Did Satan made up the Bible?

[Oliver]

I'd like the religious nuts to provide evidence that the
Bible isn't actually Satan's work.

And no. Nowhere in the Bible is written that it wasn't
Satan who made it up to fool and deceive the religious
nuts.

So any answer why I should believe that the Bible
is God's word and not Satan's word? Well? :rolleyes:

[Diagoras]

I've considered writing a short story about Satan being the real good deity and Yahweh being an evil deity who wrote a misleading text to trick people into worshiping him and to spread lies about Satan. The Bible, in this story, would be mostly accurate but heavily distorted by Yahweh's point of view about how things went down. I think the idea has real potential, if done right.

[Oliver]

I've considered writing a short story about Satan being the real good deity and Yahweh being an evil deity who wrote a misleading text to trick people into worshiping him and to spread lies about Satan. The Bible, in this story, would be mostly accurate but heavily distorted by Yahweh's point of view about how things went down. I think the idea has real potential, if done right.


What are you getting at? The Bible already has real
potential - being the word of Satan.

So it's working perfectly and all the Christians in the
World are already falling for Satan's word - and actually
selling their souls to believe in Satan's Bible.

It's a win-win situation for Satan ... and Atheists.

[...which makes me wonder if an Atheist wrote the
Bible - or if Satan actually is an Atheist]

[Halcyon Dayz]

I've considered writing a short story about Satan being the real good deity and Yahweh being an evil deity who wrote a misleading text to trick people into worshipping him and to spread lies about Satan. The Bible, in this story, would be mostly accurate but heavily distorted by Yahweh's point of view about how things went down. I think the idea has real potential, if done right.


Similar themes in:

'The devil you don't' - Keith Laumer 1970
Job: A Comedy of Justice - Robert Heinlein 1984

Satan got a lot of bad press.
Under modern circumstances he would be considered as a political refugee. :D

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I always reference the Book of Job on this topic. The Bible as a work of Satan actually makes more sense than it being the word of God. After all, it portrays God as an absolute blithering idiot busy making egregiously stupid corrections to his earlier egregiously stupid mistakes.

[Charlie Monoxide]

My bible says "written by Satan".

Although it is written in crayon in a hand-writing that looks very similar to my own ....

Charlie (satanic minion bible desecrater) Monoxide

[tomwaits]

I'd like the religious nuts to provide evidence that the
Bible isn't actually Satan's work.

And no. Nowhere in the Bible is written that it wasn't
Satan who made it up to fool and deceive the religious
nuts.

So any answer why I should believe that the Bible
is God's word and not Satan's word? Well? :rolleyes:

The Gnostics might have agreed with that (well at least about the Old Testament and the Demiurge).

[This Guy]

I could believe satan wrote the bible, except for one small problem.

I think if an evil god like character wrote a book to deceive the followers of another god like character, having god like powers, they would have avoided the errors we see in the bible.

It seems obvious to me that men wrote the bible (and I'm sure the women will agree ;))

[boojum]

Similar themes in:

'The devil you don't' - Keith Laumer 1970
Job: A Comedy of Justice - Robert Heinlein 1984

Satan got a lot of bad press.
Under modern circumstances he would be considered as a political refugee. :D

See also: "Deathbird" by Harlan Ellison; and Satan: His Psychotherapy and Cure by the Unfortunate Doctor Kessler, J. S. P. S.

[Oliver]

I could believe satan wrote the bible, except for one small problem.

I think if an evil god like character wrote a book to deceive the followers of another god like character, having god like powers, they would have avoided the errors we see in the bible.

It seems obvious to me that men wrote the bible (and I'm sure the women will agree ;))


Why? Satan added the errors to confuse people like the religious
ones in JREF/Religion. So it makes perfect sense to cover Satan's
evil plans. :D

[Oliver]

The Bible as a work of Satan actually makes more sense than it being the word of God.


That's my point here.

Religious people: Proof it that God and not Satan wrote the [fill in your holy scripture].

To me it's one hoax and Satan did a great Job to finally get
all the believers souls. :popcorn2 ... congratulations ... :D

[Diagoras]

Okay, I'll play Yahweh's advocate...

