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Temporal Renegade
30th December 2007, 05:53 AM
And, at $10,000,000, it's a bargain!

Better hurry, though...there's a time limit to bid on it (no joke):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Time-Travel-Theory-Project_W0QQitemZ140192550055QQihZ004QQcategoryZ13 10QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

fls
30th December 2007, 06:06 AM
I notice that he takes Mastercard. I only have a five-figure limit on my Mastercard. I wonder just who has an eight-figure limit?

On the other hand, it seems a perfect set-up for a commercial. "Visiting Helen of Troy to see what all the fuss was about? Priceless."

Linda

Temporal Renegade
30th December 2007, 06:09 AM
I notice that he takes Mastercard. I only have a five-figure limit on my Mastercard. I wonder just who has an eight-figure limit?

On the other hand, it seems a perfect set-up for a commercial. "Visiting Helen of Troy to see what all the fuss was about? Priceless."

Linda

Then those barbarians on the CitiBank commercial would be *real*, and therefore much cooler, I'd think! :D

madurobob
30th December 2007, 06:21 AM
No payments due for 3 months if you use you ebay mastercard!

I wonder if we could entice Mr Francis to discuss his ideas here... he'd fit right in:

He's a mason (no not THAT kind, he's an actual mason):
I am a Christian Man of God. 47 years old. I am a student of God, Science, and Philosophy, and a Lifetime Builder. A Master Mason. I own Cornerstone Masonry , Cornerstone General Contracting...


And, the inspiration came to him in a vision that left him psychologically impaired for three years:

Then it came to me in a Revelation. There was a Way. There is a Way. & This is the Way. I Believe it to be Inspired. Its Weight and Magnitude gave me P.T.S.D. for 3 years. I am much better now, Thank God.

I'll bet he'd be a huge help with billnreno's pyramid project. I also wonder what impact his time-travel revelations have had on his religious outlook.

Temporal Renegade
30th December 2007, 06:27 AM
Plus, I wonder just how much of the money he gets for it, would go 'to God'....

brodski
30th December 2007, 06:38 AM
Don't bother bidding, I won it next week.
I sent it back the day before and asked for a refund as it wasn't much cop.

this charming man
30th December 2007, 06:48 AM
bah, who needs that?

I time travel every day; It's very easy.

madurobob
30th December 2007, 06:56 AM
bah, who needs that?

I time travel every day; It's very easy.

unidirectionally

Cainkane1
30th December 2007, 07:38 AM
And, at $10,000,000, it's a bargain!

Better hurry, though...there's a time limit to bid on it (no joke):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Time-Travel-Theory-Project_W0QQitemZ140192550055QQihZ004QQcategoryZ13 10QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The past is over and the future hasn't happened yet. If time travel were possible then the universe would be in a perpetual state of chaos because people would be going bck in time and disrupting and changing things.

madurobob
30th December 2007, 07:44 AM
The past is over and the future hasn't happened yet. If time travel were possible then the universe would be in a perpetual state of chaos because people would be going bck in time and disrupting and changing things.

How do you know its not?

Scott Haley
30th December 2007, 08:54 AM
The seller doesn't know How To Use Capitalization.

If you don't have to pay for three months, you could buy it, use it, and never have to pay.

The Man
30th December 2007, 09:12 AM
The past is over and the future hasn't happened yet. If time travel were possible then the universe would be in a perpetual state of chaos because people would be going bck in time and disrupting and changing things.



Why? How could you know or what test could you use to determine that the past from now and back is the same as the past form 5 minuets ago and back five minutes from now? Since the only reference you would have would be that past which we might postulate, that due to a time traveler acting during those five minutes from now, has now changed. So how can we demonstrate that the past is in fact over and does not change if our only reference is that changing past? Technically the future is happening right now with the events of the past and the present combining to bring a definitive result to the future probabilities. The past was the future at some point just as the future will become the past at some other point. Feynman-Wheeler absorber theory postulates that what we perceive as a forward time emission and absorption of a particle is in fact comprised of a half amplitude forward time (retarded) wave and an 180 degrees out of phase reverse time (advanced) wave that combine in phase to result in the full amplitude wave of the particle going from the emitter to the absorber. One might make the assertion that the present (which is all we truly interact with) is simply comprised of equal portions of both the past and the future.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feynman-Wheeler_theory


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_interpretation

Soapy Sam
30th December 2007, 09:39 AM
If spacetime is one thing, then travel in space is also travel in time- ie it's 400 miles from Glasgow to London, which is 1-6 hours by plane or train and near three weeks on a pogo stick.
One supposes time travel likewise involves travel in space. The only way you can travel back in time ten minutes, must involve going from where you are now to where you were then, via every spacetime point in between. Anything else involves matter creation, as there must be two of you at any given point in time.

But wait a mo!

Where I was ten minutes ago in relation to what? Where I was then is either in space, or inside the planet by now.

