David Icke accusses Bush of paedophilia

[Horace Wheeljack]

David Icke keeps making these horrible accussations, i understand its extremely unlikely that Bush would take legal action but could Icke get into trouble for this stuff? I've also heard him accusse the Queen of sacrificing children.

For anyone who isnt familiar with David Icke, he was a former goalkeeper turned sports presenter, declared himself son of God on a chat show, now he writes books and gives talks on conspiracies involving reptilian shape-shifting overlords.

Here's the link from last saturday's Russel Brand show on the BBC where Icke makes the claim that "Bush is a notorious paedophile".

http://www.multi-illusion.com/mp3s/david_icke_on_russell_brand_-_05.01 .2008.mp3 (http://www.multi-illusion.com/mp3s/david_icke_on_russell_brand_-_05.01.2008.mp3)

[CurtC]

I don't think that there is anything for Bush to gain from even acknowledging this kind of insanity.

[BenBurch]

I mean, I know Bush is a ****er, but not a kiddie ****er. Sheesh.

Incompetent Preznit who got a bunch of American Soldiers killed needlessly is bad enough for ME.

[OldTigerCub]

David Icke's ranting about alien reptoids is enough to make him disappear from the radar of most mainstream media, let alone be taken seriously. I would doubt that his comments about Bush get any attention from the Whitehouse.

[CptColumbo]

Doesn't "notorious" mean widely and unfavorably known? This is the first I've heard about it and I'm pretty sure that if I asked the "person on the street" they probably wouldn't know anything about it as well. Is that appeal to popularity or something else since it isn't true?

[A W Smith]

I have no ides and don't care who David Icke is. Is he like a village idiot who also is insane? Too many penalty shots to the head perhaps?

[CptColumbo]

I have no ides and don't care who David Icke is. Is he like a village idiot who also is insane? Too many penalty shots to the head perhaps?
Religion
Conspiracies
UFOs
He's got a triple crown of woo. Resting right where the ball struck.

[volatile]

Don't forget "a bloodline of extra-terrestrial shape-shifting Jewish lizards running the world". That was the "bloodline" he alluded to in the interview...

He's a former sports reporter who announced in 1991, on a chatshow, that he was the Son of God. He has since gone on to sell books and tour his bonkers theories of conspiracy, ufology, mysticism, racism and lunacy.

[Horace Wheeljack]

Doesn't "notorious" mean widely and unfavorably known? This is the first I've heard about it and I'm pretty sure that if I asked the "person on the street" they probably wouldn't know anything about it as well. Is that appeal to popularity or something else since it isn't true?

Good point. As well as being immoral the accussation doesnt even make sense!

[Gravy]

These Sons of God are always accusing people of pedophilia. Why don't they do some smiting for once?

[maccy]

Don't forget "a bloodline of extra-terrestrial shape-shifting Jewish lizards running the world". That was the "bloodline" he alluded to in the interview...

He's a former sports reporter who announced in 1991, on a chatshow, that he was the Son of God. He has since gone on to sell books and tour his bonkers theories of conspiracy, ufology, mysticism, racism and lunacy.

Here is his chatshow appearance revisited:

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and here is a programme that Jon Ronson made about him*:

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Edit: I like to think of him as the Alan Partridge of Conspiracy Theorists.

*from the series Secret Rulers of the World which was first shown in April 2001 and so predates 9/11 - making it a document of a bygone era of conspiracy nuttiness.

[ktesibios]

These Sons of God are always accusing people of pedophilia. Why don't they do some smiting for once?

Ah, but this was an accusation of paedophilia.

The British spelling makes all the difference, you see. :p

[CptColumbo]

Ah, but this was an accusation of paedophilia.

The British spelling makes all the difference, you see. :pWhy don't you go down a lift shaft without a torch.
:)

[BenBurch]

Why don't you go down a lift shaft without a torch.
:)

Stay in the Zebra Crossing! Mind that Lorry!

[Caper]

Can someone answer me this. Why on earth does he throw Box Car Willie in there?

[CptColumbo]

Can someone answer me this. Why on earth does he throw Box Car Willie in there?Not including him would wreck his credibility.

[Kiosk]

Perhaps we're supposed to think "come on now, if you were making this stuff up, would you include Boxcar Willie??"

[CptColumbo]

Perhaps we're supposed to think "come on now, if you were making this stuff up, would you include Boxcar Willie??"That's what I was thinking.

[Mince]

Anything for popularity, publicity and recognition.

[Childlike Empress]

Here is his chatshow appearance revisited:

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and here is a programme that Jon Ronson made about him*:

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To complete the fan gear: "David Icke - Was he right?" (UK Channel 5, Dec 2006) :eek:

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[Architect]

Ah, but this was an accusation of paedophilia.

The British spelling makes all the difference, you see. :p

As others have pointed out here, notably the antipodeans and Canadians, it's just you Yanks who can't spell. Don't even start me on the crappy way you ended up with "Aluminum" and all that. :p

Incidentally, Icke not only claimed that he was the son of God but also that:

1. Mauve was the colour of love, and we should all wear it.

2. The island of Arran would sink beneath the waves imminently. Well, I can see it from the house on a good day and last I saw (being Scotland, that would be about a month ago) the summit of Goatfell continue to soar majestically. With snow.

It doesn't encourage any faith in the rest of his revelations, I can tell you.

:eek:

[LashL]

These Sons of God are always accusing people of pedophilia. Why don't they do some smiting for once?


Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! Don't smite me, bro!

[Mangoose]

Still cracks me up that Lloyd England had a David Icke reptoid-themed book in his cab on 9/11.

[AgeGap]

I started a similar thread in humour because I thought that is where it belonged. BTW I was under the impression that George Bush senior was the one who was accused of being a reptoid pedo. David Icke on the same show a week later continued the same themes. He is a master of making a few lucid statements giving them a bit of a twist and than coming up with something bonkers.

[volatile]

I started a similar thread in humour because I thought that is where it belonged. BTW I was under the impression that George Bush senior was the one who was accused of being a reptoid pedo. David Icke on the same show a week later continued the same themes. He is a master of making a few lucid statements giving them a bit of a twist and than coming up with something bonkers.

Indeed. Watching that C5 documentary "Was David Icke Right?" actually makes it seem like he has something to say, particularly on the way the media shapes our understanding of the world. You need to see the video he sends to his supporters, which at least used to be online somewhere, to see the full extent of his insanity.

He literally jumps from "This a statue of a dragon in London" to "thus London is run by lizard people who drink the blood of babies", with a straight face, in under a paragraph.

[Nogbad]

In an encounter with a extreme exponent of CTery on another board we were subjected to endless youtube links on lengthy talks regarding the NWO. Child abuse is apparently a key element in their strategy and we have all been subjected to it but just don't know it :boggled:

I saw something similar on South Park with the Super Adventure Club. It is all to do Morlocks and living for ever (or until you die at least).

I thought David had supposedly got better and was now semi-ironic in his statements but clearly better is a relative concept.

[timhau]

Why hasn't he been silenced yet? The NWO has had almost 10 years to do it after Icke spilled the beans on our shape-shifting, blood-drinking reptilian overlords.

[uk_dave]

Why hasn't he been silenced yet? The NWO has had almost 10 years to do it after Icke spilled the beans on our shape-shifting, blood-drinking reptilian overlords.

Because the truth is so much worse! Muhahahahahahaha

[Horace Wheeljack]

I started a similar thread in humour because I thought that is where it belonged. BTW I was under the impression that George Bush senior was the one who was accused of being a reptoid pedo. David Icke on the same show a week later continued the same themes. He is a master of making a few lucid statements giving them a bit of a twist and than coming up with something bonkers.

Yeah youre right it is Bush Senior he is accussing. I actually strapped myself in and went to the David Icke site to see what he was basing this on. I found that they have a Satanism/Child Abuse forum category! These people take nuts to a whole new level.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=20

The Bush accussations are based on the 'Franklin coverup scandal' which also allege that Bush junior is 'following in his fathers footsteps'.
http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

It really is hard to believe that Icke still has the ability to shock after claiming himself the messiah, shape-shifting lizards, 911 being an inside job etc.

[iAmerican]

David Icke keeps making these horrible accussations, i understand its extremely unlikely that Bush would take legal action but could Icke get into trouble for this stuff? I've also heard him accusse the Queen of sacrificing children.

For anyone who isnt familiar with David Icke, he was a former goalkeeper turned sports presenter, declared himself son of God on a chat show, now he writes books and gives talks on conspiracies involving reptilian shape-shifting overlords.

Here's the link from last saturday's Russel Brand show on the BBC where Icke makes the claim that "Bush is a notorious paedophile".

http://www.multi-illusion.com/mp3s/david_icke_on_russell_brand_-_05.01 .2008.mp3 (http://www.multi-illusion.com/mp3s/david_icke_on_russell_brand_-_05.01.2008.mp3)

While there apparently is a corrupt faction from the State of Israel complicit in the nefarious activities of 9-11, with enemies, domestic, of Our Constitution, American Foundational Whig values, obedient to the Mottoes, rejects Icke's anti-Semitism: in that tack he must have cultural biases in favor of the Roman Anti-Christ, as does Lyndon Larouche.

