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The Painter
1st February 2008, 03:54 AM
Well I figure with her name and my name together, everyone will run in here to beat me up.
Ann will vote for Hillary Clinton;
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/39834.html
Do you still hate her now? Of course you do.
Cain
1st February 2008, 04:05 AM
I am going to rank the remaining five candidates in order from least to most evil.
Obama
Huckabee
McCain
Romney
Clinton
Coulter's endorsement is surprising... but the surprise comes from her honesty, not her choice.
Redtail
1st February 2008, 04:05 AM
Well I figure with her name and my name together, everyone will run in here to beat me up.
Ann will vote for Hillary Clinton;
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/39834.html
Do you still hate her now? Of course you do.
Why no! I love her now! I mean she'll vote for Hilliary and the only people who don't like her are Liberals! :rolleyes:
JoeEllison
1st February 2008, 04:07 AM
Wow, one right-wing woman voting for another right-wing woman... what a shock!
HarryKeogh
1st February 2008, 04:34 AM
So Hillary has the support of AFSCME and the undead. Nice!
volatile
1st February 2008, 04:52 AM
Disinfo! Cointelpro!
Drudgewire
1st February 2008, 05:34 AM
I am going to rank the remaining five candidates in order from least to most evil.
Obama
Huckabee
McCain
Romney
Clinton
Coulter's endorsement is surprising... but the surprise comes from her honesty, not her choice.
Geez, I always vote republican and believe in God and still would rank Huckabee a lot higher. :boggled:
Upchurch
1st February 2008, 06:29 AM
Do you still hate her now? Of course you do.
Which "her"? Coulter or Clinton?
Clinton: I didn't hate her before. I don't hate her now. I wasn't planning on voting for her in the primary and this certainly isn't a ringing endorsement.
Coulter: I thought she was vile before. I think she's vile now. Why should her endorsing a candidate I don't plan to vote for change that?
Policenaut
1st February 2008, 06:46 AM
Man there's some serious McCain hate coming out recently.
Upchurch
1st February 2008, 06:57 AM
Man there's some serious McCain hate coming out recently.
a lot of Huckabee hate from the GOP, too. What's up with that?
hammegk
1st February 2008, 07:01 AM
a lot of Huckabee hate from the GOP, too. What's up with that?
His continuing presence as a candidate draws voters who otherwise would be expected to prefer Romney rather than McCain.
Snide
1st February 2008, 07:02 AM
Which "her"? Coulter or Clinton?
Clinton: I didn't hate her before. I don't hate her now. I wasn't planning on voting for her in the primary and this certainly isn't a ringing endorsement.
Coulter: I thought she was vile before. I think she's vile now. Why should her endorsing a candidate I don't plan to vote for change that?Agreed. Painter's critical thought patterns are exposed again.
JoeEllison
1st February 2008, 07:22 AM
a lot of Huckabee hate from the GOP, too. What's up with that?
Huckabee actually thinks Christians should be decent people... you can see how that would piss off the GOP.
headscratcher4
1st February 2008, 07:38 AM
a lot of Huckabee hate from the GOP, too. What's up with that?
Taxes, social spending on education and health moderate toleration of illegal aliens. Besides the old-gaurd GOP want to use the religious right not be used by them...Huck threatens to turn the tables. Its great fun.
Drudgewire
1st February 2008, 07:43 AM
You almost get the feeling Ann's working the South Park gimmick where the Klan takes the opposite side of an issue just to draw support away from it because they're so hated. :p
Polaris
1st February 2008, 07:46 AM
Well I figure with her name and my name together, everyone will run in here to beat me up.
Ann will vote for Hillary Clinton;
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/39834.html
Do you still hate her now? Of course you do.
Isn't this something like the political version of crossing the streams? Does this mean that on election day both of those swines will suddenly explode, or burst into flames and melt? (Or by way of catching fire, turn on the sprinklers which cause them to melt?)
Moon-Spinner
1st February 2008, 08:37 AM
My ears are burning...
My eyes are bleeding...
Yes, this was a shock to hear, but it gets me to thinking more closely why Ann Coulter takes this position.
