9-11 Truthers Threaten Violence against Glenn Beck

[Thunder]

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=20528

Its begun. Truthers have officially moved from annoying non-stop questions, to stalking and harrassment, to threats of physical violence against those they oppose.

Glenn Beck has received death threats and now a guy on Loose Change threatens him with violence. Note his posts have NOT been removed.

We all knew this day would come. Truthers will bitch and moan about their freedoms being taken away, and complain about media people calling them a threat and violent. So now, they threaten violence. What will they do if they are arrested and charged with assault? Demand their right to threaten Neo-Cons has been violated?

Truthers and other idiots have every right to peacefully and respectfully air their pathetic views. But they have no right to harrass people in public forums or follow them down the street and call them "murderer" and "NWO scum". And they certainly have no right to call for them to be pushed down a flight of stairs or killed.

9-11 Truthers, the day will come when you will be held accountable for your words and your deeds. And it could'nt come any sooner.

I will now be informing the FBI of any more threats against Glenn Beck and any other citizen of the United States.

[Mince]

Man, one of these days, idiots like Alex Jones and Phil Jayhan are going to be on their death bed and they're going to have to reconcile (in their own minds) the legacy they will leave behind. Do they really want to leave such a legacy of fraud and hatred?

[Cl1mh4224rd]

An astonishing moment of lucidity...
whatever... you guys don't practice what you preach, and that is very clear.


But then...
Instead, if we fight fire with kindness, then all of their arguments against us will fall apart. See?


Sorry, but being nice doesn't mean you aren't crazy.

[Mince]

Sorry, but being nice doesn't mean you aren't crazy.


Yeah, it takes kindness for your arguments to be valid.

[Redtail]

"Gagged whistle blowers"?:boggled:

[johnny karate]

I am unable to access the Loose change forum. Could someone quote the offending post?

[T.A.M.]

This is particularly cordial...

alive and still talking@LCF said:

GLENN BECK is a calculating, dispicable human being for using his power on live television to distort the truth about the truth movement. he knows better than anyone that you can't judge everybody by the actions of one, or a handful of characters. just when I thought he had finished up a nice and polite interview with ron paul, he dropped the bomb.

His act of blaming all truth movement followers for one incident is just another one of his countless blatent lies broadcasted on national TV. these news broadcasters get sick with power and then frequently abuse that power by telling lies and structuring their presentations to sway public opinion.

communicating with such a bastard would be a total waste of time. he is a republican propaganda machine. nothing more, nothing less. tell him to go to russia and work for PUTIN. glenn beck would fit in perfectly over there.

that would suit him best. he certainly isnt doing the people of this country any good
where he is now.

idiots to the last...

TAM

[T.A.M.]

and from the producer of the original LC, Phil Jayhan:


**** Glen Beck. Let him apologize to the Nation for being part of the 911 coverup. And said in the spirit of Penn and Teller, let everyone who sees him on the streets or in a stairwell, push him down that stairwell.

**** apologizing to Glen Beck. Rather push this ********** down a stairwell if any of you ever see him! It worked for Penn & Teller on TV about Eric Hufschmid and it works for us. Not that Eric Huffschmid doesn't deserve to be pushed down a stairwell; He does. but the point has been made.

Glen Beck is an idiot and a co-conspirator. So feel free to push him down the stairwell if you ever see him. So start treating him like you would an active co-conspirator!

**** apologizing to Glen Beck. Push him down a stairwell instead, because he is one of the co-conspirators....

See how that works?

Cheers-
phil :)

P.S. Send an email to Dick Cheney apologizing for abusive things people in 911 say about him because it hurts his feelings...

Ya, its a lot easier to see the foolishness of a post like this when said like that...Isn't it? And in the meantime, if anyone sees Glen Beck, feel free to shove that pecker down a stairwell. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

P.S.S. To Alive & Talking; Perhaps you can find a more annoying and larger footer for all your posts... Why don't you try and find something thats perhaps twice the size? After all, your posts are all about annoyance, are they not? B)

TAM:)

[Mince]

I am unable to access the Loose change forum. Could someone quote the offending post?


by Phil Jayhan

**** Glen Beck. Let him apologize to the Nation for being part of the 911 coverup. And said in the spirit of Penn and Teller, let everyone who sees him on the streets or in a stairwell, push him down that stairwell.

