Hey Kids! Vote for the Feb 2008 Stundies!

[Unsecured Coins]

Yessir, In record time, too.

First Up -

(Popular Mechanics) rebuts the point that an airplane that struck the Empire State Building did not cause a collapse by citing an expert who asserts that the Empire State Building had a far higher density per cubic foot than the trade towers ...

The implication is that, by comparison with the Empire State Building, the towers were flimsy. However, what PM ... fails to understand is that density is virtually irrelevant. In general, the less mass there is higher up, the less mass is required lower down to hold up the structure. This means that if the upper block falls into the lower one, the energy ratios for a trade tower versus the Empire State Building would be equivalent -- because the densities cancel out!


Number Next -

Well, I don't think it quite applies as readily as some think.

If a plane hit my house everyday, eventually a baked cake would most likely eventually appear.....ie, evolution (good mutations, genetic drift, etc, etc)


Dale Senior -

I also have noticed a military background problem here too. These people are clearly unaware that they have been psychological conditioned and are weak egos being driven by cognitive dissonance.


El Quatro

If Danny Jowenko is right about WTC7 being a same day, non-pre-planned controlled demolition, then there's been a suspicious coverup of a major crime involving people in high places.

If Danny Jowenko is wrong about WTC7 being a same day, non-pre-planned controlled demolition, then it points to the events of 9/11 being an inside job.


5 Is Right Out

Also, why didn't firemen try to catch any of the jumpers in nets or air bags?

I don't know-- having nets or airbags would seem to be rather obvious standard operating procedure for a skyscraper fire.



The Number of Brady Children (the show, not the football player)

The difference being of course...if I'm wrong, no crimes have been committed.


Deadly Sins

I think some one has messed with your 9-11evidence... All I go to see was a 1980s video music clip..Perhaps Big Brother & the PATRIOT Act has kicked in..


Enough!

Why do they need DEMO experts to prove to them how the buildings came down that doesnt make any sense!!!!


Largest Single Digit in the World

The only difference between a taser and 9mm is that one isn't visible until an autopsy.


KO'd

If several DIME 250 kgs bombs were planted in WTC by criminal perpetrators as part of an inside job, you only need one at every 3rd floor i.e. total say 30 or 40 to get the expected result!! Quite a lot 7500-10000 kgs but easy to smuggle in in paper boxes one at a time. Quick installation job, thus.


Eleventy

WTC-1 collapsed symmetrically into its own footprint and right on top of WTC-6, but that building did NOT suffer any collapse.


the Dirty Dozen

What physical evidence?

Photos of a few scraps do not constitute "physical evidence".


The Baker's Dozen

Anyone who has studied the collapses in depth would be an expert on the collapses


2 More Than A Dozen

Yes, Cisco is absolutely right in what he said. But considering who said it, it's laughable.

So, you see, you can't cover up a ugly smelly turd with fancy postings.


Fiteen!

This is the story of the century, Tony, and you're stopped in your tracks after one call to customer service?

Don't forget I e-mailed them also.


Driver's License

It's amusing to see people completely deluding themselves that they are making a difference.

[Edx]

If a plane hit my house everyday, eventually a baked cake would most likely eventually appear.....ie, evolution (good mutations, genetic drift, etc, etc)

LOL> clealy understands evolution well.

[dudalb]

Dale Senior by a mile. Having served in the US Army, I love being told I am a mindless robot.

[Arus808]

?? usually a poll/vote is tied to this ^_~

[Metullus]

Huh? No poll?

[novice skeptic]

So many choices. I'll go with the inarguable logic of El Quatro.

[Unsecured Coins]

?? usually a poll/vote is tied to this ^_~

nobody's first time is perfect. Just ask Dylan

[Mr.Herbert]

I had to go with the tower netting. Although it's a terrible visual.....it sums up the truthers in one short post.

[steve s]

This has to be the weakest month in quite a while. Let's hope that means the movement is on its last breath.

I had to go with MirageMemories' quote about Jowenko. It nicely captures the religious nature of the movement. Just as fundies like to say that no matter what happens it's god's will, the troofers inevitably reach the conclusion of an inside job regardless of the evidence.

Steve S.

[Loss Leader]

I almost voted for Terrall, but I kind of got an idea of the point he was trying to make.

Spooked911, on the other hand, is just insane no matter how generously you read it.

[Arus808]

The tower netting for me...

