Transistor origin.. ufo or invented?

[Maxell]

http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/12/transistor.htm

Did transistor really invented.. or is it origin in Ufo.
where today evidence points?

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

The space aliens thing is a disinformation campaign. We got the transistor from transdimensionals.

~~ Paul

[Tez]

As someone who works at the labs that he talks about, I must confess I believe every word. I do think its rather disappointing that alien technology was only a few months ahead of human technology (as anyone capable of reading old journals would realise)....

[Yahweh]

Clearly, AT&T is in cahoots with the Aliens!

This looks like the work of the Venusians, possibly even the Ataen...

Clearly the Venusians and the Ataen have teamed up to aid AT&T in technological superiority...

Clearly AT&T is an outlet exchange of extraterrestrial technology for fresh human bodies...

But the Venusians dont earthlings, the Ataen have no need for their bodies... theyre loyal to the Federation of Humainoid life-forms...

What is AT&T plotting?
What do they want with the Venusians?
Do the Ataens have anything to do with it?

[Ed]

I thought AT&T got it from a guy that came back in time and then came back again and destroyed it.


That's about right, isn't it?

[lofgoernost]

Forget aliens -- I once dreamed that I travelled back in time and decided I'd make myself rich by inventing the transistor. Of course, I had no idea how one worked, but I explained the basic idea to a techie and he worked it out.

I haven't gone back to destroy it yet, though. Am I supposed to do that?

I prefer to think my dreamself is responsible for this particular little piece of technical wonder. There's something I'll be able to tell the grandkids about.

[Ratman_tf]

Atlanteans invented the transistor in 12,000 BC, and archeologists found one in an egyptian urn. The government hushed it all up and 'invented' the transistor decades later.

[WildCat]

Of course it's alien technology. I once had to send my stereo receiver to Planet X to get fixed, the shipping was outrageous. Money-grubbing aliens. :mad:

[Ladewig]

So, the aliens flew interstellar distances using transistor technology. No wonder they crashed when they finally got here.

[jj]

Well, you wouldn't be the first to wonder if Shockley was a bit alien.

[Scott Wheeler]

Of course they were alien in origin. humans are incapable of inventing something like a transistor. But when we started modifying the original alien design and improving it their egos were bruised. so they took it out on cows.

[Dragon]

:big: ... to all the above. You guys!

[Ed]

Originally posted by Scott Wheeler
Of course they were alien in origin. humans are incapable of inventing something like a transistor. But when we started modifying the original alien design and improving it their egos were bruised. so they took it out on cows.

And hence, their greatest gift of all.....





MacDonald's:D

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Maxell
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/12/transistor.htm

Did transistor really invented.. or is it origin in Ufo.
where today evidence points?

Maxell,

please forgive my colleagues. They forget their manners sometimes when their mothers are not around.

First of all.

Can we establish if you are a troll or sincere? Once we establish that, we can go on.

[Ed]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


Maxell,

please forgive my colleagues. They forget their manners sometimes when their mothers are not around.

First of all.

Can we establish if you are a troll or sincere? Once we establish that, we can go on.

Indeed, indeed. Perhaps you can supply references: T'a Chi, perhaps. Or Luci, yes Luci would do nicely. This sounds like it is right up it's alley.

[MRC_Hans]

Ah, good AUP! Reading through the thread from top, I was wondering if I could give a serious answer without standing out as an incorrigible bore. ..... Wait! I already do! ..... Oh well...

The site linked to does not present any evidence, it just claims to have some.

Anyway, the idea is ridiculous. As that account actually recognizes, the AT&T labs at that time were among the absolute prime innovation centers. The first transistors were VERY primitive. Why shouldn't they have invented them? Sudden? ALL inventions can be said to be sudden.

Are you seriously suggesting that Aliens were using point-transistors? Those first devices were only just able to demonstrate the principle.

Hans

[Ladewig]

The seriousness of the reply should be proportional to the seriousness of the question.

