Calling All Skeptics w/ a Clue: CIA, in Dealey Plaza, w/ a Fascist Plutocracy

[iAmerican]

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) -
skep·tic /ˈskɛptɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[skep-tik]
–noun
1. a person who questions the validity or authenticity of something purporting to be factual.

Specifically: skeptical of the "conventional wisdom" that Oswald killed JFK.

Webster's New Millennium™ Dictionary of English -
Main Entry: critical thinking
Part of Speech: n
Definition: the mental process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and evaluating information to reach an answer or conclusion
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Raised, by a WWII-hero father and a mother who was a living saint and a genuine healer, in a sheltered environment shattered by the death of President Kennedy, I believe this 90 minute video, The Murder of JFK: Bush Family Connections (http://brasschecktv.com/page/71.html) is a true and accurate analysis of the Kennedy Assassination, fully explaining the present closet-queen, draft-dodging Oval Office occupant's shredding the Constitution, his PNAC-9-11 and false war killing thousands of innocents, driving up the price of oil and debasing our currency.

It appears to be flawless in its analysis, having arrived at the same conclusions deduced by others' independent analysis of the same facts. The same answers found by separate paths (unless my internet contributions have been copied over the last 17 years) suggests the truth of the matter is established.

Genuine Skeptics and Critical Thinkers concerned about, or interested in, American Life, Politics, History, Righteousness, Posterity, and Truth, please take the time to watch this substantial work.

Thoughtful, fresh, intelligent comments would be appreciated.

Through criticism is perfection approached, and through argument is truth achieved.

"Infowars.com" is on the bottom of the video. I have no opinion on Alex Jones, wonder that his video on the murder of JFK Jr. fails to include the report of the entire missing tail section of the crashed plane, and hope that only the particulars of the above linked video can be discussed, accepted or rejected.

N.B. Herd members, Establishment apologists, false-elite wannabes, and cavilers, whether simple, complex, public, or private, please move along: put "iAmerican" on Ignore. TIA

[T.A.M.]

will do sir, welcome to ignore.

TAM:)

[milesalpha]

will do sir, welcome to ignore.

TAM:)

I can't put him on ignore, I just love watching a train wreck like this. For me, an OP like that is rather like the overture for an absurd musical. All he needs now is the clown suit.

[Reality Believer]

I'm an antidisestablishmentarian. Can you find a pigeon hole for me (preferably without pigeons)? :)

[Jonnyclueless]

"the Kennedy Assassination, fully explaining the present closet-queen, draft-dodging Oval Office occupant's shredding the Constitution, his PNAC-9-11 and false war killing thousands of innocents, driving up the price of oil and debasing our currency."

Oh! It's a conspiracy burrito!!!

[cisco]

iAmerican:

If you find these beliefs lasting longer than what can later be chalked up to youthful vigor and ignorance and laughed at, please seek professional mental health care. You really come across as having significant psychological problems.

[OldTigerCub]

Wow....it's been a while since I have seen that many dots connected without resulting in any clear picture....:boggled:

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Thoughtful, fresh, intelligent comments would be appreciated.


Yes, they would. I'm disappointed that there were none in your OP.

* Cl1mh4224rd sighs.
Oh well...

[beachnut]

Prison Planet is making this up for real dumb people. You have done well warning others of the this pure stupidity; without people like you no one would be able to find this much stupid stuff in one place this quickly. How can you find this stupid stuff so quickly and efficiently?
skep·tic /ˈskɛptɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[skep-tik] –noun
1. a person who questions the validity or authenticity of something purporting to be factual.

Definition: the mental process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and evaluating information to reach an answer or conclusion
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It appears to be flawless in its analysis, having arrived at the same conclusions deduced by others' independent analysis of the same facts. The same answers found by separate paths (unless my internet contributions have been copied over the last 17 years) suggests the truth of the matter is established.

Genuine Skeptics and Critical Thinkers concerned about, or interested in, American Life, Politics, History, Righteousness, Posterity, and Truth, please take the time to watch this substantial work.

N.B. Herd members, Establishment apologists, false-elite wannabes, and cavilers, whether simple, complex, public, or private, please move along: put "iAmerican" on Ignore. TIA

You are not a skeptic you are credulous. C r e d u l o u s = G U L L I B L E = anyone who believes prison planet. BTW, only people with zero research abilities are prone to believe PP.

Critical thinking is what you failed to use when fooled by the dim-witted prison planet tripe.

Flawed is what you meant to say.

The stuff you presented is really stupid.

Have you put yourself on ignore?

[Married2aWooster]

...{snip}....
N.B. Herd members, Establishment apologists, false-elite wannabes, and cavilers, whether simple, complex, public, or private, please move along: put "iAmerican" on Ignore. TIA
It took a while but I managed to find a rational thought in all of that. Good advice for most, but I consider myself the equivalent of a trainspotter when it comes to monomaniacs. Please continue.:bigclap

[GT/CS]

I seriously doubt iAmerican believes a word of what he/she posted. It's obviously trying much too hard to egg us on.

[Reality Believer]

This should have been started in AAH. Vishnu knows that is where it will end up.

[JamesB]

I have no opinion on Alex Jones, wonder that his video on the murder of JFK Jr. fails to include the report of the entire missing tail section of the crashed plane, and hope that only the particulars of the above linked video can be discussed, accepted or rejected.



Well I do have an opinion on Alex Jones.

He is a moron.

[Blender Head]

What about the 'Secret Service stand-down on JFK's motorcade'? :boxedin:

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Lee Harvey Oswald was a hologram!

[MIKILLINI]

Seems to be another Iam post and run: Put in the Prison Planet Alex Jones conspiracy BS, then leave.

Genuine Skeptics and Critical Thinkers concerned about, or interested in, American Life, Politics, History, Righteousness, Posterity, and Truth, please take the time to watch this substantial work.

Iam, you ought to learn about what a genuine skeptical, critical thinker is. Your OP indicates you don't know what that means.

[OldTigerCub]

Well I do have an opinion on Alex Jones.

He is a moron.

I concur.
Alex Jones is a moron.
PrisonPlanet is an Alex Jones site.
Therefore, anything on PrisonPlanet is endorsed by a moron.
There might be a fact or two posted on a daily basis, but separating the facts from the propaganda can make any sane person want to pull their hair out...though it's too late for me as there is little hair left....so I just resort to going over here and doing this when trying to figure out AJ and his foolishness..... :hb:

[Gazpacho]

Why are you complaining about the Kennedy assassination? He was an agent of Rome, after all.

[ElMondoHummus]

I have no opinion on Alex Jones...


You haven't researched him or any of his work then.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

You haven't researched him or any of his work then.


