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pomeroo
6th February 2008, 05:12 PM
A well-known anti-Semite and Pentagon loon sent me this. It explains very well why I refer, rather more seriously than not, to fantasists as belonging to an evil movement:


"How Did Israeli Spy Software Get Onto Critical FAA Computers?"


http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=118250


READ THIS IF YOU VOTE OR FLY
Posted By: ChristopherBollyn
Date: Tuesday, 5 February 2008, 10:02 a.m.

In Response to "Understanding How a 'Two-Way Data Pipe' Hijacked the 9-11 Aircraft and is used to Steal Our Elections" by Christopher Bollyn

"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;
the point is to discover them."
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

"…the mass of the people don't really notice anything,
but just repeat whatever their rulers tell them."
- Protagoras by Plato (427-347 BC)

When I discovered the Israeli company documents showing that Peter Goelz, the former managing director of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), and Monte Belger, the Acting Deputy Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), were connected to a suspicious Israeli company headed by a certain Ehud "Udi" Mendelson, I knew I had found a crucial piece of the 9-11 puzzle.

See:

"How Did Israeli Spy Software Get Onto Critical FAA Computers?" by Christopher Bollyn, January 28, 2008
http://www.bollyn.com/index/?id=10797 (http://www.bollyn.com/index/?id=10797)


This was a significant discovery and I made sure I saved backup copies of the incriminating documents. I knew that as soon as I brought any attention to them, there was a very good chance they would quickly disappear. This is exactly what happened.

What do these hasty deletions say about Messrs Belger and Goelz? They were the only people I had contacted prior to the deletions. They are clearly in a panic and trying to hide the evidence of their involvement with this Israeli and his company that specializes in remotely controlling aircraft. But, why are they trying to hide this relationship? Is there something that needs to be hidden?

Like the evidence from 9-11, the incriminating pages have been deleted from the online documents. Here, however, are the complete documents, which I saved. If you fly airplanes or simply fly on them, you should have a look at this material:
The first document is Ehud ("Udi") Mendelson's U.S. Aviation Technology LLC document entitled "Integrated Aircraft Early Warning System."

This document lists the former deputy administrator of the FAA, Monte Belger, and the former managing director of the NTSB, Peter Goelz, as Vice Presidents of the Israeli-run firm specializing in accessing the computer system of an aircraft and remotely controlling the plane through a "robust two-way data pipe":
http://www.bollyn.info/pdf/us.aviation.pdf (http://www.bollyn.info/pdf/us.aviation.pdf)

The pages numbered 44-53 (in the document) from the "Key Personal" [sic] section clearly show Belger and Goelz as Vice Presidents of the company.
The second document is Mendelson's presentation entitled "Technology Innovations – Aircraft Security & Safety Enhancement."

This document explains the Israeli's concept and design of his "robust two-way data pipe" between an aircraft and a ground "pilot."
http://bollyn.info/pdf/us.aviation.tech.pres.pdf (http://bollyn.info/pdf/us.aviation.tech.pres.pdf)

These documents are documentary proof of a very suspicious long-term relationship between former high-level officials in the federal aviation agencies and an extremely dodgy Israeli company specializing in accessing aircraft computer systems -- while in flight.




Do not post articles in their entirety.

Brainache
6th February 2008, 05:49 PM
This is the guy who is on the run after skipping bail on an assault charge isn't he? Why is he still writing this rubbish and not living like a hermit somewhere?

T.A.M.
6th February 2008, 06:00 PM
He is the true definition of a coward. He talks some big talk, but then when confronted by "da Law" he tucks his tail between his legs and runs...

The truth movement deserves him, and he them.