[rwguinn]

First time in my life I voted in favor of Sasquatch...

[Hokulele]

I voted for MM as he clearly shows how impossible it is for the TM to be wrong.

[Foolmewunz]

Heiwa.... just 'cuz I love the vision of 10 tons of bombs being carried into the towers in cardboard cartons. You couldn't do deliveries to the towers without documentation (I worked there for over ten years), so they'd have to be in really small cartons, e.g. that would fit in your backpack or brief case. I'd make that about 10/15 kg per carton, maximum. A mere 750 to 1000 hand-carries over a month, and in buildings where they had sniffer-dogs patrolling!

[mortimer]

Man, MM's Jowenko quip is SO good, but I had to go with the netting.

[Horatius]

I almost voted for Terrall, but I kind of got an idea of the point he was trying to make.




But, he self-debunks himself in one line! And doesn't even realize it!

[Walter Ego]

The tower netting for me...


That one got my vote too and it's leading in the voting.

[Brainache]

I voted for the "well you're right, but I don't like you so you're wrong" one.

Just so Truthy.

[Christopher7]

Hey KIDS

How terribly appropriate.

Have you any idea how banal your adolescent insult fest is?

[Dave Rogers]

Have you any idea how banal your adolescent insult fest is?

Yes. That's why it's fun.

I'm going for Terral, because of the sheer desperation that leads him to make two mutually exclusive claims in the same sentence, despite the beauty of MirageMemories's classic example of the truther heads-I-win-tails-you-lose proof.

Dave

[Travis]

I voted for Terral too. Debunking oneself in the same sentence as your claim is just so.......special.

[Mobyseven]

The idea that if there was no inside job there was no crime takes a really special kind of stupid...

[timhau]

Apparently I'm the only one who voted for the What makes an expert stundie. It's just so darn telling. No need for any kind of groundwork or basics, just dive right in and before you know it, you'll absorb all sorts of expertise through osmosis.

[Dave Rogers]

Apparently I'm the only one who voted for the What makes an expert stundie. It's just so darn telling. No need for any kind of groundwork or basics, just dive right in and before you know it, you'll absorb all sorts of expertise through osmosis.

I dunno, I think this was kind of a meta-Stundie. Anyone who actually studies the collapses in depth would have to do a large amount of basic learning about structures, statics, failure mechanisms, demolition techniques, properties of explosives, behaviour of fires, and a whole raft of related disciplines, and then review the physical evidence carefully and thoroughly to inform any conclusions to be drawn. By this time they might well be approaching the level of expert. I think the original poster's real mental error was failing to understand the difference between all the above and watching YouTube.

Dave

[timhau]

Hey, YouTube is research.

[Cuddles]

I had to vote for cake. I know what he was trying to get at, but he really did fail quite miserably at actually understanding any of it. It got my vote mainly because now I can't get the picture of cakes magically appearing whenever something crashes out of my head. Yay! Cake!

I almost voted for Terrall, but I kind of got an idea of the point he was trying to make.

What, that WTC1 was built on top of WTC6?

Hey KIDS

How terribly appropriate.

Have you any idea how banal your adolescent insult fest is?

Insult fest? It's hardly an insult to quote things that people have said. The fact that they're particularly stupid things that make us laugh isn't our fault.

[Travis]

I have to admit that I did almost vote for MM's example of everything proving an inside job no matter what. Ain't nothing like a good old presumption of guilt is there?

[eromitlab]

Went for #7. Ignorance of the rickroll fits with truthers' ignorance of... well, everything.

[Mr.D]

#16 --> "Look at me," screamed the dust mote. "I'm important!"

(Note: Id didn't look up the source of the quote until after I decided. It's a little telling how I was guessing it was a true newbie poster until I did.)

[Unsecured Coins]

Hey KIDS

How terribly appropriate.

Have you any idea how banal your adolescent insult fest is?


Everyone who was offended that I said "Kids" in the title, Please raise your hand.

[Silentknight]

I just had to go with the one about why the firefighters didn't try to catch the people who leapt from the top floors of the towers. It perfectly illustrates in how little regard truthers actually hold the victims of 9/11. I'm surprised that truther didn't say those people could have saved themselves by flapping their arms on the way down.

[OneShotKi11]

I had to choose tower netting....

Priceless!

[jaydeehess]

I almost voted for Terrall, but I kind of got an idea of the point he was trying to make.

