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MaGZ
29th December 2007, 07:41 PM
If it came down to Obama vs. Paul, White America will vote for Ron Paul.
leftysergeant
29th December 2007, 08:05 PM
America will vote for a man who believes in science and the value of labor and human rights before they will vote for a racist, superstitious whackadoodle who panders to all that is base and selfish in human nature. Sorry about that, RPbots.
Hokulele
29th December 2007, 08:09 PM
Lucky for us it is extremely unlikely to come down to that.
Redtail
29th December 2007, 08:23 PM
It won't come down to that, but what makes you think "White America" thinks like you?
corplinx
29th December 2007, 09:57 PM
Could we get this thread moved to the Ron Paul subforum?
Brainster
29th December 2007, 10:10 PM
Is this supposed to be a positive point for Paul?
Loss Leader
29th December 2007, 10:12 PM
If it came down to Obama vs. Paul, White America will vote for Ron Paul.
There is no White America. Everything that's wrong with you exists in your inability to understand that.
Matteo Martini
29th December 2007, 10:12 PM
Obama is not that bad, my second best choice
Axiom_Blade
29th December 2007, 10:31 PM
If it came down to Obama vs. Paul, White America will vote for Ron Paul.
A person's ability to be president has nothing to do with the color of his/her skin. Most of America, "white" or otherwise, agrees with me.
Richard Masters
30th December 2007, 12:29 AM
If it came down to Obama vs. Paul, White America will vote for Ron Paul.
I'm sure "black America" will vote for Ron Paul as well.
Although, I don't see the value in dividing people into groups based on the color of their skin. If you are racist, maybe you do.
Richard Masters
30th December 2007, 12:31 AM
America will vote for a man who believes in science and the value of labor and human rights before they will vote for a racist, superstitious whackadoodle who panders to all that is base and selfish in human nature. Sorry about that, RPbots.
What does your comment have to do with anything?
Richard Masters
30th December 2007, 12:32 AM
Obama is not that bad, my second best choice
He and Richardson are usually my second choices.
OneShotKi11
30th December 2007, 01:00 AM
America will vote for a man who believes in science and the value of labor and human rights before they will vote for a racist, superstitious whackadoodle who panders to all that is base and selfish in human nature. Sorry about that, RPbots.
Lets not lie to ourselves now and make America out to be better then it is! We all know that if it came down to Ron Paul vs Obama white America would vote for RP while most of Black America would vote for Obama.
Also please point to the evidence in which you make such claims. Please show me Ron Paul and his racists actions and statements. Please show me his superstitious ways and where he seems to be selfish and inhuman nature.
Axiom_Blade
30th December 2007, 02:46 AM
Also please point to the evidence in which you make such claims. Please show me Ron Paul and his racists actions and statements. Please show me his superstitious ways and where he seems to be selfish and inhuman nature.
Here ya go! One-stop shopping. (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/5/193414/2787)
LawnOven
30th December 2007, 03:03 AM
Obama is not that bad, my second best choice
You can vote in the US presidential election?
Lothian
30th December 2007, 03:29 AM
If it came down to Obama vs. Paul, White America will vote for Ron Paul.Who is Ron Paul ? I have never heard of him.
Edited to add.
Don't worry. I have looked him up. Running last in the Republican polls I don't think I'll ever need to use his name and can safely delete it from my memory bank.
quarky
30th December 2007, 08:11 AM
perhaps a touch off-topic, but why are people of mixed race referred to as black, when they are often more caucasion than negro?
Dr Adequate
30th December 2007, 08:13 AM
If it came down to Obama vs. Paul, White America will vote for Ron Paul. Current opinion polls (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/favorables/election_2008_democratic_candidates_running_in_200 8_presidential_election) show that in an Obama vs. Paul contest, Obama would win, with Paul getting only 31% of the vote.
There must be fewer White Americans than I thought.
NoZed Avenger
30th December 2007, 09:06 AM
It won't come down to that, but what makes you think "White America" thinks like you?
That was simply a keyboard mistake. It should read "White Supremacist America."
WildCat
30th December 2007, 09:27 AM
If it came down to Obama vs. Paul, White ignorant racist idiotic Americans will vote for Ron Paul based solely on skin color.
Fixed that for ya MaGZ. Don't bother thanking me, in fact you can go back to Stormfront now and stay away from here forever. Not that you will, but a man can dream...
leftysergeant
30th December 2007, 01:14 PM
There are a lot of racists left in America, but education is converting a lot of them, even. A lot of them now find themselves with mixed-race grandchildren and the realization that the people they used to think of as "mud people" really are human.
Racism is not being taught in schools as the natural order of things. Laws no longer drive artificial wedges between populations of different races.
