New Partial Footage of WTC 7 Collapse

[boloboffin]

Yes, this is footage I've never seen before, and you haven't either, I expect. The angle is the most from the west I've ever seen.

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Someone at DU brought this back triumphantly, thinking that she has proven me wrong when I say that the building slumped to the south when it fell.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g171/boloboffin2/911/WTC7lean.jpg

Obviously the building is slumping to the south there. She's under the impression that the building is falling in towards the core there -- south to north, north to south, and we only see the north side of this.

However, her video completely show this to be false. The building doesn't fold inward, but just goes the direction that it goes in.

The poster back at DU doesn't realize what she's done. Either the building fell to this point after going behind the other buildings (something it quickly does), or the building was already slumping this much when the final part of the collapse started.

She does now, of course, because I've pointed it out, and she's madly dancing and weaving to avoid answering the dilemma she's now in. Oh, yes, the "just asking questions" made a quick appearance.

Myself, I don't care. Either horn supports the actual chain of events. Either the building was so badly damaged that it was leaning, or the building fell that direction after going behind the building. I even like the first choice there better. I've always wanted documentation of the lean in building 7.

So, what do you folks think?

[Good Lt]

I think another Troofer just debunked herself.

[Gravy]

I haven't seen that footage before. Doesn't show the beginning of the collapse though.

I think it's perfectly fair to say that the building mostly folded in on itself. That's evident from the position of most of the exterior walls after collapse. If the failure occurred in the center, as the engineers hypothesize, how else should the building have fallen?

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/879046b386eac9d95.jpg

[boloboffin]

I haven't seen that footage before. Doesn't show the beginning of the collapse though.

I think it's perfectly fair to say that the building mostly folded in on itself. That's evident from the position of most of the exterior walls after collapse. If the failure occurred in the center, as the engineers hypothesize, how else should the building have fallen?

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/879046b386eac9d95.jpg

No, it doesn't show the beginning of the collapse, and I've pointed that out as well.

My understanding of the final horizontal part of the collapse is that the building crushed up after leaning a bit to the south. Did the south actually fold into the building? I thought it fell the other direction -- that if the building's structure had been strong enough (and it was nowhere near that), we would have seen the building tip over.

Maybe we're talking at cross purposes.

[Mancman]

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[Mangoose]

Unfortunately, a building blocks most of the building from the west view, so it is not of much use to show what is going on at the lower levels.