Wonder how many of these people were "skeptics"...?

[Locknar]

The fact that Mayday is a nurse is one of the many, many things that makes me glad I don't live in the USA! :jaw-droppBeing a skeptic, I'd not so readily accept that claim solely on her word. Truth be told, she has posted enough in term of wrong or otherwise dangerous "medicine" to make me seriously doubt her nursing claim.

[mayday]

You don't think people with - um - unusual opinions ever get to be nurses in any other country?

Liz, I'm RN, BSN from MTSU.

I used to be quite the horsewoman, myself. My oldest daughter has taken after me. She has a pony but has outgrown him and is now hounding me to get her a horse.

I don't know what it is though, I just am not into horses like I was in my younger years. I realized this when I went to the Xmas parade this past year and had to hold my nose at the end when the horses went by.

These days, I'd rather go to the catch the latest sale at The Gap or walk around the park than go out and fool with horses. I guess I'm just a frumpy mother who'd rather bake cookies and cross stitch on the front porch anymore. I'm like that Weird Al song, "White and Nerdy" (check it out on youtube, it's hilarious!)

I used to love animals. I still like animals, I just don't watch Animal Planet with the same enthusiasm. I only care about having one dog and maybe one cat (outside, of course). The happiest I had been in a long time was last spring when we hung my husband's Cockatiels on the front porch to be in the warm weather. He had two; a male and female. He thought it would be neat to hatch baby birds. Well, I wasn't thrilled with them. They were stinky and messy and I hated cleaning their cage. Anyway, we had hung them on the porch and gone to town. When we came back the birds were mating and not wanting my children to see this I took a stick and hit the cage to get them to stop. All of a sudden the bottom of the cage fell and one of the birds went one way and one went the other. My husband started freaking out, running around yelling "We'll never get them back! THAT'S JUST GREAT!!! THEY'LL DIE!!!"
I had to turn away to hide the big smile on my face. I was so glad to get rid of those things.
He held out hope we'd be able to catch them again but thank goodness, they went on their merry way.

Anyway...Lockstar, you're trying to get my goat again. I might humor you later, I'll just say right now, though, that link was for the posters who seemed to not understand what dry lube is.

[mayday]

Being a skeptic, I'd not so readily accept that claim solely on her word. Truth be told, she has posted enough in term of wrong or otherwise dangerous "medicine" to make me seriously doubt her nursing claim.


My license is public record on the Tennessee nurse license verification site but I'd be stupid to give you my name.

Better to let you live in ignorant bliss than possibly give some pervo my personal information.

[FramerDave]

...All of a sudden the bottom of the cage fell and one of the birds went one way and one went the other. My husband started freaking out, running around yelling "We'll never get them back! THAT'S JUST GREAT!!! THEY'LL DIE!!!"
I had to turn away to hide the big smile on my face. I was so glad to get rid of those things.

He held out hope we'd be able to catch them again but thank goodness, they went on their merry way.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, people's exhibit #46A of Ms. Mayday's kindness and compassion for fellow humans and other living creatures.

[Locknar]

Anyway...Lockstar, you're trying to get my goat again. I might humor you later, I'll just say right now, though, that link was for the posters who seemed to not understand what dry lube is.This seems unlikely, as I don't recall anyone being confused or otherwise not understanding what "dry lube is". You/"hubby" provided an answer, and it was wrong.

My license is public record on the Tennessee nurse license verification site but I'd be stupid to give you my name.

Better to let you live in ignorant bliss than possibly give some pervo my personal information.Based on your fundamentally wrong displays wrt "medicine" and medical knowledge in general this seems unlikely.

[mayday]

This seems unlikely, as I don't recall anyone being confused or otherwise not understanding what "dry lube is". You/"hubby" provided an answer, and it was wrong.

Based on your fundamentally wrong displays wrt "medicine" and medical knowledge in general this seems unlikely.

I'm laughing, ha ha.

I shouldn't bother to ask, but what answer regarding dry lube are you saying is wrong?

[Locknar]

I'm laughing, ha ha.

I shouldn't bother to ask, but what answer regarding dry lube are you saying is wrong?When asked "what dry lube did 'hubby' use", you provided a link to a product that did not exist in 1980.

[mayday]

When asked "what dry lube did 'hubby' use", you provided a link to a product that did not exist in 1980.

You asked a general question about dry lube, which lead me to think you didn't have a clue what dry lube is.

I still think you don't have a clue.

[Akhenaten]

My license is public record on the Tennessee nurse license verification site but I'd be stupid to give you my name.

Better to let you live in ignorant bliss than possibly give some pervo my personal information.

It seems odd to worry about privacy when you've previously displayed an almost exhibitionist urge to publish the gory details of your private life, in spite of the fact that nobody wants to know.

[Akhenaten]

You asked a general question about dry lube, which lead me to think you didn't have a clue what dry lube is.

I still think you don't have a clue.

Pot. Space Shuttle. Black.

[SezMe]

mayday, you know it is against the MA to have multiple people using the same account. Since I hear so much about your "Old Man" in this and other threads, I wonder if you are violating the MA. Why doesn't he get his own damn account so we can tell Ms. Woo from Mr. Woo.

