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OldTigerCub
2nd February 2008, 03:26 PM
Prompted by a post on 911blogger (http://www.911blogger.com/node/13676), a large number of posts promoting David Ray Griffin's book, "Debunking 9-11 Debunking" have appeared on Bill Moyers' Journal (http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2008/01/power_reading.html)page at PBS.org. Moyers posed the question,
"What do you think?
Do you agree that you can tell a lot about a person from what he or she reads?
Were you surprised by what the candidates picked?
What one book do you want your next president to read?
(bolding mine)

The call to spam Moyers comes from poster PhoenixRising:
This week on Bill Moyers Journal, Bill reported on the answers by the democratic candidates about what book, other than the Bible, they would take to the White House.

And now Bill wants to know what book we would take. We can post responses on his blog. And he will report the answers next week on his show.

To make a greater impact, one that they theoretically cannot ignore, let's PLEASE all choose the same book to give it an extremely high rating.

I'm just going to pick one, because it's not the specific book that is important (in this scenario), it's that we all choose the same one! (and that it is about 9/11 Truth, and have "9/11" in the title)

So let's use: "Debunking 9/11 Debunking" by David Ray Griffin

Why any president would waste their time reading any book by David Ray Griffin is beyond me, especially a book written by a theologian which uses faulty logic and bad science to discredit the findings of engineers and forensic investigators regarding the events of 9-11. The fact that so many posts appear citing the Griffin book suggests to me that a small number of people using a large number of aliases are spending a very busy afternoon desperately spreading "teh twoof".

Walter Ego
2nd February 2008, 04:07 PM
Prompted by a post on 911blogger (http://www.911blogger.com/node/13676), a large number of posts promoting David Ray Griffin's book, "Debunking 9-11 Debunking" have appeared on Bill Moyers' Journal (http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2008/01/power_reading.html)page at PBS.org. Moyers posed the question,

(bolding mine)

The call to spam Moyers comes from poster PhoenixRising:


Why any president would waste their time reading any book by David Ray Griffin is beyond me, especially a book written by a theologian which uses faulty logic and bad science to discredit the findings of engineers and forensic investigators regarding the events of 9-11. The fact that so many posts appear citing the Griffin book suggests to me that a small number of people using a large number of aliases are spending a very busy afternoon desperately spreading "teh twoof".

Doesn't take much to launch the flying monkeys, does it? The truther spam is coming thick and heavy on the Moyers' site. I made a post that hasn’t gone up yet. (The posts are top loaded with the newest posts first.) This is just the sort of thing that makes the truthers so popular with the undecided masses.

OldTigerCub
2nd February 2008, 04:18 PM
Doesn't take much to launch the flying monkeys, does it? The truther spam is coming thick and heavy on the Moyers' site. I made a post that hasn’t gone up yet. (The posts are top loaded with the newest posts first.) This is just the sort of thing that makes the truthers so popular with the undecided masses.

Yup! Just what every mainstream journalist wants to do: wade through hundreds of repetitions of the same book recommendation by a handful of twooftards with multiple identities and trying to pick the legitimate suggestions out of that mess.

VespaGuy
2nd February 2008, 09:13 PM
As I am looking, the first posters rome across that are recommending Griffin's book are named "Amy", "Christy", "Susan", and "Jaden". There's a dead-giveaway that the truthers are using fake names... everyone knows that female troothers don't exist!

Good Lt
3rd February 2008, 12:03 AM
It's doesn't matter.

Nobody watches Bill Moyers, so it doesn't do them any good anyway.

OldTigerCub
3rd February 2008, 12:11 AM
As I am looking, the first posters rome across that are recommending Griffin's book are named "Amy", "Christy", "Susan", and "Jaden". There's a dead-giveaway that the truthers are using fake names... everyone knows that female troothers don't exist!

They made one mistake....4 girls' names! There are only 3 female twoofers!
pwnnd!11!!!!111!!!
:p

OldTigerCub
3rd February 2008, 12:12 AM
It's doesn't matter.

Nobody watches Bill Moyers, so it doesn't do them any good anyway.

Shhhhhhhh!!!:cool:
(btw: I'm not even going to ask about the new avatar.....LOL)

DGM
8th February 2008, 08:08 PM
The "twoofers" are going to be mad. I caught the end of the Bill Moyer show and he said.