I don't think I've heard of a truther yet who isn't intimately familiar with the crazy ramblings of Alex Jones, so I have to assume "I have no opinion on Alex Jones" is just a shorter way of saying, "He does say some really crazy and stupid things, but he also says some things that agree with my own twisted world view."

[Jonnyclueless]

What about the 'Secret Service stand-down on JFK's motorcade'? :boxedin:

They were north of the Citgo sign.

[leftysergeant]

Wow....it's been a while since I have seen that many dots connected without resulting in any clear picture....:boggled:

The Quicky Mart was out of dot-to-dot books, but his daddy had been out testing the pattern on his shotgun....

[Par]

...the present closet-queen...


There’s nothing like throwing a bit of homophobia into the mix, is there?

[Par]

Herd members, Establishment apologists, false-elite wannabes, and cavilers, whether simple, complex, public, or private, please move along: put "iAmerican" on Ignore. TIA


Ah. I notice that you’ve deployed the old “Anyone who doesn’t immediately agree with my conspiracy theory is either stupid or evil” gambit. That’s cunning stuff.

[chillzero]

Please folks - remember Rule 12. Attack the argument, and not the arguer.

[iAmerican]

I'm an antidisestablishmentarian. Can you find a pigeon hole for me (preferably without pigeons)? :)



an·ti·dis·es·tab·lish·men·tar·i·an·ism /ˌæntiˌdɪsəˌstæblɪʃmənˈtɛəriəˌnɪzəm, ˌæntaɪ-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[an-tee-dis-uh-stab-lish-muhn-tair-ee-uh-niz-uhm, an-tahy-]
–noun
opposition to the withdrawal of state support or recognition from an established church, esp. the Anglican Church in 19th-century England.

The "established church" in America is the patent falsehood that Oswald killed President Kennedy. Thanks for your candor, and T.A.M.'s..

The video is 90 minutes. Those without interest or time won't make the investment. If you wish to add something to this thread, please take the time and effort to watch the video so we can discuss it and the proofs it supplies.

Truth is the best defense against charges of Slander. All those named accused (and accursed) show no willingness to pursue legal recourse. I'm sure the providers of the video are not "judgment proof."

The video, I believe, is the well-thought out, and accurate presentation of the criminal conspiracy that murdered John Kennedy to restore the Fed to our money supply, keep us dying in Vietnam for papal interests, and ultimately effect the treason, vote fraud, and defilement of the Constitution so obvious today.

If economy of time renders you incapable of watching, and making intelligent comment on, the noted video, please do just put "iAmerican" on ignore. There seems to be a number of serious contributors in these fine fora and less chaff would be appreciated.

[iAmerican]

"the Kennedy Assassination, fully explaining the present closet-queen, draft-dodging Oval Office occupant's shredding the Constitution, his PNAC-9-11 and false war killing thousands of innocents, driving up the price of oil and debasing our currency."

Oh! It's a conspiracy burrito!!!

Might you watch the video and grant us more development of your culinary mastery? It is an hour and a half, but of great import deserving more refined and involved observation. Examine and criticize the video, please, or, if fine dining is not to your taste, take your patronage elsewhere, with my blessings.

[iAmerican]

Wow....it's been a while since I have seen that many dots connected without resulting in any clear picture....:boggled:

Please share with us your perception...AFTER you've bothered to watch the video offered for study, analysis, criticism and growth...to benefit us all.

[iAmerican]

I seriously doubt iAmerican believes a word of what he/she posted. It's obviously trying much too hard to egg us on.

Last chance...focus...forgive the flatfootedness...NOT.

I believe the offered free video is the revealed Truth so important to the survival of The People's sovereignty, Righteousness and Justice in America.

If you'ld rather not involve yourself in any discussion of a matter of such moment, please put iAmerican on Ignore. You think the assassination of John Kennedy and the concommitant deaths of 58,000 Americans in Vietnam for the Roman Anti-Christ is funny?

Blessing, or curse, to you accordingly.

[defaultdotxbe]

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) -
skep·tic /ˈskɛptɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[skep-tik]
–noun
1. a person who questions the validity or authenticity of something purporting to be factual.

can i question the authenticity of validity of people who claim to know the "real facts" about an historic event?

[iAmerican]

What about the 'Secret Service stand-down on JFK's motorcade'? :boxedin:

I was struck by the level of abstraction embraced by the cited video.

It did note the S.S. stand-down as the motorcade began, but more importantly it goes into great and documented detail about Zapata Oil and Bush1's connections to the early CIA through Skull & Bones (from which he has later attempted to distance himself) and tying it all through to Rockefeller. This is valuable, conclusive, and, were it not the truth, actionable libel.

E. Howard Hunt vainly attempted to deflect the finger of truth in the matter. Knowledge is power and The People must restore The Founders' Vision.

President Kennedy followed Jefferson. Whig Truth must bring to justice the fascist plutocracy now behind the Republicans and Hillary.

With the information broadcast from this video, We can return to the Righteous Path by rendering justice to this satanic faction of traitors who are drenched in the blood of King, Kennedy, and our Dead of Vietnam.

Furthermore it can be seen through the network exposed by the video that the faction charged is also guilty of the finance of Hitler and the Holocaust.

My blood is American. Reason and virtue shall serve Our Nation. By purging this evil from Our Land we can help to usher in a new day with a restored Whig perspective for all right-minded, thinking humans: that Evil shall not pass in the United States of America.

Amends, by a duped America, must be made for the atrocities committed by Bush/Cheney and the Roman Fifth Column. The community of nations will be assured of our good faith, as a People, when, following due process, they witness the cadavers of Bush, Cheney, and their nearest thousand fully expropriated accomplices and backers hanging at Leavenworth and the Navy Yard.

[iAmerican]

Seems to be another Iam post and run: Put in the Prison Planet Alex Jones conspiracy BS, then leave.



Iam, you ought to learn about what a genuine skeptical, critical thinker is. Your OP indicates you don't know what that means.

What did you think after you watched the linked video? Care to contribute an intelligent criticism?

If not, please ignore all future posts by "iAmerican."

[iAmerican]

I concur.
Alex Jones is a moron.
PrisonPlanet is an Alex Jones site.
Therefore, anything on PrisonPlanet is endorsed by a moron.
There might be a fact or two posted on a daily basis, but separating the facts from the propaganda can make any sane person want to pull their hair out...though it's too late for me as there is little hair left....so I just resort to going over here and doing this when trying to figure out AJ and his foolishness..... :hb:

What in the cited video brings you to your stated opinion? What did you find most objectionable? Where does the analysis fail, in your opinion. Speak to the question at hand, or simply Ignore. Thanks.

Final Warning.

[iAmerican]

Why are you complaining about the Kennedy assassination? He was an agent of Rome, after all.

The CIA killed Kennedy. The CIA was/(is?) Roman Catholic. Four of the first seven DCI were Knights of Malta, the same papal fraternity claimed by Prescott Bush and his business partner Fritz Thyssen, author of "I Paid Hitler."