What do you mean, the Bible was written by Satan? Don't you see all the good things that JAAAYzus does in the Bible? When I pray to JAAAYzus I feel he is good and not evil, so he must be the son of a good God and not that evil Lucifer. Just get on your knees and pray to JAAAYzus and you'll know what I mean...but you have to mean it when you pray. You can't just say some words and expect to feel the warm loving light of JAAAYzus.

[JoeEllison]

Wait... did a fictional character write the fictional book that introduced the fictional character? That's like asking if Voldemort wrote the Hairy Pooter books.

[Beerina]

I've considered writing a short story about Satan being the real good deity and Yahweh being an evil deity who wrote a misleading text to trick people into worshiping him and to spread lies about Satan. The Bible, in this story, would be mostly accurate but heavily distorted by Yahweh's point of view about how things went down. I think the idea has real potential, if done right.

This is basically the (or one of the) gnostic position(s) from antiquity. They felt the god of Genesis was some kind of psychotic malformity, and Satan was sent by the real god to open the eyes of humans by telling them things (like good and evil) that the psychotic god was trying to keep hidden.

Originally there was this good and perfect and awesome god. He was so awesome, in fact, that a copy of him self-instantiated. It was perfect in every way except it was not the original. Still, it was perfect enough that a copy of it also self-instantiated. This process repeated itself until the 7th copy-god, wherein enough cumulative errors had cropped up that no more copies self-instantiated. Needless to say, this pissed off that 7th derivative, who then created humans to lord over instead.

As a supernatural explanation, it effortlessly solves the problems of standard Judeo-Christianity, to wit, the Problem of Evil and the apparent psychotic and jealous, spoiled bratlike nature of the behavior of the OT god.

[Oliver]

Okay, I'll play Yahweh's advocate...

What do you mean, the Bible was written by Satan? Don't you see all the good things that JAAAYzus does in the Bible? When I pray to JAAAYzus I feel he is good and not evil, so he must be the son of a good God and not that evil Lucifer. Just get on your knees and pray to JAAAYzus and you'll know what I mean...but you have to mean it when you pray. You can't just say some words and expect to feel the warm loving light of JAAAYzus.


Well, the Bibles text sounds good and wise - but being a Skeptic,
history tells me that the Bible is the cause of millions of deaths.
Therefore - being factual here: Satan wrote the Bible to get
those millions of souls. :p

Jesus might have avoided all of those innocent deaths in all his
wisdom. Since he didn't avoid those deaths, it's absolutely
obvious to me that Satan wrote all scriptures we know today. :)

[Oliver]

Wait... did a fictional character write the fictional book that introduced the fictional character? That's like asking if Voldemort wrote the Hairy Pooter books.


No. The Bible exists. And therefore it [scripture] was foisted by Satan.
History proves me right. :)

[Madalch]

Simply refuted by the average fundy- "When I read it, it touched my heart, and it felt good. If Satan had touched my heart, it would have hurt."

[Darth Rotor]

I'd like the religious nuts to provide evidence that the
Bible isn't actually Satan's work.

And no. Nowhere in the Bible is written that it wasn't
Satan who made it up to fool and deceive the religious
nuts.

So any answer why I should believe that the Bible
is God's word and not Satan's word? Well? :rolleyes:
How could Satan write a book, on paper? It would keep catching fire and burning into ashes. :boggled:

DR

[Hokulele]

I've considered writing a short story about Satan being the real good deity and Yahweh being an evil deity who wrote a misleading text to trick people into worshiping him and to spread lies about Satan. The Bible, in this story, would be mostly accurate but heavily distorted by Yahweh's point of view about how things went down. I think the idea has real potential, if done right.

Similar themes in:

'The devil you don't' - Keith Laumer 1970
Job: A Comedy of Justice - Robert Heinlein 1984

Satan got a lot of bad press.
Under modern circumstances he would be considered as a political refugee. :D


To Reign in Hell by Steven Brust.

[Undesired Walrus]

I'd like the religious nuts

I thought you were a catholic?

[Michael Redman]

Similar themes in:

'The devil you don't' - Keith Laumer 1970
Job: A Comedy of Justice - Robert Heinlein 1984

Satan got a lot of bad press.
Under modern circumstances he would be considered as a political refugee. :D

Newcomers.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/twain/letearth.htm

[Madalch]

How could Satan write a book, on paper? It would keep catching fire and burning into ashes.
<MPHolyGrail>Perhaps he was dictating...</MPHolyGrail>

[Oliver]

Simply refuted by the average fundy- "When I read it, it touched my heart, and it felt good. If Satan had touched my heart, it would have hurt."