TAM:)

njslim
6th February 2008, 08:30 PM
Some idiot is posting this garbage over at ABOVE TOP SECRET. The stupider the stuff,
the faster it gets spammed all over the internet....

bje
6th February 2008, 09:09 PM
Let's dissect this a little. Bollyn claims:

"Like the evidence from 9-11, the incriminating pages have been deleted from the online documents. Here, however, are the complete documents, which I saved. If you fly airplanes or simply fly on them, you should have a look at this material:
The first document is Ehud ("Udi") Mendelson's U.S. Aviation Technology LLC document entitled "Integrated Aircraft Early Warning System."Yawn...

What is available online tonight are the following:

USPTO Patent Application #: 20050151025
Patent Title: Integrated aircraft early warning system, method for analyzing early warning data, and method for providing early warnings
Patent Abstract: Methods and system for recording data from an aircraft and alerting with a wireless network are disclosed. The methods contain receiving signals containing data from a plurality of aircraft, determining normal thresholds for the data, monitoring and analyzing the data, and generating an alert signal if the data is beyond the thresholds with a ground based computer terminal in real time. The system includes a ground computer and other mechanisms for implementing the disclosed method.
http://tinyurl.com/2xlg3yA quick search of Patent Office applications, available publicly, gives us this:
http://tinyurl.com/3cbqnx

A fully public patent application.

We note that the patent application was filed March 30, 2004. We also note that the confidential business plan published by Bollyn is a PDF created on 03/27/2003 at 12:54:24 am and modified (by guess who?) on 01/29/2008 at 11:25:19 am.

So the confidential document was created a year before the patent application was filed. (It could also be 2004 if the computer date was wrong and still apply.) Would anyone reveal a potentially patentable system before filing a patent other than to prospective investors?

Would the document ever have been published online to begin with? Highly doubtful before the patent application had been filed. But since the patent application is public information, even if it were published after the application, it would have been done intentionally or without concern. Hence Bollyn's claim that it was "deleted" online to hide something is laughable. But it does raise a question on how Bollyn obtained the confidential document.

Gosh.

Bollyn is just another example of someone who thinks people are far dumber than he doesn't realize he actually is.

leftysergeant
7th February 2008, 01:50 AM
erm...

Can anyone else here see anything like evidence that there is anything inappropriate about any dealings that the named parties may have had with each other or what this could POSSIBLY have to do with 9/11?

All I see here is evidence that there are Jews involved in the avionics business.

Horatius
7th February 2008, 07:09 AM
Let's dissect this a little. Bollyn claims:

Yawn...

What is available online tonight are the following:

A quick search of Patent Office applications, available publicly, gives us this:
http://tinyurl.com/3cbqnx

A fully public patent application.

We note that the patent application was filed March 30, 2004. We also note that the confidential business plan published by Bollyn is a PDF created on 03/27/2003 at 12:54:24 am and modified (by guess who?) on 01/29/2008 at 11:25:19 am.

So the confidential document was created a year before the patent application was filed. (It could also be 2004 if the computer date was wrong and still apply.) Would anyone reveal a potentially patentable system before filing a patent other than to prospective investors?





You have to be careful with patents, trying to figure out when the first application was filed can be a bit tricky. If you go to the official USPTO website, you can find more details on the above published application (http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220050151025%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20050151025&RS=DN/20050151025), including this important bit:


CROSS-REFERENCE TO RELATED APPLICATIONS

[0001] This is a division of U.S. application Ser. No. 10/213,410, filed Aug. 5, 2002, which claimed the benefit under 35 U.S.C. .sctn.119(e) of provisional application No. 60/326,145, filed Oct. 1, 2001.



So the earliest filing looks to be Oct. 2001. However, this was a "provisional" filing, which is usually used in the case where they have an idea, but are still working out a lot of the details. They just want to establish their right to the earliest date possible, as the US is still a "first-to-invent" country, and having at least some sort of filing date is the easiest way to establish the date of an invention.

So, what we have here is, in September 2001, someone had an idea for how to improve data communication between planes and air traffic controllers, with an additional idea that you might be able to use this system to also fly the plane remotely (maybe, someday). Now, why ever would someone have been thinking along these lines in Sept., 2001? Let me think, let me think......

