MaGZ’s political predictions

[MaGZ]

MaGZ’s political predictions:

Ron Paul comes in third in Iowa behind Huckabee and Romney.

A day or two later Dennis Kuchinich drops out of the race and makes history by endorsing a candidate in the Republican Party: Ron Paul.

Ron Paul wins in New Hampshire but fails to secure the Republican nomination.

Ron Paul and Dennis Kuchinich run as a ticket on the Unity 08 third party against Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton.

[Pardalis]

People who give a **** = 0

[Kerberos]

Kerberos Political predictions:

Ron Paul won't win a single state.

Ron Paul supporters will cry conspiracy, and totally ignore the fact that Ron Paul simply has a very narrow appeal.

[fuelair]

People who give a **** = 0If MZ is full of it, does he/she give one?:D

Just asking a question.:D

[NeoRicen]

Worst Predictions ever.

While we're matching Ron Paul and Kucinich, why don't we have a Clinton/Giuliani ticket, or a Gravel/Huckabee ticket.

How about you just look at Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich's political positions, THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

Also Ron Paul has ruled out running if he doesn't get the Republican nomination.

[ZenFountain]

The only confident predication I'm prepared to make is that Paul, Hunter Keyes, Richardson, Biden, Dodd, Kucinich and Gravel are out. Beyond that, Edwards and Thompson desperately needs wins in the early states if their campaigns are to continue past January. The Republican nomination is still difficult to dissect but I see Romney and McCain emerging as the ones to beat, Huck is all sensation and Giuliani is tumbling fast.

Frankly I don't care whether Kucinich endorses the Democratic candidate or not, if he doesn't want to play ball he should represent himself as Dennis Kucinich I-OH and try winning reelections as an independent.

[MaGZ]

Worst Predictions ever.

While we're matching Ron Paul and Kucinich, why don't we have a Clinton/Giuliani ticket, or a Gravel/Huckabee ticket.

How about you just look at Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich's political positions, THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

Also Ron Paul has ruled out running if he doesn't get the Republican nomination.

Actually I think they would be the perfect pair for a Unity 08 ticket. Unity 08 is committed to having a presidential and a vice presidential candidate from different parties on their ticket.

Both are against the war, both are against the Patriot Act, both think there is more to learn about why 9/11 happened. No, they do not agree on everything but they both want to be in the White House and joining as a team could get them there.

Unity 08 will be a third party next year and on the ballot in most if not all of the states. There is only one candidate in the race that has a chance in running as a successful third party candidate: Ron Paul. Kucinich if he is smart, will join because he has everything to gain and nothing to lose.

Ron Paul has not totally rulled out a third party run.

[Gnu World Order]

Actually I think they would be the perfect pair for a Unity 08 ticket. Unity 08 is committed to having a presidential and a vice presidential candidate from different parties on their ticket.

But not from entirely different philosophies.



Both are against the war, both are against the Patriot Act, both think there is more to learn about why 9/11 happened.

Lots of people are against the war. Sorry, but the Patriot Act and 9/11 conspiracy theories will be complete non-issues in the 2008 election.

Unity 08 will be a third party next year and on the ballot in most if not all of the states. There is only one candidate in the race that has a chance in running as a successful third party candidate: Ron Paul. Kucinich if he is smart, will join because he has everything to gain and nothing to lose.

Laughable.

[corplinx]

The Unity ticket would go on to get less votes than Ralph Nader.

[dudalb]

The Unity ticket would go on to get less votes than Ralph Nader.

It would be so easy to prove that Ron Paul And Dennis Kucinich disagree about just about everything except Iraq and some Civil Liberty issues that the party would collpase of it's own inconsistencies.
I also have a feeling that Kucinich would be destroying his position as one of the major spokesmen of the American Left by running with somebody as far right as Paul is on many issues.
And why am I wasting time disproving a dumb prediction by our resident Neo Nazi anyway?

[NeoRicen]

If Unity '08 chose those 2 as candidates then what the hell would be their platform?