I'm staying put. At least for the foreseeable future.

fishbob
30th December 2007, 10:33 AM
The past is over and the future hasn't happened yet. If time travel were possible then the universe would be in a perpetual state of chaos because people would be going bck in time and disrupting and changing things.

Look at the headlines and tell me that this is not already happening.

bokonon
30th December 2007, 11:13 AM
I was thinking, "what in idiot," because the eBay payment structure with which I'm familiar requires a percentage of the initial asking price as a "listing fee," and $10million is a big chunk of change. But looking at it, it's a "classified ad," which probably means a flat listing fee, and also means there's no bidding on the item -- you call the guy, pump him for information, learn enough to build the device without him, go back in time to watch the "SIDS" event, and file for a patent. On second thought, what an idiot...

XBoxWarrior
30th December 2007, 11:27 AM
Dude, I'm In.......

I will buy that ****......then win the MDC ten times over.....

Randi rest in peace.

My CC has an unlimited charge amount!

Just thinking
30th December 2007, 11:50 AM
... But wait a mo!

Where I was ten minutes ago in relation to what? Where I was then is either in space, or inside the planet by now.

I'm staying put. At least for the foreseeable future.

Ah ha ... you have stumbled upon what I found to be a very difficult obstacle in "time travel" theory ---> the instantaneous transportation of matter. If you were expected to somehow go back 10 minutes in time (say, through some sort of portal) and end up back at your desk (or wherever you were then) ... and let's for the moment ignore the two yous that would then be present ... you would also need to transport yourself through the space you moved in those 10 minutes. (The Earth and solar system are moving, you know ... quite rapidly.) You cannot move this distance as you normally would through forward time, as you would run into matter from every which direction you were traveling with when going forward. It would be sort of like avoiding all the traffic on a multi-lane highway if you were to somehow start going in the opposite direction. Going with the traffic is just fine --- against it ... death! So you would have to do it via jumping this distance and ending up at your destination instantaneously.

XBoxWarrior
30th December 2007, 11:53 AM
Ah ha ... you have stumbled upon what I found to be a very difficult obstacle in "time travel" theory ---> the instantaneous transportation of matter. If you were expected to somehow go back 10 minutes in time (say, through some sort of portal) and end up back at your desk (or wherever you were then) ... and let's for the moment ignore the two yous that would then be present ... you would also need to transport yourself through the space you moved in those 10 minutes. (The Earth and solar system are moving, you know ... quite rapidly.) You cannot move this distance as you normally would through forward time, as you would run into matter from every which direction you were traveling with when going forward. It would be sort of like avoiding all the traffic on a multi-lane highway if you were to somehow start going in the opposite direction. Going with the traffic is just fine --- against it ... death! So you would have to do it via jumping this distance and ending up at your destination instantaneously.

All that is meaningless........once I have the 1,000,000 US dollars......

I have the HIGHEST bid in. ;)

peace

Just thinking
30th December 2007, 12:10 PM
All that is meaningless........once I have the 1,000,000 US dollars......

I have the HIGHEST bid in. ;)

peace

Good for you!! :D

Hey ... after you win, you can go back in time and prevent yourself from winning ... er, spending your money.

Soapy Sam
30th December 2007, 12:16 PM
And you can unscrambe some eggs and claim the JREF million at the same time!
In fact, you can do it yesterday.
But you didn't.

I wonder if you will have done it yesterday by tomorrow?

I need another drink...

XBoxWarrior
30th December 2007, 12:26 PM
And you can unscrambe some eggs and claim the JREF million at the same time!
In fact, you can do it yesterday.
But you didn't.

I wonder if you will have done it yesterday by tomorrow?



Well, as fact have it......it was 'done' yesterday........just ask Sylvia.....

I am spending the money as we speak........new IPOD, new Lapper, New House.......Hell, it's all on my unlimited CC, so I havw won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

peace

p.s. see you at the TAM

fuelair
30th December 2007, 12:57 PM
And, at $10,000,000, it's a bargain!

Better hurry, though...there's a time limit to bid on it (no joke):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Time-Travel-Theory-Project_W0QQitemZ140192550055QQihZ004QQcategoryZ13 10QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


I assume this is not Theory as it is used in science but, rather, theory as it is used in "I am a nutjob/ripoff artist" situations.

Soapy Sam
30th December 2007, 06:21 PM
And it turns into a mouse at midnight.

thatguywhojuggles
30th December 2007, 06:35 PM
After Ten Years of Research and Hard Work, our Discovery Indicates that the Possibility of Time Travel exists. It is a very Complex and Precise Formula. Under Precise Conditions this is Possible and Achievable. This Document & Project is completely Original and Exclusive ...

Why do these people either leave their caps lock on, or in this case, capitalize every other word!?

Temporal Renegade
31st December 2007, 08:49 AM
I assume this is not Theory as it is used in science but, rather, theory as it is used in "I am a nutjob/ripoff artist" situations.

Doesn't really say....

Guess we'll just have to 'take it on faith'...