Still not very suspicious to me. Except as evidence that the NWO is still really, really dumb. "Okay, we just used our soopersekret plane controlling technology to create havoc. Let's file a patent application!! That way, everyone will know about how smart we are!!!!"

Drudgewire
7th February 2008, 07:18 AM
Please help feed the cat.
What should I feed him? I heard Purina is run by JOOOOWS! :eek:

Horatius
7th February 2008, 07:26 AM
As an addendum, I've just done a brief search of a patent database I have access to, limited to documents filed in the one year between Sept. 11, 2001 and Sept. 11, 2002, and what else did I find?


US20030201365A1 ANTI-HIJACKING SYSTEM OPERABLE IN EMERGENCIES TO DEACTIVATE ON-BOARD FLIGHT CONTROLS AND REMOTELY PILOT AIRCRAFT UTILIZING AUTOPILOT Filed 2001-10-09



US7271826 Communications installation for aircraft Filed 2002-07-03

The inventive monitoring device provided has at least one audio and/or video and/or flight data recording apparatus. This may involve, in particular, microphones, video cameras and apparatuses for recording engine data, data from the control devices and the like. Preferably, a plurality of audio and/or video recording apparatuses are provided which, by way of example, can audibly and visibly record events in the cockpit and/or cabin in part or in full. When the recording apparatus is referred to within the scope of the invention, this is always also intended to cover the ordinary case of a plurality of recording apparatuses.


The recording apparatus can be activated either from on board the aircraft or by remote control from the ground station. Activation means that the apparatus starts to record audio or video data, for example. Preferably, to activate it from on board, a plurality of switches distributed inconspicuously over the cockpit and the cabin are provided, so that the cockpit or cabin crew can activate the recording apparatuses inconspicuously in the event of an aircraft hijack, for example. Remote-controlled activation from the ground station is advantageous if, for example in the event of an aircraft hijack, following a terrorist attack or a technical fault (pressure loss or the like), the cockpit and/or cabin crew are not able to act, or can act only to a restricted degree. In the case of occurrences which attract attention, such as flight data differing from the route plan (changes of course, sudden changes in altitude or the like), the ground station (air traffic controller) can then activate the monitoring system without any action by the aircraft crew in order to obtain a picture of the situation on board.





Here's my favourite:


US6933851 Air travel security method, system and device Filed 2002-08-21

A method of providing air travel security for passengers traveling via an aircraft comprises situating a remotely activatable electric shock device on each of the passengers in position to deliver a disabling electrical shock when activated; and arming the electric shock devices for subsequent selective activation by a selectively operable remote control disposed within the aircraft. The remotely activatable electric shock devices each have activation circuitry responsive to the activating signal transmitted from the selectively operable remote control means. The activated electric shock device is operable to deliver the disabling electrical shock to that passenger.



And it's not just US patents and applications. Here's an International Patent Application:



WO03035475A1 SECURITY APPARATUS AND METHOD FOR TRANSPORT VEHICLES, IN PARTICULAR AIRCRAFT Filed 2002-08-29

Security apparatus for transport vehicles, in particular aircraft, originally comprising means for monitoring persons aboard the vehicle, electronic means for acquiring and processing data received from the monitoring means and comparing them with any reference parameters in order to identify persons who are not authorised to access a cockpit and/or to detect anomalies in the vital functions of the monitored persons and means for automatically activating a remote control of vehicle and/or sending an alarm signal to a unit outside the vehicle itself in case of presence, in the cockpit, of persons identified as not authorised and/or in the presence of said anomalies. The means for activating a remote control of the vehicle are operatively associated to the electronic means. Security method for activating a remote control of a vehicle and/or sending an alarm signal to an outside unit.




That's just a sampling, of course. For my search:

((((aircraft and remote and control) ) AND (AD>=2001-09-11 ) ) AND (AD<=2002-09-11 ))


There were 40 hits, about half of which seemed to be for some sort of aircraft security system.

