View Full Version : It was forty years ago today...
Brainache
17th December 2007, 12:56 AM
The Prime Minister of Australia went for a swim and never came back. Did he drown? Was it suicide? Did he fake his death and live out his days in the south of France? Was he spirited away aboard a Chinese submarine?
We may never know. I'm just asking questions...
http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/investigative/case5.asp
http://harold-holt.net/chinese.htm
Magenta
17th December 2007, 01:00 AM
I'm just asking questions...
That's what they all say... :p
I was thinking about posting something on this the other day. There was bit on the ABC a while back - I'll have a look for it.
timhau
17th December 2007, 01:34 AM
That should teach him about going for a swim in the middle of winter.
Alareth
17th December 2007, 02:03 AM
Hey, That's the old guy living in my closet!
Magenta
17th December 2007, 02:33 AM
Found it – it's a 5 minute documentary (http://dl.filmaust.com.au/module/1167/) from the Prime Ministers' National Treasures series. It briefly mentions some of the CTs, one of which includes perennial suspects, the CIA. There's some footage of Cheviot Beach, then and now – I'm not surprised someone drowned there.
There's a bit more on this ABC (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/09/25/2043282.htm)page, including a link to the National Archives (which seems to be down at the moment.). The NA has a copy of the police report and copies of some of the CT letters. One of the first was from an American lawyer…
Hans
17th December 2007, 02:42 AM
That should teach him about going for a swim in the middle of winter.
It is summer downunder in December
timhau
17th December 2007, 02:47 AM
It is summer downunder in December
No way. If that were true, the Earth would have to be round.
Brainache
17th December 2007, 03:04 AM
Well I guess Alareth has solved the mystery. Now, if we can just find that closet...
fromdownunder
17th December 2007, 04:02 AM
Russian Mini-Sub kidnapped him for ransom.
Norm
T.A.M.
17th December 2007, 04:05 AM
Isn't there suppose to be some line in here about Sgt. Pepper teaching a band or something...40 years...20 years...whats the diff...
TAM;)
defaultdotxbe
17th December 2007, 09:39 AM
he was abducted by a USO
case closed
Quad4_72
17th December 2007, 09:48 AM
Where do people come up with all that crap?
Alferd_Packer
17th December 2007, 09:59 AM
Maybe he's hanging out with Micheal Rockefeller.
maccy
17th December 2007, 10:13 AM
Isn't there suppose to be some line in here about Sgt. Pepper teaching a band or something...40 years...20 years...whats the diff...
TAM;)
He'd found out that Paul was dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_is_dead)and so Yoko had to deal with him...
If you play The Frog Chorus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_All_Stand_Together) backwards, it tells the whole story.
SDC
17th December 2007, 10:19 AM
he was abducted by a USO
case closed
The USO??? What, he got served tea and cakes, and was forced to dance with the hostesses?
defaultdotxbe
17th December 2007, 10:23 AM
The USO??? What, he got served tea and cakes, and was forced to dance with the hostesses?
Unidentified Submerged Object (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unidentified_submerged_object)
gtc
17th December 2007, 03:03 PM
Unidentified Submerged Object (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unidentified_submerged_object)
Powered by tea, cakes and dance hostesses?
defaultdotxbe
17th December 2007, 03:05 PM
Powered by tea, cakes and dance hostesses?
they would have to be identified before i could answer that question :p
Paul D Smith
17th December 2007, 04:43 PM
The Coroner finally determined a couple of years ago that Holt's disappearance was an accidental drowning. His family welcomed the decision, hoping it would finally put an end to nutjobs causing them distress by 'just asking questions'.
Edit: I'm not calling the OP a nutjob; I know his post was ironic :-)
Brainache
17th December 2007, 04:56 PM
The Coroner finally determined a couple of years ago that Holt's disappearance was an accidental drowning. His family welcomed the decision, hoping it would finally put an end to nutjobs causing them distress by 'just asking questions'.
Edit: I'm not calling the OP a nutjob; I know his post was ironic :-)
OK Mr Smith (if that is your real name), prove I'm not a nutjob!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
(sorry, I'm getting carried away now. I think the CT disease is contageous)
Janus
17th December 2007, 05:22 PM
Of course he drowned. That's why we have the Harold Holt Memorial Swim Centre (http://www.stonnington.vic.gov.au/www/html/1863-harold-holt-swim-centre.asp) instead of the Harold Holt Memorial Chinese Submarine.
Mobyseven
18th December 2007, 06:25 AM
Janus: Haha...oh, the irony burns.
I love how people can get carried away with the whole Holt thing...as if a drowning on an Australian beach is somehow unusual. Hell, it's Australia - the wildlife, the landscape, the weather...the entire damn country is out to kill you! Gotta love it though... :)
SDC
18th December 2007, 06:30 AM
Unidentified Submerged Object?? Take this, buster! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USO
(United Service Organizations. Do the Brits have something like it called NAAFI?)
Of course, since I got burned on the drop bears thing, maybe I should just tiptoe away and leave Australian topics strictly alone.
Graham2001
18th December 2007, 07:23 AM
Found it – it's a 5 minute documentary (http://dl.filmaust.com.au/module/1167/) from the Prime Ministers' National Treasures series. It briefly mentions some of the CTs, one of which includes perennial suspects, the CIA.
I remember a few years ago someone telling me that LBJ had the CIA do Holt in because he went 'All the Way' with Lady Bird Johnston...:jaw-dropp
Not that I believe a word of it Cheviot was never a safe beach to swim from.
Still it got us Gorton, the only PM to loose office via a no confidence motion in which he voted against himself (it was the deciding vote too...).
That said I think 'The Dish' took terrible liberties with his character.
Beerina
18th December 2007, 01:30 PM
No way. If that were true, the Earth would have to be round.
Of course it's round. Round like a pancake!
timhau
18th December 2007, 10:12 PM
Of course it's round. Round like a pancake!
Explain the four corners of the Earth, then.
PWNED!
LashL
19th December 2007, 09:56 PM
Woot. Only ten years to go before the inevitable, "It was 50 years ago today" thread.
;)
lionking
20th December 2007, 12:08 AM
I was a very good surf swimmer in my youth (club champion at Bondi Surf Club one year) but I would not think of swimming at Cheviot Beach. Death through stupidity.
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