Spooked911, on the other hand, is just insane no matter how generously you read it.


It was a real toss up between the two for me but I had to go with Terral for the sheer internal inconsistency.

Spooked just lives in a cartoon physics world.

My all time fav is the head shaking RedIbis quote in my sig.

[jaydeehess]

Hey KIDS

How terribly appropriate.

Have you any idea how banal your adolescent insult fest is?
Now Chris, it not our fault, or yours, that stupid things get said.

Its just dammed funny.

Take heart, you get on the list less often than many others.

[defaultdotxbe]

i had to go with #7, you really cant get much more paranoid than to think the government is rickrolling you

[jaydeehess]

Hey, YouTube is research.

and research is youtube.

see the youtube,,,, be the youtube

youtube is all seeing, youtube is all knowing

gaze upon youtube and all will be revealed

worship no other research than the one true youtube


Am I being obtuse?

[Quad4_72]

Hey unsecured coins, it would be much easier to follow who said what if you put their name by your cute little way of saying numbers. Thanks!

[leonAzul]

Heiwa does it for me. The notion of delivering and hiding 750 10 kg cardboard boxes over 30 floors rapidly and clandestinely cannot possible be considered realistic.

[Foolmewunz]

Everyone who was offended that I said "Kids" in the title, Please raise your hand.

I would, but I'm sitting in the corner doing a "time out" because I was chewing gum in the Politics forum.

[Dave Rogers]

I would, but I'm sitting in the corner doing a "time out" because I was chewing gum in the Politics forum.

Did the socialists ask whether you'd brought enough for everybody?

Dave

[rwguinn]

bumpbecause its Important!

[ihaunter]

I think the footprint statement is a classic example of a CTist obsession with buzzwords. He just had to use the "within it's own footprint" phrase, regardless of meaning, because it implies CD. Got my vote.

[defaultdotxbe]

Heiwa does it for me. The notion of delivering and hiding 750 10 kg cardboard boxes over 30 floors rapidly and clandestinely cannot possible be considered realistic.
its even worse, the bombs he proposes smuggling in in cardboard boxes arent 10kg, they are 250kg

[Silentknight]

its even worse, the bombs he proposes smuggling in in cardboard boxes arent 10kg, they are 250kg

Yeah, but remember that these are the same people who think that the plane debris at the Pentagon (which would include the landing gear) was light enough to be carried away by hand. :rolleyes:

[Almo]

I voted for the evolution quote. It supports the statement that strong woo is indistinguishable from parody. Looks like someone parodying evolution deniers.

[Unsecured Coins]

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We are gathered here today to honor spooked911, who has brought a great amount of laughter into our lives. Through dedicated research spooked911 has provided yet another example of an object denser than a singularity.

" Also, why didn't firemen try to catch any of the jumpers in nets or air bags?

I don't know-- having nets or airbags would seem to be rather obvious standard operating procedure for a skyscraper fire."

We gather tonight to award The Stundie. The Stundie is the sister award to the Darwin: for those who refuse to remove themselves from the gene pool by accident, but will make it their lifetime goal to poison it.

We thank you, spooked911, and hope that you continue to post your comments on this or any other subject, using your gift for inadvertent comedy as a lesson to all of us here at the NWO.

To receive The Stundie is one of the most profound honours offered by the members of the JREF Conspiracy Theory Subforum, and one which in your case is well earned. Many attempt The Stundie, few attain it. You, spooked911, have marked yourself as one deserving such an award.


Congratulations and Mazel Tov!

[Mobyseven]

Curious...I was the only person to vote for the 'terrorism is not a crime' option.

[defaultdotxbe]

Curious...I was the only person to vote for the 'terrorism is not a crime' option.
retirement just doesnt come with the same influence as being a tyrant

BTW its a total crock yaluobud only got 4 votes, how could someone so paranoid he thinks the government is responsible for him getting rickrolled not win????

i think our new keeper of the stundies is stuffing the ballot boxes! :p

[Mobyseven]

i think our new keeper of the stundies is stuffing the ballot boxes! :p

Hey, if it worked in the past, why change it? :p

[Sizzler]

ah man!!!!!!!!!!!! I never win anything! oh well, there is always next month!:)

[realitybites]

I'm actually glad to see Spooked win. He may not have always gotten a nomination, but his potential was never in question.

He's like the Susan Lucci of truthers.

Congrats, my friend!

PS - .... There's someone at your back door....