[PetersCreek]

You asked a general question about dry lube, which lead me to think you didn't have a clue what dry lube is.

I still think you don't have a clue.

I have a clue...and I'm very interested in the answer to Lock's question. Which dry lube did hubby use in 1980?

[mayday]

I have a clue...and I'm very interested in the answer to Lock's question. Which dry lube did hubby use in 1980?

I justed asked him and he said how is he supposed to remember what stinking brand it was, it was 28 yrs. ago.

Akhenaten, there is a big difference in posting personal accounts anonymously and posting your personal information so some weirdo can come looking for you.

[mayday]

mayday, you know it is against the MA to have multiple people using the same account. Since I hear so much about your "Old Man" in this and other threads, I wonder if you are violating the MA. Why doesn't he get his own damn account so we can tell Ms. Woo from Mr. Woo.

Well, with our ham radio licenses, we can allow people to talk on the radio under our call sign.

The old man doesn't type. He is a one finger typist and being legally blind it's hard on his eyes to read the screen for too long.

Do I need to open a new account for him? The TOS says we can't have multiple accounts on the same computer.

[Locknar]

You asked a general question about dry lube, which lead me to think you didn't have a clue what dry lube is.

I still think you don't have a clue.This is obviously a false statement; several members (myself, Tricky, Miss Whiplash) have asked the wrt the type of dry lubricant “hubby” claims to have used on his gun that night.

Speaking of which...exactly what type of dry lubricant does your "husband" use on his guns? Specifically what model was he using that night?
You've made a large number of rather extraordinary claims, which require extraordinary support/documentation to be taken seriously. To date, you’ve done nothing to support or otherwise advance your (what can only be viewed now as) false claims.

Your continued avoidance, non-answers, insults, taunts only make you appear intellectually dishonest.

[Garrette]

The old man doesn't type. He is a one finger typist and being legally blind it's hard on his eyes to read the screen for too long.Good. That's exactly the kind of man we need running around the woods in the middle of the night trying to shoot aliens.

[For those unaware, that's exactly what mayday said her husband did in another thread]

[Miss Whiplash]

My license is public record on the Tennessee nurse license verification site but I'd be stupid to give you my name.

Better to let you live in ignorant bliss than possibly give some pervo my personal information.

Rita? I swear this is you. Tell us about your Paso Fino and movie scripts.

[mayday]

Good. That's exactly the kind of man we need running around the woods in the middle of the night trying to shoot aliens.

[For those unaware, that's exactly what mayday said her husband did in another thread]


He did not start losing his eyesight until he was in his mid thirties.

[mayday]

Rita? I swear this is you. Tell us about your Paso Fino and movie scripts.



Who the h e double hockey sticks is Rita?

I don't know anything about any horses or movie scripts.

[Garrette]

He did not start losing his eyesight until he was in his mid thirties.Got it. Unlike his eyesight, however, and unlike everyone else's memories, his memory remained perfect and infallible despite not writing the incident down and despite not even telling anyone of it until a year after it happened.

At least his hindsight is fine.

[Porterboy]

Got it. Unlike his eyesight, however, and unlike everyone else's memories, his memory remained perfect and infallible despite not writing the incident down and despite not even telling anyone of it until a year after it happened.

At least his hindsight is fine.

I must remember to avoid taking walks in those particular woods!

(BTW, Garette, off topic: On the old Derren Brown forum you had a brilliant signature. Something like: "I am the thief who comes in the night..." Could you remind me of it please?)

[Garrette]

(BTW, Garette, off topic: On the old Derren Brown forum you had a brilliant signature. Something like: "I am the thief who comes in the night..." Could you remind me of it please?)I did? Wow. I'd forgotten about being on the DB forum.

The only thing I can think of is the following, which is the tagline from the old Darkwing Duck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RJsjeoP8_w)cartoon, which my kids loved and I thought was very clever and, in the ways of the old Warner Brothers toons, fairly grown up in some of its humor:

"I am the terror that flaps in the night."

[Miss Whiplash]

Who the h e double hockey sticks is Rita?

I don't know anything about any horses or movie scripts.

You previously posted you were once quite horsewoman. Now you are not.

Which is it?

Focus!

[mayday]

You previously posted you were once quite horsewoman. Now you are not.

Which is it?

Focus!



Where did all this talk about Rita and Paso Fino horses (I assume) and moviescripts come into the picture???

[Locknar]

Where did all this talk about Rita and Paso Fino horses (I assume) and moviescripts come into the picture???Speaking of which (ok, not really); are you ever going to tell us the dry gun lube "hubby" used? I'm guessing not...since being a camp fire story there was no gun, no orchard, etc.

[Miss Whiplash]

Where did all this talk about Rita and Paso Fino horses (I assume) and moviescripts come into the picture???

Because you sound just like the person I mentioned. She posted the same tales you do over a period of 10 years, trolling the internet and disrupting hundreds of forums.

Answer the question- which is it? You stated you were once quite a horsewoman; now you state you are not.

Are you ok? You sound tense.

