Seeking Recordings of 9/11 Cell Calls

[mrwronggt13]

I'm completely unable to find recordings of 9/11 cell phone calls. Can anyone please link to them?

Thanks.

[rwguinn]

I'm completely unable to find recordings of 9/11 cell phone calls. Can anyone please link to them?

Thanks.
That is likely because the content of those calls, just like what is on CVR's, is
none of your damn business!
our laws do respect privacy, regardless of the CT and troofers desires.

[johnny karate]

Yes, rwguinn, but don't you understand? mrwrong needs to hear those recordings so he can be convinced that they are real. Otherwise, he might not believe us, and then what ever will we do?

[firecoins]

go to itunes! I found plenty of 911 calls from the Twin Towers to 911 and FD to dispatch. They back the realty of 9/11 and not the "troof movement"

[Arus808]

privacy laws dude. you know the laws that prevents joe schmoe from seeing that you call the local phone sex line often.

[Walter Ego]

I'm completely unable to find recordings of 9/11 cell phone calls. Can anyone please link to them?

Thanks.

Some of the calls were released by the government after the Moussaoui trial.

See items P200054, P200055 and P200056

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution.html

[fezzic]

Most cell phone calls were not recorded. I would think that most of the recipients lacked the capacity, or the presence of mind, to make a recording. Hence, you have to ask people (the recipients) what they remembered of the calls.

From those that were recorded, such as 911 calls, they are probably few and far between -- probably privacy concerns for next of kin -- insofar as their being released to the public. The only cell phone call, that was released or is available, at least I presume it was from a cell phone, I can recall off hand is the one in SLC, I think it was, of the guy trapped in the South Tower talking to the 911 operator who was still talking to the operator when the tower collapsed.

[Unsecured Coins]

privacy laws dude. you know the laws that prevents joe schmoe from seeing that you call the local phone sex line often.

thank god for that too. Not that i would know or anything. Just like knowing it's there

[Kahalachan]

That is likely because the content of those calls, just like what is on CVR's, is
none of your damn business!
our laws do respect privacy, regardless of the CT and troofers desires.

Besides Truther morons would just call it acting and dismiss the calls as evidence. Which would be a huge insult to the person crying to their family that they have only a few minutes to live.

[mrwronggt13]

Wow! Touched a nerve, seems. Didn't mean to. Big bold letters and all.

I'm mostly interested in the cell calls and/or airphone calls from the "planes".

Any recordings of those?

[MIKILLINI]

I'm completely unable to find recordings of 9/11 cell phone calls. Can anyone please link to them?

Thanks.

Why?

[MIKILLINI]

Wow! Touched a nerve, seems. Didn't mean to. Big capital bold letters and all.

I'm mostly interested in the cell calls and/or airphone calls from the "planes".

Any recordings of those?

Why?

[Magenta]

Wow! Touched a nerve, seems. Didn't mean to. Big capital bold letters and all.

I'm mostly interested in the cell calls and/or airphone calls from the "planes".

Any recordings of those?


Why do you put the word planes in inverted commas? Are you a no-planer?

[mrwronggt13]

I'm doing research.

[funk de fino]

I'm doing research.

No, you're not. You are cracking one off

[cisco]

I'm mostly interested in the cell calls and/or airphone calls from the "planes".

Disgusting. Edited for civility

[Magenta]

Hmm, no reply to my question, but it's easy enough to check and, yes, he is a no planer; the lowest of the low, IMO:

No-planes is not disinfo. There are several fundamental proofs of video fakery and no planes which have only been avoided and dismissed, but never addressed with evidence and logic. There has been ample time and opportunity for such to be forthcoming.

1. No plane in the wide shot of Chopper 5.

This, and this alone, is conclusive proof of no plane at WTC2, and of video compositing.

There is much much more, but #1 is enough to answer the question in the OP. No planes is the head of the snake.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I'm doing research.

It would help us if you could tell us exactly what you are looking for and what you hope to discover.

[HENTAI DOUKYUSEI JP]

No, you're not. You are cracking one off

no...really.....
This is what twoofers call research..........

[1337m4n]

Wow! Touched a nerve, seems. Didn't mean to. Big bold letters and all.

