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DutchPhil
19th December 2007, 07:49 AM
Below are relevant fragments of a very recent email exchange I had with Eric Jon Phelps in which I asked him what it means for someone to be Jesuit trained (my questions are in blue, Eric's response is in green):

I would like to know from you what it means for someone to be Jesuit-trained. Does the Jesuit Order keep (close) contact with its pupil for the entire duration of the pupil's life? Do the Jesuits openly manipulate their pupils after their education, steering them into certain directions beneficial to the Order on the excuse of merely 'advising' them? Or do they perhaps do that more stealthily and cunningly, by subtly providing their pupils with information at which the pupil then decides ostensibly by his or hers own volition the course in life ideally never suspecting that the Order is subtly steering them into their preferred direction? How does it pay off to have a Jesuit education? Are Temporal Coadjutors Jesuit-trained by definition?

The Order's Temporal Coadjutors may or may not be Jesuit trained. Those students who are trained by the Jesuits have the greatest possibility of finding a job after graduation. Their education is first, their placement is second and the reason for which the Order trained them. Their grads are found in every profession and walk of life. It is in these vocations that they become the most dangerous, men like Tim Russert and Chris Matthews of the Order's CFR-controlled Press. Many coajdutors are Yale and Harvard Grads. The Order has a Jesuit House at Harvard---the alma mater of Coadjutor Bill O'Reilly. If the Order puts you in political office, it expects you to submit to their advisor, men like Jesuit priest John McLaughlin, the man who wrote Nixon's speeches. If you jettison the Order that put you in office, then you will be punished or killed.

Also I can understand that a person such as Bill Clinton, being a Georgetown graduate, has the opportunity to build up a Jesuitical network from which he and the Order may mutually benefit later in life.

Correct.

However, when it comes to, for instance, a person such as Fidel Castro or Joseph Stalin who were trained at a very early age, I am more at a loss of imagining how the Order maintains control of their pupils.

By sheer power of the machine put them in power. The CIA put Castro in power and has kept him in that power since 1960. The British SIS put Stalin in power and with the CIA, kept him there until he was poisoned for resisting the Order. He arrested his Jesuit advisor Alexander Poskrebyshev in late 1952. He was poisoned in March of 1953 and AP lived to a ripe old age dying in about 1965.

Therefore, could you please explain to me, in your opinion and knowledge, how the Order keeps on manipulating the lives of their pupils especially regarding those who were trained at a very young age?

The Order rewards their minions with money, power, women and anything necessary to keep these slaves happy. The tools also know that to resist this huge monlithic monster will be suicide as he is reminded of the JFK assassination.

DutchPhil
19th December 2007, 07:51 AM
hey

JimBenArm
19th December 2007, 07:53 AM
Hey, hey, hey!

It's Fat Albert!

Gravy
19th December 2007, 07:59 AM
Money? Power? Women? Anything? I am so becoming a Jesuit minion! Where do I sign?

technoextreme
19th December 2007, 08:03 AM
Is this the same John Phelps that everyone wants dead in the most painful of manners?

Gravy
19th December 2007, 08:04 AM
Is this the same John Phelps that everyone wants dead in the most painful of manners?You may be thinking of Fred Phelps, who really hates homosexuals. This Phelps really hates Catholics.

technoextreme
19th December 2007, 08:08 AM
You may be thinking of Fred Phelps, who really hates homosexuals. This Phelps really hates Catholics.
What is it with idiots named Phelps?

16.5
19th December 2007, 08:11 AM
"The Order rewards their minions with money, power, women and anything necessary to keep these slaves happy. The tools also know that to resist this huge monlithic monster will be suicide as he is reminded of the JFK assassination."

Hey, I went to a Jesuit school in Wisconsin. You know this guy is wrong when he said "rewards their minions with money, power, women." Had he said "rewards their minions with beer, beer, beer and cheese" then maybe he would have been on to something.

16.5
19th December 2007, 08:13 AM
"You may be thinking of Fred Phelps, who really hates homosexuals. This Phelps really hates Catholics."

Oh no, Fred really hates Catholics too. I always assumed they were related.

JimBenArm
19th December 2007, 08:20 AM
Fred hates everyone not named Fred Phelps. He's an equal-opportunity hater!

twinstead
19th December 2007, 08:21 AM
Okay now I'm lost; so now it's NOT the Jews?

JimBenArm
19th December 2007, 08:32 AM
Okay now I'm lost; so now it's NOT the Jews?
No, it is the Jews. Jesuit-trained Catholic Jews who are Masons and are in the Illuminati, and left handed. As well as albino hermaphrodites.