**** apologizing to Glen Beck. Rather push this ********** down a stairwell if any of you ever see him! It worked for Penn & Teller on TV about Eric Hufschmid and it works for us. Not that Eric Huffschmid doesn't deserve to be pushed down a stairwell; He does. but the point has been made.

Glen Beck is an idiot and a co-conspirator. So feel free to push him down the stairwell if you ever see him. So start treating him like you would an active co-conspirator!

**** apologizing to Glen Beck. Push him down a stairwell instead, because he is one of the co-conspirators....

See how that works?

Cheers-
phil :)

P.S. Send an email to Dick Cheney apologizing for abusive things people in 911 say about him because it hurts his feelings...

Ya, its a lot easier to see the foolishness of a post like this when said like that...Isn't it? And in the meantime, if anyone sees Glen Beck, feel free to shove that pecker down a stairwell. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=20528

[Darth Rotor]

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=20528
As I understand it, this gent seems to want someone to push Glenn Beck down a stairwell.

Did I miss anything?

DR

[T.A.M.]

lol...no, you didn't, but given such an act can be fatal, It is threatening, and could easily be perceived as such.

TAM:)

[LastChild]

Well now that settles it doesn't it. I guess all truthers should be rounded up.

Where would you sart and finish?

[Mince]

Well now that settles it doesn't it. I guess all truthers should be rounded up.

Where would you sart and finish?


Who said anything about all? Quit pouting and acknowledge that Phil Jayhan is a neanderthal who advocated violence.

[Darth Rotor]

Well now that settles it doesn't it. I guess all truthers should be rounded up.

Where would you sart and finish?
I would sart somewhere existential. ;)

DR

[Mince]

I would sart somewhere existential. ;)

DR


But beware! If you enter, there may be no exit.

[Pardalis]

This is at the end of the first post on that thread:

I believe the person(s) who threatened him KNEW he would talk about it on the air. Hmm....

So the threatening letters are a conspiracy...

Didn't see that coming!

[LastChild]

Who said anything about all? Quit pouting and acknowledge that Phil Jayhan is a neanderthal who advocated violence.

Ok. So which ones? How many have threatened violence?

[Mince]

Ok. So which ones? How many have threatened violence?


Well, I'm sure there have been many over time, but right now the discussion is limited to the recent Loose Change thread in which Phil Jayhan advocated violence.

[Hokulele]

Ok. So which ones? How many have threatened violence?


The big problem is not so much the number of them threatening violence, but the lack of people within those threads condemning such threats.

[Thunder]

Lastchild wants us to say "we should round up all Truthers, Communists, Anarchists, Muslems, and anyone else who opposed George Bush". That way he can justify his paranoid beliefs.

Sorry Lastchild. Your deep need to become a persecuted martyr will not be fulfilled here.

But anyone who threatens violence and/or harrasses people should indeed be arrested.

[johnny karate]

What a despicable lot they are over there. And LastChild, I'm not sure what you hope to gain by your implicit defense of people like this. If anything, it just reaffirms the already low opinion of you that most of us have. Nice work!

[beachnut]

Well now that settles it doesn't it. I guess all truthers should be rounded up.

Where would you sart and finish?
9/11 truth thinks they are right and some have disrupted others to shout their lies. 9/11 truth is full of lies, propagated by people too dumb to know better. Like Tim McVeigh, some truthers can not understand reality, and with 9/11 truth essentially blaming the government for killing 3000 people, it is not hard to see the dumb followers of 9/11 truth to take some stupid action to fix the government.

Many times 9/11 truth members or believers have threaten to hang those who tell the truth when they take over. 9/11 truth thinks they have the evidence, and they have nothing. Zip!

How do you cure idiots who can not think for themselves? Those who would hang the people telling the truth?