How much credence should we place in the idea that in 1947, aliens crash near a one of the most secure military bases in the world? The U.S. government then recovers enough of the spacecraft (which was not burned in the atmosphere) to produce hundreds of documents very roughly describing this alien technology. The documents, without question the most important documents in the history of the world, are not separated and placed in safes under guard, but rather are all put into 28 boxes marked "Western Electric, Bell Laboratories: Z-Division." The original documents, in their original boxes, then turn up 50 years later. A member of the Joint Chiefsof Staff trying to determine the authenticity and importance of these documents does not ask the NSA or the FBI or military intelligence to look at the documents, but instead calls in a civilan with no security clearance to look at what must have been top-secret classified documents stored at his home!

The original question was could all this information, presented on a page with a flying saucer, be true. Before I answer, I have to loosen my belt so that monkeys can fly out of my ass. No.

[Dragon]

Originally posted by Maxell
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/12/transistor.htm

Did transistor really invented.. or is it origin in Ufo.
where today evidence points?

Hmmm, I see that wealth4freedom.com is some sort of New World Order conspiracy site. I'm afraid I don't have the patience to read too much of that stuff but it looks like paranoia runs amok there.

[Michael Redman]

Doesn't a transistor do pretty much what a vacuum tube does? Not really a ground breaking scientific discovery, then, but more of a very useful advance in technology.

This reminds me of the claims of useful historic or scientific information in the Bible, which, for some reason, only gives us information that we coincidentally already have, and never anything timely. When will the Bible reveal something before it happens, or the Aliens give us something that wasn't obvious and predictabe from present knowledge and technology?

[Sundog]

Originally posted by Michael Redman
Doesn't a transistor do pretty much what a vacuum tube does? Not really a ground breaking scientific discovery, then, but more of a very useful advance in technology.



Yes.

It's called "liberal arts syndrome", at least it is now, since I just made it up. Adults who have never in their lives confronted a technical field find it impossible that engineers and scientists can actually know what they know. After all, THEY themselves couldn't do it in a hundred years, and they know they're intelligent, so aliens must have done it.

[Tez]

Whoa - really freaky thing happened. On my way to lunch I decided to use my newly acquired digital camera to take a picture of the first transistor, which is in a display case out the front (any member of the public who can bear NJ long enough to come to Bell can have a look).

So I'm in front of the case, and the first strange thing is that I cant get this camera to work. Finally, just when I have a shot lined up, a tall man with thinning hair and a grave look on his face appproaches. As I gaze into his tawny eyes, I feel as if I'm falling into aeons of the universe's history.

Now I'm not the sort of guy who normally believes in all this alien bullsh*t you know, but I knew this guy was from somewhere else. Definitely not human, despite outward appearances.

After I take a picture of the transistor, he says to me "I miss those three". I know that he's referring to the three "discoverers" of the transistor - there is a picture of them in the case.

As I turn to take a picture of the notebook, he waves his hand in a funny way, just at the moment I take the picture. Only just now, when I developed it, did I notice the strange orbing glow which is blocking out some crucial entries.

At this stage I have said little, but then he says "follow me". I know that I am about to embark on the most exciting adventure of my life. I asked him if I could first go back to my office and get my coffee mug - I really hate to be without it. Then I thought I should quickly post these pictures on JREF, because I suspect I'll be gone for a very long time......

http://www.physicsnerd.com/transistor_small.jpg

http://www.physicsnerd.com/notebook_small.jpg

[Scott Wheeler]

While i was making light of the question I thought my answer pointed out an obvious flaw with the idea that transistors were given to us by aliens. If they were comming from aliens who have the technology for interstellar travel, they would have been far more sophisticated transistors and we would not have been able to improve them. Early transistors were no more the invention of aliens capable of interstellar travel then the wagon wheel was the invention of modern day designers for race cars.

[uruk]

Does'nt AT&T stand for Alien Technology and Telekinesis?

I know sometimes humans can be dense critters, but we are fully capable of figuring things out. Semi-conductor technology is something that can be reasoned out using basic chemistry and physics. It mostly has to do with the valence shell of atoms.

[jj]

Originally posted by uruk
Does'nt AT&T stand for Alien Technology and Telekinesis?

