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ShowMe
17th September 2003, 08:04 AM
There's an awful lot of posts in this forum about Windows "security", how different browsers are superior, etc.

Unfortunately most sites out there are made to work best with Internet Explorer. Outlook Web Assist can get pretty weird if you use something other than IE, for instance.

The problems with Internet Explorer are many and varied, but some of us are stuck with the browser whether we like it or not.

Try this: Go into Internet options and delete your history (and cache, and temp files, and cookies). Do you realize that your history still exists? Go ahead, clear everything out...I'll wait.

Now that you've done that do a search for the index.dat file and open it up with notepad. Or you can download spider at http://www.fsm.nl/ward/ and check it out. Interesting stuff....imagine that your employer was doing this instead of you. Anything in that history you prefer they not see?

Conspiracy theories abound as to why MSoft does this, but that's not what this post is about. If we're stuck with the browser because of work then we need to do something other than simply switch programs.

So here are 3 easy tips few tips to make IE work better and to (hopefully) keep some of your privacy:

1.) Download 3S from http://www.igorshpak.net . This program allows you to delete all of your history, including the history in the index.dat files. Best of all it's free (though I would suggest sending the guy $10 through paypal via the donate button on the program)

2.) From Explorer go to Tools->Internet Options and click "Settings" under "Temporary Internet Files". Chances are it's set to some ridiculous sum (like 560 MB); if you're on a broadband connection you don't need that much cache. It's just taking up room on your hard drive. Change it to something a little less out there (35 MB works well for me).

3.) As long as your in Internet Tools, click the Security tab, click Trust Sites & then click the Sites button. These are sites that can have pretty much full control of your computer. I know AOL adds itself in here (or did at one time). If there are sites in here you don't recognize or don't trust, now would be a good time to remove them.

Anyone else have some hints and tips for IE? Please, no "get a different program". Let's assume that's not an option.

michaellee
17th September 2003, 10:24 AM
Try out "TweakNow Professional 2003". Go to TweakNow2003 (http://www.tucows.com/preview/291233.html) to download. It will run on all Windows platforms...

Dinonychus
17th September 2003, 10:43 AM
I know this probably isn't what you were looking for, but I have my history set to keep sites for just 24 hours. If I want to look at one site for a longer period of time, I either bookmark it or I just save it in a window.

ShowMe
17th September 2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Dinonychus
I know this probably isn't what you were looking for, but I have my history set to keep sites for just 24 hours. If I want to look at one site for a longer period of time, I either bookmark it or I just save it in a window.

Check out your index.dat file sometime.

You're history is around for considerably longer than 24 hours.

I'm not referring to the address history (ie, the URL listing in IE). I'm referring to an electronic trail of every web site you've ever visited.

ChrisH
17th September 2003, 11:19 AM
I have several files called index.dat. They're small....

Of course I use Opera, not MSIE.

BobK
17th September 2003, 04:39 PM
Warning!!!

I just downloaded and tried that 3S program.

It did what it said it would, but has an undocumented feature.

It uninstalled the software for my D-link wireless adapter.:mad:

I re-installed the software and can get back on the net, but I find my machine will not detect my adapter unless I do a cold startup.

A reboot while the machine is still on fails to detect my network card. :mad:

I'm going to email the guy and hopefully find out what his program did to my machine.

I'm running winXP on a 500 mhz pentium III.

You've been warned.

ShowMe
18th September 2003, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by BobK
[I just downloaded and tried that 3S program.

It did what it said it would, but has an undocumented feature.

It uninstalled the software for my D-link wireless adapter.:mad:

I re-installed the software and can get back on the net, but I find my machine will not detect my adapter unless I do a cold startup.


Interesting. I have the exact setup at home, I'll try it on my machine and see if it does the same thing.

What DLink wireless card do you use?

BobK
18th September 2003, 10:01 PM
I have the DWL-520+ wireless PCI adapter on my machine, communicating with a d-link DI-714P+ router and they have been working flawlessly since we installed them several months ago.

I've never seen anything like it and I've been using computers for the last 25+ years, although not professionally.

After using the 3S program and rebooting my computer, my d-link directory had been deleted and when I looked in the Add/Remove programs list, the program was no longer listed in there either. I can only assume that somehow his program actually uninstalled my d-link software.

I emailed the guy and his reponse was of no use. He basically said that he had no idea how his program could have done that.

Whomp
20th September 2003, 07:10 PM
Of course, there are only about 3 dozen programs easily available now to totally scrub all internet traces (including index.dat) from your system.

Um...

Whomp!

lofgoernost
22nd September 2003, 07:11 PM
Which versions of IE can Spider 1.16 be used on?

Posted by Showme

Interesting. I have the exact setup at home, I'll try it on my machine and see if it does the same thing.

So, what happened?

richardm
23rd September 2003, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by lofgoernost
Which versions of IE can Spider 1.16 be used on?



So, what happened?


Obviously, he won't be able to tell us until he figures out how to reinstall his network adapter :D

ShowMe
23rd September 2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by lofgoernost
Which versions of IE can Spider 1.16 be used on?



So, what happened?

Just ran and scrubbed everything, though I'm not using the + series, just a DL-714 and a DWL-650 card.

Perhaps something was set up in the user specified directories?

In any case if folks want to shy away from this program, as Womp said there are a lot of other programs out there that can be used.

Spider works on any IE version I've tested, though it looks in specific directories for the index.dat unless you map a drive and search the entire drive.