It's a very exclusive club.

twinstead
19th December 2007, 08:37 AM
No, it is the Jews. Jesuit-trained Catholic Jews who are Masons and are in the Illuminati, and left handed. As well as albino hermaphrodites.

It's a very exclusive club.

Ah. I knew it. The hermaphrodites clear it up for me. Thanks!

timhau
19th December 2007, 08:42 AM
No, it is the Jews. Jesuit-trained Catholic Jews who are Masons and are in the Illuminati, and left handed. As well as albino hermaphrodites.

Oh crap. For a minute, I thought I had a plan B if the Jews don't let me into their club.

Horatius
19th December 2007, 09:43 AM
What is it with idiots named Phelps?



You'd hate the world too, if you were stuck with a name like "Phelps". It's like the sound a frog makes when it vomits, or something.....

timhau
19th December 2007, 09:53 AM
Yes, even in movies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Phelps) Phelpses eventually turn bad.

Skeptic Guy
19th December 2007, 10:12 AM
I never of this particular conspiracy claim. Very strange.

Just curious as to the rason of the post? Is there a discussion you wish to have regarding the evil Jesuits?

Donal
19th December 2007, 11:32 AM
I've heard of a few Jesuit conspiracies. Fordham University here in the Bronx is a big Jesuit school.

My brother's friend is a Jesuit (mathematical genius). I'll ask him if he is trying to take over the world.

Sabrina
19th December 2007, 12:34 PM
No, it is the Jews. Jesuit-trained Catholic Jews who are Masons and are in the Illuminati, and left handed. As well as albino hermaphrodites.

It's a very exclusive club.

Rats. I only meet one of the criteria.

And get your mind out of the gutters; I'm left-handed! :p

tomwaits
19th December 2007, 12:36 PM
I'm tight with the Catholic Jews. Or is it the Jewish Catholics?

Mr. Skinny
19th December 2007, 03:01 PM
I had a Jesuit education in high school and then went to a Marianist university.

My handler's had this big Jesus-Mary feud, and instead of money, women, and power, I ended up being a ordinary government shill.

If I had known what I was missing, I'd have sued!!!

jhunter1163
19th December 2007, 10:46 PM
I'm president of the local chapter of Jews for Mary. I'm also really, really pale. I'm not a hermaphrodite, though, and I'm also right-handed. Can I still get in?

tomwaits
19th December 2007, 11:02 PM
I'm president of the local chapter of Catholic Jew Liberal Illuminati NWO Scum. And I say, you are a bunch of mindless jerks!

Retrograde
19th December 2007, 11:30 PM
My father had 8 years of Jesuit training, and if he was indeed part of the ruling cabal he kept it a big secret. He did get to meet Kennedy, once (I think). If he was rewarded with power, money and women it must have been very, very subtle.

Mobyseven
20th December 2007, 12:08 AM
No, it is the Jews. Jesuit-trained Catholic Jews who are Masons and are in the Illuminati, and left handed. As well as albino hermaphrodites.

It's a very exclusive club.

Naturally, JimBenArm is the only member of the aforementioned club. All hail!

timhau
20th December 2007, 02:45 AM
My father had 8 years of Jesuit training, and if he was indeed part of the ruling cabal he kept it a big secret. He did get to meet Kennedy, once (I think).

In Dallas?

I Am He
20th December 2007, 03:04 AM
Isn't true that Mr. Phelps was the boss of a super secret Gov agency?? Which by the way can't be mentioned here.

I Am He

JimBenArm
20th December 2007, 04:39 AM
Naturally, JimBenArm is the only member of the aforementioned club. All hail!
Shh! You want I should get kicked out?

Retrograde
20th December 2007, 12:36 PM
In Dallas?

No, in Buffalo - site of another presidential assassination. My grandmother -who was not one to let facts get in the way of a good story - claimed the guy who shot McKinley in Buffalo stayed with my grandfather's cousin the night before. My grandfather, not having been born til afterwards, had no comment.

Speaking of Jesuits and assassinations: at the time many (OK, some) believed the Vatican had some connection to Lincoln's assassination, as one of the conspirators, John Surratt, was educated in a Catholic college and after the assassination fled to Europe where he ended up as a Papal Zouave, this being back when the Pope actually had an army. Technically not a Jesuit organization, but they get their tentacles in everywhere!

As Catholic orders go, the Jesuits are pretty reasonable, so much so that other Catholics sometimes regard them as not quite Catholic. But that's jesuitical hair-splitting.

tomwaits
20th December 2007, 04:01 PM
But weren't the NWO the ones who killed Kennedy?