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Ruby
18th September 2003, 10:06 AM
a book called "Walking away from faith" by Ruth A. Tucker?

One of my Husband's brothers sent it to us. He has been the only family member that my hubby has talked to about our lack of faith and belief in Christianity anymore. He has been very kind and understanding......having had his own struggles........still, he remains a Christian.

The author of the book is a Christian and went through a time of doubts herself...but bounced back. The book does not come across as an apologetics type book.....but maybe it's one in disguise?

Anyone know anything about it? It just came in the mail to day so I have not read it.

roger
18th September 2003, 10:15 AM
Haven't read it, but the few Amazon reviews sound promising. It sounds like it is not a book of apologetics; as one review writes "But in the end Tucker doesn't offer readers hope".

Yahweh
18th September 2003, 07:50 PM
I try to think of faith as a medical/psychological disease.

Originally posted by Ruby
The author of the book is a Christian and went through a time of doubts herself...
In medicine, this would be called remission...

but bounced back.
Oops, relapse...


(Faith as a disease?... Who would possibly consider extreme granduerist convictions/delusions in belief of a mythical fairytale land a disease...)

TruthSeeker
18th September 2003, 08:00 PM
Ruby,

A couple of sites that might interest you:

Christian review (http://www.gospelcom.net/cgi-ivpress/book.pl/code=2332)

Tucker writes not just as a detached observer but as one who has also struggled with doubt and disappointment. In Walking Away from Faith, she shares her from her experience and tells you why she continues to choose faith. Reading her story and her interviews of others, you will find help for working through your own questions and doubts. You will also find insight for ministering to your friends, family, coworkers and neighbors who stumble between belief and unbelief.

The author's website (http://www.gospelcom.net/ivpress/questioningfaith/) where she will answer your questions about faith

Good luck

Filippo Lippi
19th September 2003, 02:53 AM
Will it spoil your reading if I reveal the end? Look away now if it will.

God did it

Filippo Lippi
19th September 2003, 02:55 AM
I also have a scene from Scooby-Doo playing in my mind, you know the one (or probably several) where the old man flags down the Mystery Machine and tells them to turn round because the bridge is out?

a_unique_person
19th September 2003, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by Ruby
The book does not come across as an apologetics type book.....but maybe it's one in disguise?

Anyone know anything about it? It just came in the mail to day so I have not read it.

Those Xians, they'll use any trick to get you back in their fold.

Ruby, read whatever you want, and try to see it through your own eyes and sensibility, which is, ultimately, all anyone can do. Also try reading 'Demon Haunted World'. I am finding it very interesting.

Filippo Lippi
19th September 2003, 03:23 AM
Yeah, it's like one of those cults we're warned about.

Who'd have thunk it?

LuxFerum
19th September 2003, 05:57 AM
I would read anything funny, why worry about the unsolved mysteries of universe?:D

Ruby
19th September 2003, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by roger
Haven't read it, but the few Amazon reviews sound promising. It sounds like it is not a book of apologetics; as one review writes "But in the end Tucker doesn't offer readers hope".

Thanks:)

Ruby
19th September 2003, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Yahweh
I try to think of faith as a medical/psychological disease.


In medicine, this would be called remission...


Oops, relapse...


(Faith as a disease?... Who would possibly consider extreme granduerist convictions/delusions in belief of a mythical fairytale land a disease...)

As I'm reading this book, I am finding myself wondering why the author holds onto her *faith* when she has so many doubts and knows there are some things that can't be answered. I guess I'll keep reading.....but I feel sorry for her.

Ruby
19th September 2003, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Ruby,

A couple of sites that might interest you:

Christian review (http://www.gospelcom.net/cgi-ivpress/book.pl/code=2332)



The author's website (http://www.gospelcom.net/ivpress/questioningfaith/) where she will answer your questions about faith

Good luck

Thank you!!:wink8:

Ruby
19th September 2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Fillipo Lippi
Will it spoil your reading if I reveal the end? Look away now if it will.