And? That's what the Devil intended. Still proves my point
that Satan wrote the [Bible/Scripture] to make believers
feel this way.

And yes, I know that Satan's plan is a pretty sinister one
to fool all those innocent Believers... :(

How could Satan write a book, on paper? It would keep catching fire and burning into ashes. :boggled:

DR


He forced a Christian to write it down. Damn, where is your
trust in Satan? :rolleyes:


I thought you were a catholic?


I am - but I don't see that my religion is right - taking its history
into account. What do you think about the Christian History?

And are you Christian as well? - Or a Satan-Worshiper sinisterly
claiming to be a Christian in the name of the Satan-Bible? :D

[Silentknight]

It's worth pointing out that the Satan of the bible is very different from the Satan as portrayed in mainstream Christianity. If you look at his role in books such as Job, Genesis, or the gospels, it turns out he's not the prime evil entity that many Christians claim he is. It was God who came up with the plan to test Job's faith, not Satan. It was God who set things up in the Garden of Eden so that Adam and Eve would eat the fruit of knowledge, which he knew full well they would do. It was God who devised the test for Jesus, and who laid out Jesus' destiny. If you look at the bible in its entirety, you'll see that it's God himself who carries out or orders 99% of the evil acts, not Satan.

Essentially Satan works for Yahweh, carries out orders at his request, and only punishes those who have sinned. In other words, Satan is more of a prosecuting angel for Yahweh. bible-truths.com (sorry, can't post the link) is a good source on this topic.

[fuelair]

I've considered writing a short story about Satan being the real good deity and Yahweh being an evil deity who wrote a misleading text to trick people into worshiping him and to spread lies about Satan. The Bible, in this story, would be mostly accurate but heavily distorted by Yahweh's point of view about how things went down. I think the idea has real potential, if done right.
Heinlein already did it. A lot of ideas like this can be answered with those words!!!:)

[T'ai Chi]

I'd like the religious nuts to provide evidence that the
Bible isn't actually Satan's work.

And no. Nowhere in the Bible is written that it wasn't
Satan who made it up to fool and deceive the religious
nuts.

So any answer why I should believe that the Bible
is God's word and not Satan's word? Well? :rolleyes:

I'm sure the "religious nuts" don't really care what you believe or don't believe on it. Speaking as a 'semi-religious-nut', I certainly don't.

[fsol]

This is basically the (or one of the) gnostic position(s) from antiquity. They felt the god of Genesis was some kind of psychotic malformity, and Satan was sent by the real god to open the eyes of humans by telling them things (like good and evil) that the psychotic god was trying to keep hidden.

Originally there was this good and perfect and awesome god. He was so awesome, in fact, that a copy of him self-instantiated. It was perfect in every way except it was not the original. Still, it was perfect enough that a copy of it also self-instantiated. This process repeated itself until the 7th copy-god, wherein enough cumulative errors had cropped up that no more copies self-instantiated. Needless to say, this pissed off that 7th derivative, who then created humans to lord over instead.

As a supernatural explanation, it effortlessly solves the problems of standard Judeo-Christianity, to wit, the Problem of Evil and the apparent psychotic and jealous, spoiled bratlike nature of the behavior of the OT god.


Philip K Dick uses this idea for Valis. "The empire never ended" and all that stuff.

[Michael Redman]

According to Twain (as reliable source as any) Satan did not write the Bible. Here are his (Satan's) comments on it:

One of his principle religions is called the Christian. A sketch of it will interest you. It sets forth in detail in a book containing two million words, called the Old and New Testaments. Also it has another name -- The Word of God. For the Christian thinks every word of it was dictated by God -- the one I have been speaking of.

It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies.

This Bible is built mainly out of the fragments of older Bibles that had their day and crumbled to ruin. So it noticeably lacks in originality, necessarily. Its three or four most imposing and impressive events all happened in earlier Bibles; all its best precepts and rules of conduct came also from those Bibles; there are only two new things in it: hell, for one, and that singular heaven I have told you about.