Counter Punch

[a_unique_person]

How can you not love these guys.

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09172003.html

Who else could have an article titled.

A Vain, Pompous Brown-noser
Meet the Real Gen. Clark

[Shinytop]

After 26 years in the military I learned that every general officer will have a cadre of those touting his abilities and another group of unadulterated jealousy. I know not which is accurate in the case of Gen Clark but I caution everybody to look at every story on both sides with a lot of skepticism.

[Cain]

Alexander Cockburn is cool. Hysterical at times, but very cool. I believe he's more pro-gun than the NRA, and alleges that global warming is a myth.

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by a_unique_person
How can you not love these guys.

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09172003.html

Who else could have an article titled.

A Vain, Pompous Brown-noser
Meet the Real Gen. Clark

Interesting article, unfortunately it has questionable validity. I will look into the allegations since I was thinking about voting for Clark. Thanks for the link AUP.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Cain
Alexander Cockburn is cool. Hysterical at times, but very cool. I believe he's more pro-gun than the NRA, and alleges that global warming is a myth.

I got the impression from the attitude of the place I wouldn't be agreeing with everything they said, but they don't mind stirring up a storm. At least, even if they are opionated as Anne Couldter, they seem to back up their arguments in a slightly more rational fashion.

[Jessica Blue]

Sometimes, when the mainstream swill becomes too much for my digestive system, I head over to Counterpunch for a bracing dose of leftist elixir.


I like Counterpunch and have often found useful titbits of information there. It's a good name because that's exactly what they provide...a refreshing punch in the conservative belly. Someone's gotta do it.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Jessica Blue
Sometimes, when the mainstream swill becomes too much for my digestive system, I head over to Counterpunch for a bracing dose of leftist elixir.


I like Counterpunch and have often found useful titbits of information there. It's a good name because that's exactly what they provide...a refreshing punch in the conservative belly. Someone's gotta do it.

Now you've done it, American doesn't like lefties.

[Jon_in_london]

Erm.. Isnt this the same guy who wanted to kick of WWIII by sending British troops in to do battle with the Russians at Pristina airport?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/671495.stm


General Jackson tells the BBC: ''We were [looking at] a possibility....of confrontation with the Russian contingent which seemed to me probably not the right way to start off a relationship with Russians who were going to become part of my command.''

"I'm not going to start the Third World War for you," he reportedly told General Clark during one heated exchange.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london
Erm.. Isnt this the same guy who wanted to kick of WWIII by sending British troops in to do battle with the Russians at Pristina airport?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/671495.stm



Unfortunately, he is what passes for a moderate in the US armed forces. There is a proud tradition of the likes of Patton and MacArthur. Consider, the US still retains command of the South Korean Army and Bush wants UN help, but only if he can have direct command of it.

[shemp]

Even I have to say that Alexander Cockburn is pathetic. In 1973, he wrote a book titled "Idle passion; chess and the dance of death" in which he spewed all sorts of psychological horsehockey and claimed that all male chessplayers are homosexuals. Everything of his since then is about as poorly written and researched.

[Mike B.]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


Unfortunately, he is what passes for a moderate in the US armed forces. There is a proud tradition of the likes of Patton and MacArthur. Consider, the US still retains command of the South Korean Army and Bush wants UN help, but only if he can have direct command of it.

I think this is completely off the mark.
Since World War II, it is the armed forces that have always been the least likely to want to use force.

In the 1980s Cap Weinberger, Sec. of Defense, never wanted US troops anywhere. Colin Powell was very reluctant to put in any troops as well.

All of this led to Clinton Sec. of State, Albright saying, "We have this wonderful army that never wants to use itself."

Clark was somewhat unpopular in the military for being a bit of too much of a hawk.

Again...
Maybe before your usual knee-jerk anti-American or anti-Israel responses, you might wish to think through them...

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by shemp
Even I have to say that Alexander Cockburn is pathetic. In 1973, he wrote a book titled "Idle passion; chess and the dance of death" in which he spewed all sorts of psychological horsehockey and claimed that all male chessplayers are homosexuals. Everything of his since then is about as poorly written and researched.

As Cain said, he can be hysterical, but what a summary of a general. It sounds like from what Jon_in_London said, he was spot on. Perhaps he just enjoyed trolling when he was bored. You couldn't really take a book like that seriously.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Mike B.


I think this is completely off the mark.
Since World War II, it is the armed forces that have always been the least likely to want to use force.

In the 1980s Cap Weinberger, Sec. of Defense, never wanted US troops anywhere. Colin Powell was very reluctant to put in any troops as well.

All of this led to Clinton Sec. of State, Albright saying, "We have this wonderful army that never wants to use itself."

Clark was somewhat unpopular in the military for being a bit of too much of a hawk.

Again...
Maybe before your usual knee-jerk anti-American or anti-Israel responses, you might wish to think through them...

The idea that the US army has been idle is pretty off the mark. It has been engaged in many low level conflicts, as well as maintaining bases around the world, not to mention Vietnam. Vietnam was the classic case of throwing firepower at a problem. The constant refrain about why the US lost is that they wouldn't let the armed forces use more force.