So many E-vill Jooooos out there! :rolleyes:

bje
7th February 2008, 09:18 AM
Good work, Horatius.

You got to the documents before the NWO could delete them.

CurtC
7th February 2008, 09:47 AM
This is the guy who is on the run after skipping bail on an assault charge isn't he? Why is he still writing this rubbish and not living like a hermit somewhere?

I think he skipped the country and is posting this crap from The Netherlands or some other uncivilized hell hole. ;)

1337m4n
9th February 2008, 02:56 AM
Bollyn...isn't he the guy who MADE UP that Ben Chertoff and Mike Chertoff were cousins, then all the Truthers started repeating it without even checking it?

ktesibios
9th February 2008, 12:38 PM
As an addendum, I've just done a brief search of a patent database I have access to, limited to documents filed in the one year between Sept. 11, 2001 and Sept. 11, 2002, and what else did I find?
<snip>

There were 40 hits, about half of which seemed to be for some sort of aircraft security system.

So many E-vill Jooooos out there! :rolleyes:

So, it looks like 9/11 inspired a lot of people to think about technical means to prevent suicide hijackings, some of them filed patent applications and these range from the practical to the maybe-in-the-next-technological-generation on through to the "dude, what are you smoking and why aren't you sharing?". For some reason this doesn't strike me as surprising- it certainly fits Henry Petroski's opinion that invention is driven by the perceived failure of existing devices to work as well as could be desired.

I'll make a prediction: after 9/11 there was probably an uptick in the number of patent applications for improved means of emergency escape from high-rise buildings as well.

In fact, I'd be surprised if a widely publicized disaster wasn't followed by increases in the number of people brainstorming ideas for predicting, preventing or mitigating the effects of similar disasters.

bje
9th February 2008, 01:02 PM
In fact, I'd be surprised if a widely publicized disaster wasn't followed by increases in the number of people brainstorming ideas for predicting, preventing or mitigating the effects of similar disasters.


Including, I hope, disasters such as the 9/11 Truth Movement.

Horatius
9th February 2008, 02:18 PM
I'll make a prediction: after 9/11 there was probably an uptick in the number of patent applications for improved means of emergency escape from high-rise buildings as well.




Well, I don't know if it's an "uptick", but a search on "building and escape" for the year after 9/11 found about 85 hits, about 20-25% of which dealt with getting out of buildings that are on fire. So far, not many mention 9/11, but some do:


US20030070872A1: METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR RESCUING OCCUPANTS FROM HIGH RISE BUILDING USING REPLACEABLE CABLE CARTRIDGES AND DYNAMIC RESISTANCE DEVICE

A rescue method and apparatus for rescuing occupants from high rise buildings includes a frame adjacent an escape portion of the building; a dynamic resistance device mounted to the frame; and a removable and replaceable cable cartridge, having a pre-roller cable, which is removably and non-rotatably coupled to a rotatable portion of the dynamic resistance device. The cable is connectable to a person to be rescued. When the person to be rescued goes out from the escape portion of the building, his falling motion causes the cable to move with the same speed as the falling speed, thus causing the rotatable portion of the dynamic resistance device to rotate and to create resistance to the falling speed, until the falling speed of the person reaches a substantially constant value. After a first person is rescued, a new cable cartridge is mounted and the cable thereof is connected to a next person to be rescued.

*****


This invention relates to a rescue method and apparatus for rescuing occupants from high rise buildings, which is highly reliable, always ready to be used, with no preparation, which can rescue many people within a short time, for example, at a time of a fire, and which requires no power supply.
The problem of rescuing trapped people from high rise buildings at the time of a fire, explosion, etc., is well-known and has been reemphasized tragically by the events of Sept. 11, 2001.


Uh-oh! Inventor for the above? Inventor: Meller, Moshe; Haifa, Israel!