I don't think that race alone is a factor that will sway the election between two candidates of such disparate ability. There are few people so fixated on race that they will vote for an obvious crank over one of the brightest, most articulate candidates in the country. Running RP as President would tie a rotting albatross around the neck of the GOP and they would be decades trying to remove the stench.
quarky
30th December 2007, 01:36 PM
Racism will likely cease to be a problem when most kids are multi racial, and their kids are even more so.
Should we ever become so evolved, the new racial hatred would be directed at the purer bred ethnic types. You wouldn't want to be too dark or too light, unless you had a high-pay gig at a freak show in Vegas.
Hybridization rocks, right?
leftysergeant
30th December 2007, 01:46 PM
Hybridization rocks, right?
There have been two pure races in the time that mankind has existed and neither of them survived in that state. The greatest advances in culture and adaptability arose where different stocks inter-acted and interbred.
How many Neanderthalers or Tasmanians do you see these days?
Michael Redman
30th December 2007, 02:05 PM
If it came down to Obama vs. Paul, White America will vote for Ron Paul.No I won't.
Kerberos
30th December 2007, 02:08 PM
There have been two pure races in the time that mankind has existed and neither of them survived in that state. The greatest advances in culture and adaptability arose where different stocks inter-acted and interbred.
How many Neanderthalers or Tasmanians do you see these days?
How is Homo Sapiens less pure than Neanderthals?
quarky
30th December 2007, 02:23 PM
Prejudicially, those Neandertals simply smelled bad.
Who cares if they had a larger cranium?
we had to kill them.
Cro magnum man kicks butt.
(its what we do)
leftysergeant
30th December 2007, 03:24 PM
How is Homo Sapiens less pure than Neanderthals?
Different genetic stocks, migrating back-and-forth, inter-acting and inter-breeding. The Neanderthalers were isolated, and represented a very small, uniform genetic pool.
The Tasmanians were isolated and unable to compete with the Europeans when they arrived, and survive only as descendants of mixed Australian aborigines and Europeans. Breed out or die out seems to be the norm.
Actually, despite the tests done on a few Neanderthaler remains, there is a chance that Aryans were the children of Neanderthalers who met in-coming Africans. More likely it was the Neanderthaler males who contributed their white genes to the African women. Neanderthaler women would not have been any kind of prize in the eyes of the African men.
Genetic lines of great antiquity can only be traced with any certainty through the mitochondrial DNA, which is borne entirely in the female line.
I would really like to see what tests on the Predmosti remains, if feasible, would produce. Without the mandibles, a lot of those specimens could be mistaken for neaderthalensis.
MaGZ
30th December 2007, 06:24 PM
Current opinion polls (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/favorables/election_2008_democratic_candidates_running_in_200 8_presidential_election) show that in an Obama vs. Paul contest, Obama would win, with Paul getting only 31% of the vote.
There must be fewer White Americans than I thought.
How do you know they are telling the pollsters the truth when it comes to race?
MaGZ
30th December 2007, 06:36 PM
Different genetic stocks, migrating back-and-forth, inter-acting and inter-breeding. The Neanderthalers were isolated, and represented a very small, uniform genetic pool.
The Tasmanians were isolated and unable to compete with the Europeans when they arrived, and survive only as descendants of mixed Australian aborigines and Europeans. Breed out or die out seems to be the norm.
Actually, despite the tests done on a few Neanderthaler remains, there is a chance that Aryans were the children of Neanderthalers who met in-coming Africans. More likely it was the Neanderthaler males who contributed their white genes to the African women. Neanderthaler women would not have been any kind of prize in the eyes of the African men.
Genetic lines of great antiquity can only be traced with any certainty through the mitochondrial DNA, which is borne entirely in the female line.
I would really like to see what tests on the Predmosti remains, if feasible, would produce. Without the mandibles, a lot of those specimens could be mistaken for neaderthalensis.
Aryans are directly descended from the Cro-Magons of Europe. Asians and Africans are related to Cro-Magons only if they mixed with Cro-Magon genes.
NeoRicen
30th December 2007, 07:43 PM
How do you know they are telling the pollsters the truth when it comes to race?
Are you saying the respondents didn't know Obama was black?? :confused:
Hokulele
30th December 2007, 08:59 PM
Aryans are directly descended from the Cro-Magons of Europe. Asians and Africans are related to Cro-Magons only if they mixed with Cro-Magon genes.
!?
leftysergeant
30th December 2007, 10:01 PM
!?
I think we have here a good reason why white nationalists would prefer to have a president who is cool with school systems that replace the teaching of evolution with Creationism. Don't want the little tykes learning about evolution and how all Homo sapiens sapiens radiated out of Etheopia, now do they?
I'm betting that a Cro-Magnon belle looked more like Halle Berry than like Darryl Hanna.