How do you come to "believe" President Kennedy was "an agent of Rome?" Were you aware that he removed Rome's bankers in the Fed from control of America's money supply, with EO11,110, and ordered our military's withdrawal from Vietnam, where the Roman Catholic 5% slave "aristocracy" owned 95% of that little nation's wealth - as well as profited from the French Connection and the Golden Triangle...since moved to Afghanistan thanks to Bonesman Bush2 and 9-11?

[iAmerican]

You haven't researched him or any of his work then.
Watch the video. Every tub sits on its own bottom.

[iAmerican]

The Quicky Mart was out of dot-to-dot books, but his daddy had been out testing the pattern on his shotgun....
Off target.

The Video please. Intelligent thoughts?

Or, what, just keeping your head down?

[iAmerican]

There’s nothing like throwing a bit of homophobia into the mix, is there?

Integrity is all that matters. The American People must establish Probity in our governance.

Bush's $200/hr habit with homosexual prostitute James Guckert/Jeff Gannon, in The People's Mansion would be moderately less vile and offensive had he been open about his obvious proclivity when he was cheated into the White House by only the Roman Catholics in the Supreme Court's manifestly unconstitutional, illegal Bush v. Gore (see Breyer dissent).

The problem is the hypocrisy and unrighteousness...not the deviance.

That his father killed John Kennedy to send us to die in Vietnam, and his grandfather financed the rise of Hitler and the Holocaust only suggests the origin of his personal dysfunction. The fruits of their evil, while, no doubt, placing him in a perverse environment, has much greater significance in the destruction of Our Constitution and moral authority as a Nation.

That he remains closeted is just one more indication of his unevolved state.

We must evolve beyond his condition by hanging him, not for his being homosexual and sick, but that he has committed the manifest treason of 9-11 and false war.

The Constitution requires it of the Sovereign People. All of us, regardless of peccadillo, stripe, benign deviance, or predilection.

[iAmerican]

Ah. I notice that you’ve deployed the old “Anyone who doesn’t immediately agree with my conspiracy theory is either stupid or evil” gambit. That’s cunning stuff.
Gracias.

[StoneWT]

Why is it necessary to watch the video? As a patriotic American warning us against the skulduggery of the Roman Beast along with other conspiracies, why not start a topic and defend those issues on your own? Why do you need to make reference to a video? Surely, the historical facts are just as true if typed by you.

"Watch the video, watch the video, watch the video..." + an Alex Jones reference (pretending to have no opinion) + begging for 'honest' critiques along with more demands to watch the video + excessively flowery language + bribing the forum with compliments (there are "serious contributors" here, he will bestow the title of 'serious contributor' on you if you watch the video and respond) + making 12 out of 13 consecutive posts = well, it tends to equal a moster that lives under a bridge.

Crazy people love talking to themselves. :drool:

[twinstead]

My daughter really could have used the "you WILL agree with me or you're all stupid or evil" technique in debate class in high school.

She only got a D; it cost her a couple summer school classes.

iAmerican, do you tutor?

[iAmerican]

Why is it necessary to watch the video? As a patriotic American warning us against the skulduggery of the Roman Beast along with other conspiracies, why not start a topic and defend those issues on your own? Why do you need to make reference to a video? Surely, the historical facts are just as true if typed by you.

"Watch the video, watch the video, watch the video..." + an Alex Jones reference (pretending to have no opinion) + begging for 'honest' critiques along with more demands to watch the video + excessively flowery language + bribing the forum with compliments (there are "serious contributors" here, he will bestow the title of 'serious contributor' on you if you watch the video and respond) + making 12 out of 13 consecutive posts = well, it tends to equal a moster that lives under a bridge.

Crazy people love talking to themselves. :drool:

Why reinvent "the wheel?" Can't be bothered to watch the video? Hit Ignore...and "own" your disdain for truth and justice.

[iAmerican]

My daughter really could have used the "you WILL agree with me or you're all stupid or evil" technique in debate class in high school.

She only got a D; it cost her a couple summer school classes.

iAmerican, do you tutor?

We need polemic, not rhetoric, now. America is in peril and treason must not be allowed to further prosper.

[Good Lt]

Welcome to ignore.

[GT/CS]

What in the cited video brings you to your stated opinion? What did you find most objectionable? Where does the analysis fail, in your opinion. Speak to the question at hand, or simply Ignore. Thanks.

Final Warning.

What do you mean by, "Final Warning"?

[iAmerican]

What do you mean by, "Final Warning"?

Critical thinking and productive argument do not require the discursive blather of punks, Nazis, and fascists, nor the digressive intrusion of wastrels and pimps.

As I am serious about retrieving Our Nation from impending Doom, those whose myopia, collusion, or mental laxity prevent their approach to analysis, reason, and righteous action are respectfully asked to simply Ignore me on this website. I shall return the favor.

[GT/CS]

Critical thinking and productive argument do not require the discursive blather of punks, Nazis, and fascists, nor the digressive intrusion of wastrels and pimps.

As I am serious about retrieving Our Nation from impending Doom, those whose myopia, collusion, or mental laxity prevent their approach to analysis, reason, and righteous action are respectfully asked to simply Ignore me on this website. I shall return the favor.

Wow, I certainly didn't know we had myopic, collusive, and mentally lax punks, nazis, fascists, wastrels, and pimps posting on this site.

It'd be fun to place names with faces so would you please list the posters who belong in each category?

Thanks!!


P.S. Reported

[Hans]

"As I am serious about retrieving Our Nation from impending Doom, those whose myopia, collusion, or mental laxity prevent their approach to analysis, reason, and righteous action are respectfully asked to simply Ignore me on this website."

You are going to retrieve our nation by hyping a video? Are you doing anything concrete besides typing frantically?

You seem to have a lot of rhetoric and a lot of broken facts. How about you list the top three verifiable facts that support you contention? Hey how about that executive order you mention? You sure it says what you SAY it says?

[Alt+F4]

As I am serious about retrieving Our Nation from impending Doom...

Yeah, that's why you spend your time posting on Internet forums, begging people to watch videos, after all Goggle Video will set you free!

[technoextreme]

Just as a side note the Discovery Channel actually has a show on the magic bullet on right now. It truly is the best evidence that shows the stupidity of the CT theories.

[Blender Head]

Just as a side note the Discovery Channel actually has a show on the magic bullet on right now. It truly is the best evidence that shows the stupidity of the CT theories.

Thanks for the notice, watching now!

[iAmerican]

You are going to retrieve our nation by hyping a video? Are you doing anything concrete besides typing frantically?

You seem to have a lot of rhetoric and a lot of broken facts. How about you list the top three verifiable facts that support you contention? Hey how about that executive order you mention? You sure it says what you SAY it says?

