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Andonyx
26th September 2003, 07:35 AM
Another beautiful use for religion in our society:
The Hupps say Harmony Church, which meets in a Tulsa, Oklahoma home forever changed their son. The church recruited members from Oral Roberts University, without the school's approval, and once the university found out, administrators kicked them off campus.
This summer, police in Tulsa arrested the church's pastors, Janice and Robert Turner, a married couple. Investigators say a church member confessed to them they had sexually abused a child. But instead of reporting that abuse to police, like the law requires, detectives say the Turners severely beat that member, and others who disobeyed them, in religious ceremonies they call "disciplining the flesh."
Detectives call Harmony Church a "cult".
"I thought we had more influence over Joshua," Susan says. "It was a denial on my part to think that could really never happen here, it really couldn't happen here, but it has."
Keneke
26th September 2003, 07:44 AM
Funny that they went fishing at ORU. I guess they stock that pond.
Sundog
26th September 2003, 07:45 AM
Great. Wonderful that my hometown is the religious woowoo capital of the Universe.
c4ts
26th September 2003, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by Sundog
Great. Wonderful that my hometown is the religious woowoo capital of the Universe.
At least Sylvia Browne doesn't live there.
Sundog
26th September 2003, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by c4ts
At least Sylvia Browne doesn't live there.
Yet. :(
Little-known fact. Sam Kineson was in Tulsa for a while when HE was a minister.
Eos of the Eons
26th September 2003, 07:04 PM
"I thought we had more influence over Joshua," Susan says. "It was a denial on my part to think that could really never happen here, it really couldn't happen here, but it has."
If there are people there, it can happen. Teach your kids about cultism and the tricks they use to recruit.
Lord Kenneth
26th September 2003, 07:21 PM
I see a link is absent from your post. Could you please post it so we can see the rest of the story? I don't see much information about the kid...
Tricky
26th September 2003, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
If there are people there, it can happen. Teach your kids about cultism and the tricks they use to recruit.
A very good bit of advice, EotE. But as Keneke suggested, it is less likely that kids with a strong evangelical upbringing, i.e. those likely to attend Oral Roberts University, will be taught to think critically about people who claim to be speaking for God. If a cult were shopping for people without critical thinking skills, ORU would look like the Mall of the Americas to them.
Eos of the Eons
26th September 2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Tricky
A very good bit of advice, EotE. But as Keneke suggested, it is less likely that kids with a strong evangelical upbringing, i.e. those likely to attend Oral Roberts University, will be taught to think critically about people who claim to be speaking for God. If a cult were shopping for people without critical thinking skills, ORU would look like the Mall of the Americas to them.
Hmm is that bad or good... Just kidding! But good point. That's why I'm making sure my kids think for themselves.
neutrino_cannon
26th September 2003, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Tricky
A very good bit of advice, EotE. But as Keneke suggested, it is less likely that kids with a strong evangelical upbringing, i.e. those likely to attend Oral Roberts University, will be taught to think critically about people who claim to be speaking for God. If a cult were shopping for people without critical thinking skills, ORU would look like the Mall of the Americas to them.
That's creepy. I imagine this is why there are so many cults that incorporate some mention of christ, thebetter to throw off approaching prey.
And yes, I think cults aren't just parasitic, I think they're predatory.
Gulliamo
26th September 2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Andonyx
Oral Roberts University [/B]
Are you for real? The wackos have thier own university? I'm guessing that they skip the courses on critical thinking skills at this U.
evildave
26th September 2003, 10:49 PM
There's a link to the story in 'Ugly Religion'.
Recruited into a cult from Oral Roberts University? Oh well, install Windows, end up with viruses.
Yahweh
27th September 2003, 05:59 PM
detectives say the Turners severely beat that member, and others who disobeyed them, in religious ceremonies they call "disciplining the flesh."
Refreshing!
At least these cult members are resting comfortably in jail, please drop the soap as often as you can fellas!
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