I know sometimes humans can be dense critters, but we are fully capable of figuring things out. Semi-conductor technology is something that can be reasoned out using basic chemistry and physics. It mostly has to do with the valence shell of atoms.

Hey, let's not go orbital here! Your spin is really obvious, and it almost likes you're bonded to pi here! Hi, Senburg, how are you, and why aren't you sure where you are?

:)

Err, do I need the smiley? Probably!

[Ratman_tf]

It's like all the claims that technological advancements came from aliens/crashed alien tech. Like stealth technology, velcro, or fiber optics. Once you do a teeny little bit of actual research, you find out not only that people invented those things, but how, and it makes perfect sense.

My post does not belittle the question, or the poster, but his refusal to do a bare minimum of learning about the very question he posed, before assuming that aliens were involved, and linking back to a website about conspiracies and coverups. :p

[uruk]

Hey, let's not go orbital here! Your spin is really obvious, and it almost likes you're bonded to pi here! Hi, Senburg, how are you, and why aren't you sure where you are?

Well I was wondering in a cloud of probabilities and got excited
so I took a quantum jump now I'm free to join a conduction band
that has alot of potential and can play all the current tunes...OW!!OW!!!! I think i just got an anurysim.

[MRC_Hans]

Originally posted by Ladewig
The seriousness of the reply should be proportional to the seriousness of the question.

*snip*

The original question was could all this information, presented on a page with a flying saucer, be true. Before I answer, I have to loosen my belt so that monkeys can fly out of my ass. No. :roll: :big: :dl: :id:


Hans

[De_Bunk]

Whoo whoo...All aboard...

And i've no doubt that Maxell will continue posting utter bullsh** from now on...

C'mon Maxell...lets all pretend that you are the first one that has done this on the JREF...

Its so old....

Pathetic...

DB

[a_unique_person]

The start of 'Demon Haunted World' tells of the driver for Carl Sagan, and how he, despite his intelligence, was misled down all kinds of scientific dead ends by all the woo-woo information out there, such as the web page referenced at the start of this thread.

Someone actually tries to ask a question as to why this page is or is not true, and is instantly pilloried. Maybe they were just a troll, maybe they were sincere. If they were sincere, the reaction they got appears to have frightened them off for good.

We can only work on the assumption that someone is sincere, and go from there.

[Darat]

Originally posted by a_unique_person
The start of 'Demon Haunted World' tells of the driver for Carl Sagan, and how he, despite his intelligence, was misled down all kinds of scientific dead ends by all the woo-woo information out there, such as the web page referenced at the start of this thread.

Someone actually tries to ask a question as to why this page is or is not true, and is instantly pilloried. Maybe they were just a troll, maybe they were sincere. If they were sincere, the reaction they got appears to have frightened them off for good.

We can only work on the assumption that someone is sincere, and go from there.

A good sentiment.

If someone is "trolling" (whatever we mean by that) or just not willing to enter into a real debate the easiest way to “expose” this is to start a reasonable debate in a polite manner.

Let their actions expose them rather then providing them with an excuse for not debating and discussing their posts or beliefs.

[Dragon]

Originally posted by Darat


A good sentiment.

If someone is "trolling" (whatever we mean by that) or just not willing to enter into a real debate the easiest way to “expose” this is to start a reasonable debate in a polite manner.

Let their actions expose them rather then providing them with an excuse for not debating and discussing their posts or beliefs.

Lets look at Maxell's actions -

Four posts, each starting a thread.
Besides this one we have -
Mass brain implantations (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1870055460#post1870055460) - with a link to a David Icke site!

WTC "UFO" film (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1870112497#post1870112497)
and
Faster-than-light phenomenon (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1870064639#post1870064639)

The last thread, in particular, had some good posts and was taken at face value. Maxell has not replied once on any of the threads.
Hit and run troll? You be the judge.

[Ratman_tf]

BAM! (http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/digital-electronics1.htm)

And may I suggest a trip to the public library next time Maxell. Or at the very least do a google search with the word 'skeptical' added to whatever subject you're checking out. It helps to look at all sides of a situation.