I know a lot of Liberals that are campaigning against Hillary because they feel she's too conservative. I know a lot of people that dislike Hillary because they feel she might be too strong of a leader, they really don't like her "Take Charge" attitude (but isn't this what a leader is suppose to do?). The Republicans call Hillary a Liberal, and the Democrats think she's too conservative. The things that draw the most rancor toward Hillary from the Left are the things that Ann Coulter wants in a Leader.
Ann Coulter explains some of the reasons why she would vote for Hillary Clinton over John McCain.
Now I'm thinking: Why shouldn't Ann Coulter like Hillary? It's still a "Alice In Wonderland Turnabout" shock, but not as surprising as it sounded at first...
headscratcher4
1st February 2008, 09:00 AM
Just so I know....what has Hillary ever been in charge of prior to her being a Senator? Oh, her take charge position in the early healthcare debate where her arrogance and her inability to compromise, admit mistakes or to listen to stakeholders outside of her circle set back expanded access of poor and working class people to healthcare for 20 years? Maybe it was the terrific, deft way she managed the WH Travel Office issue?
I may vote for her...if for no other reason than McCain promises endless war ... but her "experience" is a chimera. Can you imagine what Democrats -- particularly femnists -- might say were Larua Bush to claim "experience" as a result of being married to GWB?
Hillary's been a decent Senator. She may be right on many of the issues I care about. I am not scared of her as President (so much as scared of Bill hanging around the WH with nothing to do), but I don't buy her "experience" argument...and besides, no matter how she tries to play it, she was wrong on the war and on Iran and she was too political (i.e. worried about not seeming "tough" enough) to stand against GWB.
Rant over.
Sefarst
1st February 2008, 09:08 AM
John McCain is learning that, almost as important as having the right friends, it is important to have the right enemies. This will be a huge asset to him in the general election, the fact that the extreme right wingers swore him off as too moderate, good for winning over independents and liberals.
Puppycow
2nd February 2008, 05:21 AM
John McCain is learning that, almost as important as having the right friends, it is important to have the right enemies. This will be a huge asset to him in the general election, the fact that the extreme right wingers swore him off as too moderate, good for winning over independents and liberals.
What you said.
Coulter is a troll, and I don't take what she says at face value. She could just be trying to insert a poison pill. Best just to ignore her.
Gnu World Order
2nd February 2008, 11:57 AM
I never believed anything Coulter said before, and I don't believe her now.
I put Ann Coulter on IGNORE a long time ago.
corplinx
2nd February 2008, 11:58 AM
I saw Ann on TV a few weeks back. She had dark 1.5 inch brown roots in her hair. McCain has driven her to let herself go.
fuelair
2nd February 2008, 12:32 PM
I am going to rank the remaining five candidates in order from least to most evil.
Obama
Huckabee
McCain
Romney
Clinton
Coulter's endorsement is surprising... but the surprise comes from her honesty, not her choice.
That second least evil would be the one who wants to change the Constitution to reflect Baptist Xtian Values. Are you a Baptist or fundie of some kind? (He is baptist and said (X) tian so I don't think the interpretation is misleading or inaccurate.)
Tsukasa Buddha
2nd February 2008, 12:34 PM
I think it is more of an anti-endorsement against McCain.
But maybe it is the truth, I know some people who think she is really a satirical genius.
ConspiRaider
2nd February 2008, 12:41 PM
Children:
NOW do you understand the true and deep meaninglessnesses of endorsements by highly visible people such as Coulter? And I recognize the risk in using "Coulter" and "people" in the same sentence - but that's another rant for another time.
Screw all Big People endorsements! The ONLY endorsement that matters is YOURS - when you git on out there to the voting booth and "speak" your piece. Even if you like NO candidate - tell them that. Write somebody in.
Tsukasa Buddha
2nd February 2008, 12:50 PM
Children:
NOW do you understand the true and deep meaninglessnesses of endorsements by highly visible people such as Coulter? And I recognize the risk in using "Coulter" and "people" in the same sentence - but that's another rant for another time.
