Worst Ron Paul Ad Ever

[Richard Masters]

If anything gets me to reconsider support for Ron Paul, it will be this ad. He is probably trying to get Tancredo's supporters behind him, but this ad is just disgusting propaganda that goes against everything Ron Paul has said about foreign policy.

http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2007/12/30/worst-ron-paul-ad-ever/

[NeoRicen]

What a surprise, another Ron Paul supporter proves he has no clue about Ron Paul's real positions.

They are his real positions. Apart from the use of the phrase 'Terrorist nations' everything there matches his policies and previous statements.

Statements from the ad:

Physically secure the border
Ron Paul does support this, it doesn't go against anything he's said in the past. He voted for the building of the border fence.
Our most important task is to focus on effectively patrolling our borders. With our virtually unguarded borders, almost any determined individual – including a potential terrorist – can enter the United States. Unfortunately, the federal government seems more intent upon guarding the borders of other nations than our own.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul269.html

No Amnesty
This is Ron Paul's actual position, he opposes amnesty for illegal immigrants.
The president claims that America lacks the political will to deport the eight to twelve million illegal aliens already here, so we have no choice but to grant them visas. But what message does this send to the rest of the world? If we reward millions who came here illegally, surely millions more will follow suit. Ten years from now we will be in the same position, with a whole new generation of lawbreakers seeking amnesty. The Bush administration proposal does not provide a coherent immigration policy, nor does it address the urgent need for stricter control of our borders. The overwhelming majority of Americans – including legal immigrants – want immigration reduced, not expanded.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul150.html

No Welfare to Illegal Aliens
Once again this is Paul's actual position, though hardly surprising as he doesn't support welfare at all.
We must end welfare state subsidies for illegal immigrants. Some illegal immigrants – certainly not all – receive housing subsidies, food stamps, free medical care, and other forms of welfare. This alienates taxpayers and breeds suspicion of immigrants, even though the majority of them work very hard.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul269.html

End Birthright Citizenship
Once again, this is Ron Paul's real position. He's even trying to pass a constitutional amendment to achieve this goal because, unfortunately for him, birthright citizenship is in the constitution (so much for standing for the constitution).
I’ve introduced legislation that would amend the Constitution and end automatic birthright citizenship.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul346.html

No More Student VISAs from Terrorist Nations
Once again, this IS Ron Paul's position. He even proposed his own legislation to achieve this:
That is why I am introducing the “Terror Immigration Elimination Act of 2003.” This bill will deny student and “diversity” visas to anyone coming from a country currently on the State Department’s list of terrorism-sponsoring countries.
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=656

So, given that all the content in that ad is COMPLETELY in line with Ron's positions, and the fact it was well produced means this is far from the Worst Ron Paul ad ever. It's actually quite good. It's his positions that are the worst ever.

[Richard Masters]

"What a surprise, another Ron Paul supporter proves he has no clue about Ron Paul's real positions."

Actually I knew about Birth-Right Citizenship and his anti-illegal immigration stance. I have tolerated a few of those stances. The only thing I was unfamiliar with was grouping students with "terrorist nations".

Ron Paul has never grouped people like this. It doesn't even match his foreign policy.

So in fact, I have known his positions all along. People are currently emailing the campaign to complain about the ad.

Sorry to disappoint your pre-conceived notions, but the only thing I didn't know about was regarding student visas. I might actually pull my support due to this.

EDIT: Good job on actually posting references.

[NeoRicen]

"What a surprise, another Ron Paul supporter proves he has no clue about Ron Paul's real positions."

Actually I knew about Birth-Right Citizenship and his anti-illegal immigration stance. I have tolerated a few of those stances. The only thing I was unfamiliar with was grouping students with "terrorist nations".

Ron Paul has never grouped people like this. It doesn't even match his foreign policy.

So in fact, I have known his positions all along. People are currently emailing the campaign to complain about the ad.

Sorry to disappoint your pre-conceived notions, but the only thing I didn't know about was regarding student visas. I might actually pull my support due to this.


Sorry if you posted that after I gave all the references and quotes, but they are indeed his positions and I've now given proof.

EDIT: Sorry, I've done the same thing.

[Richard Masters]

Sorry if you posted that after I gave all the references and quotes, but they are indeed his positions and I've now given proof.

EDIT: Sorry, I've done the same thing.

No problem. I'll have to reconsider.

[LawnOven]

Haha, I love the little history lesson in that add.

Welcomed immigrants for generations, my ass. What a bunch of BS.

Well theres another reason not to Vote for Ron Paul; he's also stupid.

[maxpower1227]

Look, I'm as anti-Ron Paul as anybody, but what exactly is bad about ending birthright citizenship or securing our border?

I can certainly understand opposing him because of his belief in crackpot conspiracy theories or his utterly ridiculous foreign policy, or even his desire to set the clock back 70 years and return to the gold standard. But these seem like some of his most reasonable positions.

[ZenFountain]

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[MaGZ]

"What a surprise, another Ron Paul supporter proves he has no clue about Ron Paul's real positions."

Actually I knew about Birth-Right Citizenship and his anti-illegal immigration stance. I have tolerated a few of those stances. The only thing I was unfamiliar with was grouping students with "terrorist nations".

Ron Paul has never grouped people like this. It doesn't even match his foreign policy.

So in fact, I have known his positions all along. People are currently emailing the campaign to complain about the ad.

Sorry to disappoint your pre-conceived notions, but the only thing I didn't know about was regarding student visas. I might actually pull my support due to this.

EDIT: Good job on actually posting references.

So Ron Paul might win the Republican nomination running as a Republican instead of as a Democrat.

[Richard Masters]

So Ron Paul might win the Republican nomination running as a Republican instead of as a Democrat.

If being a retard about "terrorist nations" makes you a Republican these days, then that may be the case.

[MaGZ]

If being a retard about "terrorist nations" makes you a Republican these days, then that may be the case.

There are terrorist nations. One in the Middle East comes to mind.

[Richard Masters]

There are terrorist nations. One in the Middle East comes to mind.

Terrorism is defined by media. So are "terrorist nations".

http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2008/01/01/students-with-visas-not-even-a-threat/

[Grimes]

Terrorism is defined by media. So are "terrorist nations".

http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2008/01/01/students-with-visas-not-even-a-threat/

Hint: He's talking about a nation that begins with "I" ends with "l" and has a "srae" in the middle.

Discourse with MaGZ rots the brain.

[Richard Masters]

Hint: He's talking about a nation that begins with "I" ends with "l" and has a "srae" in the middle.

Discourse with MaGZ rots the brain.

Ron Paul would specifically consider Saudi Arabia a terror-sponsoring nation, but if you are going for the idiot vote, you have to appeal to idiots who think Iran and Palestine are existential threats. And people who get scared when they think about Mexicans.

I disapprove of the ad and banning birthright citizenship, but I approve securing the border while maintaining a reasonable immigration rate.

Of course, I understand labeling Israel a "terrorist nation", but don't agree with labeling people from Israel "terrorists" as a result (or any other nation, consequentially.)