[mayday]

Because you sound just like the person I mentioned. She posted the same tales you do over a period of 10 years, trolling the internet and disrupting hundreds of forums.

Answer the question- which is it? You stated you were once quite a horsewoman; now you state you are not.

Are you ok? You sound tense.

I was once a horsewoman. I participated in goat tying and barrel racing and trail riding. I wouldn't be so cruel as to get on a horse with the shape I'm in now.

I'm changing so much. I used to love animals, now, I don't even want pets, except for a dog and maybe a cat. I'd rather stay at home and relax in the jacuzzi tub and watch tv. That's no life, I know, but that's me now.

[bencg]

Mayday - you seem to have ignored my reply to you. Do you still assert that vaccines can cause HIV and children sometimes inexplicably contract it?


A better saying is that a statistician is someone who can have their head in an oven and their feet in a fridge and say overall they are fine... but you are blowing smoke; It's irrelevant as I am not misusing statisitics I am quoting a very well referenced wiki article (and providing pubmed sources) after doing some research on the issue.
You are simply asserting your opinion but you provide no evidence at all. (!)

I did include the link to the article (but I cannot post them well formed yet) -
To be clear here is the wiki link again (remove blanks in the first part) plus the pubmed source refs, if you go to the article you can follow the links to the source refs for yourself; (you know... like.... research)

(In case you are unsure Pubmed is a database of peer reviewed biomedical research.)

h t t p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_origin#Oral_polio_vaccine_hypothesis

The PUBMED sources are;
# ^ (1992) "Panel nixes Congo trials as AIDS source". Science 258 (5083): 738-9. PMID 1439779.
# ^ Rambaut A, Robertson DL, Pybus OG, Peeters M, Holmes EC (2001). "Human immunodeficiency virus. Phylogeny and the origin of HIV-1". Nature 410 (6832): 1047-8. doi:10.1038/35074179. PMID 11323659.
# ^ Poinar H, Kuch M, Pääbo S (2001). "Molecular analyses of oral polio vaccine samples". Science 292 (5517): 743-4. doi:10.1126/science.1058463. PMID 11326104.
# ^ Weiss RA (2001). "Polio vaccines exonerated". Nature 410 (6832): 1035-6. doi:10.1038/35074222. PMID 11323649.
# ^ Worobey M, Santiago M, Keele B, Ndjango J, Joy J, Labama B, Dhed'A B, Rambaut A, Sharp P, Shaw G, Hahn B (2004). "Origin of AIDS: contaminated polio vaccine theory refuted". Nature 428 (6985): 820. PMID 15103367.
# ^ Blancou P, Vartanian J, Christopherson C, Chenciner N, Basilico C, Kwok S, Wain-Hobson S (2001). "Polio vaccine samples not linked to AIDS". Nature 410 (6832): 1045-6. PMID 11323657.
# ^ Berry N, Davis C, Jenkins A, Wood D, Minor P, Schild G, Bottiger M, Holmes H, Almond N (2001). "Vaccine safety. Analysis of oral polio vaccine CHAT stocks". Nature 410 (6832): 1046-7. PMID 11323658.





Sure, just wanted to make sure you weren't under the misapprehension that gay sex and drugs are the only way you get it. You must know that this is a common misperception about HIV transmission, you should make sure your readers have the right facts! :)






Well you state this, but where is the evidence? Is there any study of this? Like I said AFAIK we DO understand the transmission vectors pretty well. You saying otherwise means nothing to me unless you can point to some evidence (like a pubmed ref or some other peer reviewed study) to support your claim.





First I wasn't saying anything about kids having sex per se. I just wanted to list the most common transmission vectors as you listed the others. BUT if you are asking me is it more likely that HIV is transmitted to a child from a vaccine or from some kind of sex, unfortunately I think the answer is sex - because no vaccine has the HIV virus in it! I suppose it just might technically be possible for very very bad needle hygiene to pass it but its unlikely, it would pretty much require you to fill the syringe with one patients blood and inject it into another, before it got cold or dry. AFAIK only IV drug users backwash their syringes like this... as a nurse you probably know a lot more about the mechanics of needles than I do but it seems it would need to be a malicous act by the medical staff to achieve this. Certainly HIV dies very very quickly if not in body temp fluid, and I would expect basic needle hygiene to remove this risk. I don't think thats what you are referring to though right?





Well that sounds reasonable-ish, like you are protective. But thats not what you said before - previously you stated;

But then immediately contradicted yourself with;

You basically went from "I'm not a sadist" to "I'm a sadist to someone who I hate" in one breath. Thats very different from protecting your loved ones imo.

I'm not sure how my beliefs are relevant to this - but I am basically a humanist pacifist. If you attack my family all bets are off I guess, but I think violence dehumanises the person committing the violence. YMMV.

[Married2aWooster]

My take-away from this thread: Shooting fish in a barrel is nowhere near as exciting as it sounds.

[Locknar]

My take-away from this thread: Shooting fish in a barrel is nowhere near as exciting as it sounds.You know, having seen the Mythbusters take on the whole "shooting fish in a barrel", I had the same thought.