Screw all Big People endorsements! The ONLY endorsement that matters is YOURS - when you git on out there to the voting booth and "speak" your piece. Even if you like NO candidate - tell them that. Write somebody in.
You're only saying that because your candidate didn't get the big endorcements this week :p .
mrbaracuda
2nd February 2008, 12:57 PM
You're only saying that because your candidate didn't get the big endorcements this week :p .
Paul? Sorry if I'm out of the loop on Conspi, haha. :p
yaaarrrgg
2nd February 2008, 01:10 PM
I don't see why she hates McCain ... I think she's just trying to stir up her own ratings. She's really more an entertainer than a journalist.
Brainster
2nd February 2008, 03:13 PM
Ann loves to stir up trouble. This time she's doing her best imitation of a Victorian woman, flinging herself off a cliff rather than succumb to the advances of that dastardly John McCain.
It's one of those rare endorsements that probably hurts Coulter and Clinton more than it does McCain. A couple conservative bloggers have remarked that if Ann's against him, they're more inclined to be for him.
mrbaracuda
2nd February 2008, 04:13 PM
Ann loves to stir up trouble. This time she's doing her best imitation of a Victorian woman, flinging herself off a cliff rather than succumb to the advances of that dastardly John McCain.
It's one of those rare endorsements that probably hurts Coulter and Clinton more than it does McCain. A couple conservative bloggers have remarked that if Ann's against him, they're more inclined to be for him.
Maybe she has a secret crush on him and this is her plan. That sexy POW! :eek:
The Painter
2nd February 2008, 04:39 PM
Which "her"? Coulter or Clinton?
Oh that's simple. Read the title.
I thought she made some valid arguments. Given the scenario that she mentions I would probably go third party. Just as I did in the last election.
Dr Adequate
2nd February 2008, 05:19 PM
A third party? I'm just trying to imagine who could possibly cater to your tastes.
Perhaps you can find some candidate who will have the courage to stand up to Big Brother and tell you that what the government takes from you personally in taxes is spent exclusively for your personal benefit. Comb the madhouses 'til you find your man.
He could have some slogan along the lines of "TAXATION INVOLVES EVERYONE KEEPING EXACTLY WHAT WAS THEIRS TO START WITH". Or maybe "IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH".
Iamme
2nd February 2008, 06:16 PM
Just who *IS* Ann Coulter? (And does she have a sister who reads the news named Pam Coulter?) What are her credentials? Where did she come from?
Yes, I know who she is in the sense that I listen to her know-it-all babble on Shawn Hannity and Fox News. But what I mean is...well, how did she gain this prominence she now has?
fuelair
2nd February 2008, 07:07 PM
A third party? I'm just trying to imagine who could possibly cater to your tastes.
Perhaps you can find some candidate who will have the courage to stand up to Big Brother and tell you that what the government takes from you personally in taxes is spent exclusively for your personal benefit. Comb the madhouses 'til you find your man.
He could have some slogan along the lines of "TAXATION INVOLVES EVERYONE KEEPING EXACTLY WHAT WAS THEIRS TO START WITH". Or maybe "IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH".
Or perhaps even "Arbeit macht Frei!"
corplinx
2nd February 2008, 08:03 PM
Yes, I know who she is in the sense that I listen to her know-it-all babble on Shawn Hannity and Fox News. But what I mean is...well, how did she gain this prominence she now has?
She kept getting fired by conservative websites until she finally made her way down to being a guest on FoxNews. I made a thread about her once but I can't find it with search.
rdaneel
2nd February 2008, 08:54 PM
I was just reading the comments to this story on HuffPo (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/01/ann-coulter-ill-campaig_n_84435.html), and one comment stood out that I loved:
"Isn't ONE instigative, loud-mouthed dude campaigning on Hillary's behalf enough?"
:D Pith award worthy if it had been posted here.
The Painter
3rd February 2008, 04:42 AM
Or perhaps even "Arbeit macht Frei!"
I was wondering which one of the usual suspects would be the first to call me a Nazi.
Godwin’s Law = you lose
fuelair
3rd February 2008, 09:06 AM
I was wondering which one of the usual suspects would be the first to call me a Nazi.