Bet they were saying the same about people like McVeigh, no they would not do anything violent! Sure Tim park right here, we in OKC are very friendly, why not blow up innocent people. 9/11 truth tells lies, if they create a McVeigh then you can say you helped spread the lies that made someone take action you never did. Pathetic.

[dbalsdon]

So has anyone thought of complaining to invisionboards about the forum? Surely they wouldn't want one of the forums they host, promoting violence?

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Yeah, it takes kindness for your arguments to be valid.


Truth is love. Love is truth. Fill your arguments with love and they are filled with truth. Win! :rolleyes:

[AMTMAN]

Is it me or does it seem that the ones that make threats are usually cowards at heart.

[Brainster]

As I understand it, this gent seems to want someone to push Glenn Beck down a stairwell.

Did I miss anything?

This is clearly intended as a takeoff on Penn Gillette's suggestion that if you see somebody with Eric Hufschmid's book, push him down a flight of stairs. I'm no fan of Jayhan, but this is not something I'd make a stink over.

[leftysergeant]

Well now that settles it doesn't it. I guess all truthers should be rounded up.

Where would you sart and finish?

Start with the known white nationalisrts and psychopaths. Bollyn, Hufschmid, D.B. Smith and Kevin Barrett.

Hey! Why would they complain? It's been done before by leaders they admire. Auschwitz was just a relocation camp, right?

[stilicho]

Start with the known white nationalisrts and psychopaths. Bollyn, Hufschmid, D.B. Smith and Kevin Barrett.

Hey! Why would they complain? It's been done before by leaders they admire. Auschwitz was just a relocation camp, right?
You forgot Alex Jones, the Clown Prince of the "New Police State".

Anyhow, crackpots like those you mention are begging to have a "round-up". The producers of Loose Change proudly advertise that simple possession of their video could get you sent summarily to Gitmo.

One of the essential problems with the "Truth Movement" is that none of their dire predictions have come true. They are entirely free to move about the country, sojourn in Morocco while pretending to look for living suicide pilots, and yelp incoherent slogans from bullhorns without having any of their constitutional rights violated. Not to mention fleecing the unwitting of their hard-earned income.

Their dreams of FEMA detention camps, indoctrination through vaccines, and providing fodder for 12-foot invisible lizards remain lurid fantasies that they just can't keep out of their heads.

[T.A.M.]

Off the top of my head, truthers that have threatened violence...

Kevin Barrett
Jackchit (now banned from here)
Phil Jayhan
Alex Jones

that is in the first 30 seconds of thinking.

Name a single debunker that has threatened violence...I'll give you a freebee...Troy

TAM:)

[stilicho]

But anyone who threatens violence and/or harrasses people should indeed be arrested.
"Truther" trap #82: The US military, Pentagon planners, and the occupants of the White House must therefore be sent to international war crimes tribunals for threatening Saddam and the Iraqi people with violence.

Sorry, couldn't resist. :cool:

[LastChild]

So then call them out for being violent or racist. Some of the people named I'm sure had their problems long before 9/11 ever even happened. Is everyone who believes the official version incapable of violence?

[IMST]

So then call them out for being violent or racist.

Good idea, LastChild. here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=101867) is the thread where we call out Phil Jayhan for advocating violence against Glenn Beck.

[CptColumbo]

So then call them out for being violent or racist. Some of the people named I'm sure had their problems long before 9/11 ever even happened. Is everyone who believes the official version incapable of violence?No, but we have more weapons at our disposal that don't require violence. For example, rational thought and evidence.

[DGM]

So then call them out for being violent or racist. Some of the people named I'm sure had their problems long before 9/11 ever even happened. Is everyone who believes the official version incapable of violence?
Why are you telling us? Why don't you go to LCF and condemn this behavior. After all it does make the whole movement look bad, no?

[stilicho]

So then call them out for being violent or racist. Some of the people named I'm sure had their problems long before 9/11 ever even happened. Is everyone who believes the official version incapable of violence?

I've seen some pretty wicked-looking NWO kitties in fighting form.

[LastChild]

No, but we have more weapons at our disposal that don't require violence. For example, rational thought and evidence.

If this forum is evidence of anything it's that being sane is not a prerequisite to believing the official version.