God did it

:jaw: :D

Ruby
19th September 2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by a_unique_person


Those Xians, they'll use any trick to get you back in their fold.

Ruby, read whatever you want, and try to see it through your own eyes and sensibility, which is, ultimately, all anyone can do. Also try reading 'Demon Haunted World'. I am finding it very interesting.

I am sure there is some inner hope in my brother-in-law's mind that he can "win" us back to Christianity. I think he sent the book because of that inner hope, but also because he has lived with doubts as a Christian, and understands what we are going through. I actually appreciate his gentle manner. What I dread is disappointing him when I say the book did not help convince me to turn back to God.......although the book is not exactly written in an apologetic fashion.....which, in a way, makes it that much more likely to convince someone to "return" to Christianity. I can't see that happening with me.....but not so sure about my hubby.

It's been so hard on him...having been raised as a devout Christian in religious cult (isolated cult community in NH). Christianity is all he has ever known. He does not know where to get his bearings from. How to have faith...in what to have faith...what we will teach our two little children....and where you get your moral base from. I keep telling him to post here as you guys could really help him. He's just so busy. He says he'd like to post here....so maybe he will find the time.

Some Friggin Guy
20th September 2003, 12:25 AM
Ruby,

Tell you husband that what he needs to have faith in is not a god, but a man: himself. He needs to understand that he does not need a supernatural force in his life to tell him what to do, or right from wrong. He has that knowledge in him.

Regardless of anything the church has told him (and I know the kind of ble they will spew about non-religious types. I was there, remember.) There are millions, if not billions, of moral people in this world who either have no god or a different god from Christians. They can be moral people because they understand the difference between right and wrong, not because some mystic being told them.

As to what to teach your children, that is your call. If you want to expose them to religion and have them make up their own mind, then I would say do it carfeully. If you want to shield them from it, I wouldn't blame you for that.

Eos of the Eons
20th September 2003, 04:02 PM
Very Good Post SFG

Eos of the Eons
20th September 2003, 04:09 PM
Very Good Post SFG, I think this got posted before I was done though...

Anyway, I guess it's hard for me to understand this struggle people go through when they are in search for truth and find it outside of religion when they are still stuck inside of it.

I sense a fear of the unknown or fear of abandonment from friends and family.

I just find people don't need to know my background on subjects like religion.

Once you can detach from religion and still be close to your friends and family, then I hope it won't be such an issue. It's better to just enjoy each other's company and not worry about what one does on Sunday or whatever. Heck, I go to church once in a blue moon when the occasion calls for it (funerals, weddings, etc.) I respect the reverence people hold for such places.

People that hold something like that against you aren't worth your time. It's their problem, not yours. I like it when I find out a person is a close minded whatchamacallit, so that I don't have to waste my time trying to be what they want.

I'm hoping you gain more respect rather than lose contacts in this experience though.

Good luck with it all, especially during the holiday season.

billydkid
20th September 2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Some Friggin Guy
Ruby,

Tell you husband that what he needs to have faith in is not a god, but a man: himself. He needs to understand that he does not need a supernatural force in his life to tell him what to do, or right from wrong. He has that knowledge in him.

Regardless of anything the church has told him (and I know the kind of ble they will spew about non-religious types. I was there, remember.) There are millions, if not billions, of moral people in this world who either have no god or a different god from Christians. They can be moral people because they understand the difference between right and wrong, not because some mystic being told them.

As to what to teach your children, that is your call. If you want to expose them to religion and have them make up their own mind, then I would say do it carfeully. If you want to shield them from it, I wouldn't blame you for that.

What's more is that believers are, in fact, having faith in other people and not some supernatural source (though they may believe otherwise.) Where else do you hear about God but from other people - ministers, parents, all those folks wrote or compiled or edited the "sacred" text that you rely on. Faith in God is in fact faith in what a bunch of other people told you. You are right, trust yourself and not other people. After, you wouldn't expect other to take your word for it about the nature of the universe.