Godwin’s Law = you lose
Actually, I was refering to the candidate as suggested by Dr. A. And, for those whose language/quote level is lower than others, the quote initiated with the bibble (the truth shall/will make you free!). But, if you wish to look for personal insult I am sure you can find one anywhere.:)
pgwenthold
3rd February 2008, 11:01 AM
Oh I am not too surprised, at least in why republicans hate McCain. Coulter said it herself: McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy
The hardcore right can't stand the fact that a republican could even talk to Russ Feingold or Ted Kennedy, much less sponsor legislation with them.
Anyone who can work with Russ Feingold is not near conservative enough for the republicans.
Thing 2: Huckabee
Huckabee's a funny guy, and it is pretty clear why the right is leary. He is the epitome of what the right has been about for the past 6 years. Huckabee is using wedge issues (pandering to the religious) to peddle policy that is way too populist for them. He's basically the living illustration of using gay marriage to get repubicans elected knowing that they never could do so based on their actual governance. So Huckabee is playing their game: use rightwing wedge issues to peddle more leftist programs. He is actually a fairly reasonable application of REAL christian values, including compassion. Unfortunately, compassion is a liberal quality. He is trying to get his compassionate side ride the coattails of his religious pandering. The hardcore rightwingers can see right through - they invented the practice!
corplinx
3rd February 2008, 12:15 PM
Oh I am not too surprised, at least in why republicans hate McCain. Coulter said it herself: McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy
The hardcore right can't stand the fact that a republican could even talk to Russ Feingold or Ted Kennedy, much less sponsor legislation with them.
I posted about this very thinking on another forum where I am thinking of switching to exclusively:
http://skepticalcommunity.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=352323#352323
The Painter
3rd February 2008, 02:25 PM
Actually, I was refering to the candidate as suggested by Dr. A. And, for those whose language/quote level is lower than others, the quote initiated with the bibble (the truth shall/will make you free!). But, if you wish to look for personal insult I am sure you can find one anywhere.:)
Nice try but NO. You know exactly where that slogan was used. You can't backpedal your way out of this one. Funny you mention the truth while you are lying.
fuelair
3rd February 2008, 06:54 PM
Nice try but NO. You know exactly where that slogan was used. You can't backpedal your way out of this one. Funny you mention the truth while you are lying.
Of course I know the quote source - why do you think I made the comment about quotes/sources. I also tend to equate much of the conservative republican beliefs with Fascism and therefore responded to Dr. A's post (not yours. And not to put too fine a point on it, I have no interest in you or what you choose to believe. You are not silly enough to bother with (wrong is one thing, silly is fun to play with).:)
It was from John (Book of)(Bibble) and in the German form was used over at least one of the Concentration camps (just in case).
thaiboxerken
3rd February 2008, 07:18 PM
Hitler endorsed Christianity, yet Christians still hate him.
thaiboxerken
3rd February 2008, 07:20 PM
Geez, I always vote republican and believe in God and still would rank Huckabee a lot higher. :boggled:
This only shows how silly you are.
Solitaire
3rd February 2008, 07:27 PM
Oh that's simple. Read the title.
I thought she made some valid arguments. Given the scenario that she mentions I would probably go third party. Just as I did in the last election.
How about the Root? (http://www.rootforamerica.com/blog/)
He's angry with everybody - man, nature, even god.
The Painter
3rd February 2008, 07:36 PM
Of course I know the quote source - why do you think I made the comment about quotes/sources. I also tend to equate much of the conservative republican beliefs with Fascism and therefore responded to Dr. A's post (not yours. And not to put too fine a point on it, I have no interest in you or what you choose to believe. You are not silly enough to bother with (wrong is one thing, silly is fun to play with).:)
It was from John (Book of)(Bibble) and in the German form was used over at least one of the Concentration camps (just in case).
You are a disingenuous person, and a liar, but even a little twerp like you can't bother me now. THE GIANTS WIN
varwoche
4th February 2008, 03:26 PM
Coulter's endorsement is surprising... but the surprise comes from her honesty, not her choice. This comment has been festering in the nether regions of my brain and it finally occurs to me why this isn't a case of Coulter being honest. (imo of course)
McCain far better represents Coulter's interests than does Clinton on virtually every major policy topic. It's not even close.