[Corsair 115]

If this forum is evidence of anything it's that being sane is not a prerequisite to believing the official version.But accepting mountains of evidence is. As opposed to the CT hypothesis, which offers no evidence, just speculation, innuendo, and supposition.

[LastChild]

But accepting mountains of evidence is. As opposed to the CT hypothesis, which offers no evidence, just speculation, innuendo, and supposition.

Well maybe some of that mountain of evidence will make a mole hill of an appearance one of these days here at JREF or anywhere else for that matter. For instance what is this thread suppose to be evidence of besides stupidity?

[Mince]

Is it me or does it seem that the ones that make threats are usually cowards at heart.


I don't know about cowardice, but Jayhan only makes that statement because he reasonably assumes that making it will have little to no repercussion. Despite the "dire" circumstances most of them claim to be in, very few (any?) do anything involving any type of real risk; and I mean real risk.

[CptColumbo]

Well maybe some of that mountain of evidence will make a mole hill of an appearance one of these days here at JREF or anywhere else for that matter. For instance what is this thread suppose to be evidence of besides stupidity?
It's evidence that some of the posters at LC:FC are resorting to threatening violence, since they have nothing else to bring to the table..

[dbalsdon]

Well maybe some of that mountain of evidence will make a mole hill of an appearance one of these days here at JREF or anywhere else for that matter.

And with that, he's the 2nd addition to my "Come on Darwins. Hurry up and take effect" ignore list.

[Stellafane]

Well now that settles it doesn't it. I guess all truthers should be rounded up.

Where would you sart and finish?

I would personally start with Kevin Barrett. Since he has gone on record as saying that anyone who writes in criticism of the 9/11 Truth Movement should die on the scaffold -- and since I have done so, published in a newspaper, with my name and address attached -- then Mr. Barrett has in effect called for my execution. So I'd start with him, which could be viewed as simply a matter of self defense.

See? Unlike you guys, I'm not afraid to name names.

And speaking to the larger issue behind the OP, I've long feared that this day would come. The 9/11 Truth Movement has always been about a few hapless, disaffected people wanting to call attention to themselves and feel like they belong to a worthwhile cause and have some meaning in their lives. With the erosion of the movement down to an insignificant little cadre, what's left of these people are facing what they fear most: not opposition, which they feed off, but rather being ignored. So in desperation, I think it's likely that some of them will turn to more and more outrageous behavior to show the world that they're still relevant. The first sign of this will be talk and threats of violence, followed (if no one pays them the attention they crave) by violence itself. I fear it's all but inevitable; it's just a matter of time.

[dbalsdon]

And speaking to the larger issue behind the OP, I've long feared that this day would come. The 9/11 Truth Movement has always been about a few hapless, disaffected people wanting to call attention to themselves and feel like they belong to a worthwhile cause and have some meaning in their lives. With the erosion of the movement down to an insignificant little cadre, what's left of these people are facing what they fear most: not opposition, which they feed off, but rather being ignored. So in desperation, I think it's likely that some of them will turn to more and more outrageous behavior to show the world that they're still relevant. The first sign of this will be talk and threats of violence, followed (if no one pays them the attention they crave) by violence itself. I fear it's all but inevitable; it's just a matter of time.

Might be sick to even think it, but I reckon it's just a matter of time till we hear on the news of a school shooting, carried out by a "truther"

.

[Corsair 115]

Well maybe some of that mountain of evidence will make a mole hill of an appearance one of these days here at JREF or anywhere else for that matter.It's been posted here many, many times. That you refuse to accept it is your problem.

[CHF]

Well now that settles it doesn't it. I guess all truthers should be rounded up.

Where would you sart and finish?

Yeah, having the government treat you like the dangerous revolutionaries you pretend to be.

That would be your dream come true, wouldn't it?

[CptColumbo]

Yeah, having the government treat you like the dangerous revolutionaries you pretend to be.

That would be your dream come true, wouldn't it?The "twoof" movement is revolting alright. :)

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[CHF]

Might be sick to even think it, but I reckon it's just a matter of time till we hear on the news of a school shooting, carried out by a "truther"


I'd say a government office or a media headquarters is probably a more likely target. Although if some twoofer does attack a school it will probably be directed against an engineering department.

