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Bikewer
20th February 2008, 08:34 AM
I've put this in Social Issues rather than politics, as it's more a comment about how Gonzales is perceived....

Mr. Gonzales was invited to speak at the university yesterday, an affair paid for out of Student Union funds to the tune of 30,000 dollars. That was Gonzales' honarium alone, likely the total bill (for security and all) would be considerably higher.

There were 500 student-only tickets given out, and to my eyeball-count that was probably the attendance. We (for those who don't know I'm with the university police) provided considerable security, since Gonzales' speaking tour has drawn protests.
Indeed, our department even met with the prospective protesters, discussing their plans and setting limits. Our students have not been known for much in the way of activism since the 60s.
The event went off without any problems. A number of protesters showed up in orange jumpsuits, sang songs and chanted, and even brought a band along. The orange-jumpsuited students filed in without any problem when the doors opened, and briefly stood and turned their backs when Gonzales started his presentation. They then sat back down and listened. A couple of students walked out, and there were a few boos.
A brief question-and-answer period (questions on cards from the audience) resulted in the only laugh of the evening, when the Campus Republican representative who was asking the questions fumbled through the cards and said, "a lot of these are not really questions..."

Gonzales is a poor public speaker; his voice often breaking and his manner stiff. He rarely looked up from his notes. If you listened to his Congressional grilling, you pretty much got it.

So much for all that....

More striking, I thought, was the reaction of many of the folks I talked to who who seemed absolutely clueless as to who the man was and what the protest was all about. "Who is this guy?" I heard one police officer ask. Another did not have any idea as to why he was controversial or why anyone would be protesting.
It's said that the basis of democracy is a well-informed public......

Francesca R
20th February 2008, 09:05 AM
Which "Mr Gonzales"?

mrbaracuda
20th February 2008, 09:10 AM
Which "Mr Gonzales"?

That judge guy that "forgot" everything he ever did? Judging by the moronic orange jumpsuit guys.

Radrook
20th February 2008, 09:13 AM
The forgetfulness is cultural.

fuelair
20th February 2008, 09:40 AM
Which "Mr Gonzales"?

The one who gave up his honor for "Your Honor". Alberto: liar, defender of filth, purveyor of shrub"justice".

Soapy Sam
20th February 2008, 10:24 AM
Little guy? Sombrero?

Seriously, I have no idea who is under discussion.
A brief background summary please?

Complexity
20th February 2008, 10:28 AM
He is an evil lying weasel that the world will be much better without (no threads explicit or implied).

mrbaracuda
20th February 2008, 11:41 AM
He is an evil lying weasel that the world will be much better without (no threads explicit or implied).

Liar? Most likely. What has he done though? You seem to be so informed. I mainly got my Alberto fix through the Daily Show. ;)

Tricky
20th February 2008, 11:50 AM
Little guy? Sombrero?

Seriously, I have no idea who is under discussion.
A brief background summary please?
Former Attorney General of the US. Resigned in disgrace a few months ago. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Gonzales#Controversies)

Bikewer
20th February 2008, 11:51 AM
Little guy? Sombrero?

Seriously, I have no idea who is under discussion.
A brief background summary please?

Attorney General of the United States? Bush crony since Texas? Responsible (or so 'tis said) for drafting the interrogation "policy" for detainees at GitMo? Directly responsible (or so 'tis said) for the politicization of the Justice Department, the firing of US attorneys on political grounds, etc, etc.

The man who's main reply to congressional inquiry was "I don't recall." ?

Soapy Sam
20th February 2008, 12:13 PM
Former Attorney General of the US. Resigned in disgrace a few months ago. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Gonzales#Controversies)

Muchas gracias.

Darth Rotor
20th February 2008, 01:13 PM
I've put this in Social Issues rather than politics, as it's more a comment about how Gonzales is perceived....

Mr. Gonzales was invited to speak at the university yesterday, an affair paid for out of Student Union funds to the tune of 30,000 dollars. That was Gonzales' honarium alone, likely the total bill (for security and all) would be considerably higher.


Thirty Grand? That's highway robbery. Who negotiated that deal for Gonzo?

DR

Bikewer
20th February 2008, 06:31 PM
My thought was that I could have told police "war stories" for an hour and been a lot more entertaining....I would have been happy with a few thou.
Still, the PR gal I was talking to said that's pretty cheap nowadays. Gingrich gets 45,000, and Clinton (Mr...) gets 150,000.

President Bush
20th February 2008, 07:06 PM
Thirty Grand? That's highway robbery. Who negotiated that deal for Gonzo?


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