This is just an another example of infighting often being uglier than outfighting, and how people are often unable to transcend petty-minded concerns and big egos. Not to mention, a Clinton presidency would be better for Coulter professionally.
dudalb
4th February 2008, 04:04 PM
Wow, one right-wing woman voting for another right-wing woman... what a shock!
Joe Ellison seems to have a unusual defination of Right Wing.
I guess anybody to the right of Hugo Chavez is a Right Winger.
dudalb
4th February 2008, 04:07 PM
Huckabee actually thinks Christians should be decent people... you can see how that would piss off the GOP.
Consdiering Ellison's politics, I got a feeling him and Coulter are doing the same thing....supporting who they think will be the weakest opponent in the party they oppose.
steverino
4th February 2008, 04:22 PM
I think that here Ann Coulter is playing a reverse psychology mind game. "McCain is sooo out of the conservative loop that even Hillary is more conservative, so you conservatives out there-Don't even flirt with the idea of voting McCain. You think Hillary's bad. He is worse."
It is a way of drumming up Romney support just before Super Pooper Tuesday.
Anyway, that is what I think her MO is here.
Miss Whiplash
4th February 2008, 04:23 PM
Ann Coulter...ahh, the memories!
L Word night at a south Florida lez bar...
Her hopelessly eager eyes at the end of the bar...
Her bitter tears as we ignored her...
Her sagging knees.....
BPSCG
5th February 2008, 05:39 PM
Children:
NOW do you understand the true and deep meaninglessnesses of endorsements by highly visible people such as Coulter? CR speaks truthiness. Saw The Daily Show last night and John Stewart had some reporter from Time magazine who Ted and Caroline Kennedy had deigned to permit to cover their announcement that they were endorsing Obama. After about three minutes, I realized that Obama is going to be the next President of the United States. It was obvious by watching this reporter (Tumulty was her last name - don't remember the first) sitting there gushing like a little schoolgirl over how wonderful it was to be able to be there when The Hero of Chappaquiddick and his niece made their announcement that Obama was the True and Rightful Heir to the Crown of Camelot. And Stewart and the audience were just eating it up. I didn't watch the interview to the end, because I didn't want to see the stain where Tumulty had been sitting. Now millions of idiots who think Kennedy was one of the five greatest president who ever lived, because they can only name four and one of them is Bush and another is Clinton, will vote for Obama, because he's just like Kennedy.
Celebrity endorsements. Yeesh.
steverino
5th February 2008, 05:52 PM
...The Hero of Chappaquiddick and his niece made their announcement that Obama was the True and Rightful Heir to the Crown of Camelot.
WTF?
I seldom disagree with you, Beeps, but your above post was a stinker. Last time I checked, it's a free country and anyone can endorse anyone. The Kennedy thing was half about kicking Hillary in the nuts, and half about wanting some credit for Obama's win, if he does pull it off. And to link Ted's niece with the Chappaquiddick ordeal seems a cheap shot to me, considering she lost a father and brother.
BPSCG
5th February 2008, 05:55 PM
I was just reading the comments to this story on HuffPo (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/01/ann-coulter-ill-campaig_n_84435.html), and one comment stood out that I loved:
"Isn't ONE instigative, loud-mouthed dude campaigning on Hillary's behalf enough?"
:D Pith award worthy if it had been posted here.I was channel-surfing the other night and saw her on Hannity and Colmes when she said if McCain was nominated, she would not only vote for Clinton, "I'd campaign for her!"
Colmes just leaned back in his chair, put his hands behind his head, and said, "My work here is done..." :)
LostAngeles
5th February 2008, 05:57 PM
Well I figure with her name and my name together, everyone will run in here to beat me up.
Ann will vote for Hillary Clinton;
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/39834.html
Do you still hate her now? Of course you do.
