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Undesired Walrus
18th February 2008, 09:21 AM
Well, when we say 'life' over here it is 14 years, but whatever..

Some of the bugged transcript.

PK: "Like that, I think you cut it out/off like you cut a pig. Then you put it on a stick and we say, this is to all [Muslims], man, we likes to, we want to join the Kuffar army, this is what will happen to you.

"Then we throw the body, burn it, send the video to the chacha [uncles, a term for Mujahideen leaders in Afghanistan or Pakistan]. The chacha can release it there.

"These people gonna go crazy. Didn't say the chacha, he do this in the other country he release it there. Where is the chacha? He could be next door, he could be upstairs, he could be downstairs. These people will go crazy, man."

'Searching'

BG: "So what happens. True man."

PK: "These people will go mad. This is what they call you will terrorise them, they will go crazy.

"They will start searching. Are they London, Birmingham, Newcastle, where are these people? They killed one of our soldiers in country. They've gone into countries, they're in our countries. They'll go crazy, Achi.....



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7250697.stm

Nice stuff.

On the plus side, at least it is not a Londonistan case!

gumboot
18th February 2008, 09:34 AM
Well, when we say 'life' over here it is 14 years, but whatever..


Life is life. 14 years is the minimum non-parole period. If he is ever paroled he will remain on parole until the day he dies.

mrbaracuda
18th February 2008, 09:37 AM
Isn't "lad" a rather positive term for a ****tard like that guy? ;)

tkingdoll
18th February 2008, 09:40 AM
Meh, I hate this stuff.

Polaris
18th February 2008, 09:41 AM
May he swiftly be Dahmer-ed.

Undesired Walrus
18th February 2008, 09:56 AM
In a bugged conversation, he was heard saying to his 10 year old child;

Birmingham bloke-'Who do you love?'

Son -'Osama Bin Laden'

Including asking him how he would slit the throats of kufr, only to demonstrate to him (Indicated by what he is saying).

Poor child.

We must now realise that British children who become radicals in the future have perhaps been molded in the same way. It is very important we stop this, but not hate those who grow up to hate 'us'.

Francesca R
18th February 2008, 10:52 AM
On the plus side, at least it is not a Londonistan case!What do you mean?

Isn't "lad" a rather positive term for a ****tard like that guy? ;)Probably this is to associate such terrorism with "the bloke next door who you see down the newsagent", not just "those fanatics that grew up in the savage desert".

richardm
18th February 2008, 11:00 AM
"If there had been a genuine threat, the buggers would have stopped it much earlier."


The BBC seem to think that this must be a reference to covert surveillance ;)

baron
18th February 2008, 11:56 AM
I only wish the courts would assume the same hard line with home-grown criminals.

Undesired Walrus
18th February 2008, 12:38 PM
I only wish the courts would assume the same hard line with home-grown criminals.

He is home grown.

Acuity, it is a slightly fearmongering term if you ask me, but an interesting one nonetheless: Londonistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londonistan_%28term%29)

Francesca R
18th February 2008, 01:28 PM
He is home grown.

Acuity, it is a slightly fearmongering term if you ask me, but an interesting one nonetheless: Londonistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londonistan_%28term%29)But what difference does it make if the person is from London? Birmingham and the midlands are known to have a high muslim population too. As has Yorkshire (home of the 7/7 bombers)

fuelair
18th February 2008, 03:10 PM
In a bugged conversation, he was heard saying to his 10 year old child;

Birmingham bloke-'Who do you love?'

Son -'Osama Bin Laden'

Including asking him how he would slit the throats of kufr, only to demonstrate to him (Indicated by what he is saying).

Poor child.

We must now realise that British children who become radicals in the future have perhaps been molded in the same way. It is very important we stop this, but not hate those who grow up to hate 'us'.
Hate them,NO, but be ready to kill them without mercy or qualm if they try to act on their hate.

gtc
19th February 2008, 12:18 AM
But what difference does it make if the person is from London? Birmingham and the midlands are known to have a high muslim population too. As has Yorkshire (home of the 7/7 bombers)

I don't think he is using the word to refer to london. He is saying that the perp was home grown.

Londonistan is used to refer to the radicals who were given asylum in Britain and who were able to use Britain as the base for overseas plots.