I'm mostly interested in the cell calls and/or airphone calls from the "planes".

Any recordings of those?

I can't stop cracking up over the fact that he put "planes" in quotations.

Does that make me a bad person?

:dl:

[1337m4n]

I'm doing research.

What have you found out so far?

[chillzero]

Keep it civil here please, and on topic. Do not attack the poster, but instead address the topic.

[timhau]

I'm doing research.

No, you're posting on an internet forum and asking other people to find stuff for you.

[LastChild]

privacy laws dude. you know the laws that prevents joe schmoe from seeing that you call the local phone sex line often.

Privacy laws dude? Yeah what a laugh...

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/02/bush-no-comprom.html

"I would just tell you there's no compromise on whether these phone companies get liability protection," Bush said aboard Air Force One, Reuters reports "The American people understand we need to be listening to the enemy."

[David Wong]

Privacy laws dude? Yeah what a laugh...

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/02/bush-no-comprom.html

"I would just tell you there's no compromise on whether these phone companies get liability protection," Bush said aboard Air Force One, Reuters reports "The American people understand we need to be listening to the enemy."

So you're not in favor of privacy laws?

[Minadin]

I'm completely unable to find recordings of 9/11 cell phone calls. Can anyone please link to them?

Thanks.

Here's one that's been released, it's Kevin Cosgrove's call to 911 from one of the upper floors of tower 2.

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/P200017.html

It's part of the extensive list of evidence from the Moussaoui trial that's been made available to the public.

Listener / viewer discretion is advised at the above link, and I have to agree. The phone call and video are quite disturbing.

[LastChild]

So you're not in favor of privacy laws?

My post was sarcasm. Was your question?

[Brainster]

Wow! Touched a nerve, seems. Didn't mean to. Big bold letters and all.

I'm mostly interested in the cell calls and/or airphone calls from the "planes".

Any recordings of those?

Alleged planes, you mean? Actually the Moussaoui trial evidence contains the only two recorded calls I know of from the planes: Cee Cee Lyles call to her husband and Betty Ong's call to American Airlines. It's in a flash animation that includes details on the "alleged" planes including the seat locations of the "passengers" and "hijackers".

[LastChild]

Alleged planes, you mean? Actually the Moussaoui trial evidence contains the only two recorded calls I know of from the planes: Cee Cee Lyles call to her husband and Betty Ong's call to American Airlines. It's in a flash animation that includes details on the "alleged" planes including the seat locations of the "passengers" and "hijackers".

Were those cell phones? I mean is there a difference between personal cell phones and the airplane phones? I don't know I'm asking.

[twinstead]

The testimonies of people who received phone calls from the planes is out there in the public domain for all to see. 'no planers' (and I use that term with all due DISRESPECT) think they are all lying or were fooled.

It's disgusting.

[Minadin]

Alleged planes, you mean? Actually the Moussaoui trial evidence contains the only two recorded calls I know of from the planes: Cee Cee Lyles call to her husband and Betty Ong's call to American Airlines. It's in a flash animation that includes details on the "alleged" planes including the seat locations of the "passengers" and "hijackers".

Link to that animation:
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/flights/P200018.html

Also, there was a phone call from Melissa Doi included in the evidence:
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/P200016.html

Actually, why not browse all this stuff for yourself, mrwrong? It's all available:
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution.html

[Brainster]

Were those cell phones? I mean is there a difference between personal cell phones and the airplane phones? I don't know I'm asking.

Both recorded calls were Airfone calls. I believe Lyles also used her cellphone later and actually talked to her husband. The only reason her earlier call was recorded was because it was picked up by the answering machine.

[LastChild]

Both recorded calls were Airfone calls. I believe Lyles also used her cellphone later and actually talked to her husband. The only reason her earlier call was recorded was because it was picked up by the answering machine.

Why are some calls from 9/11 private and others available like Cosgrove's? Is it up to the family or is it just a matter of who actually has a recording of it? Cosgrove's is from police dispatch I imagine, and you said Lyles is from an answering machine. Where would one find a recording of a private cell phone call to a private home?