There was a organized effort to promote one book that we decided to exclude

That's it, no mention of the name of the book, nothing. Just another annoying "twoofer" failure.

T.A.M.
8th February 2008, 08:14 PM
Awesome....

and now the whines of censorship!!

TAM:)

OldTigerCub
8th February 2008, 08:24 PM
The "twoofers" are going to be mad. I caught the end of the Bill Moyer show and he said.



That's it, no mention of the name of the book, nothing. Just another annoying "twoofer" failure.
Another twoofer epic failure!:p
So much for David Ray Griffin being a relevant author!
:dl:

boloboffin
8th February 2008, 08:27 PM
Aw. Bill Moyers kicked David Ray to the curb.

Walter Ego
8th February 2008, 09:07 PM
The "twoofers" are going to be mad. I caught the end of the Bill Moyer show and he said.



That's it, no mention of the name of the book, nothing. Just another annoying "twoofer" failure.


Tee, hee. Thanks for the heads up. Moyers was on when I read this and I was able to tape the last segment of the show. I'm going to make a little video about this latest truther debacle. I'll have it up sometime tomorrow.

OldTigerCub
8th February 2008, 09:20 PM
Tee, hee. Thanks for the heads up. Moyers was on when I read this and I was able to tape the last segment of the show. I'm going to make a little video about this latest truther debacle. I'll have it up sometime tomorrow.

:D:D:D

Piggy
8th February 2008, 09:28 PM
everyone knows that female troothers don't exist!

There is one female troother. They call her Truthette.

OldTigerCub
9th February 2008, 12:03 AM
There is one female troother. They call her Truthette.

OMG!:eek:
You're right!
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/1975747ad4f86240c9.jpg

Walter Ego
9th February 2008, 07:17 PM
Tee, hee. Thanks for the heads up. Moyers was on when I read this and I was able to tape the last segment of the show. I'm going to make a little video about this latest truther debacle. I'll have it up sometime tomorrow.


**bump**

I completed the video and it can be seen on this (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=105939)thread.

Father Dagon
9th February 2008, 07:22 PM
OMG!:eek:
You're right!
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/1975747ad4f86240c9.jpgAnd just like the Smurfette, she was created in order to sow dissent.

pomeroo
9th February 2008, 07:38 PM
I posted a recommendation of Ryan Mackey's whitepaper. The nuts have to be answered--everywhere and always!

OldTigerCub
9th February 2008, 08:17 PM
**bump**

I completed the video and it can be seen on this (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=105939)thread.

Nice vid, Walter. I commented on it in the other thread. :D

I tried to post a link to Ryan Mackey's paper at the Bill Moyers site, but I must have gotten the hidden letters wrong the first time. It never showed up. I posted again recommending a book by JFK and a highlighted sentence pointing out that he was being spammed by twoofers, though I am sure it didn't take my comment to make them notice that.:p

pomeroo
10th February 2008, 02:34 AM
I note that my recommendation has been removed.

beachnut
10th February 2008, 03:22 AM
**bump**

I completed the video and it can be seen on this (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=105939)thread.
That was good.

Walter Ego
27th February 2008, 02:46 PM
An inane but typical truther reply to the Moyers' debacle. Lots of lying from the truthers, too. Seems like the 9/11 Blogger 'Call To Action' was not an organized campaign to spam the Moyers' site. Moyers was ’told’ by the PBS Overlords to characterize it that way. Yeah, sure, truthers.


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There are two videos both choc full of lies. Seems like every single truth spammer (including sock puppets?) was a 'subscriber' to PBS!

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LashL
27th February 2008, 10:51 PM
Thanks for the follow-up, Walter Ego. Nicely done. :)

Praktik
1st March 2008, 08:44 AM
I posted a recommendation of Ryan Mackey's whitepaper. The nuts have to be answered--everywhere and always!

Ya i took the time to write in via the feedback to recommend the paper.

Would be nice to see a Moyers' spot on this, I recommended Michael Barkun as an interview candidate given his work on conspiracy theories and American cultural history. Figured he could give the kind of "wide angle" on this that Moyers would be looking for, instead of a point by point thing on the events of the day...