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RobRoy
10th December 2007, 03:14 PM
We have threads on the most over-rated, and most under-rated authors, I was curious what author is actually deserving of the level of fame and success they have acheived?
Slimething
10th December 2007, 03:33 PM
Mark Twain, John Steinbeck and myself.
GreNME
10th December 2007, 05:35 PM
Frank Herbert :)
Once he gets famous, Scott Roberts.
Elizabeth I
10th December 2007, 07:18 PM
Well, to belabor the obvious, Shakespeare.
Jane Austen.
Mark Twain.
Miguel de Cervantes.
RedIbis
11th December 2007, 06:00 AM
William Faulkner.
I've also got to hand it to Cormac McCarthy. I'm reading Suttree right now and it's about the only American book that approaches the visual creativity and impressive use of language as Faulkner.
Marquis de Carabas
11th December 2007, 09:09 AM
Every author (indeed, every human) has the precise level of fame deserved.
Andronicus
11th December 2007, 03:30 PM
In English William Shakespeare is considered by many people the greatest writer who ever lived. I'd agree on many levels.
LibraryLady
11th December 2007, 03:40 PM
*ahem*
Lewis Carroll
geni
11th December 2007, 03:49 PM
Well, to belabor the obvious, Shakespeare.
A hack who got lucky.
Jane Austen.
Evidence that if the "literary elite" harp on about something long enough they will eventualy sell some books.
geni
11th December 2007, 03:53 PM
The logical aproach would be to look for authors who have managed to atchive fame during a period where their style of work being largely written off by the establisment.
So early Si-fi and fantasy authors might qualify or some of the first graphic novel people to make progress (Art Spiegelman or Neil Gaiman say).
Elizabeth I
11th December 2007, 08:05 PM
Evidence that if the "literary elite" harp on about something long enough they will eventualy sell some books.
Sorry, I fell in love with Jane Austen's writing as soon as I got into the first chapter of Pride and Prejudice. Hadn't heard anything from the "literary elite" and don't think much of them anyway.
geni
12th December 2007, 10:24 AM
Sorry, I fell in love with Jane Austen's writing as soon as I got into the first chapter of Pride and Prejudice. Hadn't heard anything from the "literary elite" and don't think much of them anyway.
And why do you think the book was in a position to be read by you? How many other midly sucessful victorian novelists have you read books by?
KateHL
12th December 2007, 11:15 AM
Heh. I think it's amusing that this thread automatically assumes fame as being a positive. So many authors are recluses who would be happy to never meet a fan. So in that line of thought, if I don't like the work of JD Salinger (and I don't, to be honest) should I wish him fame (that's a bit mean, even for me)? If I DO like the work of an author who goes out of his way to promote himself should I wish him fame? Probably, considering fame leads to sales and money is useful for survival.
By this criteria I'll have to say Vonnegut as he was both an incredible writer and lecturer. Same with Upton Sinclair. I may be a bit biased on this point, though, as he was my grandmother's uncle and he helped raise her while her father had tuberculosis and after he died during the depression (he even used her family in some of his woo experiments!). My reasoning is as follows: He was a talented writer and very much a self-made man (he began writing for a living in his early teens if I remember correctly) going so far as to publish his own works when he couldn't find a buyer. That kind of dedication is something I admire and cannot identify with in the slightest. If I'm told no more than a few times I'm going to shuffle on home and find a new career.
Let's see, Eudora Welty is another one who sticks out. Lovely woman. Douglas Adams, of course.
Fnord
12th December 2007, 11:23 AM
Saul/Paul of Tarsus.
He got more people talking about that fellow from Nazareth than any other author, in addition to starting a religion.
But then I'd have to include L. Ron Hubbard and Joseph Smith ...
... never mind.
TX50
12th December 2007, 11:44 AM
Publius Vergilius Maro. In the original, the "Aeneid" is just sublime.
bruto
12th December 2007, 03:05 PM
And why do you think the book was in a position to be read by you? How many other midly sucessful victorian novelists have you read books by?Victorian? Not quite. Some of us have read (or attempted to read!) books by her contemporaries, however, and it helps to bring home just how unusual Austen was, as well as giving a little more understanding of the satire in novels such as Northanger Abbey. Her success during her own lifetime was modest, and anonymous as was often the case with women authors, and it's true that she was soon largely forgotten by all but a few of the so-called literary elite. But why shouldn't the so-called literary elite be in a position to revive a great author? I, for one, thank them for it.
Zenskeptical
12th December 2007, 03:13 PM
I would definetely say John Steinbeck and Faulkner.
Tricky
13th December 2007, 12:44 PM
Kilgore Trout
Slimething
13th December 2007, 01:11 PM
Kilgore Trout
AFAIK, he only wrote one book. Is that right? Slimey on the Half-Shell or something like that. :boxedin:
Zenskeptical
13th December 2007, 03:57 PM
Kilgore Trout
Clever.:D
AgeGap
13th December 2007, 03:57 PM
Jeffrey Archer got what he deserved.
