UN/NWO plan to reduce the world’s population by 80%

[Malmoesoldier]

UN Conference on Human Settlements (Habitat I) in 1976, "Land...cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals.... Private land ownership is...a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice; if unchecked, it may become a major obstacle in the planning and implementation of development schemes.... Public control of land use is therefore indispensable...."

They State that the human population has exceeded earth's biosphere capacity and set the parameters for recovery: It is estimated that an 'agricultural world' in which most human beings are peasants should be able to support 5 to 7 billion people....In contrast, a reasonable estimate for an industrialised world society at the present north American material standard of living would be 1 billion."

There is no discussion in the GBA of how 2/3 of the earth's human population might be eliminated, but it does give some clues. Agricultural practices are sharply condemned, Overwhelming evidence leads to the conclusion that modern commercial agriculture has had a direct negative impact on biodiversity at all levels.... Agriculture may be one of the most important causes of pollution, by the production of sediments, by the generation of chemical wastes, or by the use of pesticides."

Never mind that US agricultural practices have reduced these impacts to all time lows. The use of fertilizers would be sharply reduced if the GBA recommendations were implemented, in spite of the realization "that fertilisers have played an essential part in producing the world's harvests is undisputed. It is estimated that if the use of fertilisers ceased, the world's harvests would be cut almost in half." Although the GBA does not say it, cutting the world's food production in half would certainly produce massive starvation and pestilence and cut human population by at least half.

For more info go to: http://www.discerningtoday.org/world_govn_outline.htm#N_26_

The United Nations doesn’t just talk about killing people in the name of saving the earth, they’ve actually put their plans into action. The Burmese army killed two thousand people and drove thirty thousand from their homes to make way for a United Nations biosphere sanctuary (source: London Guardian, March 23, 1997).


NSSM 200.

The 1974 NSSM 200 document cites “Injectable contraceptives for women” as a possible method of population reduction and control. Depopulation, as stated in the document, should be pursued because it would be in the “…economic interests of the United States.” “Wherever a lessening of population pressures… can increase the prospects for such stability, population policy becomes relevant to resource supplies and to the economic interests of the United States.”

NSSM 200 is a 1974 secret report prepared for the outgoing U.S. President Richard Nixon which discussing ways to drastically reduce world’s population base. The underlying premise of the report is that Planet Earth’s natural resources could only sustain 3 billion people. The report was signed by Henry Kissinger.

Point 29 of the report speaks volumes about the oligarchy’s true intentions. The plan was to reduce the world’s population by 500 million towards the year 2000 (from 1974) and by 3 billion by the year 2050.

Food as a weapon.

“Mandatory programs may be needed and we should be considering these possibilities now,” “Would food be considered an instrument of national power? ... Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?”

"Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries." - Henry Kissinger

http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2.html
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_peace/kiss_nssm_jb_1995.html

And from declassified government documents in Australia, we learn that world-famous microbiologists, Nobel Prize winners, were seriously contemplating and planning to release biological weapons to reduce an overpopulated world (The Age, March 10, 2002, “Burnet’s solution: The plan to poison SE Asia”). The revelation is contained in top-secret files declassified by the National Archive of Australia. http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/03/09/1015365752044.html

In 2004 the publication World Watch published an article titled, "Global Population Reduction: Confronting the Inevitable," by Ken Smail, a professor in the Anthropology department of Kenyon College in Ohio. In this article, Smail proposes that the earth's carrying capacity will reach, or has reached already, its limit. In what Smail calls a modern day "Malthusian dilemma", he cites measures to merely slow population growth as being inefficient, stating that,

"Looking past the near-term concerns that have plagued population policy at the political level, it is increasingly apparent that the long-term sustainability of civilization will require not just a leveling-off of human numbers as projected over the coming half-century, but a colossal reduction in both population and consumption."

Smail says that a large scale global population reduction is inevitable, but that there are two possible ways for this to happen,

"That there will be a large-scale reduction in global human numbers over the next two or three centuries appears to be inevitable. The primary issue seems to be whether this process will be under conscious human control and (hopefully) relatively benign, or whether it will turn out to be unpredictably chaotic and (perhaps) catastrophic."

http://oldthinkernews.com/documents/global%20population%20reduction%20-%20confronting%20the%20inevitable.pdf


"The first task is population control at home. How do we go about it? Many of my colleagues feel that some sort of compulsory birth regulation would be necessary to achieve such control. One plan often mentioned involves the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired population size." - Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb, p.130-131

UNICEF Nigerian Polio Vaccine Contaminated with Sterilizing Agents Scientist Finds: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/mar/04031101.html

U.N. Complicit in Forced Sterilizations: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73780,00.html

Virginia governor apologizes for eugenics law: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/05/02/virginia-eugenics.htm


"A total of 3,461 adverse reactions, including eight deaths, were reported to the government through the VAERS system since the FDA approved the drug: http://www.crosswalk.com/news/11561185/

"More than 17 girls a week have been experiencing adverse reactions such as seizures and numbness after taking cervical cancer vaccine Gardasil since it became widely distributed in April. But the Department of Health and Ageing, while revealing the number of reactions, is refusing to release the details of them - despite growing controversy overseas, including links to at least seven deaths: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22860011-421,00.html

500 rushed to hospital after vaccination: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C07%5C01%5Cstory_1-7-2007_pg7_2

governments have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations without their knowledge (which has resulted in many deaths) in order to advance the progress of eugenics. including the infamous Ringworm Children, who were used as guinea pigs and subjected to lethal doses of radiation by Israeli health officials, killing 6,000 and leaving the rest with lifelong debilitating illnesses.

http://web.israelinsider.com/views/3998.htm

For more info

read: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/biowar.html

Watch: http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=1070329053600562261&autoplay=1


Quotes.

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" -Maurice Strong (U.N. environmental leader)

"To achieve One World Government it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, their loyalty to family traditions and national identification." -Brock Chisholm, while director of UN World Health Organization

“It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegance.”
President George Herbert Walker Bush Addressing the General Assembly of the United Nations, February 1, 1992

"Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective - a New World Order - can emerge... We are now in sight of a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders." - George Bush (September, 1990)

“The United Nations is the greatest fraud in history. It's purpose is to destroy the United States.” John E. Rankin, a U.S. Congressman from 1923-1953

"The UN provides cover almost the same way the Taliban does. It serves as the laboratory, the linchpin for legitimizing incendiary rhetoric (against the West in general and America in particular)."
- Harvey Kushner, Long Island State University Professor of Criminology (terrorism analyst)

"The total world population should be not more than 2 billion, rather than the current 5.6 billion." --Cornell University professor David Pimentel, speaking at the American Association for the Advancement of Science, 1994

There was very strong agreement that religious institutions have to take primary responsibility for the population explosion. We must speak far more clearly about sexuality, about contraception, about abortion, about the values that control the population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. cut the population by 90 percent and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.” -Dr. Sam Keen, philosopher, at the 'State of the World Forum', sponsored by the Gorbachev Foundation and attended by many worldleaders, San Francisco, 1995, as quoted by William Jasper in 'Global Gorby', The New American, Oct. 30, 1995

"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history." -David Rockefeller 1973 (NY Times 8-10-73)

"One-fourth of humanity must be eliminated from the social body. We are in charge of God's selection process for planet earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death." - Psychologist Barbara Marx Hubbard - member and futurist/strategist of Task Force Delta; a United States Army think tank

UNESCO Courier, Jacques-Yves Cousteau, the famous Emmy award winning film producer and ambassador for the environmental movement, said in 1991,

"It’s terrible to have to say this. World population must be stabilized and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day."

Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon Magazine said, "A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal," and is using his purported $1Billion "gift" to the UN to further global depopulation programs.

"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." -Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund - quoted in "Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?," Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December '95

In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."
Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988.

"Eugenic goals are most likely to be attained under another name than eugenics." - Frederick Osborn


UN scandals.

Child sex book given out at U.N. summit: http://web.archive.org/web/20020603130055/http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020510-25256488.htm

UN chief resigns over sexual harassment row: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/02/21/wlubb21.xml

UN shame over sex scandal: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article2132576.ece

Teenagers used for sex by UN in Bosnia: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/04/25/wbos25.xml

U.N. adds new cases of sex abuse: http://web.archive.org/web/20021016094143/http://www.washtimes.com/world/20021014-85616521.htm

UN troops accused of 'systematic' rape in Sierra Leone: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/01/17/wleon17.xml

American firm in Bosnia sex trade row poised to win MoD contract: http://www.guardian.co.uk/military/story/0,,850107,00.html

Representative Cynthia McKinney Grills Rumsfeld On Dyncorp Sex Rings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iR_WDbwmh4

Nato force 'feeds Kosovo sex trade: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Kosovo/Story/0,2763,1211248,00.html

UN 'ignored' abuse at Kosovo mental homes: http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,770856,00.html

UN troops traded guns for gold with militias: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article2578497.ece

US oilman jailed over UN scandal: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7116113.stm

Much more here: http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_elite_sex_ring.html

[DGM]

Malmoe:

Still refuse to read the NSSM 200 document for yourself?

Or is it that you don't understand the words you read?

[jhunter1163]

Who's got that pic of the chimp with the poo and the thought-bubble saying "fling?"

[WildCat]

Don't worry Malmoesoldier, we have a nice movie to show you before we put you to sleep.

[Horatius]

12. While GNP increased per annum at an average rate of 5 percent in LDCs over the last decade, the population increase of 2.5 percent reduced the average annual per capita growth rate to only 2.5 percent. In many heavily populated areas this rate was 2 percent or less. In the LDCs hardest hit by the oil crisis, with an aggregate population of 800 million, GNP increases may be reduced to less than 1 percent per capita per year for the remainder of the 1970's. For the poorest half of the populations of these countries, with average incomes of less than $100, the prospect is for no growth or retrogression for this period.

13. If significant progress can be made in slowing population growth, the positive impact on growth of GNP and per capita income will be significant. Moreover, economic and social progress will probably contribute further to the decline in fertility rates.

14. High birth rates appear to stem primarily from:

a. inadequate information about and availability of means of fertility control;

b. inadequate motivation for reduced numbers of children combined with motivation for many children resulting from still high infant and child mortality and need for support in old age; and

c. the slowness of change in family preferences in response to changes in environment.

15. The universal objective of increasing the world's standard of living dictates that economic growth outpace population growth. In many high population growth areas of the world, the largest proportion of GNP is consumed, with only a small amount saved. Thus, a small proportion of GNP is available for investment -- the "engine" of economic growth. Most experts agree that, with fairly constant costs per acceptor, expenditures on effective family planning services are generally one of the most cost effective investments for an LDC country seeking to improve overall welfare and per capita economic growth. We cannot wait for overall modernization and development to produce lower fertility rates naturally since this will undoubtedly take many decades in most developing countries, during which time rapid population growth will tend to slow development and widen even more the gap between rich and poor.



Those utter bastards! How dare they conspire to increase the standard of living of poor people in undeveloped countries! String 'em up!




16. The interrelationships between development and population growth are complex and not wholly understood. Certain aspects of economic development and modernization appear to be more directly related to lower birth rates than others. Thus certain development programs may bring a faster demographic transition to lower fertility rates than other aspects of development. The World Population Plan of Action adopted at the World Population Conference recommends that countries working to affect fertility levels should give priority to development programs and health and education strategies which have a decisive effect on fertility. International cooperation should give priority to assisting such national efforts. These programs include: (a) improved health care and nutrition to reduce child mortality, (b) education and improved social status for women; (c) increased female employment; (d) improved old-age security; and (e) assistance for the rural poor, who generally have the highest fertility, with actions to redistribute income and resources including providing privately owned farms. However, one cannot proceed simply from identification of relationships to specific large-scale operational programs. For example, we do not yet know of cost-effective ways to encourage increased female employment, particularly if we are concerned about not adding to male unemployment. We do not yet know what specific packages of programs will be most cost effective in many situations.


My God! The Evil! Next, they'll be telling us women shouldn't be barefoot and pregnant all the time! Where's my gun?



[/sarcasm, just in case]


Now, when you said:

Food as a weapon.


“Mandatory programs may be needed and we should be considering these possibilities now,” “Would food be considered an instrument of national power? ... Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?”



were you quoting from NSSM 200? Because that text doesn't seem to appear in the version you linked to at:

http://www.population-security.org/11-CH3.html#summary

In fact, the only mention of mandatory programs I could find was this:



37. There is an alternate view which holds that a growing number of experts believe that the population situation is already more serious and less amenable to solution through voluntary measures than is generally accepted. It holds that, to prevent even more widespread food shortage and other demographic catastrophes than are generally anticipated, even stronger measures are required and some fundamental, very difficult moral issues need to be addressed. These include, for example, our own consumption patterns, mandatory programs, tight control of our food resources. In view of the seriousness of these issues, explicit consideration of them should begin in the Executive Branch, the Congress and the U.N. soon. (See the end of Section I for this viewpoint.)


...which clearly states that this is an alternate view, and even emphasizes that characterization.


Do I really need to go through the rest of this to point out every distortion?

[Lopakhin]

I think that Kissinger quote is made up too, I tried to search for it not long ago when someone else quoted it to me.

[AMTMAN]

Is this thread a joke?

[DGM]

Do I really need to go through the rest of this to point out every distortion?

No, It's well known that he (?) does not actually read the articles he quotes from.

This is a person that claims Alex Jones would never say things that are not true.

I do however admire the fact that you went as far as you did. More effort than most would give his nonsense..

[Loss Leader]

I only skimmed the first post but here's what I got:

1. The NWO is out to gt us.
2. The NWO is all powerful.
3. The NWO is secretive.
4. The NWO has gone ahead and told us their plan decades in advance for ... no logical reason.
5. Despite the power to move straight ahead with its plans, the NWO moves obliquely through many different methods that appear unrelated, affect a relative few people and are frequently accidental.
6. The NWO never says anything by accident, just floats an idea or considers and then discards a concept. Everything they say is permanent NWO policy.

Has the OP read The Omnivore's Dilemma or any other book that talks about how our methods of food production are actually destroying our ability to produce food in the long run? Is the poster familiar with the tremendous amount of petrolium it takes to produce artificial fertilizer or the serious harm that farming in monoculture does to the soil as well as the nutritive value of the food on which it's grown. Is the OP familiar with the fact that the Sahara desert is largely the result of prehistoric overfarming of the African continent?

Is the OP familiar with the concept of free speech in that a vigerous debate in which many ideas are bandied about is necessary for maximum creativity and innovation? Is the OP familiar with the concept of brainstorming in which all manner of ideas are solicited and only then are they weighed for usefullness?

Is the OP familiar with how the world works at all?

[funk de fino]

"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." -Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund - quoted in "Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?," Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December '95


So not only is he a liar he repeats the lies when they have already been pointed out to him. The above quote is not correct and in fact is a magled version of the one he posted next to it.

Still no proof of where the govt says it will kill 80% of the world population yet then eh?

This should be deleted or merged with his other travesty of a thread

[westprog]

Is this thread a joke?

