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zakur
19th September 2003, 10:40 AM
Gay 'family' denied entry to U.S. (http://www.bibz.com/cgi-bin/db2www/pord_detail_edit.d2w/report)

A Canadian gay couple has been refused entry into the United States after filling out joint customs forms as a family.

The two men - Joe Varnell and Kevin Bourassa who are legally married under Ontario law - refused to fill out separate forms and cancelled their trip, to a human rights conference in Georgia.

The US Embassy in Ottawa defended the action by US immigration officials at Toronto airport, saying that the 1996 US Defence of Marriage Act defined marriage as "only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife."

Tmy
19th September 2003, 11:12 AM
Would it be so difficult to fill out 2 forms. Why must everyone always pick fights.

My brother and I are family. Im sure we'd have to fill out 2 forms.

arcticpenguin
19th September 2003, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Tmy
Would it be so difficult to fill out 2 forms. Why must everyone always pick fights.

My brother and I are family. Im sure we'd have to fill out 2 forms.
Would it be so difficlut for those n------ to ride in the back of the bus? Why must everyone always pick fights?

mjv
19th September 2003, 11:31 AM
They were not denied entry for being gay, they were denied entry because they refused to fill out the proper forms.

Sounds like a publicity stunt to me.

Tmy
19th September 2003, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by arcticpenguin

Would it be so difficlut for those n------ to ride in the back of the bus? Why must everyone always pick fights?

Were not talking about americans fighting for rights. We're talkinhg evil subversive Canada-adians looking to destroy the US like they have since the dawn of time!!!

When in Rome baby. Its ok to beat your wife in other countries, but you cant do it in the US. Well....... you'r not supposed too.

reprise
19th September 2003, 01:55 PM
Given the legal implications of recognising the validity of marriages which have been celebrated under another nation's laws, I am not surprised that many countries choose to define what marriage is and then reject the validity of any union which does not fit meet those criteria.

My guess is that even countries like Australia (and we're a signatory to the Hague Convention of the Celebration and Recognition of the Validity of Marriages, for goodness sake) will wait to see what legislation the Canadian federal government enacts in relation to this issue before making any changes in their own current policy. The new Canadian legislation could change the existing status of those same sex marriages which have already taken place under provincial law.

I can't see the US extending the legal entitlements which are concommitant with the legal status of "married" to same sex couples any time soon, and I think we're just going to see more and more reports of incidents like this one.

Do those Canadian provinces which do allow same sex couples to marry allow same sex marriages between couples where one or both parties are not citizens of Canada? If so, I can see whole issue turning into an administrative nightmare for both Canada and the US.

American
19th September 2003, 02:02 PM
So change the law already, and quit talking about it. Maybe the gays and the pot heads should unite and work toward legalizing that which they know they will never achieve.