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MG1962
13th February 2008, 01:53 AM
Today we acknowledged a series of poor decisions made regarding the future of our first nation people. Through the first half of the 20th Century, many Aborginal children were removed from their parents in the hope of giving them a better life. Today our government apologised unreserveredly for these events, and promised never to allow them to happen again

Here is the text as delivered by Prime Minister Rudd

"Today we honour the Indigenous peoples of this land, the oldest continuing cultures in human history.
We reflect on their past mistreatment.
We reflect in particular on the mistreatment of those who were Stolen Generations - this blemished chapter in our nation's history.
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The time has now come for the nation to turn a new page in Australia's history by righting the wrongs of the past and so moving forward with confidence to the future.
We apologise for the laws and policies of successive Parliaments and governments that have inflicted profound grief, suffering and loss on these our fellow Australians.
We apologise especially for the removal of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children from their families, their communities and their country.
For the pain, suffering and hurt of these Stolen Generations, their descendants and for their families left behind, we say sorry.
To the mothers and the fathers, the brothers and the sisters, for the breaking up of families and communities, we say sorry.
And for the indignity and degradation thus inflicted on a proud people and a proud culture, we say sorry.
We the Parliament of Australia respectfully request that this apology be received in the spirit in which it is offered as part of the healing of the nation.
For the future we take heart; resolving that this new page in the history of our great continent can now be written.
We today take this first step by acknowledging the past and laying claim to a future that embraces all Australians.
A future where this Parliament resolves that the injustices of the past must never, never happen again.
A future where we harness the determination of all Australians, Indigenous and non-Indigenous, to close the gap that lies between us in life expectancy, educational achievement and economic opportunity.
A future where we embrace the possibility of new solutions to enduring problems where old approaches have failed.
A future based on mutual respect, mutual resolve and mutual responsibility.
A future where all Australians, whatever their origins, are truly equal partners, with equal opportunities and with an equal stake in shaping the next chapter in the history of this great country, Australia

ref
13th February 2008, 02:00 AM
That's a step forward. Good to hear that.

MG1962
13th February 2008, 02:05 AM
Thanks, I was pretty proud I have to say. I know some wont agree with me, but what the hell. It is history now lol

ref
13th February 2008, 02:14 AM
Thanks, I was pretty proud I have to say. I know some wont agree with me, but what the hell. It is history now lol

Well, it won't change the past, but at least the acknowledgement hopefully makes up for a better future :)

Beerina
13th February 2008, 04:09 PM
A good sign, but you left out the last line:

"And for the rest of you who are of European DNA, you're stull fully under our thumb." :)

rjh01
13th February 2008, 11:42 PM
What made the stolen Generations even worse was the mistreatment the children received.
-They only received a basic education.
- Many were not given to loving families. They were put in an orphanage.
- Brothers and sisters were separated.
- Nothing was done to make sure that the program was benefiting the children.
- A few children were abused but this was never detected (though you could say this about any abused child at that time)

Mobyseven
14th February 2008, 12:49 AM
I'm happy that the PM apologised. I'm not angry at John Howard for not apologising (I've got a list of reasons to be angry at him too long already to add to), because he probably weighed up his options and decided that he would rather be reviled than deal with the probable compensation claims that will come of the apology. I think that Rudd has made the right decision in risking that in the hope we can move forward.

Now what we really need to do is put plans into action. Words will mean very little if, when the end of this term rolls around, the aboriginal people haven't seen any improvement in their communities. I'll be watching with interest as this all unfolds - hopefully for the better.

wowowowye
14th February 2008, 10:40 PM
Honestly, this will make no difference for good.
Saying sorry won't change anything. Should we say sorry for
the billions of dollers a year spent on Aboriginal people in the NT alone?

Now that we have said "sorry" to Aboriginal people, should we say sorry to all the people in the war we killed? Should we have to pay reparations to all the people in the war? No.

Why should I have to say sorry, for something I haven't done?

I was listening to the radio a few days ago, and a story came on about a man, who's child was FORCED to say sorry to Aboriginal people.
He came home and said "I had to say sorry for KILLING the abodigidals".
Is that justice?

Magenta
14th February 2008, 11:08 PM
Honestly, this will make no difference for good.
Saying sorry won't change anything. Should we say sorry for
the billions of dollers a year spent on Aboriginal people in the NT alone?

Now that we have said "sorry" to Aboriginal people, should we say sorry to all the people in the war we killed? Should we have to pay reparations to all the people in the war? No.

Why should I have to say sorry, for something I haven't done?

I was listening to the radio a few days ago, and a story came on about a man, who's child was FORCED to say sorry to Aboriginal people.
He came home and said "I had to say sorry for KILLING the abodigidals".
Is that justice?


Overreact much? Have you actually read the text of the apology? No one is making anyone say sorry.

athon
14th February 2008, 11:09 PM
I never knew Andrew Bolt had an account on here. Wow.

Honestly, this will make no difference for good.

On its own it won't produce much of anything practical. But it makes a strong statement to the population that the government's current attitude is different to those prior.

Saying sorry won't change anything. Should we say sorry for
the billions of dollers a year spent on Aboriginal people in the NT alone?

'Billions' of dollars? Got some figures there to back that up, or is this just silly ranting?

Now that we have said "sorry" to Aboriginal people, should we say sorry to all the people in the war we killed? Should we have to pay reparations to all the people in the war? No.

Why should I have to say sorry, for something I haven't done?


We go from the silly to the blithering loony here. The scary thing is, the government put out quite a bit of information explaining the situation before the actual address. And still there's idiotic statements made like this.

'I don't done need ta' be informed ta' make ma opinions!' :rolleyes:

I was listening to the radio a few days ago, and a story came on about a man, who's child was FORCED to say sorry to Aboriginal people.
He came home and said "I had to say sorry for KILLING the abodigidals".
Is that justice?

You probably watch A Current Affair, too, I bet. Yup. One gene pool in desperate need of some chlorine.

Athon

Damien Evans
16th February 2008, 03:51 AM
I never knew Andrew Bolt had an account on here. Wow.



On its own it won't produce much of anything practical. But it makes a strong statement to the population that the government's current attitude is different to those prior.



'Billions' of dollars? Got some figures there to back that up, or is this just silly ranting?



We go from the silly to the blithering loony here. The scary thing is, the government put out quite a bit of information explaining the situation before the actual address. And still there's idiotic statements made like this.

'I don't done need ta' be informed ta' make ma opinions!' :rolleyes:



You probably watch A Current Affair, too, I bet. Yup. One gene pool in desperate need of some chlorine.

Athon

Ah, ACA and Today Tonight, equal winners in the competition: Worst TV show in the history of ever. Honorable mention to Yasmine's Getting married.

UnrepentantSinner
20th February 2008, 09:09 AM
I watched a replay of Kevin Rudd's speech on C-SPAN2 about an hour ago and I think it was one of the most amazing speeches, especially given the context, that I've seen delivered in years. When he brought the historical issue into perspective by noting that sitting members of Parliament had been there when the Lost Generations policies were still being implimented and when he hoped for a future where Australians who had been there 1000 generations, came on the first fleet or had recently gained citizenship could work together, I was brought to tears.

Well done Australia indeed. :thumbsup: