[Ed]Japanese PM Gets 20 Min Grilling Destroying 9/11 Fairytale

[RedIbis]

http://911blogger.com/node/13340

This is a fascinating clip that recently occured in the Japanese Diet (parliment). A legislator makes a 20 minute presentation to the Japanese Prime Minister, Fukuda which includes:

a) the Pentagon entry and exit hole
b) the flight path towards the Pentagon
c) the exploding WTC towers
d) the WTC 7 collapse.

Please check the link for all clips, translation and commentary (http://http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1644).

In case anyone was wondering if 9/11 alternative analysis was getting any serious play outside of the US.

ETA: I see you can't edit thread titles. It should read 20 min grilling.

[CptColumbo]

What a surprise! You mean there are idiots who live outside the US?

[ktesibios]

So, a re-re-re-re-re-re-rehash of all the old familiar specious claims?

I have to grant the paranoid conspiracy theory industry one thing- they sure do work at recycling.

[CptColumbo]

If you ever watch C-span, there are some strange things entered into the US Congressional Record everyday. All congresspeople get a chance to say something into the record, some will waste it and mention the contributions of "Hulk" Hogan or praise their alumni's teams. It's good to see that wasting government time is not a solely US habit.

[RedIbis]

If you ever watch C-span, there are some strange things entered into the US Congressional Record everyday. All congresspeople get a chance to say something into the record, some will waste it and mention the contributions of "Hulk" Hogan or praise their alumni's teams. It's good to see that wasting government time is not a solely US habit.

And how many of those incidents occur in front of the president, uninterrupted for 20 mins, specifically demanding that criminal investigations begin?

[R.Mackey]

I'm confused. You're saying that, because the samurai-at-arms of the Japanese Diet didn't automatically haul this guy away, then his claims have merit? Despite the fact that it's the same, utterly debunked tripe we've all heard for years?

Argumentum ad filibusterium?

[WildCat]

And how many of those incidents occur in front of the president, uninterrupted for 20 mins, specifically demanding that criminal investigations begin?
You are claiming that because the audience of someone making idiotic 9/11 conspiracy claims are high-ranking government officials that means that the claims have merit?

I guess when you have no facts or evidence you have to grasp at any straw that's available.

[OldTigerCub]

What a surprise! You mean there are idiots who live outside the US?

...and apparently sanity and logic are not a prerequisite for being a legislator in Japan either. They have their share of lunatics too, and some of them managed to get elected, or appointed, to public office.

[CptColumbo]

And how many of those incidents occur in front of the president, uninterrupted for 20 mins, specifically demanding that criminal investigations begin?The two governments are set up differently, for example there is no "questions" sessions in the US. IIRC The Speaker of the House is present for many of them.

Most people when they "demand" an investigation bring evidence with them. So in the end it was meaningless and was a waste of the PM's time.

[Par]

This is a fascinating clip that recently occured in the Japanese Diet (parliment). A legislator makes a 20 minute presentation to the Japanese Prime Minister, Fukuda...


I suppose this fellow is the Japanese equivalent of Michael Meacher.

(Incidentally, if you think that the prosaic account of 9/11 is a “fairytale”, then perhaps you should present some evidence for the same.)

[CptColumbo]

"Destroying 9/11 Fairytale?" Are we to assume then that the Japanese Government has started criminal proceedings against the accused members of the US Government, since there were almost 30 Japanese Citizens killed. If not, the speaker must not have been very convincing and therefore didn't do any "Destroying."

Exaggerate much?

[DGM]

I'm confused. You're saying that, because the samurai-at-arms of the Japanese Diet didn't automatically haul this guy away, then his claims have merit? Despite the fact that it's the same, utterly debunked tripe we've all heard for years?

Argumentum ad filibusterium?
Hey, It's much more "truthie" in Japanese.:D

[Myriad]

If I'm not mistaken, a "grilling" (besides cooking over high radiant heat) means being subjected to intense aggressive questioning.

The correct term for being subjected to a silly 20-minute-long presentation full of false claims would be "badgering," "haranguing," or very likely in this case, "nap."

Respectfully,
Myriad

[Coffee]

Nothing new in that clip. Same old claims. Still no evidence. Same old failure by the 9/11 conspiracy clowns.

[R.Mackey]

As a gaijin like myself might say,

Torufu Mofumen'to wa kichigai desu nee... :p

[Gazpacho]

And how many of those incidents occur in front of the president, uninterrupted for 20 mins, specifically demanding that criminal investigations begin?
Search the congressional record for "special prosecutor". Also this (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3699-2004Jun24.html) from a few years back.

US Presidents do not preside over the business of Congress.

[littlehulkster]

And how many of those incidents occur in front of the president, uninterrupted for 20 mins, specifically demanding that criminal investigations begin?

Yes. It happens every time Ron Paul opens his mouth.

[HereticHulk]

What a surprise! You mean there are idiots who live outside the US?

Yes, I'd imagine there are 9/11 Truth deniers everywhere.

Sad but true I'm afraid. :boggled:

[Pardalis]

Their women are still hot.

[Brainache]

Oh I get it... This Japanese bloke made a fool of himself in front of the PM and Parliament by repeating all the old stupid Truth Movement Fantasy nonsense, thereby destroying his credibility and most likely any chance he had for a continued carreer in mainstream politics. Wow, way to go Mr Japanese Polly Parrot Person! Now everyone in Japan knows how useless your brain is, good luck at the next election!

(I nearly made a bad joke there by doing a fake Japanese accent, sorry.)

[beachnut]

http://911blogger.com/node/13340

This is a fascinating clip that recently occured in the Japanese Diet (parliment). A legislator makes a 20 minute presentation to the Japanese Prime Minister, Fukuda which includes:

a) the Pentagon entry and exit hole
b) the flight path towards the Pentagon
c) the exploding WTC towers
d) the WTC 7 collapse.

Please check the link for all clips, translation and commentary (http://http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1644).

In case anyone was wondering if 9/11 alternative analysis was getting any serious play outside of the US.

ETA: I see you can't edit thread titles. It should read 20 min grilling.
Wow, there are idiots are all over the world. Dumb people fall for the ideas of idiots who make up the stupid ideas for other dolts. Lucky you have no fallen for this tripe.

[gumboot]

If I'm not mistaken, a "grilling" (besides cooking over high radiant heat) means being subjected to intense aggressive questioning.

The correct term for being subjected to a silly 20-minute-long presentation full of false claims would be "badgering," "haranguing," or very likely in this case, "nap."

Respectfully,
Myriad

:dl:

-Gumboot

[CptColumbo]

Yes, I'd imagine there are 9/11 Truth deniers everywhere.

Sad but true I'm afraid. :boggled:Are the "Truth deniers" the ones who parrot (as the Japanese Person in the video does) what they are told on the internet without researching on their own, and plug their ears and close their eyes anytime the way reality works is pointed out to them or are they the ones who depend on evidence (which they have) and science (which is provable) to make their point?

[Architect]

HereticHulk

You have vocal supporters that claim that steel is inherrently fire resistant when it is patently no such thing. You have others who claim that structural design loads have sufficient capacity to arrest thousands of tonnes of dynamic loads outwith the original anticpiated paths. You have others who claim no planes.

Really, mate, stop slinging the soundbites around and come up with a halfway decent evidence based case.

[AMTMAN]

http://911blogger.com/node/13340

This is a fascinating clip that recently occured in the Japanese Diet (parliment). A legislator makes a 20 minute presentation to the Japanese Prime Minister, Fukuda which includes:

a) the Pentagon entry and exit hole
b) the flight path towards the Pentagon
c) the exploding WTC towers
d) the WTC 7 collapse.

Please check the link for all clips, translation and commentary (http://http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1644).

In case anyone was wondering if 9/11 alternative analysis was getting any serious play outside of the US.

ETA: I see you can't edit thread titles. It should read 20 min grilling.

And all the points he brought up have been discussed to death. Does he have any actual facts to support his claims or is this another case of "just asking question"? I'm guessing like most truthers he's not interested in answers. Only answers that are confirming the conspiracy theories he believes.

"With the panel, he explained the conspiracy theory and made the pants of prime minister sweaty because he was the Chief Cabinet Secretary under Koizumi cabinet in 2001."

And the author knows this how?

"He pointed out the fact that the 7th tower collapsed even though air plane did not hit it"

Left out the part where WTC 7 was damaged by debris from the collapsing towers. He also does not bother to explain why would anyone even bother with WTC 7 since the attacks on WTC 1 and 2 were acts of war themselves.

[OldTigerCub]

And all the points he brought up have been discussed to death. Does he have any actual facts to support his claims or is this another case of "just asking question"? I'm guessing like most truthers he's not interested in answers. Only answers that are confirming the conspiracy theories he believes.

"With the panel, he explained the conspiracy theory and made the pants of prime minister sweaty because he was the Chief Cabinet Secretary under Koizumi cabinet in 2001."

And the author knows this how?

"He pointed out the fact that the 7th tower collapsed even though air plane did not hit it"

Left out the part where WTC 7 was damaged by debris from the collapsing towers. He also does not bother to explain why would anyone even bother with WTC 7 since the attacks on WTC 1 and 2 were acts of war themselves.

That last sentence made me wonder if at anytime during that 20 minutes, any of the conspiracy theories revolving around the Pearl Harbor attack were brought up.
What? The Japanese don't like to mention that?
I didn't think so....:p

[AMTMAN]

That last sentence made me wonder if at anytime during that 20 minutes, any of the conspiracy theories revolving around the Pearl Harbor attack were brought up.
What? The Japanese don't like to mention that?
I didn't think so....:p

My guess is no. However the Japanese back then would have been insulted that some Americans thought FDR had advance knowledge of the attack. This was partly based on bigotry, how could little yellow men outfox the US?

[CHF]

http://911blogger.com/node/13340

This is a fascinating clip that recently occured in the Japanese Diet (parliment). A legislator makes a 20 minute presentation to the Japanese Prime Minister, Fukuda which includes:

a) the Pentagon entry and exit hole
b) the flight path towards the Pentagon
c) the exploding WTC towers
d) the WTC 7 collapse.

Please check the link for all clips, translation and commentary (http://%5Burl%5Dhttp://www.truthnews.us/?p=1644%5B/url%5D).

In case anyone was wondering if 9/11 alternative analysis was getting any serious play outside of the US.

ETA: I see you can't edit thread titles. It should read 20 min grilling.

And let's say the Japanese PM does nothing with this amazing evidence that was presented to him. He doesn't call for a new investigation, doesn't raise the issue with Bush...nothing.

What would that mean in your mind?

[Hokulele]

Back to the OP, I am sure the rant in the Diet had absolutely nothing to do with this. :rolleyes:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/01/11/japan.naval.mission.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/01/11/japan.naval.mission.ap/index.html)