Free Health Care! ... NOT!
No Abortions! ...NOT!
Scrap Taxes! ... NOT

I'm being serious, there is no way they could run a campaign, they disagree on almost everything.

[leftysergeant]

Unity 08 is a joke. I have seen jello nailed more firmly to a tree than their positions on anything are expressed on their website.

Probably just a bunch of cranks.

[dudalb]

Unity 08 is a joke. I have seen jello nailed more firmly to a tree than their positions on anything are expressed on their website.

Probably just a bunch of cranks.

Their only philosophy seems to be "The Establishment Sucks."
That might be true,but it seems to me you have to come up with a LOT more then that to become a viable force in American politics.
This whole "Throw out the Establishment,and we don't care what it is replaced with" is so stupid that I have problems with how anybody can support it.

[ConspiRaider]

Actually I think they would be the perfect pair for a Unity 08 ticket. Unity 08 is committed to having a presidential and a vice presidential candidate from different parties on their ticket.

Both are against the war, both are against the Patriot Act, both think there is more to learn about why 9/11 happened. No, they do not agree on everything but they both want to be in the White House and joining as a team could get them there.

Unity 08 will be a third party next year and on the ballot in most if not all of the states. There is only one candidate in the race that has a chance in running as a successful third party candidate: Ron Paul. Kucinich if he is smart, will join because he has everything to gain and nothing to lose.

Ron Paul has not totally rulled out a third party run.
You forgot to mention how they both feel about the Jews.

Stop goose-stepping for just a second and understand this: Paul will probably run as a 3rd party candidate because he sure as living hell won't get the Repub nomination. Plus, not much to lose, for him. He's probably dog tired of being a Representative and realizes he's not going anywhere else in Washington. So - get those crowds and those speaking engagements and some notoriety. And cash.

Kucinich isn't going to be joining Ron Paul. First, Kucinich already said he would not. But - it does Kucinich no good, splinters him off if he goes wandering off into UnityLand or RepubLand. He should be smart enough to realize that Congress is where he does best. Now as a Representative. In the future, maybe a Senator?

The only thing Paul and Kucinich have in common is they're both white. You should rejoice in that.

Resume goose-stepping.

[dudalb]

I don't even think Paul will run as an indie.
I think he knows he has no chance in hell of winning. And he will give up his seat in Congress to do so,which means as of Jan 2009 he is a nobody without a platform. I think he will opt to stay in Congress and have a platform to spread his ideology,which I think is what he is really about anyway. If he was serious about winning the nomination,he would have had a much better organized and ran campaign then he has had up to now.
Paul has also stated he would not make a third party run. He could always go back on that,but a lot of his image for being honest and open would go down the tube except for the true beleivers if that happened.
Kucinich will probably never get beyond Representative. He is way too far to the left to win in a Swing state like Ohio.

[Loss Leader]

A day or two later Dennis Kuchinich drops out of the race and makes history by endorsing a candidate in the Republican Party: Ron Paul.



Dennis Kucinich - loyal Democrat since 1967. But whatever.

[Brainster]

Am I the only person who thinks most of the Ron Paul fans around here have no experience with political campaigns and that is not going to change in 2008?

[leftysergeant]

Their only philosophy seems to be "The Establishment Sucks."
That might be true,but it seems to me you have to come up with a LOT more then that to become a viable force in American politics.
This whole "Throw out the Establishment,and we don't care what it is replaced with" is so stupid that I have problems with how anybody can support it.

That is sort of the same track that white nationalists take when they put on their sheep suits to go ravening about liberal boards.

They just stir up the muck in hopes of creating a vaccuum into which they can insert their favorites, or bring the whole fabric of society down on itself so that they can play the heroic restorers of order.

Libertarians and anti-establishmentarians of all stripe are so incapable of governing that disaster would have to follow on the heels of their victory.

Disasters are very nurturant of tyrants.

[Pardalis]

MaGZ’s political predictions:

Ron Paul comes in third in Iowa behind Huckabee and Romney.