Obviously not. If 17 girls a week are experiencing numbness from cervical cancer vaccine, that can only be explained in the context of a masterplan to reduce the world's population by 80%.

[Horatius]

I do however admire the fact that you went as far as you did. More effort than most would give his nonsense..



Thanks! I've been noticing a lot of these "Quote dozens of articles" twoofers seem to think we "can't debunk them" because we don't go through all the articles point-by-point, so I've been trying to do a bit of that, just to see if they'll shut up*. However, it's frustrating, as pretty much every link I've followed ends up being completely misrepresented by the twoofer**.

So I've decided to "sample" their arguments, and debunk a bit of them. I figure if 2 or 3 randomly selected bits can be shown to be false or misleading, we can safely assume the rest is of similar quality. So far I've found no such samples that could be considered to say what the twoofers alleges they say, so I think that's a valid assumption.








*Yes, yes, I know.


**Yes, yes, I know.

[PixyMisa]

Kind of like doing a biopsy. Snip out a representative sample and test that.

[PixyMisa]

Also, if the UNNWO have been working for over thirty years to eliminate 80% of the world population, I think we can conclude that they're not very good at it.

[Malmoesoldier]

Malmoe:

Still refuse to read the NSSM 200 document for yourself?

Or is it that you don't understand the words you read?

The question is if YOU understand the words you read?. NSSM 200 talks about sterilizing and using food as a weapon. I didnt expect you to understand simple facts [edit].

Still no proof of where the govt says it will kill 80% of the world population yet then eh?

So you didnt read the UN Conference on Human Settlements (Habitat I) in 1976?. I feel sorry for you that you have such a hard time understanding text, please dont post before you understand what the facts say. ask somebody to read it for you, if you cant read.

Please keep the tone civil

[DGM]

The question is if YOU understand the words you read?. NSSM 200 talks about sterilizing and using food as a weapon. I didnt expect you to understand simple facts since i have seen your ignorance many times before.



So you didnt read the UN Conference on Human Settlements (Habitat I) in 1976?. I feel sorry for you that you have such a hard time understanding text, please dont post before you understand what the facts say. ask somebody to read it for you, if you cant read.
Are you still having trouble putting articles into context? You will find it easier to do if you READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE*.

*Maybe you should ask Alex if it's OK before you do so.*

[Horatius]

The question is if YOU understand the words you read?. NSSM 200 talks about sterilizing and using food as a weapon. I didnt expect you to understand simple facts since i have seen your ignorance many times before.





And as I said before, please link us to that passage, as I haven't been able to find it in the links that you provided.

If you've actually read and understood this document for yourself, this should be trivially easy.

Refusal to provide a link will be considered an admission that such a passage does not exist.

[Malmoesoldier]

Are you still having trouble putting articles into context? You will find it easier to do if you READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE*.

*Maybe you should ask Alex if it's OK before you do so.*

They ARE in context, the facts speaks for themself.

DGM, do you agree with UN? that the population of the world should be 1 billion.

[JimBenArm]

They ARE in context, the facts speaks for themself.

DGM, do you agree with UN? that the population of the world should be 1 billion.
It doesn't matter, since we'll be in the 20%. Perks of the job, don't you know.

[DGM]

They ARE in context, the facts speaks for themself.

DGM, do you agree with UN? that the population of the world should be 1 billion.
The UN does not say the world population should be 1 billion. You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. The quote was to show two extremes. What part of that supports your assertion?

You need to fire your translator because he/she does not understand English.

[Malmoesoldier]

And as I said before, please link us to that passage, as I haven't been able to find it in the links that you provided.

If you've actually read and understood this document for yourself, this should be trivially easy.

Refusal to provide a link will be considered an admission that such a passage does not exist.

You will find the quotes about food on this page under "An Alternative View": http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2B.html

And you will find the "Injectable contraceptives for women" under "Recommendations" here: http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2B.html

[Malmoesoldier]

The UN does not say the world population should be 1 billion. You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. The quote was to show two extremes. What part of that supports your assertion?

You need to fire your translator because he/she does not understand English.

You are either lieing or you dont understand the text. they say that the world today should be 1 billion. please go somewhere else with your ignorant posts.

a reasonable estimate for an industrialised world society at the present north American material standard of living would be 1 billion." there arent anything that is hard to understand in this quote or the others from UN. but then again peoples ignorance here is incredible and some posters here thinks that 80% of the population should die.

[Horatius]

You will find the quotes about food on this page under "An Alternative View": http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2B.html



Actually, no I won't. The first part, about the "mandatory programs" is there, but there is no discussion of food used as a weapon. In fact, the word "weapon" doesn't seem to be anywhere on that page.

Remember, the quote you brought up was:

“Would food be considered an instrument of national power? ... Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?”

So, where is this quote found? You implied in your original post, and have explicitly stated here, that the quote is in the above linked page, but it is not. Were you lying, or just repeating a bit of BS someone else told you, that you failed to check?




And you will find the "Injectable contraceptives for women" under "Recommendations" here: http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2B.html


This bit is there! Congratulations. Too bad I wasn't asking about that one.

Of course, the whole quote isn't very sinister, is it?

1. Short-term approaches: These approaches include improvement and field testing of existing technology and development of new technology. It is expected that some of these approaches would be ready for use within five years. Specific short term approaches worthy of increased effort are as follows:

...

e. Injectable contraceptives for women which are effective for three months or more and are administered by para-professionals undoubtedly will be a significant improvement. Currently available methods of this type are limited by their side effects and potential hazards. There are reasons to believe that these problems can be overcome with additional research.

Approx. Increased Cost: $5 million annually.


One (small) part of a "short term" plan, that doesn't even mention any "mandatory" aspects. Ohhh, I'm quivering in fear!


Is this the best you have? Really? Really?

Colour me not impressed.

[Architect]

I'm having flashbacks to ChristopherA here. Ayone else?

[JimBenArm]

I'm having flashbacks to ChristopherA here. Ayone else?
That cough syrup I gave you? You're supposed to take it in small doses. That's what's causing the flashbacks. Well, that and the stupidity.

[JamesB]

Does anyone actually care what some bureaucrats in the UN had to say 20 years ago? I mean, can you name a less effective organization?

Actually this whole 80% thing was started by me. I got tired of having to wait in line at Starbucks, and it seemed like the best solution.

[JimBenArm]

Does anyone actually care what some bureaucrats in the UN had to say 20 years ago? I mean, can you name a less effective organization?

Actually this whole 80% thing was started by me. I got tired of having to wait in line at Starbucks, and it seemed like the best solution.
Starbucks? What's the matter, you don't like good coffee?

[Architect]

That cough syrup I gave you? You're supposed to take it in small doses. That's what's causing the flashbacks. Well, that and the stupidity.

Johnnie Walker seemed a strange name for a cough medicine, I can tell you!

(hic)

[JimBenArm]

Johnnie Walker seemed a strange name for a cough medicine, I can tell you!

(hic)
Hey, it was good enough for my dear mother!

[afinemadness]

Does anyone actually care what some bureaucrats in the UN had to say 20 years ago? I mean, can you name a less effective organization?

Actually this whole 80% thing was started by me. I got tired of having to wait in line at Starbucks, and it seemed like the best solution.

James I thought I started it because the NJ traffic on my commute was getting to bad. That and trying to et through the tunnel to Manhattan is killing me.

[Architect]

Hey, it was good enough for my dear mother!

Aye, but that'll be the blue or black label....not this red stuff that our fiend palmed me off on......doesn't even smell like Calpol!

[Malmoesoldier]

Actually, no I won't. The first part, about the "mandatory programs" is there, but there is no discussion of food used as a weapon. In fact, the word "weapon" doesn't seem to be anywhere on that page.

Remember, the quote you brought up was:

“Would food be considered an instrument of national power? ... Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?”

So, where is this quote found? You implied in your original post, and have explicitly stated here, that the quote is in the above linked page, but it is not. Were you lying, or just repeating a bit of BS someone else told you, that you failed to check?






This bit is there! Congratulations. Too bad I wasn't asking about that one.

Of course, the whole quote isn't very sinister, is it?




One (small) part of a "short term" plan, that doesn't even mention any "mandatory" aspects. Ohhh, I'm quivering in fear!


Is this the best you have? Really? Really?

Colour me not impressed.

LOL!. people here are really ignorant, no joke.

you cant find the “Would food be considered an instrument of national power? ... Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?” quotes on this page?, STRANGE since it IS on this page: http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2B.html

You are a joke.

And they talk about sterilizing, "Injectable contraceptives for women". Maybe you forgot what document you are reading, it is about reducing the population, because the world is so "overpopulated"....

And i guess you didnt understand the UN quotes either. And yes it THOSE scare you very much, thats why you dont understand the facts.

b-r-a-i-n-w-a-s-h-e-d

[DavidJames]

b-r-a-i-n-w-a-s-h-e-dm-e-n-t-a-l-l-y i-l-l

Please seek help.

[Architect]

e-r-s-e

[Loss Leader]

My favorite part of the NSSM 2000, this:

Declassified/Released on 7/3/89


So, not only did the NWO have a secret plan to do ... something ... but NWO gruppenfuhrer George HW Bush actually declassified the document so that sheeple of the world would know his evil, evil plan. And it wasn't like it was the last thing he did, either. He had three and a half years of his Presidency left to go.

Brilliant.

[Mangoose]

They State that the human population has exceeded earth's biosphere capacity and set the parameters for recovery:
Quote:
It is estimated that an 'agricultural world' in which most human beings are peasants should be able to support 5 to 7 billion people....In contrast, a reasonable estimate for an industrialised world society at the present north American material standard of living would be 1 billion."
There is no discussion in the GBA of how 2/3 of the earth's human population might be eliminated

Whoa, nelly!! How in heck are you able to read genocide/eightfold decimation in a statement that is talking about the size of the population that can have an "American standard of living"?? It's the population that can have a certain standard of living.....not that's what the total world population should be! Please show us where it says that the world population would have be to reduced to that level.

[Malmoesoldier]

Whoa, nelly!! How in heck are you able to read genocide/eightfold decimation in a statement that is talking about the size of the population that can have an "American standard of living"?? It's the population that can have a certain standard of living.....not that's what the total world population should be! Please show us where it says that the world population would have be to reduced to that level.

I dont know why i keep responding to posts like this, but i will do it one more time. i dont need to show you anything you just quoted UN. like they say "a reasonable estimate for an industrialised world society at the present north American material standard of living would be 1 billion"

The Global Biodiversity Assessment says: simply cut the world population by about 80%-or return to a feudal lifestyle (no cars, planes, air conditioners)

they say that a world with the present north American material standard of living cant support 5-7 billion people.

And Although the GBA does not say it, cutting the world's food production in half like they talk about, would certainly produce massive starvation and pestilence and cut human population by at least half.

[T.A.M.]

better get the bunker dug then Malmoe, as you may be one of the 350,000 they plan to eliminate on day #1.

must suck to live in a sea of paranoia.

TAM:)

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Is this thread a joke?


No. Well... yes, but... no.

[afinemadness]

Malmoe was not around for a few days I was thinking the extermination already started. He was in the first group targeted was he not?

[JamesB]

Starbucks? What's the matter, you don't like good coffee?

Hey, I am from Seattle. I only drink Starbucks coffee, buy Microsoft software, order books from Amazon.com, and fly on planes manufactured by the Boeing Corporation.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Hey, I am from Seattle. I only drink Starbucks coffee, buy Microsoft software, order books from Amazon.com, and fly on planes manufactured by the Boeing Corporation.
I'm still miffed that Starbucks bought Seattle's Best.

[achtung circus]

I dont know why i keep responding to posts like this, but i will do it one more time:covereyes. i dont need to show you anything you just quoted UN. like they say "a reasonable estimate for an industrialised world society at the present north American material standard of living would be 1 billion"

The Global Biodiversity Assessment says: simply cut the world population by about 80%-or return to a feudal lifestyle (no cars, planes, air conditioners)

they say that a world with the present north American material standard of living cant support 5-7 billion people.



One of my ecology professors beat a baseball analogy into our heads.

He said "Nature bats last."

Take a look at energy consumption and tell me it's sustainable for eternity. Tell me that North American society can continue without modifying energy consumption. Tell me that the rest of the world can consume energy at that rate with no feedback loop kicking in.

Or not.

That you choose to interpret discussions of the future as evil plots is curious, but hey, even paranoids have enemies.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

I thought Nature batted clean-up.

[Malmoesoldier]

I am sorry that the world isnt as the schools teaches you and as you think it is. You will not die rightnow so you can go back and watch your fotboll game.

[Plantfoam]

I am sorry that the world isnt as the schools teaches you and as you think it is. You will not die rightnow so you can go back and watch your fotboll game.

You're right. Chances are I will be dead by 2150 because of underhanded NWO activities, though.

They have not implemented the plan yet, because they realized if they kill 80% of the people then they would have to do manual labor themselves in order keep things going.

[achtung circus]

I thought Nature batted clean-up.

Home field advantage.

[BenBurch]

Malmoesoldier, when you are freezing and starving to death in 40 years because there is no fuel to heat your home and no fuel to run the tractors for agriculture and no fuel for the fishing boats (and no fish left in the sea anyway) I hope you will remember this conversation and the fact that Zero Population Growth and Universal Birth Control might just have been a more humane way of dealing with that problem.

[tomwaits]

If the NWO killed off 80% of the people, where would all the sheeple be that could be controlled?

[Malmoesoldier]

In fact, the only mention of mandatory programs I could find was


mandatory programs may be needed and that we should be considering these possibilities now. http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2B.html

Horatius "They talk about saving the earth!!!" how can you be against that :jaw-dropp

Hey lets close our eyes to the fact that they want to sterilize the population through force (which they already have done to thousands of people) and use food as a weapon for it, and the total propaganda that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain a couple less billion people then what we are today.

I will not bother you with any more facts, go and watch your fotball game.

[achtung circus]

I am sorry that the world isnt as the schools teaches you and as you think it is. You will not die rightnow so you can go back and watch your fotboll game.

And I am sorry that the world is not as Alex Jones and the John Birch Society would have you believe.:p

BTW, what is this "fotboll" of which you speak, I'm not a sports guy.

[Malmoesoldier]

Malmoesoldier, when you are freezing and starving to death in 40 years because there is no fuel to heat your home and no fuel to run the tractors for agriculture and no fuel for the fishing boats (and no fish left in the sea anyway) I hope you will remember this conversation and the fact that Zero Population Growth and Universal Birth Control might just have been a more humane way of dealing with that problem.

yes because in 40 years there will not be any fuel left for homes. and the world today is overpopulated, it is not a myth it is true!!!.

Arent you the guy that said 80% of the population should die and that the steel from WTC wasnt evidence and couldnt provide any proof to the investigation. Nobody cares about you or your opinion, they are just implanted beliefs made of propaganda anyway. lets start with your family and then your firends, im sure you understand that you are a virus and that you haft to go because you are a threat to the earths survival?.

Please dont even respond, you make me sick.

