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Cylinder
19th February 2008, 11:31 PM
Permanent U.S. Army command taking shape in Kuwait (http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=52596)

U.S. Army Central is establishing a permanent platform for “full spectrum operations” in 27 countries around southwest Asia and the Middle East, its commander says.

Lt. Gen. James J. Lovelace said the Army has diverse capabilities here now but plans to reach a complete level of operational effectiveness by July.

The restructuring, which offers more flexibility for offensive, defensive and stability operations, is a major piece of transformation worldwide, said Lovelace.

“It’s the first Army command to do this,” said Lovelace, who also heads the Coalition Forces Land Component. “Now, we’re not only operational but the Army has committed other assets.”

Smart move.

In a nod to its 3rd Army roots, USACENT will retail the "Rolling A" insignia.

Matteo Martini
20th February 2008, 07:39 PM
Permanent U.S. Army command taking shape in Kuwait (http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=52596)



Smart move.

In a nod to its 3rd Army roots, USACENT will retail the "Rolling A" insignia.

Mm..
Guess they want to open more bases in Iraq soon..

Darth Rotor
21st February 2008, 12:38 PM
Mm..
Guess they want to open more bases in Iraq soon..
More? Aren't there enough already? :confused:

This appears to formalize what has been informally going on since about 1991.

DR

Garrette
21st February 2008, 12:44 PM
Makes sense. Now if only AFRICOM could find a home, and if it does, do they keep HOA in CENTCOM or chop it off to AFRICOM?

Garrette
21st February 2008, 12:46 PM
Mm..
Guess they want to open more bases in Iraq soon..To be built directly over the oilfields in an effort to cut out the middle man.

Later we'll plunder Florence for the artwork. You can keep Naples.

Darth Rotor
21st February 2008, 01:06 PM
To be built directly over the oilfields in an effort to cut out the middle man.

Later we'll plunder Florence for the artwork. You can keep Naples.
Don't you recall that article from Matteo in the other thread? They don't want Naples anymore. :D

Pro Tip for all travellers: in the Campagna regione, you will find the tastiest tomatoes on the planet earth. The volcanic soil does wonders. Likewise, the original mozarella di buffala, made near Mondragone. Go south toward Salerno, but cut right at the exit for Vietri, and you can find lemons as sweet (you can eat them like a peeled orange) as anywhere on earth.

Oh, and screw Capri, it's over priced. Head to Ischia.

DR

Garrette
21st February 2008, 01:09 PM
Don't you recall that article from Matteo in the other thread? They don't want Naples anymore. :D

DRPalestinian Homeland, then? It's a win/win. Or at least a we-didn't-surrender/win.

[Don't get huffy, Matteo; like Darth in the other thread, I've respect for Italy and it's military]

Darth Rotor
21st February 2008, 01:17 PM
Palestinian Homeland, then? It's a win/win. Or at least a we-didn't-surrender/win.

[Don't get huffy, Matteo; like Darth in the other thread, I've respect for Italy and it's military]

My only concern with this cunning plan is:

Can a Palestinian make a Vera Pizza Napoletana (http://www.fornobravo.com/vera_pizza_napoletana/VPN_guideline.html )? This has to be resolved before any surrender document agreement is signed.

Some things are worth fighting for. I present, for the court's consideration, exhibit A:

Garrette
21st February 2008, 01:37 PM
Well...... they do have their flatbreads (http://www.foodmuseum.com/pizzahistory/pizza/index.htm) upon which they could learn to pile the appropriate mix of veggies, herbs, and cheese.

Or they could ask for permission to use the Egyptian Flatbread (http://www.foodmuseum.com/pizzahistory/pizza/index.htm), pizza style, and be nearly where you want them. It may still be a longshot: which is more appealing: starting or rocketing a corner pizza place?

Darth Rotor
21st February 2008, 06:07 PM
Or they could ask for permission to use the Egyptian Flatbread (http://www.foodmuseum.com/pizzahistory/pizza/index.htm), pizza style, and be nearly where you want them. It may still be a longshot: which is more appealing: starting or rocketing a corner pizza place?
Ask Spike Lee, he thinks burning it is the best approach. :p

Regarding the flatbread: I've had it, the Italians improved upon that idea, I'm a goin' with Gino, and his pizzeria.

DR

Complexity
22nd February 2008, 10:47 PM
The Romans established a permanent presence in the British Isles, too.

Look what that got them.

JEROME DA GNOME
22nd February 2008, 10:55 PM
Permanent U.S. Army command taking shape in Kuwait (http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=52596)



Smart move.

In a nod to its 3rd Army roots, USACENT will retail the "Rolling A" insignia.


Is this an overt admission of Empire?

Cylinder
23rd February 2008, 09:41 AM
Is this an overt admission of Empire?

No - it's a command headquarters. There's no evidence that the US maintains imperial control over Kuwait. There is, of course, the whole we gave them their country back thing. Are we counting defense agreement here?

JEROME DA GNOME
23rd February 2008, 09:44 AM
No - it's a command headquarters. There's no evidence that the US maintains imperial control over Kuwait. There is, of course, the whole we gave them their country back thing. Are we counting defense agreement here?

How much military presence by one nation throughout the world would be needed for you to consider it an empire?

firecoins
23rd February 2008, 09:48 AM
Among targeted objectives, he said: Helping Kenya deal with volatility in neighboring Somalia, facilitating Patriot missiles in Qatar and Bahrain to discourage attacks from Iran, and assisting Kuwait with plans to start a navy.


Why would the US Army help Kuwait start a Navy? Wouldn't the US Navy do that?

Region Rat
23rd February 2008, 11:21 AM
How much military presence by one nation throughout the world would be needed for you to consider it an empire?

Until that military defeats and disbands/absorbs all the other military forces in the countries in question, and takes over government control of said countries, I wouldn't worry too much. That doesn't seem to be happening, so you can relax now.

Darth Rotor
25th February 2008, 03:48 PM
Why would the US Army help Kuwait start a Navy? Wouldn't the US Navy do that?
One would think so, though IIRC, the Royal Navy had more to do with that in that region.

FWIW: the USAF has a training unit stood up that is working on traininig the Iraqi Air Force. At least that makes sense.

DR

JEROME DA GNOME
25th February 2008, 07:42 PM
Until that military defeats and disbands/absorbs all the other military forces in the countries in question, and takes over government control of said countries, I wouldn't worry too much. That doesn't seem to be happening, so you can relax now.

You seem unaware of what an Empire is.

Garrette
26th February 2008, 07:14 AM
You seem unaware of what an Empire is.His idea seems far more reasonable than yours, but do tell what your definition is.

Ziggurat
26th February 2008, 01:55 PM
How much military presence by one nation throughout the world would be needed for you to consider it an empire?

The US is not an empire. It is a hegemon. There's a difference.

Garrette
26th February 2008, 01:59 PM
The US is not an empire. It is a hegemon. There's a difference.One is a dueling creature from a kids' anime?

gtc
26th February 2008, 06:06 PM
One is a dueling creature from a kids' anime?

Ah yes, hegemon the evolved form of plantemon that evolves into forestemon. Special attack, surrounding his opponent with an impenatrable thicket.

JEROME DA GNOME
26th February 2008, 06:50 PM
The US is not an empire. It is a hegemon. There's a difference.

Semantic difference, yes.

KoihimeNakamura
26th February 2008, 06:54 PM
Bit more than semantics.