Yes, because she's a shrill, hateful person. Ann Coulter gets money and attention for loudly announcing how perfectly ok she is with members of certain groups getting hurt. These groups are not groups such as, "pedophiles," "baby killers," no, they're, "liberal," "Muslim," or whoever she has a hate-on for that day.
In other news: NOW is all kinds of stupid for saying Kennedy has betrayed women by endorsing Obama over Hilary. If the chick who ran Concerned Women for America was running, I wouldn't vote for her just because she has flaps.
BPSCG
5th February 2008, 06:14 PM
WTF?
I seldom disagree with you, Beeps, but your above post was a stinker. Last time I checked, it's a free country and anyone can endorse anyone. That wasn't the point. I was riffing on ConspiRaider's objection that celebrity endorsements are aimed at stupid, ignorant people. Of what earthly significance is Caroline Kennedy's endorsement of Obama? When she says he's the rightful heir of her sainted, martyred father, she's saying more than she knows; she was five years old when he died and likely has at best, only a dim memory of him. She certainly knows no more about his politics than any other student of American history. Why should everyone go dewy-eyed because she likes Obama?
And as for her drunk, gluttonous, lecherous, woman-killing uncle, I would think his endorsement would strike people as being as worthy as an endorsement from someone on your local sex offenders' watch list.
Honestly, is there a single person here who's going to vote for or against Clinton because Coulter prefers her to McCain? I like Ann Coulter (particularly when she makes the lefties go into paroxysms of incoherent fury), but I'll be dead three days before I vote for Clinton (hmmm, that's actually how the Dems get a lot of votes to begin with, come to think of it...).
Is anyone here going to vote for or against Obama because Caroline Kennedy says he reminds her of her father?
What CR said - use your own goddam heads.
mrbaracuda
5th February 2008, 08:05 PM
I was channel-surfing the other night and saw her on Hannity and Colmes when she said if McCain was nominated, she would not only vote for Clinton, "I'd campaign for her!"
Colmes just leaned back in his chair, put his hands behind his head, and said, "My work here is done..." :)
Haha, that Colmes. :p
steverino
6th February 2008, 09:19 AM
That wasn't the point. I was riffing on ConspiRaider's objection that celebrity endorsements are aimed at stupid, ignorant people. Of what earthly significance is Caroline Kennedy's endorsement of Obama? When she says he's the rightful heir of her sainted, martyred father, she's saying more than she knows; she was five years old when he died and likely has at best, only a dim memory of him. She certainly knows no more about his politics than any other student of American history. Why should everyone go dewy-eyed because she likes Obama?
And as for her drunk, gluttonous, lecherous, woman-killing uncle, I would think his endorsement would strike people as being as worthy as an endorsement from someone on your local sex offenders' watch list.
Honestly, is there a single person here who's going to vote for or against Clinton because Coulter prefers her to McCain? I like Ann Coulter (particularly when she makes the lefties go into paroxysms of incoherent fury), but I'll be dead three days before I vote for Clinton (hmmm, that's actually how the Dems get a lot of votes to begin with, come to think of it...).
Is anyone here going to vote for or against Obama because Caroline Kennedy says he reminds her of her father?
What CR said - use your own goddam heads.
Thanks for clarifying, Beeps. I admit I slightly missed your point. Still, just because you and I and others see Senator Ted for the scum he is, he does get voted in by someone every time, and those "someones" are Dems., and numerous. And I think that, in this case, when the Oprah's and Kennedy's endorse Obama, they are really saying "Hey Dems, don't get sucked in by Hillary just because she is the front-runner, and presumes she will win. These anti-Hillary endorsements are effective in getting the sheeple to take a second look at Obama.
As for Caroline, your comment intrigues me. She was a child when her father died, so you are saying that she has no added insight to JFK than anyone else, or at least, any other historian, assuming she is one. Caroline was 36 when her mother died. and 47 when Pierre Salinger died, etc. I bet over the years she has accumulated one hell of a rolodex. Access, man, access.