[tomwaits]

I thought you weren't going to bother us with any more facts, malmo? You know...so we can get back to our "fotball" game?

[achtung circus]

yes because in 40 years there will not be any fuel left for homes. and the world today is overpopulated, it is not a myth it is true!!!.

Arent you the guy that said 80% of the population should die and that the steel from WTC wasnt evidence and couldnt provide any proof to the investigation. Nobody cares about you or your opinion, they are just implanted beliefs made of propaganda anyway. lets start with your family and then your firends, im sure you understand that you are a virus and that you haft to go because you are a threat to the earth survival?.

Please dont even respond, you make me sick.

Seriously, take your meds.

[BenBurch]

I hope I have you barfing in a few minutes, Malemute.

Because we are at peak oil right now.

This is no surprise, the Club Of Rome predicted it in 1970, and other predictions of it go back all the way to Isambard Kingdom Brunel (though he was talking about coal and iron as oil was not in general use as a fuel until after his era.)

Fossil fuels are of fixed quantity and can be exhausted. ALL sane people understand that. The only real differences are arguments over the extent of the reserves. But we all know the piper has to be paid and soon.

I believe that the only hope we have is universal access to birth control and a crash program to move the planet to fission reactor power assisted by solar and wind and hydro where that is possible.

We also must begin to treat the seas as farms, and STOCK them, and declare certain areas to be fallow while stocking takes effect.

Because 80% of humanity dying is just the start if we do not.

You cannot go against the laws of physics.

[BenBurch]

Fotball; http://www.brikkerogbrett.com/games/fotball.shtml

[DGM]

An interesting comment about the document he is referring to.
The UN Global Biodiversity Assessment (GBA) was key in exposing to the Senate the true intent of the treaty. The Assessment was supposed to be in draft form in the spring of 1994.
When the US Senate attempted to get the draft of the GBA, they were told by the UN that not only did this draft document not exist, they had no intention of writing it.
http://www.discerningtoday.org/world_govn_outline.htm#N_26_

Malmoe:
Do you have a source to the existence of this document that you claim to be the UN? I'm talking about the document itself not someone quoting it.

I found this book but Elizabeth Dowdeswell is not the UN.

http://www.amazon.com/Global-Biodiversity-Assessment-Elizabeth-Dowdeswell/dp/0521564816

[Architect]

Stop teasing him, DGM.

[Nick Terry]

Seriously, take your meds.

ahhh... just like old times eh, ac?

:D

[JamesB]

I'm still miffed that Starbucks bought Seattle's Best.

Hey, it is taking over the world. This topic always reminds me of a great Simpsons scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfYAdx-pTa0

Sorry, I could only find it in Italian.

[JimBenArm]

So, Malmo, again I ask:
Why do I have to worry about this? I'll be in the 20%. As far as the rest of your type, big wahhh! So just suck it up and take it like a man! You picked the wrong team and lost.
Or, as we classier types like to say: Neener, neener neener!

[T.A.M.]

yes because in 40 years there will not be any fuel left for homes. and the world today is overpopulated, it is not a myth it is true!!!.

Arent you the guy that said 80% of the population should die and that the steel from WTC wasnt evidence and couldnt provide any proof to the investigation. Nobody cares about you or your opinion, they are just implanted beliefs made of propaganda anyway. lets start with your family and then your firends, im sure you understand that you are a virus and that you haft to go because you are a threat to the earths survival?.

Please dont even respond, you make me sick.

Well if we are getting implanted beliefs, can I get some that have me as a wealthy millionaire who owns a time travel machine...thanks in advance to my NWO keepers.

TAM:)

[Brainache]

I've just been skimming this strange thread and I have a question: Is MalmoeSoldier saying that the Earth could support 5-7 billion people with a living standard similar to the one the USA currently enjoys? Further, is he suggesting that the evil UN have decided that even though this would be possible, that they would rather kill off 80% of the world's population instead?

[achtung circus]

ahhh... just like old times eh, ac?

:D

Well Jetblast he ain't.

:)

[ingoa]

My dear....
How can one be so stupid? Nobody has to kill people if we over-use our resources. They will die by themselves. Without food your life expectancy becomes somewhat shortened.

If they don't starve to death, they will be customers. Win-win for NWO. And UN and so forth... :D

[uk_dave]

Seriously, take your meds.


Perhaps that should be ....

......change your meds.

[WildCat]

They have not implemented the plan yet, because they realized if they kill 80% of the people then they would have to do manual labor themselves in order keep things going.
We're working on creating zombie Mexicans for that problem right now.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

The worst I get out of the "facts" posted is that some people feel that a American standard of living would be sustainable if the global population was only 20% of what it currently.

There also seem to be very real concerns that this planet can't keep up with the ever-increasing population and its demand for resources, especially with attempts to raise the standard of living globally, and there have proposals for potential "population control" programs to curb this problem.

But these population control programs seem more along the lines of China's one-child policy and not the short-term genocide of 80% of the world's population that fear-mongers like Alex Jones keep ranting about.

Again, at worst, the "facts" provided give me the sense that the population reduction the paranoids are so fearful of would actually span many, many generations by limiting birth rates (fewer births than deaths = population reduction). Of course, this is if the "plan" is ever put into motion. The paranoids seem to think it already is. Looking around, ehhh... I don't see it.

Ultimately, to me, this seems logically sound, ethically debatable, but hardly sinister.

[Horatius]

LOL!. people here are really ignorant, no joke.

you cant find the “Would food be considered an instrument of national power? ... Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?” quotes on this page?, STRANGE since it IS on this page: http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2B.html

You are a joke.



Well, it looks like I have to apologize, I did find that quote. I must have searched for the wrong term.

Of course, they're still talking about an alternative position, and are simply posing these questions as topics which might arise. There's no suggestion that these are policies that the UN or anyone else is advocating. They are warning against these possibilities if their other efforts are unsuccessful:

An Alternative View

The above basic strategy assumes that the current forms of assistance programs in both population and economic and social development areas will be able to solve the problem. There is however, another view, which is shared by a growing number of experts. It believes that the outlook is much harsher and far less tractable than commonly perceived. This holds that the severity of the population problem in this century which is already claiming the lives of more than 10 million people yearly, is such as to make likely continued widespread food shortage and other demographic catastrophes, and, in the words of C.P. Snow, we shall be watching people starve on television.

The conclusion of this view is that mandatory programs may be needed and that we should be considering these possibilities now.

This school of thought believes the following types of questions need to be addressed:

Should the U.S. make an all out commitment to major limitation of world population with all the financial and international as well as domestic political costs that would entail?

Should the U.S. set even higher agricultural production goals which would enable it to provide additional major food resources to other countries? Should they be nationally or internationally controlled?

On what basis should such food resources then be provided? Would food be considered an instrument of national power? Will we be forced to make choices as to whom we can reasonably assist, and if so, should population efforts be a criterion for such assistance?

Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?

Should the U.S. seek to change its own food consumption patterns toward more efficient uses of protein?

Are mandatory population control measures appropriate for the U.S. and/or for others?

Should the U.S. initiate a major research effort to address the growing problems of fresh water supply, ecological damage, and adverse climate?

While definitive answers to those questions are not possible in this study given its time limitations and its implications for domestic policy, nevertheless they are needed if one accepts the drastic and persistent character of the population growth problem. Should the choice be made that the recommendations and the options given below are not adequate to meet this problem, consideration should be given to a further study and additional action in this field as outlined above.


And why aren't you crying foul about the other "suggestions" this "alternative view" puts forth, such as, "Should the U.S. set even higher agricultural production goals which would enable it to provide additional major food resources to other countries?", "Should the U.S. seek to change its own food consumption patterns toward more efficient uses of protein?", or "Should the U.S. initiate a major research effort to address the growing problems of fresh water supply, ecological damage, and adverse climate?"

If these guys are such evil fiends as you believe, why does their "much harsher" outlook still seem concerned with trying to provide more food & water to those you claim they want to kill?




And they talk about sterilizing, "Injectable contraceptives for women". Maybe you forgot what document you are reading, it is about reducing the population, because the world is so "overpopulated"....

And i guess you didnt understand the UN quotes either. And yes it THOSE scare you very much, thats why you dont understand the facts.

b-r-a-i-n-w-a-s-h-e-d


"Injectable contraceptives for women which are effective for three months".

"Sterilization of men and women has received wide-spread acceptance in several areas when a simple, quick, and safe procedure is readily available."

No mention of force. No mention of mandatory.

p-a-r-a-n-o-i-d



http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2B.html

Horatius "They talk about saving the earth!!!" how can you be against that :jaw-dropp




Because I hate the Earth. I thought that was understood.



Hey lets close our eyes to the fact that they want to sterilize the population through force (which they already have done to thousands of people) and use food as a weapon for it, and the total propaganda that planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain a couple less billion people then what we are today.




"want"? Show me where they advocate using force to sterilize anyone. Show me where they advocate using food as a weapon. Discussing a possibility is not the same as wanting that thing to occur, or advocating that it occur. If I say to someone, "If you continue walking in that direction, you'll fall in that hole", does that mean I want them to fall in the hole?

And again, as others have mentioned, this is a document from 30 years ago. They made a lot of predictions that haven't come true. Any programs that they may have tried to implement have disappeared without a trace. Why, in 30 years of trying (according to you) has the NWO/UN/whoever failed so completely?

[Malmoesoldier]

An interesting comment about the document he is referring to.

http://www.discerningtoday.org/world_govn_outline.htm#N_26_

Malmoe:
Do you have a source to the existence of this document that you claim to be the UN? I'm talking about the document itself not someone quoting it.

I found this book but Elizabeth Dowdeswell is not the UN.

http://www.amazon.com/Global-Biodiversity-Assessment-Elizabeth-Dowdeswell/dp/0521564816

Yes i have. "a reasonable estimate for an industrialised world society at the present north American material standard of living would be 1 billion." you can find that quote and the others in the Global Biodiversity Assesment (which fulfills Article 25 of the Convention on Bioogical Diversity) in Section 11.2.3.2 on page 773. Published for the United Nations Environment Programme. Publisher is Cambridge University Press ISBN #564316 Phone 914/937 9600.Cambridge University Press, 110 Midland Ave, Port Chester, NY 10573-3829.

[uk_dave]

Malmo, your ability to understand what you are reading is severely compromised by the websites you view. You have been sold a lie. Go back and get a refund.

[ktesibios]

Actually this whole 80% thing was started by me. I got tired of having to wait in line at Starbucks, and it seemed like the best solution.

I know a much more efficient way to shorten those lines. Just spread a rumor on conspiraloon Web sites that the eevil NWO is implementing the plan by secretly putting sterilizing chemicals in Starbucks coffee.;)

[DGM]

Yes i have. "a reasonable estimate for an industrialised world society at the present north American material standard of living would be 1 billion." you can find that quote and the others in the Global Biodiversity Assesment (which fulfills Article 25 of the Convention on Bioogical Diversity) in Section 11.2.3.2 on page 773. Published for the United Nations Environment Programme. Publisher is Cambridge University Press ISBN #564316 Phone 914/937 9600.Cambridge University Press, 110 Midland Ave, Port Chester, NY 10573-3829.
From the books description.
Book Description
The survival of the Earths biological resources is under threat from rapidly expanding human populations that are degrading the environment at an accelerating rate. Despite the increased awareness of the importance of biological diversity, the scientific foundations on which to plan conservation and development policies are still being developed. The Global Biodiversity Assessment represents an unparalleled attempt to provide an independent scientific analysis of the current issues. It assesses the present state of knowledge, identifies gaps in understanding and draws attention to those issues where scientists have reached a consensus as well as those where uncertainty has led to conflicting viewpoints and a need for further research. The Assessment provides an unprecedented source of information for decision-makers, officials, scientists and others interested in the future of the planet.

Why do you say this is from the UN?

[Jensen]

Malmoesolder, isn't the UN made up of most of the worlds governments?

Is it your belief that a majority of these governments want to commit this mother of all genocides? (or rather suicides)

Why is there not even one of the UN member states who try to expose this plan?

[achtung circus]

And they talk about sterilizing,


Well, I had a vasectomy. Disease considerations aside, it is the surest way to ensure that I am not an unexpected father at the quasi-advanced age of 52.

I thought I was acting responsibly.

Turns out I was just an agent of .... who, exactly?:confused:

[uk_dave]

Why is there not even one of the UN member states who try to expose this plan?


Because everyone is out to get him.

[Malmoesoldier]

My dear....
How can one be so stupid? Nobody has to kill people if we over-use our resources. They will die by themselves. Without food your life expectancy becomes somewhat shortened.

If they don't starve to death, they will be customers. Win-win for NWO. And UN and so forth... :D

Its very easy to tell whos stupid. Did you miss the part where they want to cut the worlds food production in half?, maybe you missed everything. And Although the GBA does not say it, cutting the world's food production in half like they talk about, would certainly produce massive starvation and pestilence. I think you are smart enough to understand that.

I've just been skimming this strange thread and I have a question: Is MalmoeSoldier saying that the Earth could support 5-7 billion people with a living standard similar to the one the USA currently enjoys? Further, is he suggesting that the evil UN have decided that even though this would be possible, that they would rather kill off 80% of the world's population instead?

Yes their document is total propaganda, do i even haft to say that we dont need to cut the population by 80% in order to save the earth?.... their goal is to kill 80% of the worlds population.

they even state "At the more frugal European standard of living, 2-3 billion would be possible" 2 billion people?? talk about sick people, Ben should join theme.


Well, it looks like I have to apologize, I did find that quote. I must have searched for the wrong term.

Of course, they're still talking about an alternative position, and are simply posing these questions as topics which might arise. There's no suggestion that these are policies that the UN or anyone else is advocating. They are warning against these possibilities if their other efforts are unsuccessful:




And why aren't you crying foul about the other "suggestions" this "alternative view" puts forth, such as, "Should the U.S. set even higher agricultural production goals which would enable it to provide additional major food resources to other countries?", "Should the U.S. seek to change its own food consumption patterns toward more efficient uses of protein?", or "Should the U.S. initiate a major research effort to address the growing problems of fresh water supply, ecological damage, and adverse climate?"

If these guys are such evil fiends as you believe, why does their "much harsher" outlook still seem concerned with trying to provide more food & water to those you claim they want to kill?






"Injectable contraceptives for women which are effective for three months".

"Sterilization of men and women has received wide-spread acceptance in several areas when a simple, quick, and safe procedure is readily available."

No mention of force. No mention of mandatory.

p-a-r-a-n-o-i-d






Because I hate the Earth. I thought that was understood.






"want"? Show me where they advocate using force to sterilize anyone. Show me where they advocate using food as a weapon. Discussing a possibility is not the same as wanting that thing to occur, or advocating that it occur. If I say to someone, "If you continue walking in that direction, you'll fall in that hole", does that mean I want them to fall in the hole?

And again, as others have mentioned, this is a document from 30 years ago. They made a lot of predictions that haven't come true. Any programs that they may have tried to implement have disappeared without a trace. Why, in 30 years of trying (according to you) has the NWO/UN/whoever failed so completely?


NSSM 200 mentions Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?” "WONT", saying that they will do it to countries and people that wont accept it.. And as i showed you, UN HAVE sterilized thousands of people without their knowledge already, so WAKE UP.

Their document is total propaganda, how hard is that to understand? so what if they talk about something that sounds friendly, do you think they would write how they want to exterminate us on every page?. the facts i showed you still remains, they want to kill innocent people in the name of saving the earth. cutting the world's food production in half would certainly produce massive starvation and pestilence and cut human population by at least half.

And governments have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations without their knowledge (which has resulted in many deaths) in order to advance the progress of eugenics. including the infamous Ringworm Children, who were used as guinea pigs and subjected to lethal doses of radiation by Israeli health officials, killing 6,000 and leaving the rest with lifelong debilitating illnesses.

So please wake up. evil people in positions of power didnt die out when hitler died, he was just a puppet funded by people in much higer positions of power then himself.

[stateofgrace]

So please wake up. evil people in positions of power didnt die out when hitler died, he was just a puppet funded by people in much higer positions of power then himself.

Who ?

[Malmoesoldier]

From the books description.


Why do you say this is from the UN?

BEACUSE THEY ARE THE UNITED NATIONS, they are working with theme. why do you ask so much stupid questions?. DGM tell the truth you know everything already but are desperly trying to "debunk" so noboy will expose your heros? ;). please look things up better or i will put you on ignore.

Malmoesolder, isn't the UN made up of most of the worlds governments?

Is it your belief that a majority of these governments want to commit this mother of all genocides? (or rather suicides)

Why is there not even one of the UN member states who try to expose this plan?

There are many great books and documentaries that explains how the system works. No they arent all in on it. But there are very powerful men inpositions of power from different countries that conspires together. do some research into it. Its hard to understand when you dont connect the dots, an example of powerful men in positions of power that conspired together that got exposed is P2 "Propaganda 2 lodge" look that up.

[Brainache]

Originally Posted by Brainache
I've just been skimming this strange thread and I have a question: Is MalmoeSoldier saying that the Earth could support 5-7 billion people with a living standard similar to the one the USA currently enjoys? Further, is he suggesting that the evil UN have decided that even though this would be possible, that they would rather kill off 80% of the world's population instead?

Yes their document is total propaganda, do i even haft to say that we dont need to cut the population by 80% in order to save the earth?.... their goal is to kill 80% of the worlds population.

they even state
Quote:
"At the more frugal European standard of living, 2-3 billion would be possible"
2 billion people?? talk about sick people, Ben should join theme.



So the Earth could support its current population all living in US style luxury, but the UN would rather just kill 80% of us for kicks?

Seems to me all they are doing is pointing out that the Earth is finite and that something has to change or we are all gonna drown in our own waste. Doesn't sound that sinister to me.

So what has happened to the population of the world since 1976? Has it gone up or down? (hint: It hasn't gone down)

Do you really think that the leaders of nearly every country on the planet believe that they could maintain a high tech society with only 20% of the current population? REALLY???

[stateofgrace]

There are many great books and documentaries that explains how the system works. No they arent all in on it. But there are very powerful men inpositions of power from different countries that conspires together. do some research into it. Its hard to understand when you dont connect the dots, an example of powerful men in positions of power that conspired together that got exposed is P2 "Propaganda 2 lodge" look that up.

No you connect the dots for me please, again who? Who are these " powerful "men?

[Malmoesoldier]

Who ?

Manuscripts proving Prescott Bush's Nazi ties can be found in the National Archives and the Library of Congress documenting the business relationship between W. Averell Harriman, George Herbert Walker, and Prescott Bush, who served as U.S. partners of, and private bankers for, Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, the financial architect of The Third Reich.

If that was your question.

connect the dots here? ha! it would take hours. Read "pawns in the game" and "tragedy and hope" to start with.

[stateofgrace]

Manuscripts proving Prescott Bush's Nazi ties can be found in the National Archives and the Library of Congress documenting the business relationship between W. Averell Harriman, George Herbert Walker, and Prescott Bush, who served as U.S. partners of, and private bankers for, Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, the financial architect of The Third Reich.

Link please.

[stateofgrace]

oh for goodness sake maloe you are far too slow, two minutes on google was all it took.

Ok here is the first hit

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html


George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany


and


His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.


Now,how exactly does this tie it all together? Which evil powerful men are planning to wipe out 80% of the world population ?

[Sporanox]

I don't know why we keep on going with this. No matter how you cut it to Malmoe, he always believes that the UN publicly revealed their plot of mass destruction (PMD) to us some thirty years or so before they were going to actually do it, so we could...prevent it? Uhh, okay.

And of course this plot also includes the evil measures of feeding starving children.

[Malmoesoldier]

oh for goodness sake maloe you are far too slow, two minutes on google was all it took.

Ok here is the first hit

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html



and



Now,how exactly does this tie it all together? Which evil powerful men are planning to wipe out 80% of the world population ?

Do you want me to write 400 pages in this thread just for you, so you can understand the world better, because you are lazy and wont read books?. No thanks, ask somebody else to write a book for you.

[stateofgrace]

Do you want me to write 400 pages in this thread just for you, so you can understand the world better, because you are lazy and wont read books?. No thanks, ask somebody else to write a book for you.

I understand the world fine, sunbeam, unlike you I have worked in third world countries and seen desperation, depravation and starvation up close.

Now again, please loose the self righteous uptight attitude and back up your claims.

Which "powerful men” ?

[Malmoesoldier]

I don't know why we keep on going with this. No matter how you cut it to Malmoe, he always believes that the UN publicly revealed their plot of mass destruction (PMD) to us some thirty years or so before they were going to actually do it, so we could...prevent it? Uhh, okay.

And of course this plot also includes the evil measures of feeding starving children.

Classic thinking inside the box. "Do you really think he stated that?? do you really think he would say something like that if it was a SECRET :eek: noway! that would never happen, so it didnt happen, okey??, he didnt write that it means something else"

Many people today give words new meanings which they in reality dont have, because brainwashing and propaganda is real. why did the MK-ULTRA documents come out? etc. things does come out, and this isnt something they have talked about on the news its because of people that does research and the internet it has come out. you can choose to ignore the facts, i guess UN hasnt sterilized THOUSANDS of people without their knowledge, and i guess they found WMDS in iraq to ;)

[Sporanox]

Classic thinking inside the box. "Do you really think he stated that?? do you really think he would say something like that if it was a SECRET noway! that would never happen, so it didnt happen, okey??, he didnt write that it means something else"

The accusation of "classic thinking inside the box" is so full of irony coming from you that it might burst.

Explain to me why the "NWO" would write up a neat little summary of their plans of world domination and release it publicly. I can see no reason for doing so.

Also, explain to me why, if the NWO is so unethical and ruthless, Alex Jones has not been murdered in a suspicious car accident already.

Many people today give words new meanings which they in reality dont have

LOL. The irony meter has just burst.

you can choose to ignore the facts, i guess UN hasnt sterilized THOUSANDS of people without their knowledge,

You need to directly source this. That doesn't mean telling me to read what you have posted already. That DOES mean quoting something specific from a linked source.

nd i guess they found WMDS in iraq to

Explain to me what this has to do with the NWO. By the way, this fact is well known because of the extensive coverage of the mainstream media.

[Pardalis]

Classic thinking inside the box.

Classic woo-woo response.

[Hokulele]

Classic thinking inside the box.


As opposed to "classic thinking inside the tin foil hat".

[DGM]

BEACUSE THEY ARE THE UNITED NATIONS, they are working with theme. why do you ask so much stupid questions?. DGM tell the truth you know everything already but are desperly trying to "debunk" so noboy will expose your heros? ;). please look things up better or i will put you on ignore.



There are many great books and documentaries that explains how the system works. No they arent all in on it. But there are very powerful men inpositions of power from different countries that conspires together. do some research into it. Its hard to understand when you dont connect the dots, an example of powerful men in positions of power that conspired together that got exposed is P2 "Propaganda 2 lodge" look that up.
Your going to put me on ignore?

A sure sign that you can't counter my questions. Go for it.

Oh BTW You should read the book by Elizabeth Dowdeswell some day. You'll find it doesn't say what you think it does.

[BenBurch]

Well, the Prescott Bush/Nazi claim does seem to be true, but true or not its relevance to our present predicament seems to be unclear unless your point is that sociopathy is genetic?

[hellaeon]

I don't know why we keep on going with this. No matter how you cut it to Malmoe, he always believes that the UN publicly revealed their plot of mass destruction (PMD) to us some thirty years or so before they were going to actually do it, so we could...prevent it? Uhh, okay.

And of course this plot also includes the evil measures of feeding starving children.

hahaha this is what I gathered. Pretty stupid an inneffective master plan if you reveal it.

Malmoe, so how come united nations support medicine and food drops to third world countries? Wouldn't it be better in the evil scheme to stop helping these nations? Did you even consider this while your thinking of the total evil master plan you believe is in action?

[Gravy]

You know who really hates Nazis and their sympathizers? The ADL.

Rumors about the alleged Nazi "ties" of the late Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, have circulated widely through the Internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated.

Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.

http://www.adl.org/Internet_Rumors/prescott.htm

[hellaeon]

Malmoe do you understand the issues of religion with aids in Africa? Do you know why its in the best interests of the african nation to understand contraception and embrace it?
If you actually did some research on the beliefs and superstitions of this nation and its less educated areas, you might realise why contraception and birth control is important.

[Pardalis]

Besides, if the Bush are Nazis it completely contradicts this White House's clear pro Isreali stance doesn't it? :boggled:

I'm sure Malmo-whatever-his-name-is has a more complex conspiracy in mind... :rolleyes:

[stateofgrace]

Malmoe do you understand the issues of religion with aids in Africa? Do you know why its in the best interests of the african nation to understand contraception and embrace it?
If you actually did some research on the beliefs and superstitions of this nation and its less educated areas, you might realise why contraception and birth control is important.

http://www.cathnews.com/news/310/53.php

I guess this is all part of Malmoes grand theory, of course all controlled by those as yet unnamed evil “ powerful men”.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Yes their document is total propaganda, do i even haft to say that we dont need to cut the population by 80% in order to save the earth?


Soo... how about 75%?

[DGM]

http://www.cathnews.com/news/310/53.php

I guess this is all part of Malmoes grand theory, of course all controlled by those as yet unnamed evil “ powerful men”.
Malmoe claiming AIDS is a part of the NWO plan in 3...2....1.....

[Malmoesoldier]

.You need to directly source this.

I did source it in my first post. This has happen many times.

UNICEF Nigerian Polio Vaccine Contaminated with Sterilizing Agents Scientist Finds: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/mar/04031101.html


An estimated 100,000 to 300,000 people, mostly women, were sterilized

U.N. Complicit in Forced Sterilizations: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73780,00.html

Virginia governor apologizes for eugenics law: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/05/02/virginia-eugenics.htm

BTW You should read the book by Elizabeth Dowdeswell some day.

I will read harry potter instead, that book has as much to do with this as hers.

hahaha this is what I gathered. Pretty stupid an inneffective master plan if you reveal it.

Malmoe, so how come united nations support medicine and food drops to third world countries? Wouldn't it be better in the evil scheme to stop helping these nations? Did you even consider this while your thinking of the total evil master plan you believe is in action?

So how come united nations rapes children and has sex rings and pedofile scandals, and sterilized THOUSANDS of people without their knowledge. How come governments have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations without their knowledge (which has resulted in many deaths) in order to advance the progress of eugenics. How come you ignore everything i have writen in this thread?.

"so how come united nations support medicine and food drops to third world countries?"

way to think inside the box. How come every nazi soldier didnt hate blacks and jews?... every politician in UN and the world is not part of a conspiracy.

[Pardalis]

Malmoe claiming AIDS is a part of the NWO plan in 3...2....1.....

I'm kind of waiting for him to say that Global Warming is part of the plan too...

[DGM]

Malmoe:
I will read harry potter instead, that book has as much to do with this as hers.

She's the author of "Global Biodiversity Assessment". You know the book you keep quoting.

Solid research your doing there.:rolleyes:

[Malmoesoldier]

Besides, if the Bush are Nazis it completely contradicts this White House's clear pro Isreali stance doesn't it? :boggled:

I'm sure Malmo-whatever-his-name-is has a more complex conspiracy in mind... :rolleyes:

Because the bushes funded hitler does not mean they had the same belifies, they just used hitler to do dirty work and for money. NWO is all kind of people, arabs,jews,americans,etc. But they do practice rituals like the nazis did, Skull and bones is the same as the thule society.

Soo... how about 75%?

Why whould you be less sick if you think 75% should die?. why do you even ask? do you think cutting the worlds population by 75% would be a good thing?.

[westprog]

Your going to put me on ignore?

A sure sign that you can't counter my questions. Go for it.


That may be true in this particular case, but I'd hate to think that the vast number of people I have on ignore are simply too clever for me.

[Malmoesoldier]

Malmoe:


She's the author of "Global Biodiversity Assessment". You know the book you keep quoting.

Solid research your doing there.:rolleyes:

The facts i have showed you is the facts.

I will give you the source again

You will find that quote in the Global Biodiversity Assesment (which fulfills Article 25 of the Convention on Bioogical Diversity) in Section 11.2.3.2 on page 773. Published for the United Nations Environment Programme. Publisher is Cambridge University Press ISBN #564316 Phone 914/937 9600.Cambridge University Press, 110 Midland Ave, Port Chester, NY 10573-3829.

It is a total propaganda document, it is not hard to understand, that talks about killing 80% of the population in the name of saving the earth.

[Pardalis]

Because the bushes funded hitler does not mean they had the same belifies, they just used hitler to do dirty work and for money.

I won't even try to make sense of this.

[JimBenArm]

The facts i have showed you is the facts.

I will give you the source again

You will find that quote in the Global Biodiversity Assesment (which fulfills Article 25 of the Convention on Bioogical Diversity) in Section 11.2.3.2 on page 773. Published for the United Nations Environment Programme. Publisher is Cambridge University Press ISBN #564316 Phone 914/937 9600.Cambridge University Press, 110 Midland Ave, Port Chester, NY 10573-3829.

It is a total propaganda document, it is not hard to understand, that talks about killing 80% of the population in the name of saving the earth.
You're absolutely correct, it's not hard to understand. So why do you have so much difficulty with it?

[DGM]

The facts i have showed you is the facts.

I will give you the source again

You will find that quote in the Global Biodiversity Assesment (which fulfills Article 25 of the Convention on Bioogical Diversity) in Section 11.2.3.2 on page 773. Published for the United Nations Environment Programme. Publisher is Cambridge University Press ISBN #564316 Phone 914/937 9600.Cambridge University Press, 110 Midland Ave, Port Chester, NY 10573-3829.

