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BigAl
8th December 2007, 08:22 AM
Would the air testing that EPA did have detected the products of man-made explosives, thermate or thermite if used in large quantities?

Just a thought.

Alferd_Packer
8th December 2007, 08:31 AM
No, the products of man-made explosives, thermate or thermite would have been masked by the chemtrails.

BenBurch
8th December 2007, 08:31 AM
No.

Thermite leaves no vapors, and any dust from it would have been so heavy as to not go far (which is another reason that the fraudulent "scientist" Steven Jones has his head in a very dark place.) Plus thermite tends not to make very much dust at all; most of it becomes part of the molten mass or it would not be a useful compound.

And explosives? Nitrates would have been all though that site, explosives or not, and even had this been a bombing the signature would probably be indistinguishable from the background here.

Apollo20
8th December 2007, 12:56 PM
BigAl:

Well, I wouldn't rule it out as quickly as BenBurch. I have worked with the remarkable TAGA system which uses APCI (Atmospheric Pressure Chemical Ionization) to detect airborne species at very low concentrations. It has been used to detect ppt (parts per trillion) levels of ethylene glycol dinitrate, derived from dynamite for example. I believe the EPA had a TAGA system in NYC at some point after 9/11. There are many other highly sensitive techniques such as LC/MS, FTIR, Laser Raman, etc, that could have been used to look at solid, liquid or gaseous samples collected at or near GZ. However, I doubt that explosive residues were specifically targeted - obviously the main interest of the EPA was air toxics and pollutants.

leftysergeant
9th December 2007, 04:48 AM
Don't forget the enormous supply of ammunition at the ranges in WTC 6. I have seen it described as "millions of rounds." Wouldn't nitrocelluslose (smokeless powder) share some of the same chemical signatures with tnt or RDX?

LastChild
9th December 2007, 07:33 AM
The same EPA testing that claimed the air was safe to breathe?

DGM
9th December 2007, 07:40 AM
The same EPA testing that claimed the air was safe to breathe?
Yes, Outside of ground zero. What's your point?

LastChild
9th December 2007, 10:49 AM
Yes, Outside of ground zero. What's your point?

My point is if they lied about the safety of the air why would they tell the truth about anything else even if they did detect it?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/08/earlyshow/main1985804.shtml

Insider: EPA Lied About WTC Air
Scientist Says It Covered Up Truth In Saying Ground Zero Air Was Safe

(CBS) A scientist for the Environmental Protection Agency is charging that the agency lied when it claimed the air at ground zero was safe to breathe in the weeks after the 9/11 attacks.

BenBurch
9th December 2007, 11:01 AM
A20; You might be able to detect it, but you cannot separate it from the other chemicals at the scene (including explosives from WTC6) that are the same chemicals as explosive combustion products. THAT is the problem; The site was self-contaminating.

And in any case there is less than zero reason to expect that there were any bombs.

BenBurch
9th December 2007, 11:58 AM
LC, but we caught them in that lie. Had that lie included evidence of a bomb we also would have caught that at the same time.

Make no mistake, the Bushistas lie twice every morning before breakfast, but the cause of 9/11 was not one of the things they lied about (or could have lied about.)