Halcyon Dayz
13th December 2007, 05:31 PM
Jeffrey Archer got what he deserved.
:D
Alas for the wrong reason.
hgc
13th December 2007, 07:27 PM
I want to 2nd almost everyone mentioned, and especially Faulkner and Austen. geni reminds me of a character in the movie Metropolitan by the name of Tom Townsend. He carries on endlessly criticizing Austen, and particularly Mansfield Park. Then it's revealed that he hasn't read any Austen. He said he just read literary criticism and not the work being critiqued because he didn't want to bias his opinion!
I'll add Dickens (and actual Victorian writer) too. I'm reading Great Expectations right now, and damn, that's good.
I've been re-reading Vonnegut since his death, and he most definitely deserved his fame.
jenspen
14th December 2007, 04:37 AM
I want to 2nd almost everyone mentioned, and especially Faulkner and Austen. geni reminds me of a character in the movie Metropolitan by the name of Tom Townsend. He carries on endlessly criticizing Austen, and particularly Mansfield Park. Then it's revealed that he hasn't read any Austen. He said he just read literary criticism and not the work being critiqued because he didn't want to bias his opinion!
I'll add Dickens (and actual Victorian writer) too. I'm reading Great Expectations right now, and damn, that's good.
I've been re-reading Vonnegut since his death, and he most definitely deserved his fame.
What he said.
KateHL
14th December 2007, 07:42 AM
I'll add Dickens (and actual Victorian writer) too. I'm reading Great Expectations right now, and damn, that's good.Dickens was a phenomenal writer and it makes me sad when people see boring in the place of hilarity when they read his work.
hgc
14th December 2007, 02:45 PM
Dostoyevsky (The Brothers Karamozov)
Nabakov (Lolita)
Molière (Tartuffe)
Moravia (The Conformist)
tkingdoll
14th December 2007, 05:24 PM
Dickens was a phenomenal writer and it makes me sad when people see boring in the place of hilarity when they read his work.
Thirded. Dickens makes me laugh out loud.
Agamemnon2
17th December 2007, 05:23 AM
Terry Pratchett.
Almo
19th December 2007, 02:58 PM
Douglas Adams, Frank Herbert, Stephen Jay Gould.
Doc Daneeka
1st January 2008, 01:15 AM
Joseph Conrad. His work is even more impressive when you realise that he didn't even learn english until he was in his late teens.
kinkymagic
1st January 2008, 12:23 PM
Laurence Sterne
Dr Johnson famously dismissed Tristam Shandy in five words: "Nothing odd will do long." Been going for almost two and a half centuries now.
Andronicus
1st January 2008, 06:33 PM
Joseph Conrad. His work is even more impressive when you realise that he didn't even learn english until he was in his late teens.
Not my absolute favorite, but certainly a spectacular writer who was deserving of his fame.
Doc Daneeka
2nd January 2008, 07:11 PM
Not my absolute favorite, but certainly a spectacular writer who was deserving of his fame.
Indeed. He's not my favourite either, but his writing is certainly worthy of fame.
Damien Evans
3rd January 2008, 06:37 AM
Douglas Adams, Joseph Conrad and John Tolkein
Kmee
4th January 2008, 11:31 PM
Well I happened to come accross this "Who is the most deserving author?" thread and I absolutely must express my opinion. Kurt Vonnegut absolutely blew me out of the water this year. However, after reading a few more of his books I came accross the following authors which at least deserve our respects. John Fante, Allen Ginsberge, Thomas Wolfe, Ernest Hemmingway, Lawrance, Celine, Turgenev, Gorky, Dostoevsky.
I am new, but love the system. Be as harsh as you want, I'll be here with a smile on.
Jon.
Ashles
6th January 2008, 06:47 AM
Douglas Adams and Jonathan Swift.
fitzgibbon
6th January 2008, 07:25 AM
Michael Ondaatje. Read "In The Skin of the Lion" after having seen "The English Patient" and was astonished by the visual impact of his writing.
RedIbis
14th January 2008, 07:45 AM
Well I happened to come accross this "Who is the most deserving author?" thread and I absolutely must express my opinion. Kurt Vonnegut absolutely blew me out of the water this year. However, after reading a few more of his books I came accross the following authors which at least deserve our respects. John Fante, Allen Ginsberge, Thomas Wolfe, Ernest Hemmingway, Lawrance, Celine, Turgenev, Gorky, Dostoevsky.
I am new, but love the system. Be as harsh as you want, I'll be here with a smile on.
Jon.
Not to be too harsh, but you want to check the spelling of some of those great writers.
On a more pertinent note, I was recently introduced to John Fante's "Brotherhood of the Grape." What a beautiful and poignant book. He reminds me of an Italian John Steinbeck. Highly recommended.
this charming man
14th January 2008, 01:17 PM
Jonathan Swift?
No matter how many times I read A Modest Proposal (http://books.google.com/books?id=WCsCR6yVPLIC&dq=a+modest+proposal&pg=PP1&ots=9CT2V_5QhP&sig=JFhrkaH_HB_Mwx0wTPsTpQdPhzw&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=a+modest+proposal&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail), I laugh and sit in awe of such wit.
Tressa
14th January 2008, 02:56 PM
JK Rowling; for getting people of all ages to put down the video games, set down the tv remote, and turn off the computer by weaving a wonderful fantasy hero tale.
Stellafane
14th January 2008, 04:29 PM
Herman Melville, F. Scotts Fitzgerald, Flannery O'Connor.
RedIbis
15th January 2008, 05:35 AM
Herman Melville, F. Scotts Fitzgerald, Flannery O'Connor.
I mentioned Flannery O'Connor earlier in this thread. She's truly one of the greatest of the 20th C. So funny, so perceptive, such a great writer.
"She would have been a good woman had there been someone there to shoot her every minute of her life."
Kmee
21st January 2008, 02:28 PM
[QUOTE=RedIbis;3335023]Not to be too harsh, but you want to check the spelling of some of those great writers.[QUOTE]
Definitely not being harsh, I should have been paying more attention (always had troubles with the spelling of names from memory). I feel like I have failed them all haha. I can't figure out how to edit posts, but appreciate your heads up. Thanks.
Jon.
Kestrel
21st January 2008, 04:37 PM
JK Rowling; for getting people of all ages to put down the video games, set down the tv remote, and turn off the computer by weaving a wonderful fantasy hero tale.
I will second that.
Anyone who can get kids to stand in long lines to purchase a 780 page book has earned their fame.
joesixpack
21st January 2008, 04:40 PM
Joseph Conrad. His work is even more impressive when you realise that he didn't even learn english until he was in his late teens.
I'll second that nomination. I'd also third it and fourth it. Best writer in the English language. Ed Spenser also get's a nod, as does Raymond Chandler.
gnome
21st January 2008, 05:05 PM
Poe.
I see Douglas Adams is already a favorite.
No mentions for Asimov yet?
bruto
21st January 2008, 06:55 PM
deleted post, wrong forum.
Danai
23rd January 2008, 10:21 PM
John Steinbeck and Ernest Hemingway, but, in my opinion Shakespeare is without peer.
figarot
2nd February 2008, 11:01 PM
John Edgar Wideman. Don't think he's very famous however, but he's very deserving. All Stories Are True is better than anything Shakespeare's done.
Dagoberto Gilb is also deserving...
gerdbonk
3rd February 2008, 12:09 AM
Poe and Bukowski.
RobRoy
4th February 2008, 09:54 AM
I'm going to throw Bernard Cornwell up here. He does his research, admits his mistakes, tells a gripping tale with interesting characters, and has been in the industry for years.
zeusbheld
25th February 2008, 06:01 AM
And why do you think the book was in a position to be read by you? How many other midly sucessful victorian novelists have you read books by?
ooooooh! a conspiracy! will these elitist devils stop at nothing???
zeusbheld
25th February 2008, 06:05 AM
Douglas Adams, if he were still alive, would have mentioned Wodehouse.
gumboot
25th February 2008, 02:27 PM
Victorian? Not quite. Some of us have read (or attempted to read!) books by her contemporaries, however, and it helps to bring home just how unusual Austen was, as well as giving a little more understanding of the satire in novels such as Northanger Abbey. Her success during her own lifetime was modest, and anonymous as was often the case with women authors, and it's true that she was soon largely forgotten by all but a few of the so-called literary elite. But why shouldn't the so-called literary elite be in a position to revive a great author? I, for one, thank them for it.
One thing that people often forget is that Shakespeare is much in the same boat. His work was never considered that important during his lifetime.
Whiplash
1st March 2008, 04:54 AM
No mentions for Asimov yet?
I'll second that. My personal favorite SF writer overall.
gumboot
2nd March 2008, 01:38 AM
I thought I'd mention some deserving fantasy writers... the fantasy genre seems to be the poor man of fiction - most people don't take them seriously. But there's a few writers out there who deserve more credit than they receive.
Terry Pratchett
Bernard Cornwall
Jack Whyte
Cecilia Dart-Thornton
George R R Martin
Mary Stewart
Juliet Marillier
Guy Gavriel Kay
Gregory
2nd March 2008, 01:00 PM
Mikhail Bulgakov. I haven't liked most of the Russian literature I've tried--everybody killing themselves or freezing to death--but The Master and Margarita and Heart of a Dog really impressed me.
And Wodehouse--because when you can write as well as he did, it doesn't really matter if you're basically telling the same three or four stories over and over.
Shoogar
6th March 2008, 09:32 PM
Edgar Allen Poe
Tolkien
Arthur C. Clarke
Shakespeare
Sceptic Realist
6th March 2008, 09:45 PM
Shakespeare is at the top of my list, because he covered such a broad range of stories, ideas, and plights of common man. What's that they always say - there are only ten plots known to man? He's done em all, and with language that sings.
Tolkien, Asimov, and a whole bunch of others for imagination un - paralelled.
Douglas Adams.
If I keep listing, I'll never stop. So I'll stop right there.
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