It is a total propaganda document, it is not hard to understand, that talks about killing 80% of the population in the name of saving the earth.
Malmoe:
Look it up yourself.
http://www.amazon.com/Global-Biodiversity-Assessment-Elizabeth-Dowdeswell/dp/0521564816

You can even search the book. Go to page 773. It's where the quote is from.

I knew you didn't read it.

[Hokulele]

Birth control is murder? Who knew?

[JimBenArm]

Birth control is murder? Who knew?
Shut up, woman! If you're not preggers, you're murdering them eggs!
Now shut up and reproduce!

[Malmoesoldier]

Malmoe:
Look it up yourself.
http://www.amazon.com/Global-Biodiversity-Assessment-Elizabeth-Dowdeswell/dp/0521564816

You can even search the book. Go to page 773. It's where the quote is from.

I knew you didn't read it.

Yes it is a book that has many documents in it, and i did search it and it had the quotes.

Now go and join the UN and rape children and sterilize wimen and write documents about how planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 1-2 billion people.

[Malmoesoldier]

Shut up, woman! If you're not preggers, you're murdering them eggs!
Now shut up and reproduce!

Do you think cutting the worlds population by 70-80% would be a good thing, yes or no

[Hokulele]

Shut up, woman! If you're not preggers, you're murdering them eggs!
Now shut up and reproduce!


Pah, why reproduce with them myself when I can harvest and sell them on E-Bay. Just think, NWO-certified ova. I hope I get a big promotion from my handlers for this idea.

Yeah, they weren't all that thrilled with my other ideas. :boxedin:

[Malmoesoldier]

Pah, why reproduce with them myself when I can harvest and sell them on E-Bay. Just think, NWO-certified ova. I hope I get a big promotion from my handlers for this idea.

Yeah, they weren't all that thrilled with my other ideas. :boxedin:

Question for you to, Do you think cutting the worlds population by 70-80% would be a good thing, yes or no

[DGM]

Yes it is a book that has many documents in it, and i did search it and it had the quotes.

Now go and join the UN and rape children and sterilize wimen and write documents about how planet earth’s natural resources could only sustain 1-2 billion people.
A simple thank you for pointing out where the quote came from would suffice.

Really you should checkout the book from the library. You'll find it doesn't say what you think it does.

I dare you to.

No, I double dog dare you.:D

[Pardalis]

Do you think cutting the worlds population by 70-80% would be a good thing, yes or no

Come on Jim, the fate of the world depends on you. Answer! :boxedin:

[Hokulele]

Question for you to, Do you think cutting the worlds population by 70-80% would be a good thing, yes or no


Judging by the lack of effectiveness in China's ZPG programs, I think that this will never happen due to human efforts. Anyone who tells you otherwise does not have their brain turned on.

[JimBenArm]

Do you think cutting the worlds population by 70-80% would be a good thing, yes or no
Does this 70-80% include you? Yes or no.

[JimBenArm]

Come on Jim, the fate of the world depends on you. Answer! :boxedin:
Depends on his answer below...

[Malmoesoldier]

A simple thank you for pointing out where the quote came from would suffice.

Really you should checkout the book from the library. You'll find it doesn't say what you think it does.

I dare you to.

No, I double dog dare you.:D

http://peterdavid.malibulist.com/archives/bunny.jpg

Do you mean i was hallucinating while i read the quotes? it didnt say what it said? :eek:

UN didnt sterilize wimen eaither.

as a matter of fact nothing exist, no text says what it does say its all an hallucination. I have joined your religion, kinda fun like something i would play when i was three years old, i really like this child-mentality, please let me stay inside the box with your religion. reality scares me

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Why whould you be less sick if you think 75% should die?. why do you even ask? do you think cutting the worlds population by 75% would be a good thing?.


OK, alright... 60%.

[JimBenArm]

OK, alright... 60%.
Namby-pamby! I demand 90%!

[Malmoesoldier]

Does this 70-80% include you? Yes or no.

Be honest and admit what you stand for. do you think it would be a good thing, yes or no

[Malmoesoldier]

OK, alright... 60%.

No. I have awnsered your question two times now, awsner mine now. Do you think cutting the population by 70-80% would be a good thing, yes or no

[JimBenArm]

Be honest and admit what you stand for. do you think it would be a good thing, yes or no
I stand for truth, justice, and the American way!

Do I think what would be a good thing? I forgot what we were talking about.

[DGM]

http://peterdavid.malibulist.com/archives/bunny.jpg

Do you mean i was hallucinating while i read the quotes? it didnt say what it said? :eek:

UN didnt sterilize wimen eaither.

as a matter of fact nothing exist, no text says what it does say its all an hallucination. I have joined your religion, kinda fun like something i would play when i was three years old, i really like this child-mentality, please let me stay inside the box with your religion. reality scares me
Are you OK?

All I asked you to do is read the book that you got some quotes from.

I read it some years ago (my ex had a strange library of books) and it doesn't claim what you think it does.

Read it, you'll see.

[abenja1]

Whose "plan" is this: the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Jews, oh wait nevermind the UN. Just pick a group to scapegoat and the truthers will salivate at the mouths.

[Malmoesoldier]

Are you OK?

All I asked you to do is read the book that you got some quotes from.

I read it some years ago (my ex had a strange library of books) and it doesn't claim what you think it does.

Read it, you'll see.

I dont give a damn about what some lady from the UN writes, im sure that she is a good person. im talking about people inside UN that have different beliefs and want to kill people, and the HAVE put in work and sterilized thousands without their knowledge... and governments STILL have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations without their knowledge (which has resulted in many deaths) in order to advance the progress of eugenics.

Get that through your head sometime please.

[JimBenArm]

I dont give a damn about what some lady from the UN writes, im sure that she is a good person. im talking about people inside UN that have different beliefs and want to kill people, and the HAVE put in work and sterilized thousands without their knowledge... and governments STILL have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations without their knowledge (which has resulted in many deaths) in order to advance the progress of eugenics.

Get that through your head sometime please.
Now, now! Temper, temper!

Play nice!

[Malmoesoldier]

Whose "plan" is this: the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Jews, oh wait nevermind the UN. Just pick a group to scapegoat and the truthers will salivate at the mouths.

Rothschilds, Rockefellers, UN, CFR, Skull and bones, etc are all connected, working for the same goal.

[JimBenArm]

Rothschilds, Rockefellers, UN, CFR, Skull and bones, etc are all connected, working for the same goal.
Is that the East or West end zone? Do they have the wind against them, or is it at their backs for the kickoff?

[Malmoesoldier]

Now, now! Temper, temper!

Play nice!

You are 12 years old right? if not i feel sorry for you.

[Hokulele]

Is that the East or West end zone? Do they have the wind against them, or is it at their backs for the kickoff?


And clearly the Chiefs have not been included in the planning. :p

[JimBenArm]

You are 12 years old right? if not i feel sorry for you.

Its good with forums righ? cant get B**** slapped
Oh, I see, so reminding you to be polite and civil is immature. I'll be sure to remember that.
Please, feel free to feel sorry for me. Your pity means so much to me. Really! (Psst. I'm 53. Probably older than your grandparents.)

[JimBenArm]

And clearly the Chiefs have not been included in the planning. :p
They're doing the cooking. It's the CHEFs now, remember?

[DGM]

I dont give a damn about what some lady from the UN writes, im sure that she is a good person. im talking about people inside UN that have different beliefs and want to kill people, and the HAVE put in work and sterilized thousands without their knowledge... and governments STILL have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations without their knowledge (which has resulted in many deaths) in order to advance the progress of eugenics.

Get that through your head sometime please.
Afraid to find out what context the quotes were from I see.

Don't read it then because it won't support your fantasy.

BTW SHE IS NOT PART OF THE UN. Only 9 pages of that book are from the UN assessment and your quotes weren't them.

[DGM]

Oh, I see, so reminding you to be polite and civil is immature. I'll be sure to remember that.
Please, feel free to feel sorry for me. Your pity means so much to me. Really! (Psst. I'm 53. Probably older than your grandparents.)
Wow! Your even older then me. (not by much):boxedin:

[JimBenArm]

Wow! Your even older then me. (not by much):boxedin:
I'm dated by counting the rings in my legs. Or something like that.

[Brainache]

Rothschilds, Rockefellers, UN, CFR, Skull and bones, etc are all connected, working for the same goal.

And this goal of there's is to reduce the world's population by 80% through forced sterilisations etc?

Who would plough the fields? Who would slaughter their cattle? Who would do any of the menial work that would still need to be done to maintain anything like a western lifestyle?

The whole point of these papers and books is to point out the disparity between the way of life enjoyed by us in the "West" and the impossibility of making that lifestyle universal. There just aren't enough resources to go around. So saying that the world can only support 1 billion people living a western lifestyle is not the same as saying we should kill the other 6 billion people. It is actually saying that we in the west consume too much. That maybe we should think about what effect we are having on the rest of the world and maybe cut down a little on the excess consumption...

[Cl1mh4224rd]

No. I have awnsered your question two times now, awsner mine now. Do you think cutting the population by 70-80% would be a good thing, yes or no


You're asking a insanely vague question that can be answered both ways by the same person. Do you not see this?

[Alareth]

please go somewhere else with your ignorant posts.


Malmoesoldier, you really should think about the wisdom of this statement and follow your own advice.

[Malmoesoldier]

Afraid to find out what context the quotes were from I see.

Don't read it then because it won't support your fantasy.

BTW SHE IS NOT PART OF THE UN. Only 9 pages of that book are from the UN assessment and your quotes weren't them.

All the quotes are from an UN Conference on Human Settlements. please get your facts right, im getting tired of responding to your posts. And the quotes still say what they say, it cant be more clear then that. other chapters in the book hasnt ANYTHING to do with that document MY quotes is from. stop ignoring facts. And UN STILL has put work in, they dont only talk.

And this goal of there's is to reduce the world's population by 80% through forced sterilisations etc?

Who would plough the fields? Who would slaughter their cattle? Who would do any of the menial work that would still need to be done to maintain anything like a western lifestyle?

The whole point of these papers and books is to point out the disparity between the way of life enjoyed by us in the "West" and the impossibility of making that lifestyle universal. There just aren't enough resources to go around. So saying that the world can only support 1 billion people living a western lifestyle is not the same as saying we should kill the other 6 billion people. It is actually saying that we in the west consume too much. That maybe we should think about what effect we are having on the rest of the world and maybe cut down a little on the excess consumption...

Its very simple why they want to cut down the population, they want power. they cant control 6-7 billion people in a police state. they just want power, they already have money. And as i quoted, they talk about killing people in the document, they do not say it, but cutting the world's food production in half like they talk about, would certainly produce massive starvation and pestilence and cut human population by at least half. I think you are smart enough to understand that. And what do you think of what UN is doing? they have sterilized thousands of people without their knowledge, a fact that people in this thread do not like to talk about together with all UN pedofile scandals and that governments have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations without their knowledge (which has resulted in many deaths) in order to advance the progress of eugenics.

[Gravy]

Hi, I've been out looking for teh burning crazy. Has anyone seen it?

Oh, here it is.

[tomwaits]

Its very simple why they want to cut down the population, they want power. they cant control 6-7 billion people in a police state. they just want power, they already have money. .

In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.

[Sporanox]

ts very simple why they want to cut down the population, they want power. they cant control 6-7 billion people in a police state. they just want power, they already have money. And as i quoted, they talk about killing people in the document, they do not say it, but cutting the world's food production in half like they talk about

Ooh! He admitted that they actually DON'T TALK ABOUT KILLING PEOPLE IN THE DOCUMENT!

Now let's go the next step and realize that they're talking about HELPING people in third world countries to be nourished!

Go go go Malmoe! :D

[Brainache]

...

Its very simple why they want to cut down the population, they want power. they cant control 6-7 billion people in a police state. they just want power, they already have money. And as i quoted, they talk about killing people in the document, they do not say it, but cutting the world's food production in half like they talk about, would certainly produce massive starvation and pestilence and cut human population by at least half. I think you are smart enough to understand that. And what do you think of what UN is doing? they have sterilized thousands of people without their knowledge, a fact that people in this thread do not like to talk about together with all UN pedofile scandals and that governments have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations without their knowledge (which has resulted in many deaths) in order to advance the progress of eugenics.

So they want power and power is all they want, but they only want power over 1 billion, not 7 billion.

They want to halve the world's food production while at the same time funding famine relief programs etc?

I must admit I haven't heard about all those UN pedofile scandals, but if Alex Jones says it, it must be true! Just in case though, do you have a source for that? Preferably not PrisonPlanet.

So all these deadly pathogens etc that governments are always testing on populations all the time must be killing millions. I haven't noticed the piles of rotting corpses clogging the streets around here, where are they doing this?

The progress of Eugenics? Is that like the advancement of Phrenology?

[hellaeon]

I did source it in my first post. This has happen many times.

UNICEF Nigerian Polio Vaccine Contaminated with Sterilizing Agents Scientist Finds: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/mar/04031101.html




U.N. Complicit in Forced Sterilizations: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73780,00.html

Virginia governor apologizes for eugenics law: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/05/02/virginia-eugenics.htm



I will read harry potter instead, that book has as much to do with this as hers.



So how come united nations rapes children and has sex rings and pedofile scandals, and sterilized THOUSANDS of people without their knowledge. How come governments have tested deadly pathogens, viruses, radiological and biological weapons on human populations without their knowledge (which has resulted in many deaths) in order to advance the progress of eugenics. How come you ignore everything i have writen in this thread?.

"so how come united nations support medicine and food drops to third world countries?"

way to think inside the box. How come every nazi soldier didnt hate blacks and jews?... every politician in UN and the world is not part of a conspiracy.

I may think inside the box :rolleyes:, but the keyword is I actually think.

You do realise the UN is not a secular group and that its resources are provided by various countries? So with that in mind any UN operations that go bad are because they planned these operations, because it was schemed 30 years ago...?

Actually provide some evidence of said bad eggs. That might help you understand the UN a bit better.
I am assuming your an anti vaccinne advocate?

[stateofgrace]

Whose "plan" is this: the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Jews, oh wait nevermind the UN. Just pick a group to scapegoat and the truthers will salivate at the mouths.

Everybody, I guess,oh wait.........

Rothschilds, Rockefellers, UN, CFR, Skull and bones, etc are all connected, working for the same goal.

Yep, everybody.

Apart from Malmoe, of course

[Gravy]

Everybody, I guess,oh wait.........

Yep, everybody.

Apart from Malmoe, of courseDon't forget these guys:

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/Unit-Midgets.jpg

[Alareth]

Tiny cars are filled with much evil.

[Stellafane]

Funny, I'm actually in favor of reducing the earth's population 80%. Not all at once mind you, but gradually over the course of generations, by keeping the birth rate down. That way the planet's resources could be a lot more sustainable, and we'd still have a population more than double what it was just a few hundred years ago. Personally, I always thought it made a lot of sense.

Look at that, I'm NWO and never even realized it. Perfidious bastards, they get you one way or another -- if they can't reach you through conspiracies and chemtrails, they'll seduce you with good ideas.

[BenBurch]

You know who really hates Nazis and their sympathizers? The ADL.

Good catch! But, true or not, irrelevant. :)

[BenBurch]

Question for you to, Do you think cutting the worlds population by 70-80% would be a good thing, yes or no

An excellent thing if we are not going to address the end of oil, anyway, because the Die Off will come whether we do it by birth control or whether it happens by starvation, exposure, and disease. And in any case we seem to be beyond the carrying capacity of our ecosystem here, so backing off on births is wise no matter what. I believe we need to attempt to stabilize the world's population at around two billion.

[BenBurch]

I'm dated by counting the rings in my legs. Or something like that.

Those are the only dates I get at my age! ;)

[tomwaits]

Don't forget these guys:

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/Unit-Midgets.jpg

lol, my grandpa is a shriner. it's just a bunch of old guys that raise money for their hospitals. i always give him a hard time about it though:

me: soooo how's controlling the world?
him: *laughs* john, you are out of your mind.

[BenBurch]

lol, my grandpa is a shriner. it's just a bunch of old guys that raise money for their hospitals. i always give him a hard time about it though:

me: soooo how's controlling the world?
him: *laughs* john, you are out of your mind.

But WOW, can those guys tear up a hotel when they have their convention!

[Brainache]

I wonder if Malmoe can tell us just what the population of the Earth should be? A sustainable stable population? 1 billion? 2 billion? ... 10 billion? What number should we be aiming for to avoid catastrophe, or should we just keep on adding more and more people forever?

[tomwaits]

But WOW, can those guys tear up a hotel when they have their convention!

I'm sure he goes to those too. He also does charity volunteer work at minor league baseball games and plays tambourine in the "oriental band" (which generates a lot of laughs in our family).

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Its very simple why they want to cut down the population, they want power. they cant control 6-7 billion people in a police state. they just want power, they already have money.


Dude, OK... I'm sorry... but that's retarded. If they can't control the current population, killing 80% of them isn't going to help, because they're also killing the very people they would need to maintain control.

[Corsair 115]

Birth control is murder? Who knew?

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

[BenBurch]

Namby-pamby! I demand 90%!

If we go on as we have been, you'll get it, too.

But you know, I really hope it does not come to that, because I can imagine Bad Things happening as nations try to acquire the last of the oil, by force if necessary!

A dying civilization having a full nuclear exchange over the last drops of ancient sunlight.

Maybe THIS is why we don't hear any aliens out there?

Maybe nobody gets past this point.

[PixyMisa]

Malmoe, I'll make my point more explicit.

You claim that for decades, a powerful and secretive group has been working to kill 80% of the world population. You have quotes (that may or may not be accurate) that you say demonstrate this agenda, dating back to at least 1973.

In 1973, the world population was a little less than 4 billion. Today, it's over 6.5 billion. That puts your murderous cabal 5.7 billion behind schedule. Over a similar period, food production per capita has increased around 25%; not only are there more people in the world, but they each getting more to eat.

Given this profound incompetence, what do we have to fear from the NWO?

Here's yet another quote, via Wikipedia:

Biologist Paul R. Ehrlich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._Ehrlich) wrote in his 1968 bestseller The Population Bomb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Population_Bomb), "The battle to feed all of humanity is over... In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now." Ehrlich also said, "I have yet to meet anyone familiar with the situation who thinks India will be self-sufficient in food by 1971," and "India couldn't possibly feed two hundred million more people by 1980."

Of course, this didn't happen. Why? Norman Borlaug. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug)

[Pardalis]

Don't forget these guys:

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/Unit-Midgets.jpg

See that blue trailer behind?...

Enough said. :cool:

[tsig]

Question for you to, Do you think cutting the worlds population by 70-80% would be a good thing, yes or no

Yes, are you volunteering?

[tsig]

Rothschilds, Rockefellers, UN, CFR, Skull and bones, etc are all connected, working for the same goal.

he shoots! he scooores!!

[tsig]

And clearly the Chiefs have not been included in the planning. :p

One thing the Chiefs have going for them is that you can only run so far in 60 minutes.

[Jensen]

There has been a new development in the UN today.

A group of even more powerful men than Malmoesoldiers conspirators, has conspired to overthrow the old genocide-conspiracy. The new and improved conspiracy wants to double the worlds population within the next few decades. Their motive is so evil and twisted that I can't even begin to explain it to you.

If you don't believe me look it up yourself. Oh...and think outside the box too.

[MG1962]

I know I am a bit late arriving at this thread - but the one question that popped into my head - Will the UN do this extermination before or after all the member countries pay their dues

I mean there are light bills, stationary, heating costs and stuff that all will still have to be paid for..........yes?

Or am I just being silly

And do we know if the UN are taking requests - there is this annoying little football team from Dallas I wouldn't mind seeing put out of action for a while

[timhau]

I don't know why we keep on going with this. No matter how you cut it to Malmoe, he always believes that the UN publicly revealed their plot of mass destruction (PMD) to us some thirty years or so before they were going to actually do it, so we could...prevent it? Uhh, okay.

And of course this plot also includes the evil measures of feeding starving children.

Actually, I think the technical term for this is 'fattening them up'.

[Sporanox]

Actually, I think the technical term for this is 'fattening them up'.

Well. I suppose we'll hear reports of UN gingerbread "relief" houses anytime now...

[funk de fino]

So you didnt read the UN Conference on Human Settlements (Habitat I) in 1976?. I feel sorry for you that you have such a hard time understanding text, please dont post before you understand what the facts say. ask somebody to read it for you, if you cant read.

Please keep the tone civil

I've seen everything you have posted and most of it has been misquotes because you are copying from other fantasy sites and the rest of it is lies that you keep repeating. When I go to the links you provide they are mostly truther sites and then we see how you have cherry picked stuff and fail to understand what is there in front of your own eyes. Now you even post to mass media sites that you think support you. I thought the mass media was brainwashing us? You need to go back to english lessons as I feel it is seriously affecting your ability to comprehend what you read.

You have not shown anywhere that the govt wants to kill 80% of the population and I see you have even admitted so in an earlier post. Your earlier claim is now false then.

[JimBenArm]

One thing the Chiefs have going for them is that you can only run so far in 60 minutes.
And they are trying to see just how far that is.

[Malmoesoldier]

I must admit I haven't heard about all those UN pedofile scandals, So all these deadly pathogens etc that governments are always testing on populations all the time must be killing millions. I haven't noticed the piles of rotting corpses clogging the streets around here, where are they doing this?

Do you think it will take a couple of years for theme to reduce the population in big numbers? offcourse not, its not something you can do just like that. And yes they have killed many people, but if its not a couple of billion it dont count right? then its not killing?. besides all the deadly pathogens etc they have killed many people in war, they funded hitler if they hadnt done that hitler wouldnt have killed so many people that he did. But they will never reduce the population in big numbers trust me, we will have revolution before that.

Ooh! He admitted that they actually DON'T TALK ABOUT KILLING PEOPLE IN THE DOCUMENT!

Now let's go the next step and realize that they're talking about HELPING people in third world countries to be nourished!

Go go go Malmoe! :D

Are you saying that cutting the world's food production in half wouldn produce massive starvation and pestilence and cut human population by at least half?.

Keep ignoring the facts and that UN has sterilized hundred thousands of people without their knowledge, but most of you in this thread stands for that.

Keep it civil and do not attack other posters.

[8den]

Punk you are nobody i the street,

Yes you are the street. I wish I was tough, and hadn't gone to school.

[Malmoesoldier]

Yes you are the street. I wish I was tough, and hadn't gone to school.

Its good to go to school, but its not good to spend to much time there, you get brainwashed, they dont teach history. Poor people that dont go to school often know much more about how things work then people in school. mathematics etc dont get you smart, to know history and what happens in the world that makes you smart.

[MG1962]

. besides all the deadly pathogens etc they have killed many people in war, they funded hitler if they hadnt done that hitler wouldnt have killed so many people that he did. But they will never reduce the population in big numbers trust me, we will have revolution before that.

Umm - just so I know - the UN funded Hitler?

[8den]

Umm - just so I know - the UN funded Hitler?

Particularly funny in the light of this comment;


to know history and what happens in the world that makes you smart.

[technoextreme]

Umm - just so I know - the UN funded Hitler?
I think you have just won this thread. But of course everyone knows that the UN was a shadow organization before it went public.

[Dave Rogers]

But of course everyone knows that the UN was a shadow organization before it went public.

You mean they used to shoot down flying saucers?

Dave

[Malmoesoldier]

Umm - just so I know - the UN funded Hitler?

I didnt say that. but i did say who funded hitler some pages back in this thread.

[PixyMisa]

Do you think it will take a couple of years for theme to reduce the population in big numbers? offcourse not, its not something you can do just like that.
Right. Unless they start an all-out nuclear war, it would take decades. And a nuclear war wouldn't leave much behind for them to rule.

Are you saying that cutting the world's food production in half wouldn produce massive starvation and pestilence and cut human population by at least half?
Well, there's a small problem here. The world's food production hasn't been cut in half. Over the last three decades, it's increased by about 150%.

I'll say it again: If they've been working for decades to kill off 80% of the world's population, they're really bad at it. I'd be more worried about my cholesterol level if I were you.

[funk de fino]

But they will never reduce the population in big numbers trust me, we will have revolution before that.

Go ahead then, do something instead of sitting tapping away on the keyboard like a little jessie

You couldnt start a car never mind a revolution


Are you saying that cutting the world's food production in half wouldn produce massive starvation and pestilence and cut human population by at least half?. Turn of your television, you have a childlike mind like the rest of the people in this thread, cant think for yourself.

That is not what you claimed you said you have proof that the govt was going to kill 80% of the population all you have is cherrty picked quotes that do not say what you think they say. Dont blame us for your lack of education and the fact you have to copy everything from stupid sites like alex jones.

Keep ignoring the facts and that UN has sterilized hundred thousands of people without their knowledge, but most of you in this thread stands for that.

Liar, they have not done this, again you do not read your own links. It was a voluntary program. If some people were coerced into by criminals for money this does not mean it was a forced program by the UN. Who did the forcing? Show me the quotes from your own link. None of us stand for anything you have claimed, we are just exposing your lies and ignorance.

Punk you are nobody i the street, you only stand for what you stand for under your bed and behind a computer, you are all geeky-weak minded fools that has spendt to much time in school and at looking at television. keep on with your tactics and joke and ignore facts. and lets start with your families, you can go first if we need to reduce the population that much.

Now you really look like a stroppy teenager. I went to school and college and have fought in two campaigns in the forces. Does that make me geeky? I have been to more foreign countries than you can ever dream of and in fact I am now in Libya. Cant find any 911 truthers though.

When was the last time you left your country(or town even)?

[Dave Rogers]

I didnt say that. but i did say who funded hitler some pages back in this thread.

I seem to remember you saying it was FDR and Prescott Bush, and that you thought maybe he organised Pearl Harbor because Hitler had refused to do what they said. Then you told me I didn't know anything about history. Then my irony meter exploded.

Dave

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Its good to go to school, but its not good to spend to much time there, you get brainwashed, they dont teach history. Poor people that dont go to school often know much more about how things work then people in school. mathematics etc dont get you smart, to know history and what happens in the world that makes you smart.
Apparently, the "school of the street" doesn't teach grammar.

[defaultdotxbe]

I'll say it again: If they've been working for decades to kill off 80% of the world's population, they're really bad at it.
http://math.berkeley.edu/~galen/popclk.html

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Implementing a negative population growth trend is not the same as killing people off to reduce the population.

[JimBenArm]

Implementing a negative population growth trend is not the same as killing people off to reduce the population.
Damn. I was so looking forward to implementing the death camps, too!

Now what will I do for summer vacation?

[JamesB]

Its good to go to school, but its not good to spend to much time there, you get brainwashed, they dont teach history. Poor people that dont go to school often know much more about how things work then people in school. mathematics etc dont get you smart, to know history and what happens in the world that makes you smart.

They don't teach history? Odd, then why did I have to take all of those history tests in college?

[technoextreme]

They don't teach history? Odd, then why did I have to take all of those history tests in college?
What he meant to say is that anything that goes against his reality is an attempt at brainwashing even if it's true.

[tomwaits]

I think Malmo is actually Charles Spiesel from the Clay Shaw trial!


http://www.jfk-online.com/spiesel.html
. . . Dymond introduced into evidence a copy of Spiesel's complaint Number 32,001, marked US Court of Appeals, against the Pinkerton Detective Agency and numerous other defendants. The lawyer then took his place in front of the jury and, speaking into a microphone, read portions of the suit, which claimed the defendants, during a period from January 1, 1948, to July 5, 1964, a total of sixteen years, had used a new police technique to torture him and conspired with others to torture the plaintiff in New York, New Jersey, Washington, DC, New Orleans and various other places. Spiesel claimed these defendants also harassed him, annoyed, tailed him, tapped his phones, and prevented him from having normal sex relations. . . . The defendants also kept him hypnotized for periods of time, caused him to make errors in his work because of their hypnotic control, wreaked psychological terror upon him, prevented him from making business deals and from borrowing money from public agencies, surrounded him with competitors in the tax return business, and hired "plants" to work in his office, who then acted intoxicated and annoyed and frightened his customers.

[PixyMisa]

They don't teach history? Odd, then why did I have to take all of those history tests in college?
Well, you know how it goes. Those who do not study history are condemned to repeat it next semester.

[defaultdotxbe]

I think Malmo is actually Charles Spiesel from the Clay Shaw trial!


http://www.jfk-online.com/spiesel.html
that sounds like one of ChrisA's lawsuits

[Malmoesoldier]

Go ahead then, do something instead of sitting tapping away on the keyboard like a little jessie

You couldnt start a car never mind a revolution




That is not what you claimed you said you have proof that the govt was going to kill 80% of the population all you have is cherrty picked quotes that do not say what you think they say. Dont blame us for your lack of education and the fact you have to copy everything from stupid sites like alex jones.



Liar, they have not done this, again you do not read your own links. It was a voluntary program. If some people were coerced into by criminals for money this does not mean it was a forced program by the UN. Who did the forcing? Show me the quotes from your own link. None of us stand for anything you have claimed, we are just exposing your lies and ignorance.



Now you really look like a stroppy teenager. I went to school and college and have fought in two campaigns in the forces. Does that make me geeky? I have been to more foreign countries than you can ever dream of and in fact I am now in Libya. Cant find any 911 truthers though.

When was the last time you left your country(or town even)?

Please stop posting your BS. I did give you proof, they openly say the world cant support more then 1-2 billion and that they want to cut the food production in half, that is plans to killing 80% of the population. And come and call me a lier to my face please. do you live in sweden?

They did sterilize people without their knowledge.

UNICEF Nigerian Polio Vaccine Contaminated with Sterilizing Agents Scientist Finds

Felipa Cusi went to a rural clinic because she was suffering from symptoms of the flu. After being anesthetized, she was sterilized without her knowledge. Some women died as a result of such surgery. Magna Morales was kidnapped by health workers and sterilized at a makeshift clinic. Without follow-up medical care, she died 10 days later.

Virginia forcibly sterilized about 7,450 people under the banner of eugenics, or selective human breeding and social engineering.

There are believed to be more than 60,000 eugenics victims nationwide.

This has happen many times in the past to, and it happens all the time. do some research.

[timhau]

They don't teach history? Odd, then why did I have to take all of those history tests in college?

To make sure you have no idea what REALLY HAPPENS. The street people know.

[timhau]

Virginia forcibly sterilized about 7,450 people under the banner of eugenics, or selective human breeding and social engineering.

In over 50 years, starting from the 1920s. The state has about 7 million inhabitants today.

While tragic, that's got to be the most incompetently managed genocide ever.

[defaultdotxbe]

This has happen many times in the past to, and it happens all the time. do some research.
id ask you to post sources fro those articles, but i already found them, suffice to say im not impressed

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/mar/04031101.html

http://www.ifeminists.com/introduction/editorials/2002/1224.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/05/02/virginia-eugenics.htm

[Dave Rogers]

What he meant to say is that anything that goes against his reality is an attempt at brainwashing even if it's true.

I think Malmoesoldier is a classic example of a CT fundamentalist. His bible is PrisonPlanet and InfoWars. In his world view, the information in PrisonPlanet is correct because PrisonPlanet says it's correct, just like everything in the Bible is literally true because the Bible says so. Everything that disagrees with his reality is either a lie, or, by some incomprehensible shift in perception, actually supports his reality even though it clearly doesn't. Anybody who holds an opinion which doesn't agree with Alex Jones's is a mindless sheep, and only those who slavishly follow the Jones party line and repeat his mantras are the truly independent. It goes far beyond a flawed world view to the point of a perversion of language; even his words are redefined to suit his world view. Thus, "History" means a system of beliefs that agrees with the chosen conspiracy theory, "smart" means being able to repeat the chosen conspiracy theory and pretend conflicting sources agree with it, and "ignoring facts" means being able to perceive that facts disagree with the chosen conspiracy theory. This is why I think it's useless even to try to interact with him; the things we think we're saying mean their complete opposite by the time they've passed through his mental filters, so there isn't even the possibility of communication. And so we descend into ridicule, because there's nothing else to do or say. I'd put him on ignore, except for my morbid curiosity as to what he will say next.

And this forum seems to attract his ilk, like moths to a candle flame.

Dave

[afinemadness]

Now you really look like a stroppy teenager. I went to school and college and have fought in two campaigns in the forces. Does that make me geeky? I have been to more foreign countries than you can ever dream of and in fact I am now in Libya. Cant find any 911 truthers though.

When was the last time you left your country(or town even)?

I bet he never gets out of the basement.

BTW Malmoe trust me you are not more street than I am. I grew up in the inner city in NJ and then spent 4 years as an EMT and Paramedic in two of the largest city's in the state. I saw things that would make you sit in the corner and cry.

[tomwaits]

I saw things that would make you sit in the corner and cry.

you mean like a syringe? :eek: that's how they sterilize you!!!

[afinemadness]

you mean like a syringe? :eek: that's how they sterilize you!!!
That and do you really think that what you get is oxygen? It was a mixture of a gas to make you believe the company line with an extra ingredient to make you sterile.

[funk de fino]

Please stop posting your BS. I did give you proof, they openly say the world cant support more then 1-2 billion and that they want to cut the food production in half, that is plans to killing 80% of the population. And come and call me a lier to my face please. do you live in sweden?

That is not the govt and it does not say they will kill 80%, you are wrong and repeating lies again. You specifically said the GOVT, you lied

You are a liar. This is not to your face, but I would do it if I could. I have been to Sweden many times and I loved it, not as nice as Denmark though but very nice. You shame your country with your ignorance.

They did sterilize people without their knowledge.

Thats not what your quotes say is it. read them, the UN take no responsibility for the few times it allegedly happened. They were voluntary programs and people volunteered to make money. If a few rogues took advantage of this you cannot blame the UN and it was not hundreds thousands as you have claimed. The UN implemented a voluntary program end of story.

This has happen many times in the past to, and it happens all the time. do some research.

You do some research of your own. You are copying liars and fools. You have no original thoughts of your own you are a puppet of the liars like jones

[defaultdotxbe]

i think by the time the NWO reaches their 80% extermination goal the 20% thats left will be like 6 billion people

[Horatius]

They did sterilize people without their knowledge.

UNICEF Nigerian Polio Vaccine Contaminated with Sterilizing Agents Scientist Finds





Or, maybe they didn't (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1140666):

But another medical delegation sent by the Nigerian government to South Africa to carry out tests on the vaccine has challenged the report ,which it says is false and alarming, claiming that its own findings shows the vaccines to be safe.

Professor Umaru Shehu, who conducted a similar test in South Africa on behalf of the Nigerian government, dismissed Dr Kaita's claims on the vaccines.

"The best methods and equipment were used, and no such thing as Dr Kaita described were found in the vaccines," he said.

Professor Shehu said the test at the University of Pretoria in South Africa corroborates earlier tests carried out on the vaccines in Nigeria, which found the vaccines safe and free of foreign substances


http://www.sabcnews.com/sci_tech/science/0,2172,73761,00.html

However, Nigerian Professor Umaru Shehu said a test at the University of Pretoria in South Africa corroborates earlier tests carried out on the vaccines in Nigeria, which found the vaccines safe and free of foreign substances. He called the claims false and alarming.

...

Professor Shehu, who conducted his test on behalf of the Nigerian government, dismissed Dr Kaita’s fears, saying "the best methods and equipment were used, and no such thing as Dr Kaita described were found in the vaccines."

...

In the meantime, Nigeria continues to be the biggest source of polio infection in Africa, severely hampering efforts to eradicate polio around the globe within two years.






This has happen many times in the past to, and it happens all the time. do some research.



Isn't it interesting that every time I "do some research", I find things that contradict your "proven" accusations.

Here's the thing: These CTists claim that these "contaminated" drugs were given to millions of kids. So, how many of these kids have turned up as infertile? If what you're saying is true, it should be almost all of them - which would be trivially easy to demonstrate.

So why don't you get busy and show us that, rather than stories promoted almost exclusively by CT websites?

[abenja1]

What I don't get is, that UNICEF supposedly sterilizing children made the Mainstream Media, which is supposedly incohoots with the gov't.... OH I get it. If the Mainstream Meida reports on news that is in your favor, then it's ok, if it's not, then MSM is EVILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL AND WORKING TO KILL US TOO. That brings me to my 2nd point. If they want to kill us, then no one's going to watch the news to give them their precious blood.... I mean ratings, therefore news outlets get no money.

[Dave Rogers]

What I don't get is, that UNICEF supposedly sterilizing children made the Mainstream Media, which is supposedly incohoots with the gov't....

What I don't get is that, if UNICEF is sterilising the entire third world, where's the need to kill anyone?

Dave

[Malmoesoldier]

That is not the govt and it does not say they will kill 80%, you are wrong and repeating lies again. You specifically said the GOVT, you lied

You are a liar. This is not to your face, but I would do it if I could. I have been to Sweden many times and I loved it, not as nice as Denmark though but very nice. You shame your country with your ignorance.



Thats not what your quotes say is it. read them, the UN take no responsibility for the few times it allegedly happened. They were voluntary programs and people volunteered to make money. If a few rogues took advantage of this you cannot blame the UN and it was not hundreds thousands as you have claimed. The UN implemented a voluntary program end of story.



You do some research of your own. You are copying liars and fools. You have no original thoughts of your own you are a puppet of the liars like jones

No you wouldnt say it to my face. I know you have a problem reading, They do say that the world could only be 1-2 billion thats what the quote says if you did read the quote you know it yourself, and i know you also understand that cutting the worlds food production in half like they talk about would kill at least half of the human population, so stop acting like a child please. and why do you mention alex jones all the time, its getting real annoying, you dont know anything about him anyway, how often do you listen to his radio show or whatever? you only read on some propaganda sites and knows that he thinks 9-11 is an inside job, therefore you call him a lier, i actually look things up i hear him say. you dont even listen to him, so how can you look anything up that he says and see if its true or not. you are a joke. You wont even admit that NIST hasnt explained the collapse of WTC1-2-7, thats how full of BS you are. You are a lier, and the only source you trust is the news.

There is compelling evidence that the United Nations collaborated in the forced sterilization of poor, rural women in Peru from 1995 to 1997

Obs... you missed that part?

The United Nations, the Clinton administration, and Peruvian and Japanese nongovernmental organizations were responsible for thousands of forced sterilizations under the government of Alberto Fujimori.

Peruvian parliamentarian Hector Chávez Chuchón told a congressional subcommittee how the United Nations, the U.S. Agency for International Development, and powerful NGOs financed the National Program for Family Planning.

This program included the Voluntary Surgical Contraception campaign, in which 300,000 women were sterilized, many of whom had not given their consent

Eighteen women subjected to forced sterilization during the campaign died.

Virginia forcibly sterilized about 7,450 people under the banner of eugenics, or selective human breeding and social engineering.

There are believed to be more than 60,000 eugenics victims nationwide.

[Malmoesoldier]

What I don't get is that, if UNICEF is sterilising the entire third world, where's the need to kill anyone?

Dave

It is much you dont understand when you think inside a box. pick up some books someday.

[Dave Rogers]

It is much you dont understand when you think inside a box. pick up some books someday.

You're claiming to know quite a lot about me based on no information other than the fact that I don't agree with your conclusions. Is all your understanding based on such an inadequate data set?

Dave

[DGM]

It is much you dont understand when you think inside a box. pick up some books someday.
This coming from the person that refuses to read the book he got his quotes from. Kind of sad.

[Dave Rogers]

This coming from the person that refuse to read the book he got his quotes from. Kind of sad.

You're thinking inside the box. He said pick up some books. He didn't say anything about reading them.

Dave

[DGM]

You're thinking inside the box. He said pick up some books. He didn't say anything about reading them.

Dave
Ah thanks, Maybe that's my problem. I like to open them and take a look inside.

[Malmoesoldier]

This coming from the person that refuses to read the book he got his quotes from. Kind of sad.

I got it from a document. i dont want to read a book that has nothing to do with that document. How is it going with your religion by the way, how many words have you given a new meaning by now?

[JimBenArm]

I got it from a document. i dont want to read a book that has nothing to do with that document. How is it going with your religion by the way, how many words have you given a new meaning by now?
I like you. You're silly.

[tomwaits]

by the way, how many words have you given a new meaning by now?

derailification

[DGM]

I got it from a document. i dont want to read a book that has nothing to do with that document. How is it going with your religion by the way, how many words have you given a new meaning by now?
How about Dr. Michael Coffman's book? Should you read that?

[mrbaracuda]

Its good to go to school, but its not good to spend to much time there, you get brainwashed, they dont teach history. Poor people that dont go to school often know much more about how things work then people in school. mathematics etc dont get you smart, to know history and what happens in the world that makes you smart.

Don't the LC guys also have a similar history? I wonder if they serve as a role-model for people like Malmoesoldier and even advocate that in their forums. "Drop out of school! Join the Trooth-Movement! Become an expert on everything, without the need to study anything but the internets! Let Alex Jones pay for your lifestyle! Now, buy our T-shirts!"

Oh and hello thar, JREF-Forums! :blush:

they say that a world with the present north American material standard of living cant support 5-7 billion people.

And how many people live like north Americans? Oh right. Counting in the poor people, that would make something around 330 million people in north America. I sure know that we here in Europe don't live like northern Americans and the rest of the world, especially the very crowded countries? Well, I don't think they live like that either. So yea, I guess the world can take some more, can't it? :confused:

But wait, they are actually trying to improve the living standard of those poor people around the world by feeding them or providing modern technology to them, aren't they? :jaw-dropp

[...]they have killed many people in war, they funded hitler if they hadnt done that hitler wouldnt have killed so many people that he did.

Gee, I wonder who funded Stalin and if there's any ties to the UN.. err, I mean, NWO. Enlighten me please, Malmoesoldier. Who funded Stalin? Was it the Zionists, using the Bolshevik? Who was it? :confused:

But they will never reduce the population in big numbers trust me, we will have revolution before that.

Does that mean people like you will assume power over the world? :eye-poppi
I think I'll stay in my box then.. :boxedin:


Oh and by the way, I came to the conclusion that the European youth and young adults really are full of troothers akin to Malmoesoldier. Quite sad actually. What surprised me though, is that almost all of them are also leftists, at least here in Germany.

[JimBenArm]

Hi there, mrbarracuda! Welcome to the JREF forums!

[mrbaracuda]

Hi there, mrbarracuda! Welcome to the JREF forums!

Hi! I was going to post a smiley that's waving, but alas, I can't post links unless I got 15 posts. I guess that's a good way to discourage certain people from spreading certain things in a drive-by fashion. Haven't seen that one before.
Was the additional r intentional btw? :boggled: :D

I forgot to ask Malmoesoldier something very important: What are Sweden's ties to the NWO? What part did your high quality steel play so far? :confused:

[JimBenArm]

Hi! I was going to post a smiley that's waving, but alas, I can't post links unless I got 15 posts. I guess that's a good way to discourage certain people from spreading certain things in a drive-by fashion. Haven't seen that one before.
Was the additional r intentional btw? :boggled: :D

I forgot to ask Malmoesoldier something very important: What are Sweden's ties to the NWO? What part did your high quality steel play so far? :confused:
Erp. No, it wasn't. Sorry.

[timhau]

I forgot to ask Malmoesoldier something very important: What are Sweden's ties to the NWO? What part did your high quality steel play so far? :confused:

Well, they are a monarchy, which means their royal family probably has some ties to the Windsors. That, in turn, means that they're shape-shifting lizards from outer space (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_humanoid#David_Icke).

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Damn. I was so looking forward to implementing the death camps, too!

Now what will I do for summer vacation?
They're not mutually exclusive you know. :degrin:

[technoextreme]

It is much you dont understand when you think inside a box. pick up some books someday.
If I hear one more moronic platitude Im going to stuff someone inside a box.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

I like you. You're silly.
Give your avatar, I read that with this voice in mind http://www-personal.umich.edu/~rorder/mindy.gif

[timhau]

If I hear one more moronic platitude Im going to stuff someone inside a box.

Watch it. Don't you realize that you're talking to someone who could take on all the SWAT teams in Sweden single-handedly?

[mrbaracuda]

Well, they are a monarchy, which means their royal family probably has some ties to the Windsors. That, in turn, means that they're shape-shifting lizards from outer space[/URL].

Good enough, but what about the high quality steel it could provide not only during the dark ages? :confused: Better steel = better ability to maim and kill the enemy! I think Sweden's neutrality is a scam and Malmoesoldier is trying to divert our attention away from Sweden, the real shadow gvt that's pulling the strings here. Or, he's just a sheep that has to be awoken and doesn't even know what its doing. :boxedin:

What's your take on that one, Malmoesoldier? :confused:

[JimBenArm]

Give your avatar, I read that with this voice in mind http://www-personal.umich.edu/~rorder/mindy.gif
Yeah, it fits, doesn't it!
"Whatcha doin' Mr. Man?"