Loss Leader
31st December 2007, 06:25 AM
Aryans are directly descended from the Cro-Magons of Europe. Asians and Africans are related to Cro-Magons only if they mixed with Cro-Magon genes.
What a startlingly ignorant statement. I've always wanted to meet a person whose scientific knowledge hasn't advanced since 1874.
Matteo Martini
31st December 2007, 07:11 AM
He and Richardson are usually my second choices.
Who is Richardson?
You can vote in the US presidential election?
I am marrying an American girl just to become American citizen and vote in 2008
NeoRicen
31st December 2007, 07:34 AM
Who is Richardson?
I am marrying an American girl just to become American citizen and vote in 2008
Am I the only one that finds that funny?
WildCat
31st December 2007, 07:36 AM
I am marrying an American girl just to become American citizen and vote in 2008
You do realize you don't become a citizen simply by marrying an American, don't you?
Lothian
31st December 2007, 07:43 AM
You do realize you don't become a citizen simply by marrying an American, don't you?Love, honour and OBEY.
Kerberos
31st December 2007, 07:49 AM
Am I the only one that finds that funny?
It's either funny or sad. perhaps both.
Lonewulf
31st December 2007, 08:01 AM
How do you know they are telling the pollsters the truth when it comes to race?
Yes, it was entirely a conspiracy. They showed them a picture of Obama with his skin painted pink, and kept all of these people shut away from the television so they could never see a "real" image of Obama.
Seriously, you white supremacists crack me up.
Michael Redman
31st December 2007, 08:20 AM
Yes, it was entirely a conspiracy. They showed them a picture of Obama with his skin painted pink, and kept all of these people shut away from the television so they could never see a "real" image of Obama.
Seriously, you white supremacists crack me up.And they changed his name to Barney O'Bama.
fishbob
31st December 2007, 12:56 PM
. . . . . Running RP as President would tie a rotting albatross around the neck of the GOP and they would be decades trying to remove the stench.
In the name of Reagan, what makes you think they would want to 'remove the stench'?
daredelvis
31st December 2007, 01:03 PM
What a startlingly ignorant statement. I've always wanted to meet a person whose scientific knowledge hasn't advanced since 1874.
Just move to Texas and get to know your local school board.
Trust me, you wouldn't.
Daredelvis
MaGZ
31st December 2007, 01:04 PM
I think we have here a good reason why white nationalists would prefer to have a president who is cool with school systems that replace the teaching of evolution with Creationism. Don't want the little tykes learning about evolution and how all Homo sapiens sapiens radiated out of Etheopia, now do they?
I'm betting that a Cro-Magnon belle looked more like Halle Berry than like Darryl Hanna.
Show me some evidence where Cro-Magnon man was ever found to inhabit Ethiopia or any other place in Africa.
leftysergeant
31st December 2007, 01:33 PM
And just what differentiates Cro Magnon from other Homo sapiens sapiens?
Hokulele
31st December 2007, 01:38 PM
And just what differentiates Cro Magnon from other Homo sapiens sapiens?
Because zhey are French, non? Ze French are ze most superiaihr of any peoples, so any superiaihr race must come from zhere. Vive la France!
Dr Adequate
31st December 2007, 11:52 PM
How do you know they are telling the pollsters the truth when it comes to race? Whatever ill-formed and semi-expressed excuse for Paul's poor showing is congealing in your paranoid mind would seem to be contradicted by the fact that the same poll shows Obama tying with Giuliani (white, 43%) and beaten by McCain (white, 45%). Despite Obama being equally black whomever he's running against.
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Wait ... why am I trying to explain the obvious to a White Nationalist?
Like that ever works.
Matteo Martini
2nd January 2008, 02:27 AM
You do realize you don't become a citizen simply by marrying an American, don't you?
Really??
What is the movie "Green Card" all about, then?
OK.
Mine was a joke.
Please, go ahead with the discussion
timhau
2nd January 2008, 02:44 AM
But who does Purple America vote for?
http://www.pbs.org/parents/images/tvprograms/program-art-barney.gif
Mister Agenda
2nd January 2008, 09:24 AM
The OP, IMO, should have been 'If it came down to Obama, and any Republican candidate (who are all white), White America will vote for the Republican candidate.'
Unless there's some particular reason to believe White America would vote for Obama if McCain gets the Republican nomination.
quarky
2nd January 2008, 05:10 PM
voting is less fun for me now, what with all the rumors about how suspect the electronic machines are.
while we nit-pick over details, the enchilada is severely threatened.
Tsukasa Buddha
2nd January 2008, 05:29 PM
But who does Purple America vote for?
http://www.pbs.org/parents/images/tvprograms/program-art-barney.gif
Nader :p .
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