflow.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de/Diss/nayde.pdf

Look at the graphs of soot formation and tell me what you see, on pages 126-127 in relationship to temperature.

Unsecured Coins
7th December 2007, 08:03 AM
I'll read it in a sec, but I must say that because of your experiments, I find it best to read your posts in a kevlar suit and crash helmet, cowering behind the sofa and putting a "do not try this at home EVER" sign on the computer.

Crazy Chainsaw
7th December 2007, 08:55 AM
I'll read it in a sec, but I must say that because of your experiments, I find it best to read your posts in a kevlar suit and crash helmet, cowering behind the sofa and putting a "do not try this at home EVER" sign on the computer.


IT is not one of mine, it does point out though that a fuel rich fire produces more soot at higher temperatures, rather than lower temperatures until it reaches a little over 2000K.

That indicates the twin towers were a high temperature fuel rich fire because of all the black soot formation.
Or in other words it was a big hot fire with black smoke.
Just another nail in the coffin of the claim of dying fires.
Of course that is my opinion of what the paper relates to, on those pages I would like the opinion of others though.
I must admit though I was researching shock wave compression of carbons causing combustion to figure out the results of an experiment I was doing, that could have created micro spheres as well as very high temperature white hot reactions in the collapses.
However I have postponed any more work on that for now, basically because I am short on one of the resource most needed to complete the study, time.
IT is after all the Christmas rush, have to Finnish the 100 Santa bears I have orders for.