That said, Icke's radio-show charge, concerning Bush1, particularly as his "son," on numerous occasions, has received as a personal guest, per the Secret Service logbook of the White House's "social entrance," James Guckert, an established $200 an hour homosexual prostitute, suggests those with a mind to know or eyes to see should watch "Conspiracy of Silence (http://www.franklincase.org/silence.htm)."

[twinstead]

Why hasn't he been silenced yet? The NWO has had almost 10 years to do it after Icke spilled the beans on our shape-shifting, blood-drinking reptilian overlords.

I for one welcome our shape-shifting, blood-drinking reptilian overlords.

[twinstead]

That said, Icke's radio-show charge, concerning Bush1, particularly as his "son," on numerous occasions, has received as a personal guest, per the Secret Service logbook of the White House's "social entrance," James Guckert, an established $200 an hour homosexual prostitute, suggests those with a mind to know or eyes to see should watch "Conspiracy of Silence (http://www.franklincase.org/silence.htm)."

You appear to LOVE watching these videos. You also LOVE to believe everything they say without question.

Just exactly who is the sheep here?

[Nogbad]

I for one welcome our shape-shifting, blood-drinking reptilian overlords.

Beware Geeks bearing Geckos ......

or something like that.

[maccy]

Yeah youre right it is Bush Senior he is accussing. I actually strapped myself in and went to the David Icke site to see what he was basing this on. I found that they have a Satanism/Child Abuse forum category! These people take nuts to a whole new level.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=20

The Bush accussations are based on the 'Franklin coverup scandal' which also allege that Bush junior is 'following in his fathers footsteps'.
http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

It really is hard to believe that Icke still has the ability to shock after claiming himself the messiah, shape-shifting lizards, 911 being an inside job etc.

Yes the Franklin stuff is widespread in CT circles, in this respect at least Icke isn't going much beyond the likes of Alex Jones (who has interviewed John DeCamp and at least implied that ritual child abuse goes on at Bohemian Grove).

As far as libel or slander goes, I suspect that most of the people accused would rather not give the accusers any more publicity, and are unlikely to recover their costs. Also, it's my understanding that in the US you have to show that you were damaged by the accusation. I doubt that David Icke has enough of a reputation to argue that his opinion is damaging - it's not as if these are accusations that anybody is going to take seriously. Beyond that, I would imagine it's quite hard for someone in the US to sue a UK citizen for something they said on a UK radio show.

Looking at Icke's website, it looks as if he isn't doing anywhere near as many speaking engagements as he used to (there are only 2 listed). I suspect 9/11 may have been bad for him - his audience seems to be fluffy headed new-agers who like vague stories of lizards and secret societies. Talking guff about a specific event could well be a turn off for some of them.

By the way, there's a Franklin/Conspiracy of Silence thread here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=64252) which pretty much covers all of it.

[Rolfe]

Doesn't "notorious" mean widely and unfavorably known? This is the first I've heard about it and I'm pretty sure that if I asked the "person on the street" they probably wouldn't know anything about it as well. Is that appeal to popularity or something else since it isn't true?


It depends where you are, and to some extent how old. David Icke was absolutely notorious in the UK in (I think) the 1980s. He was some sort of a sportsman, then "retired" to become a TV sports presenter, then joined the Green Party. He became prominent in the party, and according to my recollection he was a parliamentary candidate (Wiki doesn't mention that, so perhaps he was just the party's media spokesman during the election in question).

It was during the parliamentary campaign that he suddenly threw his cogs and started on about God being a super-intelligent shade of the colour blue, and Arran shortly going to sink beneath the waves and so on. Closely followed by the shape-shifting reptilian overlord stuff. All this while being a prominent politician of a minority party.

However, his insanity was so self-evident that most people just tuned him out, and soon he just wasn't on the radar of most ordinary people. So if you held a vox pop nowadays, you might find that even in the UK the young people weren't aware of him, and many of the older ones had forgotten most of it.

Can anyone remember if he really did stand for parliament as a Green candidate?

Rolfe.

[maccy]

Can anyone remember if he really did stand for parliament as a Green candidate?

I don't think so. He was definitely a speaker for the party. I imagine he may well have stood had he got to 1992 without going completely bonkers. He was easily the most famous person in the party at the time, though. I'm not sure how they run things now (I've lost interest in them) but the Green Party at the time was very non-hierarchical, they didn't have a leader or (if I remember correctly) anything like a shadow cabinet. I get the feeling that they were happy to let Icke speak for them because he had good media access and was comparatively famous, but I don't think he was given any specific position in the party. The Green Party was at it's most popular and media-visible point after getting 15% of the vote in the 1989 European Elections - mainly because the SDP/Liberal alliance had collapsed.