I'm not "cashing in" at the primary transhipment point for the Afghan heroin Bush failed to secure a "port deal" to "protect," if that's what you mean.

Executive Order 11,110. Just Google Groups it. An excellent work by "Daeron" is available there. U.S. Notes, not FRN's, were issued during JFK's term. The Fed was out. Bigamist pervert LBJ and masters in the CIA ended President Kennedy's tenure...voila, the Fed was restored. The rest is history.

I say the video is True. There is no glitch, or fault in it, to my knowledge. The ball's in your court. Watch it and criticize it in reply, please.

Let us establish Truth and Justice in the Court of Public Opinion, that the American People Rule in Our Land, once more.

[iAmerican]

Yeah, that's why you spend your time posting on Internet forums, begging people to watch videos, after all Goggle Video will set you free!

Haven't bothered to watch? The false elite needs to be displaced. By whom better than thoughtful men and women willing to act against wrong. Knowledge is power.

"All that is required for Evil to triumph, is that the Good do nothing." Acton

[Alt+F4]

Haven't bothered to watch?

Yeah, I watched it (lots of laundry to fold). Best lie: Oswald was arrested by 20 cops for not paying for his movie ticket.

Actually, I think my father murdered JFK. I often asked him what he was doing when he heard of the assassination and guess what? He doesn't remember! That's airtight evidence, right?

I wonder what interest rate they are paying at the Nazi bank...

[Cl1mh4224rd]

The false elite needs to be displaced.


Then perhaps you should drop the pretense. Elitism doesn't suit you.

[twinstead]

We need polemic, not rhetoric, now. America is in peril and treason must not be allowed to further prosper.

Sorry to break your little spell, but rhetoric is EXACTLY what you are spewing. Mindless, ideologically-biased prattle.

Here's a suggestion: perhaps it is indeed YOU who are the irrational one. Ever thought of that?

[CHF]

Critical thinking and productive argument do not require the discursive blather of punks, Nazis, and fascists....

So why does the Truth Movement team up with so many of them?

[beachnut]

Haven't bothered to watch? The false elite needs to be displaced. By whom better than thoughtful men and women willing to act against wrong. Knowledge is power.

"All that is required for Evil to triumph, is that the Good do nothing." Acton
That video was for real dumb white guys who are unable to think for themselves, lucky that you are a skeptic. Thanks for brining up real stupid videos, it is hard to find that much stupid in one video. Thank you for showing us lies and more lies about another event in US history. Good job, you should be skeptical of these lies! Good job being a skeptic and keeping an open mind, the is the most idiotic movie about the event I have seen yet! Good job, that is the dumbest CT I have seen.

[Jennie C.]

The video, I believe, is the well-thought out, and accurate presentation of the criminal conspiracy that murdered John Kennedy to restore the Fed to our money supply, keep us dying in Vietnam for papal interests, and ultimately effect the treason, vote fraud, and defilement of the Constitution so obvious today.

No, I haven't watched (yet). But, JFK was going to kill the Fed??? I know I was young at the time, but I don't remember that.

[dudalb]

Iamerican's rants are like Uwe Boll movies: you know they will never get any better,but there is a certain interest in seeing just how bad they can get.

[iAmerican]

No, I haven't watched (yet). But, JFK was going to kill the Fed??? I know I was young at the time, but I don't remember that.
JFK did kill the Fed: Viz. Executive Order 11,110. Google Groups of same AND "Daeron" generates excellent analysis and history. One of the distinct advantages of temporarily surviving aging is experience of events. As a Washington Post paperboy during President Kennedy's abbreviated term I was paid in "U.S. Notes." As soon as Bush, Nixon, and the Knight of Malta-led CIA killed him, the Federal Reserve Notes returned to circulation.

Kennedy killed the Fed...the "Fed," and its fascist plutocracy of BIG OIL traitors, killed Kennedy.

[contra]

*watchers bits of the video*

What? People in the 30's liked hitler? Never. The Nazi movement has never been big outside of the Germany. It wasn't the 3rd biggest political party in the UK for a while and the Royal Family were not connected to it.

At first. NOONE though the NAZI's were evil. FFS. Stop drawing Swastikas on everyone because they politically were for someone trying to get an economy out of the toilet. Hitler didn't come to power in the mandate "Kill all Jews" and I wish people would stop saying that anyone who thought his ideas were good in some ways is therefor a genicidal maniac. Look at the good Hitler did for Germany pre war. Its the bias of time that you only look at the bad

When will conspiracy theorists stop firing bullets at a wall... seeing how many they can get into a neat little circle; then draw that circle saying this is evidence that they are a good shot.

Carrying on in the video. The skull and bones society. I SERIUOSLY doubt they have a motto with "Racism, Robbery and Death" in it. Those things may have happened in the past. but its like saying the LAPD is famous for beating people up. They are; it doesn't mean it happens all the time or that most people do it.

The video is full of crap like that.

Looking at hte video in other places
I have SERIOUS issues with how they caclulate the number of shots fired.
They say '12 frames past' and they are saying that the driver is still breaking and he hasn't reacted yet.
To be fair. looking at hte same timeframe and in the video, his wife also doesn't seem to care... as its only asthe car accelerates that she tried to go face to face with him.
So either everyone in the car is heartless... or less than a second has passed in an insane situation. The driver was completly turned around watching the predicent die; yes, for the 1/2 second he did that... yes he was.
The there is the fatal shot and they drive awat quickly. Yeah, because the driver was sure what was happening, JFK was lucid perfectly ok, and communicating to people what had just happened, and a long time passed to make decisions.

If I watch more it will just anger me

[iAmerican]

Sorry to break your little spell, but rhetoric is EXACTLY what you are spewing. Mindless, ideologically-biased prattle.

Here's a suggestion: perhaps it is indeed YOU who are the irrational one. Ever thought of that?
Reference the post to which I was replying...the use of polemic is required that the hatchets, pitchforks, Bibles, and nooses be procured for use by an enraged People against the obvious treasonous false-elite being "protected" by pathetic, and ultimately inconsequential, intermediaries.

Have another beer...

[iAmerican]

*watchers bits of the video*

What? People in the 30's liked hitler? Never. The Nazi movement has never been big outside of the Germany. It wasn't the 3rd biggest political party in the UK for a while and the Royal Family were not connected to it.

At first. NOONE though the NAZI's were evil. FFS. Stop drawing Swastikas on everyone because they politically were for someone trying to get an economy out of the toilet. Hitler didn't come to power in the mandate "Kill all Jews" and I wish people would stop saying that anyone who thought his ideas were good in some ways is therefor a genicidal maniac. Look at the good Hitler did for Germany pre war. Its the bias of time that you only look at the bad

When will conspiracy theorists stop firing bullets at a wall... seeing how many they can get into a neat little circle; then draw that circle saying this is evidence that they are a good shot.