[Malmoesoldier]

Don't the LC guys also have a similar history? I wonder if they serve as a role-model for people like Malmoesoldier and even advocate that in their forums. "Drop out of school! Join the Trooth-Movement! Become an expert on everything, without the need to study anything but the internets! Let Alex Jones pay for your lifestyle! Now, buy our T-shirts!"

Oh and hello thar, JREF-Forums! :blush:



And how many people live like north Americans? Oh right. Counting in the poor people, that would make something around 330 million people in north America. I sure know that we here in Europe don't live like northern Americans and the rest of the world, especially the very crowded countries? Well, I don't think they live like that either. So yea, I guess the world can take some more, can't it? :confused:

But wait, they are actually trying to improve the living standard of those poor people around the world by feeding them or providing modern technology to them, aren't they? :jaw-dropp



Gee, I wonder who funded Stalin and if there's any ties to the UN.. err, I mean, NWO. Enlighten me please, Malmoesoldier. Who funded Stalin? Was it the Zionists, using the Bolshevik? Who was it? :confused:



Does that mean people like you will assume power over the world? :eye-poppi
I think I'll stay in my box then.. :boxedin:


Oh and by the way, I came to the conclusion that the European youth and young adults really are full of troothers akin to Malmoesoldier. Quite sad actually. What surprised me though, is that almost all of them are also leftists, at least here in Germany.

They say that a world with european standards could only be 2 billion people. only very sick people stands for something like that, if you think that then you are NOT sane.

Offcourse UN gives food to poor countries. that doesnt change any facts does it. everybody in UN isnt evil, its just the people at the top that knows the agenda and the people under theme has no idea. besides the good things UN has done in the world there are many bad things they have done, forced sterilization, UN peacekeeper officers rapes 12 year old girls and get no charges, alot of pedofile scandals. The Burmese army killed two thousand people and drove thirty thousand from their homes to make way for a United Nations biosphere sanctuary. the majority of things that has to do with UN is bad, there are many good books writen about UN you should take a look at. the rockefellers helped to fund the united nations.

"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history." -David Rockefeller 1973 (NY Times 8-10-73)


Good, normal, honest people like ron paul WILL be in power. people that just follow orders that dont question authority that dont know anymore history then what school teaches or thinks NWO is a good thing has a dark future.

[TriskettheKid]

Good, normal, honest people like ron paul WILL be in power. people that just follow orders that dont question authority that dont know anymore history then what school teaches or thinks NWO is a good thing has a dark future.

Uh....huh.

And what makes you so sure about Ron Paul?

[Mister Agenda]

My impression from Bantu refugees from Somalia is that many of them would have liked easy birth control. To quote Mumina when we showed her the bedroom she and her husband would be sharing: "No sleep same room. No more babies!" She had six children who survived to reach the USA. Once explained, she happily adopted a contraception method (I wasn't privy to exactly what it was). The average number of children in a Somali family is eight. Would Somalis have 2.4 children if they had ready access to contraception? I doubt it. I seriously doubt they would continue to average eight, though.

[JimBenArm]

Good, normal, honest people like ron paul WILL be in power. people that just follow orders that dont question authority that dont know anymore history then what school teaches or thinks NWO is a good thing has a dark future.
:dl:
Ron Paul? Seriously?
I have a better chance than he does.
Good? Normal? Honest? Dude, he's a politician, he'd sell his grandmother for 10 votes and a $1000 donation!
Sheesh, and we're naive...

[BenBurch]

:dl:
Ron Paul? Seriously?
I have a better chance than he does.
Good? Normal? Honest? Dude, he's a politician, he'd sell his grandmother for 10 votes and a $1000 donation!
Sheesh, and we're naive...

He doesn't know! He doesn't know that Ron Paul is the very embodiment of every one of his fears about the NWO. Because if we elect him, he will be the very monster you fear in your dreams. And that is not only because he is insane, but also because he is not showing you his real intentions. And they are not good intentions.

[Lopakhin]

OH I get it. If the Mainstream Meida reports on news that is in your favor, then it's ok, if it's not, then MSM is EVILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL AND WORKING TO KILL US TOO.

Yes - note in particular the way Malmo has just decided that Fox News is, let us say, a 'fair and balanced' media source, when its agenda coincides with his, i.e. bashing the UN and supporting the Bush Administration's anti-abortion stance. I'm taking a wild guess that he doesn't agree with their take on the Iraq war (a quick look at other posts of his on this site confirms that), and would consider it part of the NWO when it's supporting that war.

[DGM]

He doesn't know! He doesn't know that Ron Paul is the very embodiment of every one of his fears about the NWO. Because if we elect him, he will be the very monster you fear in your dreams. And that is not only because he is insane, but also because he is not showing you his real intentions. And they are not good intentions.
Say it Ben. He's a republican.:eek:

[sophia8]

The Burmese army killed two thousand people and drove thirty thousand from their homes to make way for a United Nations biosphere sanctuary.
This the massacre you mean? (http://www.burmalibrary.org/reg.burma/archives/199703/msg00463.html)
.....we were ushered into a
spartan office where two senior Ministrytry figures received us with a
mixture of scepticism and delight that respectable British scientists were
interested in their 'big idea'.

One introduced himself as Ye Myint, advisor to the Forestry Minister. Eager
to impress, he boasted of Slorc's plans to establish a unique
million-hectare, biosphere', the Myinmoletkat Nature Reserve, in the Karen
area, one of the semi-independent regions set up just before Britain pulled
out of Burma in 1948. We hope the reserve will win world heritage status,'
he enthused.

The reserve would also encompass a section of a gas pipeline 'being
constructed by Total and Unocal, the French and American oil companies,
which signed deals with the Burmese to pump gas from the Andaman Sea in the
west to Thailand in the east. Huma rights groups say forced Tabour is being
used on the project.
Ye Myint told us of 'exciting project, the Lanbi Island Marine National
Park, off the southern Burmese coast. Coral islands would be transformed
into an 'eco-tourism venture' in the first stage of a grand plan to open
the entire 200-mile Mergui archipelago to mass tourism and scientific
study.
The Burmese government has been trying to wipe out the uppity Karen natives since at least 1948; getting the Karen homelands declared a conservation area gives them a semi-legitimate excuse to remove them. Additionally, a gas pipeline and tourist development in that area will pour money into their pockets and the pockets of their friends.
No eeevil UN involvement is needed.

[mrbaracuda]

They say that a world with european standards could only be 2 billion people. only very sick people stands for something like that, if you think that then you are NOT sane.

Judging by the other posters' replies, I think you need to understand the difference of standing for something and predicting something, if I'm not mistaken.

Offcourse UN gives food to poor countries. that doesnt change any facts does it. everybody in UN isnt evil, its just the people at the top that knows the agenda and the people under theme has no idea.

It may not change whatever facts you have, but it highly contradicts what you are saying: the UN/NWO plan to reduce the world's population by 80%. Not to mention that the people at the top seem to be too incompetent to sway their underlings, yet alone to control the world.

[...]a United Nations biosphere sanctuary[...]

This is the first time I heard about such thing as an UN bisphere sanctuary. Mind to elaborate on it and back it up? Preferrably not with one of those shady web pages.

ETA Thanks goes to sophia8 I guess.

the rockefellers helped to fund the united nations.

And that makes them complicit in what exactly? Imagine you donated to your favourite's, Ron Paul's, campaign, he won the election and went out to set up concentration camps for people like you in a hundred flowers-style campaign. Would you have been complicit in.. what exactly? :boggled:

"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history." -David Rockefeller 1973 (NY Times 8-10-73)

And you quote this why exactly? Link to the full article would be nice, too.

Good, normal, honest people like ron paul WILL be in power. people that just follow orders that dont question authority that dont know anymore history then what school teaches or thinks NWO is a good thing has a dark future.

Hold on a second. Are you deliberately using will instead of are going to? I was taught in school (you know, the place people usually go to acquire the groundwork for critical thinking) that the latter expresses a high probability, whereas the first one is rather a guess. In other words, you hope that people like Ron Paul will be in power, but since the NWO is out there, there's only a slight chance for your wish to come true. I guess you're ****ed then. I'm in my box, waiting for your answer on what part Sweden and the steel industry have played so far. :boxedin:

[Brainache]

They say that a world with european standards could only be 2 billion people. only very sick people stands for something like that, if you think that then you are NOT sane.

...



So I'll ask again: How many people do you think the world can support if they were to have the same standard of living as that enjoyed by Europeans or Americans?

Do you think it's possible for the population to go on increasing indefinitely with no catastrophic consequences?

The others here have covered the rest of your nonsense, but I'd be interested to see your thoughts on my questions. Do you indeed have any thoughts on these questions?

[Z]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 1-2 billion figure refer to the optimal population of a nation at the U.S. level of development, not the world? So that there could be an optimal US, optimal Europe, etc... potentially a world population of 6-10 billion, but living optimally?

Also, it's 'them', not 'theme'.

[dudalb]

Its good to go to school, but its not good to spend to much time there, you get brainwashed, they dont teach history. Poor people that dont go to school often know much more about how things work then people in school. mathematics etc dont get you smart, to know history and what happens in the world that makes you smart.

You can't make this stuff up,folks.

[dudalb]

It is much you dont understand when you think inside a box. pick up some books someday.

Like Batman Comics? The whole "Evil Plot To Reduce The World's Population by 80%" stuff is the classic Ras Al Ghul storyline.
COme to think of it,Batman Comics is probably a lot more rooted in reality then the crap that Malmoesoldier has been reading.

[Horatius]

Okay, I give up. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3230946#post3230946)

[Malmoesoldier]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 1-2 billion figure refer to the optimal population of a nation at the U.S. level of development, not the world? So that there could be an optimal US, optimal Europe, etc... potentially a world population of 6-10 billion, but living optimally?

Also, it's 'them', not 'theme'.

They talk about the worlds population read the quotes?. they say that a european standard of living could only support 2-3 billion people. and they talk about that cutting the food production in half would be a way to reduce the population. do you know what happens if you cut the food production by half? at least half of the human population will die. you dont feel any pressure from the other poster to give the words new meanings do you?. lol

[phunk]

do you know what happens if you cut the food production by half?

Wasteful nations like yours and mine will need to learn to be more efficient. The problem is not lack of food, we already have too much. The problem is in distribution.

[DGM]

They talk about the worlds population read the quotes?. they say that a european standard of living could only support 2-3 billion people. and they talk about that cutting the food production in half would be a way to reduce the population. do you know what happens if you cut the food production by half? at least half of the human population will die. you dont feel any pressure from the other poster to give the words new meanings do you?. lol
Malmoe:
What's to stop these people from producing their own food.

That evil UN must not be thinking outside the box.:rolleyes:

[Malmoesoldier]

Malmoe:
What's to stop these people from producing their own food.

That evil UN must not be thinking outside the box.:rolleyes:

Overwhelming evidence leads to the conclusion that modern commercial agriculture has had a direct negative impact on biodiversity at all levels.... Agriculture may be one of the most important causes of pollution, by the production of sediments, by the generation of chemical wastes, or by the use of pesticides."

Never mind that US agricultural practices have reduced these impacts to all time lows. The use of fertilizers would be sharply reduced if the GBA recommendations were implemented, in spite of the realization "that fertilisers have played an essential part in producing the world's harvests is undisputed. It is estimated that if the use of fertilisers ceased, the world's harvests would be cut almost in half.

[Brainache]

In case you missed it:

So I'll ask again: How many people do you think the world can support if they were to have the same standard of living as that enjoyed by Europeans or Americans?

Do you think it's possible for the population to go on increasing indefinitely with no catastrophic consequences?

The others here have covered the rest of your nonsense, but I'd be interested to see your thoughts on my questions. Do you indeed have any thoughts on these questions?

[DGM]

Never mind that US agricultural practices have reduced these impacts to all time lows. The use of fertilizers would be sharply reduced if the GBA recommendations were implemented, in spite of the realization "that fertilisers have played an essential part in producing the world's harvests is undisputed. It is estimated that if the use of fertilisers ceased, the world's harvests would be cut almost in half.
Care to answer the question?

What's to stop this 80% from producing it's own food. Reducing fertilizers only means you would need to devote more land.

Wasn't that Dr. Coffman that answered for you? Try to answer for yourself.

[Malmoesoldier]

Care to answer the question?

What's to stop this 80% from producing it's own food. Reducing fertilizers only means you would need to devote more land.

Wasn't that Dr. Coffman that answered for you? Try to answer for yourself.

You cant deny that there will be BIG problems and that many people will die by restricting fertilizers and access to irrigation water. when you cant produce enough food for the people what will happen? people will begin to die, its very simple.

In case you missed it:

Populations in developed countries are declining and only in third world countries is it expanding dramatically. Industrialization itself levels out population trends and even despite this world population models routinely show that the earth's population will level out at 9 billion in 2050 and slowly decline after that.

Conservation International's own study revealed that 46% of the earth's surface was an untouched wilderness, that is land areas not including sea. It is commonly accepted that the entire world population could all fit into the state of Texas and each have an acre of their own land.

Once a country industrializes there is an average of a 1.6 child rate per household, so the western world population is actually in decline. That trend has also been witnessed in areas of Asia like Japan and South Korea.

Even if you buy into the propaganda that there are too many people on the planet in the face of the facts, can you justify advocating state micro management of your life down to how many children you are allowed to have? Furthermore, can you justify programs of sterilization?

And we have already seen forced sterilization over and over again.

[WildCat]

It is commonly accepted that the entire world population could all fit into the state of Texas and each have an acre of their own land.
That would only work if we reduce the world's population to 170 million people. I'll alert the boys and we'll get started right away on the increased chemtrail spraying to make this happen.

[DGM]

You cant deny that there will be BIG problems and that many people will die by restricting fertilizers and access to irrigation water. when you cant produce enough food for the people what will happen? people will begin to die, its very simple.

And how do you suppose to do this? The UN does not control this sort of thing. They are going to need a much better plan.

Populations in developed countries are declining and only in third world countries is it expanding dramatically. Industrialization itself levels out population trends and even despite this world population models routinely show that the earth's population will level out at 9 billion in 2050 and slowly decline after that.

Conservation International's own study revealed that 46% of the earth's surface was an untouched wilderness, that is land areas not including sea. It is commonly accepted that the entire world population could all fit into the state of Texas and each have an acre of their own land.

Once a country industrializes there is an average of a 1.6 child rate per household, so the western world population is actually in decline. That trend has also been witnessed in areas of Asia like Japan and South Korea.

Even if you buy into the propaganda that there are too many people on the planet in the face of the facts, can you justify advocating state micro management of your life down to how many children you are allowed to have? Furthermore, can you justify programs of sterilization?

And we have already seen forced sterilization over and over again.

You should quote where you copy and paisted this response from. You wouldn't want people to accuse you of plagiarism.