A day or two later Dennis Kuchinich drops out of the race and makes history by endorsing a candidate in the Republican Party: Ron Paul.

Ron Paul wins in New Hampshire but fails to secure the Republican nomination.

Ron Paul and Dennis Kuchinich run as a ticket on the Unity 08 third party against Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton.

Boy were you ever wrong.

[RandFan]

MaGZ’s political predictions:

Ron Paul comes in third in Iowa behind Huckabee and Romney.

A day or two later Dennis Kuchinich drops out of the race and makes history by endorsing a candidate in the Republican Party: Ron Paul.

Ron Paul wins in New Hampshire but fails to secure the Republican nomination.

Ron Paul and Dennis Kuchinich run as a ticket on the Unity 08 third party against Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton.:D

Not even close.

[hgc]

Who was it who predicted in early summer that Obama's nomination would be up-ended and Clinton would get the nod? Was that MaGZ, or some other Kookamunga crackpot?

[parky76]

its not Kookamunga...its La Kookaracha.

=)

[Oliver]

I like MaGZ's version of "http://forums.randi.org/helloworld2/buttons/firstnew.gif (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=129803) A post from the future (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=129803) http://forums.randi.org/helloworld2/misc/new_window.gif (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=129803)". My prediction back then was
that Ron Paul couldn't win and that either Obama or Hillary would be the next Prez.

[parky76]

only a true idiot would have thought Paul would have win the nomination..let alone the election.

as to obama beating hillary...AND john mccain? that is a surprise.

[Oliver]

only a true idiot would have thought Paul would have win the nomination..let alone the election.

as to obama beating hillary...AND john mccain? that is a surprise.


McCain was in the single-digits when MaGZ made the post and
shortly after that he raised like a phoenix from the ashes for no
plausible reason. No one would've thought that he could be the
nominee back then.

[RandFan]

only a true idiot would have thought Paul would have win the nomination..let alone the election. Speaking of predictions... George Stephenopolus nailed it...

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[CapelDodger]

Boy were you ever wrong.

Thanks for resurrecting this. MaGZ gave hostages to short-term fortune; if we didn't slit their throats now his brave gesture would be rendered meaningless. It's an unpleasant job, but somebody has to do it.

[hgc]

Speaking of predictions... George Stephenopolus nailed it...

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LOL. There sure are some clever people out there splicing together video.

[CapelDodger]

Speaking of predictions... George Stephenopolus nailed it...

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:D

MaGZ nailed his flag to that guy's mast? Apparently so. Explicitly, even. Voluntarily. Eagerly.

Oh boy ... :rolleyes:

[RandFan]

LOL. There sure are some clever people out there splicing together video.I know but the unedited video isn't much different. George really told Paul he wasn't going to get elected. I just couldn't find the unedited version without any effort. Sue me. :)

FTR: If anyone is clever it's George. I've got great respect for him.

[RandFan]

Here is the original. See 7:21

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[hgc]

I know but the unedited video isn't much different. George really told Paul he wasn't going to get elected. I just couldn't find the unedited version without any effort. Sue me. :)

FTR: If anyone is clever it's George. I've got great respect for him.


Oh, I never doubted that it was an accurate reflection of what happened. It's the emphasis through repetition, accompanied by catchy music, that inspired my admiration. They took about 10 seconds of video, and stretched it waaaaaay out, all the time keeping it interesting.

[CapelDodger]

Here is the original. See 7:21

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What's weird is that Ron Paul speaks so much sense and then runs with it to the outer reaches of libertarianism.

[CapelDodger]

Oh, I never doubted that it was an accurate reflection of what happened. It's the emphasis through repetition, accompanied by catchy music, that inspired my admiration. They took about 10 seconds of video, and stretched it waaaaaay out, all the time keeping it interesting.

And as propaganda it's devastating.

[RandFan]

Oh, I never doubted that it was an accurate reflection of what happened. It's the emphasis through repetition, accompanied by catchy music, that inspired my admiration. They took about 10 seconds of video, and stretched it waaaaaay out, all the time keeping it interesting.:) Cool.

[lionking]

Okay, I am not about to defend anything MagZ has ever posted, but who here, 12 months ago predicted an Obama landslide? This is not a trick question, I would just like to see if anyone made an accurate prediction (Oliver's prediction of Obama or Hilary doesn't count).

[Safe-Keeper]

MaGZ’s political predictions:

Ron Paul comes in third in Iowa behind Huckabee and Romney.

A day or two later Dennis Kuchinich drops out of the race and makes history by endorsing a candidate in the Republican Party: Ron Paul.

Ron Paul wins in New Hampshire but fails to secure the Republican nomination.

Ron Paul and Dennis Kuchinich run as a ticket on the Unity 08 third party against Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton.You damned fool, get it right, will you?

Wait til the event passes, then make predictions. Psychic 101.

:p

[hgc]

Okay, I am not about to defend anything MagZ has ever posted, but who here, 12 months ago predicted an Obama landslide? This is not a trick question, I would just like to see if anyone made an accurate prediction (Oliver's prediction of Obama or Hilary doesn't count).


Um, not making any predictions is not the same as making a wacky string of crackpot crazy predictions. Paul/Kucinich? How about the St. Peter/Lucifer ticket for the position of God?

[timhau]

You damned fool, get it right, will you?

Wait til the event passes, then make predictions. Psychic 101.


Unfortunately, MaGZ doesn't do any better with events that have already transpired.

[1337m4n]

MaGZ’s political predictions:

Ron Paul comes in third in Iowa behind Huckabee and Romney.

A day or two later Dennis Kuchinich drops out of the race and makes history by endorsing a candidate in the Republican Party: Ron Paul.

Ron Paul wins in New Hampshire but fails to secure the Republican nomination.

Ron Paul and Dennis Kuchinich run as a ticket on the Unity 08 third party against Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton.

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[Safe-Keeper]

Unfortunately, MaGZ doesn't do any better with events that have already transpired.Hmm, yeah, true.

[RandFan]

Okay, I am not about to defend anything MagZ has ever posted, but who here, 12 months ago predicted an Obama landslide? This is not a trick question, I would just like to see if anyone made an accurate prediction (Oliver's prediction of Obama or Hilary doesn't count).I didn't make a prediction but I threw my support behind Obama. The salient point is that it was ridiculous to speculate that Ron Paul would win. There was no basis for such a prediction. It was counter to everything we know about the US presidential race.

[MattusMaximus]

Okay, I am not about to defend anything MagZ has ever posted, but who here, 12 months ago predicted an Obama landslide? This is not a trick question, I would just like to see if anyone made an accurate prediction (Oliver's prediction of Obama or Hilary doesn't count).

Well, this doesn't count, but I distinctly recall my wife telling me as early as November of 2007 that Obama was going to win. She even made up this little song that she'd sing around the house just to tease me about her prediction.

At the time, I had hopes for Obama, but I thought that realistically Clinton was going to run away with it.

And then along came Iowa... :eye-poppi

[EventHorizon]

Okay, I am not about to defend anything MagZ has ever posted, but who here, 12 months ago predicted an Obama landslide? This is not a trick question, I would just like to see if anyone made an accurate prediction (Oliver's prediction of Obama or Hilary doesn't count).

You know, when I saw Obama speak at the DNC 4 years ago, I said to my wife that he would be our first black president. Of course, I never would have guessed it would happen in 4 years; I was thinking more like in 20-32 years.

[Pardalis]

The moral of the story is, be careful making predictions on an internet forum, 'cause someone might bookmark it. :D

Also, MaGZ's accuracy is worse than a psychic, which is saying alot.

[1337m4n]

Also, MaGZ's accuracy is worse than a psychic, which is saying alot.

"Even a stopped clock is right twice a day".

That someone can be so wrong so often is truly amazing.

[PhantomWolf]

"Even a stopped clock is right twice a day".

Not if it's digital.....