Carrying on in the video. The skull and bones society. I SERIUOSLY doubt they have a motto with "Racism, Robbery and Death" in it. Those things may have happened in the past. but its like saying the LAPD is famous for beating people up. They are; it doesn't mean it happens all the time or that most people do it.

The video is full of crap like that.

Looking at hte video in other places
I have SERIOUS issues with how they caclulate the number of shots fired.
They say '12 frames past' and they are saying that the driver is still breaking and he hasn't reacted yet.
To be fair. looking at hte same timeframe and in the video, his wife also doesn't seem to care... as its only asthe car accelerates that she tried to go face to face with him.
So either everyone in the car is heartless... or less than a second has passed in an insane situation. The driver was completly turned around watching the predicent die; yes, for the 1/2 second he did that... yes he was.
The there is the fatal shot and they drive awat quickly. Yeah, because the driver was sure what was happening, JFK was lucid perfectly ok, and communicating to people what had just happened, and a long time passed to make decisions.

If I watch more it will just anger me
Read "Mein Kampf," and "A Moral Reckoning," by Goldhagen. Hitler was merely replicating that which he had been taught was "noble" in his Roman Catholic catechism: that Rome slaughtered "one million and one hundred thousand Jews in A.D. 70 Jerusalem as proof of the Divine Judgement against those who murdered Our God." DeHarbe's Catechism

Furthermore Hitler's finance by America's Fifth Column, through Prescott Bush and "The Rockefeller of Germany" papal baron Fritz Thyssen, both members of the Vatican-running Knights of Malta (which later went on to supply the foundational leadership of the CIA), and two papal concordats after the Council of Bishops at Fulda withdrew it proscription against voting NSDAP, led directly to the election of the Nazis, Divini Redemptoris, Kristallnacht and the Holocaust.

Also read Goldhagen's "Hitler's Willing Executioners" to know how thoroughly Rome and anti-Semitic Lutheranism had prepared Germanic Europe to use "advantages" of the Industrial and Chemical Revolution to "up the numbers" of mass slaughter of Jews for ritual persecution institutionalized over the ages through more primitive means.

[contra]

Sorry. I wasn't aware that Hitler said this is what he could do before he was elected.
I thought there was a difference between saying there would be a "struggle for world domination as an ongoing racial, cultural and political battle between Aryans and non-Aryans" and setting up death camps for Jews, Gypsies and such.

Nazism was a popular political view at the time. Using scapegoats for problems was also up there as popular aswell.

Show me something from the early 30's that Hitler was bad; or that any of what he was doing was evil. Before the late 30's the NAZI's were not bad guys in most peoples eyes. Its all well and good looking back at them with 20/20 hindsight; but after 1946 find me a respected politican that still held nazi views and was taken seriously. By that time the ones that did support them had changed their tune.

Hell until we began finding camps we were still making fun if the Germans. Oddly the joke ended when we discovered they were killing people en mass.

[iAmerican]

Read "Mein Kampf," much of which was written in Vox Dei, in 1922. He was direct in his threats, echoing the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, by which, in his own words, he was "inebriated." Again "A Moral Reckoning" frames and completes the charge. Hitler's anti-Semitism was learned at the knees of the same priests who obviously molested him. Just because the culture by which he was surrounded, and tapped, was in argreement, does not excuse the Roman Catholic American Fifth Column which financed him through Rockefeller, their cutout Prescott Bush, Sullivan and Cromwell and the Dulles brothers...old line Presbyterians, one of whose sons is now a Cardinal.

[ElMondoHummus]

Watch the video. Every tub sits on its own bottom.


Again, if you "have no opinion" of Jones's work, then you haven't been properly researching it. I dismiss what he puts out purely based on his track record of unsupported, paranoid, and blatantly incorrect information alone. If he suddenly started saying "The sun rises in the east" and "the sky is blue", I still wouldn't trust that information simply because it came from him.

If the video is from Alex Jones, I not only do not need to watch it in order to dismiss it, I will not waste any of my time with it. Others I know and trust would need to convince me that the information is 1. Credible (a long shot, if Alex Jones is involved) and 2. Accurate, and they'd need to be the one presenting it. I will not listen to his trash.

His tub can sit on its own bottom for all I care. I will not lower myself to his level.

[jhunter1163]

iAmerican obviously has no iClue about the difference between Catholics and Presbyterians. And don't tell me that there aren't any; I was raised as one of them and married to a practicing member of the other. There are differences, and they are significant.

[Jonnyclueless]

Might you watch the video and grant us more development of your culinary mastery? It is an hour and a half, but of great import deserving more refined and involved observation. Examine and criticize the video, please, or, if fine dining is not to your taste, take your patronage elsewhere, with my blessings.

But you forget that if one is not inhaling an illegal substance while watching said video, it won't have the same effect.

[Elizabeth I]

So, iA, I just want to clarify: are you saying that John Fitzgerald Kennedy was NOT Catholic?

[JimBenArm]

We need polemic, not rhetoric, now. America is in peril and treason must not be allowed to further prosper.
Crazy people rock!

Please continue to post your nonsense. It's so entertaining!

[twinstead]

Reference the post to which I was replying...the use of polemic is required that the hatchets, pitchforks, Bibles, and nooses be procured for use by an enraged People against the obvious treasonous false-elite being "protected" by pathetic, and ultimately inconsequential, intermediaries.

Have another beer...

I will not reference ANY post, whether it is one you are replying to or not; you're not worth the effort.

You're just another mindless ideologue. You are the internet equivalent of the wild-eyed bearded old man on a busy big-city street corner telling us we are all going to Hell.

You don't have to agree. It's insanity by consensus.

[GT/CS]

I will not reference ANY post, whether it is one you are replying to or not; you're not worth the effort.

You're just another mindless ideologue. You are the internet equivalent of the wild-eyed bearded old man on a busy big-city street corner telling us we are all going to Hell.

You don't have to agree. It's insanity by consensus.

Great analogy!

[JimBenArm]

I will not reference ANY post, whether it is one you are replying to or not; you're not worth the effort.

You're just another mindless ideologue. You are the internet equivalent of the wild-eyed bearded old man on a busy big-city street corner telling us we are all going to Hell.

You don't have to agree. It's insanity by consensus.
Well, we don't have the luxury of seeing him or smelling him in all his glory here, though. So it kinda loses a bit of the effect. Plus, he can't shove Chick Tracts in our faces, or cover us with spittle.
Ah, the good ol' days...

[technoextreme]

At first. NOONE though the NAZI's were evil. FFS. Stop drawing Swastikas on everyone because they politically were for someone trying to get an economy out of the toilet. Hitler didn't come to power in the mandate "Kill all Jews" and I wish people would stop saying that anyone who thought his ideas were good in some ways is therefor a genicidal maniac. Look at the good Hitler did for Germany pre war. Its the bias of time that you only look at the bad


Jews were being blamed long before Hitler rose to power.