And no, it's not sick to think this at all.

Some twoofers have shown all the warning signs of mass shooters, including actual threats of violence. Just a matter of time...

[Coffee]

Yeah, having the government treat you like the dangerous revolutionaries you pretend to be.

That would be your dream come true, wouldn't it?

They want to be like the Weathermen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_%28organization%29) but they can't. The Weathermen did not let a little rain stop them. :)

Eventually one or more twoofers will take the step the Weathermen did and use violence to "wake people up". This was not effective for the Weathermen and it will not work for twoofers.

[Gravy]

I like my punishment better. (See my sig.)

[pomeroo]

Well now that settles it doesn't it. I guess all truthers should be rounded up.

Where would you sart and finish?


I'd start and finish with you. I'd offer you a choice between being tortured to death very slowly or reading a serious book. And I'd give you only 48 hours to decide.

Yeeeoooouch!! Am I sadistic, or what?

[Hokulele]

I'd start and finish with you. I'd offer you a choice between being tortured to death very slowly or reading a serious book. And I'd give you only 48 hours to decide.

Yeeeoooouch!! Am I sadistic, or what?


Does the book have any pictures? YouTube links?


[/not serious!]

[pomeroo]

Does the book have any pictures? YouTube links?


[/not serious!]


Well, maybe a few pictures, but NO YOUTUBE! (Am I bad, or am I bad?)

[Hokulele]

Badder than old King Kong, and meaner than a junkyard dog.

[HereticHulk]

Wait, this Glenn Beck?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctwqnkWdCJg

[pomeroo]

Badder than old King Kong, and meaner than a junkyard dog.


Just try tugging on Superman's cape, spittin' in the wind, or pullin' on the mask of the ol' Lone Ranger when I'm around!

[T.A.M.]

Wait, this Glenn Beck?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctwqnkWdCJg

Let me address this the same way I do with my seven year old...I am sure that you will understand...

TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT!!!

TAM:)

[Corsair 115]

Just try tugging on Superman's cape, spittin' in the wind, or pullin' on the mask of the ol' Lone Ranger when I'm around!Don't forget tickling the dragon's tail.

[leftysergeant]

First time I really noticed there was such a critter as Glen Beck, he was talking about some piece of legislation that Senator Charles Schumer was pushing. Beck called him "Chuck Joooooomer." So no, I do not think at all highly of Beck and would not mourn his demise, but I would want the perpetrators of any violence against him captured and tried.

Unless, of course, the RaHoWa were underway by that time. That's different.

[Horatius]

For instance what is this thread suppose to be evidence of besides stupidity?




When stupidity is what we're opposing, that's really all the evidence we need.

[Elizabeth I]

Well now that settles it doesn't it. I guess all truthers should be rounded up.

Where would you sart and finish?

I would sart somewhere existential. ;)

DR

...or on Thomas Carlisle's bookshelf...or in a tailor's shop...

[Good Lt]

Well maybe some of that mountain of evidence will make a mole hill of an appearance one of these days here at JREF or anywhere else for that matter. For instance what is this thread suppose to be evidence of besides stupidity?

Still haven't proved 9-11 was an inside job, LC?

Nope. Didn't think so.

Keep swinging for the bleachers, champ.

[Sean Liberal]

Might be sick to even think it, but I reckon it's just a matter of time till we hear on the news of a school shooting, carried out by a "truther"
.

Your right. It is sick to even think about it.

[Sean Liberal]

I'd say a government office or a media headquarters is probably a more likely target. Although if some twoofer does attack a school it will probably be directed against an engineering department.

And no, it's not sick to think this at all.

Some twoofers have shown all the warning signs of mass shooters, including actual threats of violence. Just a matter of time...

This is also pretty revolting. To come to this conclusion based on the idle threats of 1 or 2 poor saps is alarming.

[TheRedWorm]

Welcome to the forums, Sean!

[leftysergeant]

One or two saps can be a pretty significant sample of a community as small as the Loose Screws gang.