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Fnord
14th December 2007, 10:06 AM
Here's the link. (http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/13/514602.aspx?GT1=10645)

I was as disappointed with the part that said I wouldn't find one under the Christmas tree this year, as I was with the fact that the news was not released in a peer-review medium.

Rolfe
14th December 2007, 10:16 AM
I take it they actually fluoresce? No milled wheat involved? :D

Rolfe.

ponderingturtle
14th December 2007, 10:20 AM
I am waiting for Phosphorescent Ferrets my self.

Fnord
14th December 2007, 10:40 AM
Correction: Fluoresce (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fluorescence)

Madalch
14th December 2007, 11:10 AM
The comments section in that link is truly horrifying.

Overman
14th December 2007, 11:20 AM
What hath science wroght?!?

Fnord
14th December 2007, 12:22 PM
What hath science wroght?!?


Uhh ... Cloned cats that fluoresce red under U/V light?

alfaniner
14th December 2007, 12:44 PM
Considering the source, and lack of peer review, I am highly skeptical of these results.

joobz
14th December 2007, 12:49 PM
I'm still waiting for biotechnology to create a two headed. You can pet one kittie's head and pet the other kittie's head..

Rolfe
15th December 2007, 06:42 AM
Last comment not so funny. Two-headed kittens are occasionally born (as with other species) and there was a case not so long ago. It's a developmental defect due to incomplete separation of identical twins, and it's usually non-viable. The last time, the owner tried to keep the poor thing alive for the notoriety and it was very sad.

Fluorescence? Why not? So long as there are no animal welfare issues, why the concern? I'm not that sceptical, because I believe it has been done for other species - can't remember the details. If they can breed cats without the gene for the saliva protein that causes cat allergy in man, then what's so different? Or is being whimsical rather than practical somehow evil? (Again, assuming happy healthy fluorescing kitties of course.)

Rolfe.

joobz
15th December 2007, 08:06 AM
Last comment not so funny. Two-headed kittens are occasionally born (as with other species) and there was a case not so long ago. It's a developmental defect due to incomplete separation of identical twins, and it's usually non-viable. The last time, the owner tried to keep the poor thing alive for the notoriety and it was very sad..
Last comment was a reference to a song (the cat with two heads by the aquabats) and was in no way meant to make light of the genetic defect. That's why I included the line "biotechnology to create..."

CFLarsen
15th December 2007, 08:16 AM
Here's the link. (http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/13/514602.aspx?GT1=10645)

I was as disappointed with the part that said I wouldn't find one under the Christmas tree this year, as I was with the fact that the news was not released in a peer-review medium.

I'm not sure John Edward would appreciate a cat up his...

*drumroll*

T'ai Chi
15th December 2007, 08:23 AM
I'm not sure anyone knows that introducing fluorescence in cats will have no ill unintended side effects in the long-run for cats or other species.

CFLarsen
15th December 2007, 08:36 AM
I'm not sure anyone knows that introducing fluorescence in cats will have no ill unintended side effects in the long-run for cats or other species.

You can say the same about any invention or discovery.

Tell you what: Let's not develop any more medicines. Let's not invent new and better methods of food production. In fact, let's put a complete halt to all science.

We cannot be sure there will be no ill unintended side effects in the long-run.

alfaniner
15th December 2007, 10:13 AM
I'm not sure John Edward would appreciate a cat up his...

*drumroll*

That would certainly be a cat-as-trophy.

ChaoticLimbs
15th December 2007, 09:12 PM
Wow, the comments in the link from some of the ladies on how "cruel" it was to experiment on these cats are the most ignorant things I've seen on the internet this year.

They don't even know the only experimentation occurred while these cats were single-celled embryos, and now they're normal cats who happen to produce a pigment that fluoresces under ultraviolet light.

CFLarsen
16th December 2007, 01:23 AM
That would certainly be a cat-as-trophy.

:D

Lonewulf
16th December 2007, 01:39 AM
Considering the source, and lack of peer review, I am highly skeptical of these results.

I don't see what's to be so skeptical about.

Monkeys (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1590/is_9_57/ai_70872765) have done the same thing.

Hm, okay... read the article in full that I linked, and realized the monkey didn't actually glow. But he still had the gene or something...

Huh. Maybe you should be skeptical.

Arkan_Wolfshade
16th December 2007, 08:02 AM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/glow-in-the-dark-cats.jpg

MageLite
16th December 2007, 02:05 PM
Can this only be done when the cats are embryos? And only for UV light? Or must I continue to endure sneak attacks on my feet during the night?

technoextreme
16th December 2007, 03:14 PM
Fluorescence? Why not? So long as there are no animal welfare issues, why the concern? I'm not that sceptical, because I believe it has been done for other species - can't remember the details. If they can breed cats without the gene for the saliva protein that causes cat allergy in man, then what's so different? Or is being whimsical rather than practical somehow evil? (Again, assuming happy healthy fluorescing kitties of course.)

Rolfe.
The only other animal I can think of is fish.

Rolfe
16th December 2007, 03:30 PM
Yes, it was in my mind that it was some sort of fish, but the details escape me.

Rolfe.

technoextreme
16th December 2007, 05:02 PM
Yes, it was in my mind that it was some sort of fish, but the details escape me.

Rolfe.
Zebra fish. Weird fish. I almost participated in a research program at MGH involved with studying them. PS: If you knew they were fish why didn't you search for flourscent fish?

Skeptical Greg
16th December 2007, 05:23 PM
I would find it unusual if most pussies didn't fluoresce under UV light..

Probably not red, though ..

skepHick
16th December 2007, 06:07 PM
Bioluminescent mice (http://www.forbes.com/2001/07/26/0726gfp.html), perhaps? Recently caught a brief part of a segment on the series 100 Greatest Discoveries, hosted by Bill Nye (Science Channel, USA). In the segment, the biolum was being attached to stem cells and injected into mice in order to track the development of the stem cells into specific types of cells. Unfortunately, I only caught a minute of it, so can't offer details. I've got it set to record for next time to get full details...cool stuff!

Rolfe
17th December 2007, 04:18 AM
Who is this "Bill Nye" person anyway? Whenever I see him referred to I think you're talking about Bill Nighy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nighy).

Rolfe.

Skeptical Greg
17th December 2007, 08:04 AM
Google and Wiki are your friends....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye

JonnyFive
17th December 2007, 08:10 AM
There's a video link off that article that claims to show the cats themselves, and they really aren't all that impressive. Their skin glows faintly red under UV light, that's about it. It's not this brilliant light or anything, as some of the morons in the comments section seem to think.

There are some gems there.

kelleigh lonidier is creeped out by cats:
Cat's are freaky enough on their own, we don't need to tinker with their genes to make them anymore spooky.

HP knows where our priorities should be:
Daily prayers should be said for things done against what God created.

Kara Roberts doesn't know how to read:
how do u get the cats to glow? was it an accident or was it the cloning?

C.G. believes in three things: God, cliches, and spelung mestakes:
There is only One True Creator and that is God. Something has already gone amiss in these experaments. Just think, these scientists will answer to God wether they believe in HIM or not. HE surely believes in them. What else will science do for a buck?

ponderingturtle
17th December 2007, 10:14 AM
Last comment not so funny. Two-headed kittens are occasionally born (as with other species) and there was a case not so long ago. It's a developmental defect due to incomplete separation of identical twins, and it's usually non-viable. The last time, the owner tried to keep the poor thing alive for the notoriety and it was very sad.


What about incomplete mergers for chimera?