[twinstead]

Well, we don't have the luxury of seeing him or smelling him in all his glory here, though. So it kinda loses a bit of the effect. Plus, he can't shove Chick Tracts in our faces, or cover us with spittle.
Ah, the good ol' days...

Yea, good times....

But, I don't know, I can almost feel the spittle on this thread.

[iAmerican]

Non Sequitur...last try, ElMondoHummus.

[iAmerican]

iAmerican obviously has no iClue about the difference between Catholics and Presbyterians. And don't tell me that there aren't any; I was raised as one of them and married to a practicing member of the other. There are differences, and they are significant.

The differences are vast, which is the core reason I pointed out that the son of an established Presbyterian family became a Roman Catholic Cardinal, Einstein. RTP...Read the Post

[twinstead]

Non Sequitur...last try, ElMondoHummus.

So, wild-eyed bearded old man on the street corner, exactly when shall we expect to go to Hell?

[iAmerican]

So, iA, I just want to clarify: are you saying that John Fitzgerald Kennedy was NOT Catholic?

Go back and re-read. Find the jumps and try again.

[Elizabeth I]

Go back and re-read. Find the jumps and try again.

No, I asked you a specific question. Please answer:

Was John Fitzgerald Kennedy a Catholic?

[JimBenArm]

Go back and re-read. Find the jumps and try again.
Ah, so you don't know. Get back to us when you find out, m'kay?

[iAmerican]

So why does the Truth Movement team up with so many of them?

Speak to the fact sequence in the video please.

[twinstead]

Speak to the fact sequence in the video please.

What have you done to verify the 'fact sequence' in that video? Can we see the results of your personal investigation of that video, or do you just believe that stuff no questions asked because it conforms to your world view?

Yes. That was a rhetorical question. Of course you believe it no questions asked.

[JimBenArm]

Speak to the fact sequence in the video please.
There are facts in the video? Really?

[ElMondoHummus]

Non Sequitur...last try, ElMondoHummus.


Non sequitur? Hardly. That phrase means a reply to a statement that logically does not follow from the premise of the statement. Your OP refered to a video hosted by Prison Planet, which is Alex Jones's site. My reply was a condemnation of Alex Jones's work and worldview in general. It was perfectly on topic.

Learn what a phrase means before you use it, please.

And: It matters not whether I have any more tries left or not. Jones's work is still unsupported junk.

[iAmerican]

Yeah, I watched it (lots of laundry to fold). Best lie: Oswald was arrested by 20 cops for not paying for his movie ticket.

Actually, I think my father murdered JFK. I often asked him what he was doing when he heard of the assassination and guess what? He doesn't remember! That's airtight evidence, right?

I wonder what interest rate they are paying at the Nazi bank...

None born before 1959, in America, do not know where he or she was upon learning of Kennedy's assassination. George H.W. Bush's phone call to the FBI 75 minutes after the assassination - on the subject of the assassination - generated a phone memo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bush_Sr_tip_on_JFK_1963.jpg) that when questioned officially he "could not recall."

Dither all you wish, but this is enough evidence for him to fry.

Watch the video. The linkages are incontrovertible.

[iAmerican]

Non sequitur? Hardly. That phrase means a reply to a statement that logically does not follow from the premise of the statement. Your OP refered to a video hosted by Prison Planet, which is Alex Jones's site. My reply was a condemnation of Alex Jones's work and worldview in general. It was perfectly on topic.

Learn what a phrase means before you use it, please.

And: It matters not whether I have any more tries left or not. Jones's work is still unsupported junk.
Bye-bye.

[Jennie C.]

JFK did kill the Fed: Viz. Executive Order 11,110. Google Groups of same AND "Daeron" generates excellent analysis and history. One of the distinct advantages of temporarily surviving aging is experience of events. As a Washington Post paperboy during President Kennedy's abbreviated term I was paid in "U.S. Notes." As soon as Bush, Nixon, and the Knight of Malta-led CIA killed him, the Federal Reserve Notes returned to circulation.

Kennedy killed the Fed...the "Fed," and its fascist plutocracy of BIG OIL traitors, killed Kennedy.

Like it would kill you to just provide a link instead of a google-search phrase (oh, you have 55 posts, i forget how many you need...maybe never mind, but when you can do links, please do).

In any case, the wiki (you folks love wiki, right) link, says (with a bunch of verbiage) that it was Reagan's act that revoked it.

Besides, I thought all of you conspiracy types thought the Fed was the Root of All Eeeevil.

(except for the evil that comes from Dubya, of course)

[HereticHulk]

I've seen this movie. Good stuff!

[Jennie C.]

Reference the post to which I was replying...the use of polemic is required that the hatchets, pitchforks, Bibles, and nooses be procured for use by an enraged People against the obvious treasonous false-elite being "protected" by pathetic, and ultimately inconsequential, intermediaries.

Have another beer...

Thanks, I will have another beer (well, this one appears to be still 1/2 full, but in a little while).

Would y'all (ALL of you) please leave the Bible out of this. Guess what? People who believe the Bible are FAR in the minority of the folk who believe all this 911/Moon/JFK/nameit conspiracy crap. AND, we marvel at the space program, especially when we went to the Moon (those old enuf to remember, can't speak for the others).

I know you'll make fun of us (me) for believing the Bible's story of creation, but that's a separate issue. We DON'T buy this other -rule-10- stuff.

Urrrgh, i just get tired of being lumped with chris7, lastchild, td329-or whatever-number, etc, folks :mad:

And, see above, i even drink beer. Heck, I might even be a reg-a-lar gal.

[JimBenArm]

I've seen this movie. Good stuff!
Well, there's an endorsement for you!

Aren't you proud?

[MIKILLINI]

I believe this 90 minute video, The Murder of JFK: Bush Family Connections is a true and accurate analysis of the Kennedy Assassination, fully explaining the present closet-queen, draft-dodging Oval Office occupant's shredding the Constitution, his PNAC-9-11 and false war killing thousands of innocents, driving up the price of oil and debasing our currency.

Iam, could you show the evidence of the constitution being shredded by Bushie? The claim is made, so where's the proof?

Do you believe PNAC was a (wink, wink) signatory policy subsequently executed on 9/11 by shadow organizations connected with the Bushies? And the prime factor for this was to enhance the Bushie family income by increasing the price of oil possibly creating a recession around the world?

Who would benefit from our economy being debased since our currency is so tied up in oil? Why would Bushie let the currency have less value since a lowered value would be less beneficial for him or the nation?

