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ZenFountain
16th January 2008, 05:20 PM
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....That is Paul's defense today, and I'm inclined to believe him. The race-baiting newsletter passages do not sound like anything else Paul has said or written in his public life. People who were familiar with the newsletters' production confirm that they were largely ghostwritten and that Paul often did not review them prior to publication.

Yet the fact remains that Paul earned money and built his fund-raising list with newsletters that seemed to be aimed at bigots. Given his association with "paleolibertarians" such as Lew Rockwell who sought to construct an anti-statist coalition partly by appealing to racial resentments, he owes his supporters more than accepting "moral responsibility" for inadequately overseeing the newsletters to which he lent his name.

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If I thought Ron Paul might be president in 2009, I'd have to admit that his newsletter negligence raises questions about his judgment and about the people he'd choose to advise him. But since the value of the Paul campaign lies in promoting the libertarian ideals of limited government, individual freedom, and tolerance, the real problem is that the newsletters contradict this message.

Full Article (http://www.reason.com/news/show/124417.html)

Bravo Jacob, you've said what's been needed to be said about "the newsletters" issue for a long time and Paul's association with Lew Rockwell in particular. For those that might not know, Reason is a libertarian publication with an excellent blog covering all things libertarian. The word libertarian and the name Ron Paul have become a veritable faux pas around here, but I still find myself in the awkward position of being genuinely sympathetic to many of the principals of libertarianism while simultaneously despising most of the new recruits that have joined the cause via Ron Paul and the 9/11 troof brigades. Oh joy...

Brainster
16th January 2008, 05:35 PM
Rockwell was a regular blogger (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lew-rockwell) over at the Huffington Post for awhile, until a rumor started swirling around that he was having an affair with Cindy Sheehan (http://www.secondbreakfast.net/archives/003067.html). Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows!

ZenFountain
16th January 2008, 06:10 PM
As I understand, many years ago Cato ran a publication that was meant to bridge liberals and libertarians that were equally weary of the expansion of executive power and aggressive foreign policy. I'm not surprised that Lew was a poster on Huffington. I find myself more in line with the liberal end of libertarianism but don't care for liberal bloggers, while at the same time being suspicious of paleo-libertarians like Lew but loving the blogs Cato and Reason run. I'd love to find a blog for liberal leaning libertarians that's not filled with self-righteous hippies!

dudalb
17th January 2008, 11:44 AM
I get the feeling that a lot of the Paulistas are caught up in a personality cult . They will beleive and support literally ANYTHING that Ron Paul says. People like this are NOT good material to become Long term Libertarians. As soon as the Paul Bubble bursts, they will lose all interest in the Libertarian movement.
I think a lot of long term Libertarian relise this,which is why the Paul movment has been greeted with a great deal of scepticism by a lot of Libertarians.

T.A.M.
17th January 2008, 12:08 PM
Most Mor-RONS are, IMO, simply rebellious "rage against the machine" youth (18-26) who follow their hormones and false sense of intellectualism over their rational, logical minds.

Let the whining and bashing from the Mor-RONs begin...lol

TAM:)

dudalb
17th January 2008, 12:48 PM
Yup, the Paulistas are pretty much all the "Neo" ( the characted in "the Matrix") wannabes ....again.
It is not a coincidence that so many of the Paulistas are also Truthers.

Drudgewire
17th January 2008, 04:15 PM
Yet the fact remains that Paul earned money and built his fund-raising list with newsletters that seemed to be aimed at bigots.
Oooooooh, dat's GOTTA huit.

Kerberos
17th January 2008, 11:16 PM
Most Mor-RONS are, IMO, simply rebellious "rage against the machine" youth (18-26) who follow their hormones and false sense of intellectualism over their rational, logical minds.

Let the whining and bashing from the Mor-RONs begin...lol

TAM:)

As a rebelious "rage against the machine" youth (18-26) who follow my hormones and false sense of intellectualism over my rational, logical mind, I object ot this unfair and degrading accusation.

ZenFountain
18th January 2008, 01:27 AM
Here's (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=92990) another post on ronpaulforums.com claiming shenanigans between James Kirchick @ TRN and Reason. I've learned a few new words in the past few days including beltway libertarian, cosmolibertarian and libertarian in name only. It's too bad these clowns cannot understand that the very idea of libertarian is incompatible with a strict in-or-out ideology, I love how they have anointed themselves as whips to lash any self identified libertarian who dare not kneel at the alter of Ron Paul. Isn't that the type of conformity and dirty trickery that the revolution is supposed to be breaking? I suppose this whole episode wouldn't be complete without a mandatory dose of irony.

cisco
20th January 2008, 08:01 PM
I'm shocked at how much 9/11 Trooth and Paultards have turned me off to libertarianism. I almost voted for Harry Brown in 2000 (actually would have voted for him if a registration error didn't prevent me from voting.)

I've been becoming more and more moderate for the last few years but the Trooth has sickened me to the point that I cringe when I think of Ron Paul now.

Way to market your candidate, boys!

T.A.M.
20th January 2008, 08:11 PM
As a rebelious "rage against the machine" youth (18-26) who follow my hormones and false sense of intellectualism over my rational, logical mind, I object ot this unfair and degrading accusation.

lol...by objecting then, should you not be calling me "the man", claiming I am part of some vast right wing conspiracy, and creating a "video" to prove that the NWO rules all?

In other words, that was a pretty lame "whine" for Generation-Yer (or is it Generation-Zer now?).

TAM;);)

Kerberos
20th January 2008, 11:54 PM
lol...by objecting then, should you not be calling me "the man", claiming I am part of some vast right wing conspiracy, and creating a "video" to prove that the NWO rules all?

I did, but the CIA mind control satellites prevents you from seeing what I actually wrote.