BPSCG
6th February 2008, 09:35 AM
As for Caroline, your comment intrigues me. She was a child when her father died, so you are saying that she has no added insight to JFK than anyone else, or at least, any other historian, assuming she is one. Caroline was 36 when her mother died. and 47 when Pierre Salinger died, etc. I bet over the years she has accumulated one hell of a rolodex. Access, man, access.Oh, I'm sure her mother told her lots of wonderful things about her daddy. And some of them might even have been true.
"Vote for Obama because he reminds me of the kind of guy my mother says my sainted, martyred father was."
Even Coulter's case for voting for HRC over McCain is more compelling.
Bill Thompson
6th February 2008, 09:40 AM
Well I figure with her name and my name together, everyone will run in here to beat me up.
Ann will vote for Hillary Clinton;
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/39834.html
Do you still hate her now? Of course you do.
An article in Newsweek says that there is no logic in politics.
LostAngeles
6th February 2008, 09:53 AM
Thanks for clarifying, Beeps. I admit I slightly missed your point. Still, just because you and I and others see Senator Ted for the scum he is, he does get voted in by someone every time, and those "someones" are Dems., and numerous. And I think that, in this case, when the Oprah's and Kennedy's endorse Obama, they are really saying "Hey Dems, don't get sucked in by Hillary just because she is the front-runner, and presumes she will win. These anti-Hillary endorsements are effective in getting the sheeple to take a second look at Obama.
As for Caroline, your comment intrigues me. She was a child when her father died, so you are saying that she has no added insight to JFK than anyone else, or at least, any other historian, assuming she is one. Caroline was 36 when her mother died. and 47 when Pierre Salinger died, etc. I bet over the years she has accumulated one hell of a rolodex. Access, man, access.
Hi!
I'm an independent voter, formerly of MA who voted for Kennedy in 2000. Here's why:
Kennedy does his job well and so Chappaquiddick gets overlooked.
You would think that the GOP or a third party could successfully run against him at least on that:
1970 Massachusetts United States Senatorial Election
Ted Kennedy (D) (inc.) 61.2%
Josiah A. Spaulding (R) 37%
Doesn't come close until 1994 with Romney and in 2000, he had 73% of the vote.
So we vote in a drunk who drove off a road 39 years ago, killed a woman and walked away with a suspended sentence because he does his job in the Senate and the GOP can't fight that.
MA isn't that liberal, people. It's not all Cambridge doing this. There's some pockets of dark red there.
Puppycow
8th February 2008, 12:26 AM
For those who can't resist rubbernecking at a train wreck (http://anncoulter.com/cgi-local/printer_friendly.cgi?article=233) :D
In 2004, McCain criticized the federal marriage amendment, saying, it was "antithetical in every way to the core philosophy of Republicans." Really? Preventing the redefinition of a 10,000-year-old institution -- marriage, that is, not John McCain -- is part of the core philosophy of being a Republican? I had no idea.
BTW, is that "10,000-year-old" line an admission that the Bible isn't exactly true (i.e., the Earth is older than about 6000 years)?
I usually don't pay any attention at all to Ann Coulter, so I don't know if this is a departure for her or not.
BPSCG
8th February 2008, 06:02 AM
For those who can't resist rubbernecking at a train wreck (http://anncoulter.com/cgi-local/printer_friendly.cgi?article=233) :D
BTW, is that "10,000-year-old" line an admission that the Bible isn't exactly true (i.e., the Earth is older than about 6000 years)?
I usually don't pay any attention at all to Ann Coulter, so I don't know if this is a departure for her or not.Not one of Coulter's stronger columns, frankly.
She repeatedly says that McCain thought Sam Alito was "too conservative." But he voted for Alito.
The last two paragraphs are weak:If Hillary is elected president, we'll have a four-year disaster, with Republicans ferociously opposing her, followed by Republicans zooming back into power, as we did in 1980 and 1994, and 2000. (I also predict more Oval Office incidents with female interns.)
If McCain is elected president, we'll have a four-year disaster, with the Republicans in Congress co-opted by "our" president, followed by 30 years of Democratic rule. I've never been impressed by the strategy of "Let our opponents win, and when they screw up, we'll be even stronger."
In any case, all the other complaining aside, McCain is right on national security, and HRC is wrong, and that trumps everything.
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