As far as the JFK conspiracy video goes, you can make a case with circumstantial premises, but you need an investigation that would want and need more than just speculation and circumstance. You would also need the government to appoint a special counsel with subpoena power to investigate those discrepancies.
Does the video provide enough proof of motive? A smoking gun? To Me it doesn't.

http://home.insight.rr.com/snookems/History/Peller-Clara.jpg

ETA: Where's the evidence??

[Hans]

iA

Well thanks for the reply

You stated

1. None born before 1959, in America, do not know where he or she was upon learning of Kennedy's assassination. George H.W. Bush's phone call to the FBI 75 minutes after the assassination - on the subject of the assassination - generated a phone memo that when questioned officially he "could not recall."

Dither all you wish, but this is enough evidence for him to fry.


I must ask what is in this memo that causes you say "this is enough evidence for him to fry". Have you actually read it? What do you think it says?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bush_Sr_tip_on_JFK_1963.jpg

." As soon as Bush, Nixon, and the Knight of Malta-led CIA killed him, the Federal Reserve Notes returned to circulation.

The Federal Reserve was operating normally before, during and after JFK shooting.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/weberman/jfk.htm

This link above explains what the fringe nutter Marrs made up and how non-skeptical believers repeat it without knowing anything about it. It has no basis in fact.

So we have two documents which you say are important in your case/the videos case - please explain why you think that.

[jhunter1163]

Thanks, I will have another beer (well, this one appears to be still 1/2 full, but in a little while).

Would y'all (ALL of you) please leave the Bible out of this. Guess what? People who believe the Bible are FAR in the minority of the folk who believe all this 911/Moon/JFK/nameit conspiracy crap. AND, we marvel at the space program, especially when we went to the Moon (those old enuf to remember, can't speak for the others).

I know you'll make fun of us (me) for believing the Bible's story of creation, but that's a separate issue. We DON'T buy this other -rule-10- stuff.

Urrrgh, i just get tired of being lumped with chris7, lastchild, td329-or whatever-number, etc, folks :mad:

And, see above, i even drink beer. Heck, I might even be a reg-a-lar gal.

If you drink beer, you're my kind of reg-a-lar gal. But seriously, folks...

http://www.fiu.edu/~mirandas/bios-d.htm#Dulles

OK, here's the bio of the Dulles guy. iAmerican, what's your iPoint? It looks like JP II elevated him to cardinal deacon to reward him for a long lifetime of service to the Church. And he was 83 when he was elevated, so by church law he couldn't participate in any conclaves anyway. There's nothing remotely sinister in anything this guy has ever done.

He couldn't pick who his father was.

[iAmerican]

Jennie C.,

This (http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_frm/thread/a61c3595cf11c827/9ae86ede11a55ccc?lnk=st&q=Executive+Order+11%2C110+%22Daeron%22+#9ae86ede1 1a55ccc) is a good entry. "Daeron" seems utterly credible. Your response?

[JimBenArm]

Jennie C.,

This (http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_frm/thread/a61c3595cf11c827/9ae86ede11a55ccc?lnk=st&q=Executive+Order+11%2C110+%22Daeron%22+#9ae86ede1 1a55ccc) is a good entry. "Daeron" seems utterly credible. Your response?
"Utterly credible"? What does this mean? He's a bozo hiding behing a fake name on an internet page, and he's "utterly credible"?

And we're the gullible ones?

[CurtC]

iAmerican, I'm surprised you're getting as much response as you have been. The way we expect an argument to be made, is to actually make the argument. Telling us to watch a 90-minute video doesn't cut it. If there is something in that video that you find compelling, describe exactly what it is and why you think it's compelling. Feel free to provide a time index so that we can find that section of the video.

But don't expect anyone here to watch a long video and write you a report. If you have an argument to make, then make it!

[iAmerican]

No problem, Curt. Life goes on.

[CurtC]

So... you don't actually have an argument to make?

[iAmerican]

Your choice of avatar and location says all one need know. Have fun.

[JimBenArm]

Such intelligent discussion! Thank you, iAm, for sharing such wisdom with us!

[beachnut]

I have tried, that is still the dumbest movie yet! Pure stupid, with nuts all over!

Please if someone finds a fact based in reality to support the doltish conclusion, present it!?

[ktesibios]

I wonder if iAmerican realizes that the CT he is shilling for is just another re-re-re-re-re-re-rehashing of paranoid conspiracy theory industry Shinola which is so old that there are @#$% FAQs about it?

Funny, how woowoos constantly pop up going "look at this video! OMG! 111!!11eleventy!" as if they've discovered something new and exciting, which invariably turns out to be a collection of claims that were thoroughly debunked back when Grandpa had tailfins. It used to be sort of cute, but has matured into merely tiresome.

As for E.O. 11110: if you want to research an Executive Order in the context of a CT the worst thing you can do is to Google it, unless you actually want to wind up neck-deep in conspiracist horsepuckey. The place to start looking is the Federal Register, here (http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/). Explore it a little and you'll quickly get a feel for finding what you're looking for.

The Federal Register site doesn't include the text of E.O.s which had no legal force as of Jan. 20, 1989, which is the case for E.O.11110. When that happens, a rather comprehensive compilation of E.O.s going back to John Adams, irrespective of whether they are still in effect, can be found here (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/executive_orders.php).

Here (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=59049) is the full text of E.O. 11110, and here (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=59339) is the text of E.O. 10289, which it amended.

As for the meaning of all this, there's a FAQ on the Federal Reserve conspiracy theories, which contains a nice clear explanation of this E.O. from someone who actually knows what he's talking about, here (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/3616/flaherty9.html).

It's about a page's worth of text, but the meat of it is essentially:


To conserve the Treasury's silver needs, the Silver Purchase Act and related measures were repealed by Congress in 1963 with Public Law 88-36. Following the repeal, only the President could authorize new silver certificate issues, and no longer the Treasury Secretary. The law, signed by Kennedy himself, also permits the Federal Reserve to issue small denomination bills to replace the outgoing silver certificates (prior to the act, the Fed could only issue Federal Reserve Notes in larger denominations). The Treasury's shrinking silver stock could then be used to mint coins only and not have to back currency. The repeal left only the President with the authority to issue silver certificates, however it did permit him to delegate this authority. E.O. 11,110 does this by transferring the authority from the President to the Treasury Secretary.2
E.O. 11,110 did not create authority to issue new silver certificates, it only affected who could give the order. The purpose of the order was to facilitate the reduction of certificates in circulation, not to increase them. In October 1964 the Treasury ceased issuing them entirely. The Coinage Act of 1965 (PL 89-81) ended the practice of using silver in most U.S. coins, and in 1968 Congress ended the redeemability of silver certificates (PL 90-29). E.O. 11,110 was never reversed by President Johnson and remained on the books until 1987 when there was a general cleaning-up of executive orders (E.O. 12,608, 9/9/87). However, by this time the remaining legislative authority behind E.O. 11,110 had been repealed by Congress with PL 97-258 in 1982.2
In summary, E.O. 11,110 did not create new authority to issue additional silver certificates. In fact, its intention was to ease the process for their removal so that small denomination Federal Reserve Notes could replace them in accordance with a law Kennedy himself signed. If Kennedy had really sought to reduce Federal Reserve power, then why did he sign a bill that gave the Fed still more power?I'm saddened to see that iAmerican seems to have lost the knack of writing the long, surreal, stream-of-consciousness posts that suggested the existence of a computer model of psilocybin. They didn't make any sense, but they had a sort of entertainment value in a "Plan 9 from Outer Space" kind of way. All I see in this thread is stuff that doesn't make any sense and isn't any fun either. It's a bummer to see an artist turn away from a promising style.