A friend of mine who was very much involved with the Green Party at the time clocked that he was going nuts when he gave a speech saying that the Earth's crust was going to collapse because of the all the oil that was being drilled out of it.

[Nogbad]

I do recall when he was going through his turquoise phase that he always seemed to be accompanied by a couple of turquoise clad lovelies - not completely mad I thought at the time.....

they were prolly blood sucking lizards in disguise though :eek:

[sophia8]

No, Icke never stood for Parliament. He was the Greens' party spokesperson because of his media experience - he'd been a sports commentator after arthritis in his knees forced his retirement from being a goalie for a minor football team (Hereford City, I think).
It was searching around for treatment for his arthritis that got him into woo - he went first to complementary therapists, and then to all kinds of healers.
To nitpick - it was turquiose, not mauve, that he said was the colour of love; and he actually said "I am a Son of God".
I once had an interesting gossip with a woman who had been his personal astrologer for a while - she said that he wasn't "trouser-safe" around women, and that he believed any woman he was attracted to had some karmic connection with him that had to be, ahem, 'explored'. She eventually got fed up with his continual attempts at 'karmic exploration' with her and left.

[uk_dave]

I once had an interesting gossip with a woman who had been his personal astrologer for a while - she said that he wasn't "trouser-safe" around women, and that he believed any woman he was attracted to had some karmic connection with him that had to be, ahem, 'explored'. She eventually got fed up with his continual attempts at 'karmic exploration' with her and left.

She should have seen that coming.

:D

[ElMondoHummus]

Why don't you go down a lift shaft without a torch.
:)

Stay in the Zebra Crossing! Mind that Lorry!


Frikkin' A! Why don't you all speak english! Instead of whatever it is they speak over there in... uhh... that country...

:eye-poppi :D

[CptColumbo]

It depends where you are, and to some extent how old. David Icke was absolutely notorious in the UK in (I think) the 1980s. He was some sort of a sportsman, then "retired" to become a TV sports presenter, then joined the Green Party. He became prominent in the party, and according to my recollection he was a parliamentary candidate (Wiki doesn't mention that, so perhaps he was just the party's media spokesman during the election in question).

It was during the parliamentary campaign that he suddenly threw his cogs and started on about God being a super-intelligent shade of the colour blue, and Arran shortly going to sink beneath the waves and so on. Closely followed by the shape-shifting reptilian overlord stuff. All this while being a prominent politician of a minority party.

However, his insanity was so self-evident that most people just tuned him out, and soon he just wasn't on the radar of most ordinary people. So if you held a vox pop nowadays, you might find that even in the UK the young people weren't aware of him, and many of the older ones had forgotten most of it.

Can anyone remember if he really did stand for parliament as a Green candidate?

Rolfe.I was refering to Icke's claim that "Bush is a notorious paedophile."

I'm fairly certain that Icke himself is notorious in the UK, but his reference to Bush being a "notorious paedophile" is dubious at best. Not just that he is a paedophile, but he's also a notorious one.

[BenBurch]

It's true, you know.

I *am* a lizard man overlord of Earth.

I eat babies prepared as Sashimi and I can lick my forehead.

Pardon me, while I go molt.

[Liszt]

everyone knows that Jim Morrison is the Lizard King

[dudalb]

Nah,Dr. Curt Connors is the Lizard:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_188404760265a2c9c8.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=9688)

[Rolfe]

I was refering to Icke's claim that "Bush is a notorious paedophile."

I'm fairly certain that Icke himself is notorious in the UK, but his reference to Bush being a "notorious paedophile" is dubious at best. Not just that he is a paedophile, but he's also a notorious one.


Ah. I misunderstood.

No, not notorious paedophile then. Notorious quite a lot of other things, but not, I think, that.

Rolfe.

OK, we did establish that he visits a lot of primary schools, but I still maintain it's just that he's most comfortable among his intellectual peers.

[AgeGap]

No Rolfe it is Bush Senior who is the notorious paedophile (ETA as claimed by Icke. That view is in no way shared by AgeGap who could do without being sued by the Bushes, stewed by the lizardmen or disappeared by the CIA, NWO and or teh j00s).
In a way I like Icke (hmm, sounds familiar) but I also like David Brent and Larry David in Curb your enthusiasm. He says nutty things, but every village has one. What I do not like are the people who read meaning into his demented ramblings. A nut will say stupid stuff. It takes a special kind of nut to follow him.

[Rolfe]

Ah, OK. I'm clearly not even on the right page here.

Rolfe.