Of course, Japanese translations are always amusing:

JP2003190309A2: DROP CATCHER IN CASE OF FIRE OF BUILDING

To provide a rack for catching human bodies installed on the second floor of buildings which can save escaping persons with slight injuries in case of fires at multipurpose buildings or pencil-like tall buildings, which often have forced occupants to lose way out and be badly smothered with smoke eventually dying against their wills for survival without choosing only one and the best way, that is, jumping out from the buildings quickly and helps the people to survive when desperately jumping out of death taking a high risk of jumping down from heights or otherwise, those left in the buildings are sure to die.


If there's one thing I hate, it's dying against my will to survive!


And there's others. A search on "terrorism" found a few....interesting ideas.

WO03026960A1: MODIFICATION OF AIRPLANE FOR COMPLETELY PREVENTING SUICIDAL TERRORISM USING AIRPLANE ITSELF AS HUGE BOMB OR MISSILE

The object of the invention is to prevent suicidal terrorism using an airplane itself as a huge bomb or guided missile. Crimes such as a hijacking in which the criminal does not intend to commit suicide are also prevented. When conventional airplane encounters a suicidal terrorism, what can be selected by the pilot is only to make a crash landing as soon as possible so that those other than the crew and passengers may be not harmed, and the airplane may not take off again. However, the fact is that the airplane explodes. This problem has been solved by separating the cockpit, cabin and cargo hold completely so that the pilot can get on and off the airplane only through dedicated entrances/exits only while the airplane is on the land, by providing the cockpit separately with spaces for nap, meal and toilet, and by interposing such a protective partition between the cabin and the cargo hold openable only when the airplane stops on the land and controllable only by the pilot.



JP2004003241A2: COUNTERMEASURE AGAINST COLLISION OF AIRCRAFT WITH HIGHRISE BUILDING AND THE LIKE

PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED: To prevent newly-built and existing highrise buildings etc. from wholly collapsing due to long hours of combustion of large quantities of aviation fuel, which is caused by a collision of an aircraft at an act of terrorism and an accident.
SOLUTION: Aboveground general floors of the highrise building etc., which arouses concern about the collision of the aircraft, are provided with exhaust ports for floor drainage similar to floor drainage on a roof floor. Thus, pipes are arranged in a reinforced-concrete underground cistern which is composed of a foundation slab, a bottom-floor floor slab directly above the foundation slab and a foundation beam surrounding the floor slab, or an underground cistern which is provided outside a building, so that large quantities of the aviation fuel, which leaks out of the aircraft colliding with the building, can be rapidly flowed down into the underground cistern from the floors with which the aircraft collides.


US6696928: Method and system for countering hostile activity aboard an airplane

A method of countering terrorism or hostile activity in an airplane by using a built-in defense system within the aircraft. The defense system includes chemical sprays, laser guns, and pre-programmed sound alarm systems. The aerosol chemicals range from benign fogging agents to non-lethal incapacitating agents from the categories of inhalants, general anesthetics, and irritants. Any of the systems can be used singly or in any combination. These systems can be activated manually from the control panel in the cockpit, or via a remote wireless system by the flight crew from anywhere within the plane. Such activation being password and code protected.

ktesibios
9th February 2008, 04:31 PM
JP2003190309A2: DROP CATCHER IN CASE OF FIRE OF BUILDING

To provide a rack for catching human bodies installed on the second floor of buildings which can save escaping persons with slight injuries in case of fires at multipurpose buildings or pencil-like tall buildings, which often have forced occupants to lose way out and be badly smothered with smoke eventually dying against their wills for survival without choosing only one and the best way, that is, jumping out from the buildings quickly and helps the people to survive when desperately jumping out of death taking a high risk of jumping down from heights or otherwise, those left in the buildings are sure to die.Stop the presses!

we've just found Spooked911's (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8009371&postID=6549471929202327332&isPopup=true) dream! ;)