Oh well, such is life.

<plonk>

[twinstead]

Don't take it personally, iAmerican; we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you...

[ElMondoHummus]

I have tried, that is still the dumbest movie yet! Pure stupid, with nuts all over!

Please if someone finds a fact based in reality to support the doltish conclusion, present it!?


You tried to watch it? Any brain damage?

[iAmerican]

" If the American People ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied. The issuing of money should be taken from the banks and restored to Congress and the people to whom it belongs."
-Thomas Jefferson

[JimBenArm]

" If the American People ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied. The issuing of money should be taken from the banks and restored to Congress and the people to whom it belongs."
-Thomas Jefferson
"The issuance of currency should be taken from the banks and congress and given entirely to Navy veterans. No good reason, just sounds right."
-JimBenArm

[beachnut]

You tried to watch it? Any brain damage?
The head of the FBI did it! or was it... Monsters Inc has more reality! and we are watching it now, as I baby sit two grandsons, fix a bottle, and work on a wine data base program.

Severe brain damage, repaired with much beer…

[GStan]

Your choice of avatar and location says all one need know. Have fun.

CurtC's avatar does actually give me the creeps a bit...

[Redtail]

"The issuance of currency should be taken from the banks and congress and given entirely to Navy veterans. No good reason, just sounds right."
-JimBenArm

"Four days after that occurs, Pattaya will be rich enough to become it's own country and a bar girl named "Cherry" will be the richest person in the world."
-Redtail

[twinstead]

Severe brain damage, repaired with much beer…


Mmmmmmmm. Beeeeeeer.

[Drudgewire]

Severe brain damage, repaired with much beer…
Thank goodness for the miracle of modern medicine. :alc:

[CurtC]

What, y'all actually browse the forum with avatar display turned on? Why on earth would you do that? I forget I even have an avatar set until someone mentions it.

[David Wong]

All in all, my favorite part of iAm's posts is his repeated assertion that the claims in the video would be actionable if false, and since the accused have not sued, the claims must be true because truth is a defense in a libel case.

Thus, every accusation that is ever made, anywhere, in any medium, including those that conflict with each other, must all be true if they did not result in a lawsuit.

[twinstead]

All in all, my favorite part of iAm's posts is his repeated assertion that the claims in the video would be actionable if false, and since the accused have not sued, the claims must be true because truth is a defense in a libel case.


This must be a variance on the 'no evidence is evidence' claim.

[ktesibios]

" If the American People ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied. The issuing of money should be taken from the banks and restored to Congress and the people to whom it belongs."
-Thomas Jefferson

Ignoring for the moment that this is a classic example of the Argument from Authority fallacy, and the folly of assuming that the opinions of an 18th-century thinker whose ideal was an agrarian society of yeoman farmers would be directly relevant to the industrial economy which actually developed in the USA, I have to ask:

Does iAmerican accept this purported quote as authentic? If so, what is the evidentiary basis for accepting it? What is the primary source for it?

I already know where the woowoo Web sites got it, and I wish iAmerican lotsa luck in finding that primary source

[MIKILLINI]

This must be a variance on the 'no evidence is evidence' claim.

That variance is the usual truther "OMG! Did you see this?" research.
All conspiracy with no evidence or "evidence" that's been debunked.

[Trutherbabble] Hey, it's still evidence! {Trutherbabble]

[Tippit]

Actually, I think my father murdered JFK. I often asked him what he was doing when he heard of the assassination and guess what? He doesn't remember! That's airtight evidence, right?




Speaking of fathers, did you know that Woody Harrelson's father, Charles Harrelson, claimed that he was a shooter in the Kennedy assassination? Charles Harrelson was serving time in a Supermax prison for the murder of a US Federal Judge when he died last year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Harrelson

[ElMondoHummus]

What, y'all actually browse the forum with avatar display turned on? Why on earth would you do that? I forget I even have an avatar set until someone mentions it.


You forgot that avatar?

[MIKILLINI]

You forgot that avatar?

Maybe it's more of where CurtC is located than the Avatar itself.
iAm's a bit wary of Dallas since JFK was shot there. Perhaps he believes CurtC was in on the conspiracy, or works for the CIA.:eek:

[Alt+F4]

None born before 1959, in America, do not know where he or she was upon learning of Kennedy's assassination.

As I mentioned in a previous post my father (born in 1921) could not recall where he was upon learning of JFK's assassination. Being Irish, he was obviously pro-Nazi since Ireland was neutral during World War II. In the late 1960s he worked on the demolition of buildings in lower Manhattan that made way for the construction of the World Trade Center. Add to that the fact that he, like almost everyone else mentioned in that video, is now dead.

As you said, the linkages are incontrovertible. My father was the mastermind behind the JFK assassination.

Case solved. The end.

[Alt+F4]

Speaking of fathers, did you know that Woody Harrelson's father, Charles Harrelson, claimed that he was a shooter in the Kennedy assassination? Charles Harrelson was serving time in a Supermax prison for the murder of a US Federal Judge when he died last year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Harrelson

Yes, didn't he claim to be one of the "three bums"?

[Drudgewire]

So you can shoot presidents but not judges? How the [rule10] did Bush survive two terms? :confused:

[Alt+F4]

So you can shoot presidents but not judges? How the [rule10] did Bush survive two terms? :confused:

And how did big Bush and the Shrub loose all those Congressional elections?

[CurtC]

Yes, didn't he claim to be one of the "three bums"?
Unfortunately for him, but the three tramps have all been identified, and none of them is Harrelson, nor George Bush, nor Jack Ruby.

[Hans]

Ah I see iAmerican continues to dodge the questions about E0 and Bush memo.

Just as I thought he hasn't even read them.

[iAmerican]

Ah I see iAmerican continues to dodge the questions about E0 and Bush memo.

Just as I thought he hasn't even read them.
Seem a thread has been crossed, somehow...here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3338178#post3338178)

[iAmerican]

attempt to delete double post...thnx