[WildCat]

Where would one find a recording of a private cell phone call to a private home?
Tell me LC, do you record your phone calls home?

[LastChild]

Tell me LC, do you record your phone calls home?

No.

[Pardalis]

I'm completely unable to find recordings of 9/11 cell phone calls. Can anyone please link to them?

Thanks.

So you can mock and defame and insult the memory of these poor innocent people?

NFW

[kookbreaker]

I'm doing research. Where can I hear truther's cell phone calls? Can someone give me links?

[uk_dave]

I'm doing research. Where can I hear truther's cell phone calls? Can someone give me links?

You prevert, you!

[WildCat]

No.
So why would you expect those calls to be recorded?

[kookbreaker]

You prevert, you!

No. I am doing research. If I say I am doing research then what is the problem? Gimmie some links to them.

[LastChild]

So why would you expect those calls to be recorded?

I don't. That's why I'm asking. Isn't the OP looking for recordings?

[ImaginalDisc]

No. I am doing research. If I say I am doing research then what is the problem? Gimmie some links to them.

Don't you mean "truthers?"

I'm a "no-truther."

[WildCat]

Isn't the OP looking for recordings?
I responded to your question...

[kookbreaker]

Don't you mean "truthers?"

I'm a "no-truther."

What's the problem? I just want some links to the cell phone calls of truthers. I'm doing research. What is the problem? Give me links.

[SDC]

Note that Mrwrongt13 seems to want the actual recordings, not transcripts. This is in keeping with the general Truther approach; not to trust anyone, but to assume that they -- the lone kid with his Google -- will miraculously discover truth that was overlooked or suppressed.

I blame that movie... "Blow-Up"? Not the new one, the earlier one, which was much better. Antonini, I think.

[mrwronggt13]

It would help us if you could tell us exactly what you are looking for and what you hope to discover.

I am looking for any recordings that may have been made of the cell/airphone calls allegedly placed from 9/11 airplanes.

A good deal was written about the calls - whether they were even possible, were they faked, was voice morphing technology used, etc. I hope to discover whether or not there is even anything much to explain.

[slyjoe]

I am looking for any recordings that may have been made of the cell/airphone calls allegedly placed from 9/11 airplanes.

A good deal was written about the calls - whether they were even possible, were they faked, was voice morphing technology used, etc. I hope to discover whether or not there is even anything much to explain.

I'm confused - how would recordings help you?

[fezzic]

Why are some calls from 9/11 private and others available like Cosgrove's? Is it up to the family or is it just a matter of who actually has a recording of it? Cosgrove's is from police dispatch I imagine, and you said Lyles is from an answering machine. Where would one find a recording of a private cell phone call to a private home?



Some were made to private individuals and others made to organizations such as airlines and emergency services. It is up to the individuals (assuming they had the capability to make a recording) or the organization (with concerns as may exist relative to privacy -- after all a 911 call might be, for instance, embarassing or such to the family or individual involved) whether any recordings are released.

There would be no recording of a personal cell phone call to a private home unless 1) the caller left voice mail, 2) the caller left a message on an answering machine, or 3) the recipient had some kind of recording device handy or available. Otherwise the best one might get is that such and such a cell phone called such and such a home telephone. (again) If the recipient had no capacity to make a recording the only record of what transpired would be in the memory of the recipient.

[Magenta]

Was there any controversy over the recordings (as opposed to transcripts) of the calls from the planes and buildings being made public? I can understand why they would have been used at the trial or made available to family members and possibly accredited researchers, but why disseminate them on the internet.

I know that if it was anyone close to me making those calls I would not want the recording made public, and especially not for morons to pore over.

[MIKILLINI]

I'm confused - how would recordings help you?

I am a bit confused as well.
If one suspects recordings are faked, how could you find out? Compare it with another recording believed to have not been faked from the same flight?

[Arus808]

and i dont know why he thinks that the "cell" phones would be recorded, since many of the connections dropped because of the changing of the cel towers as the planes flew.

those Airphones conversations that were recorded, by those who contacted the operator before being connected to the ones that they wanted to speak to.

those that who used the airphones and called directly to whomever they wanted to reach, were of course, not recorded.

[rwguinn]

and i dont know why he thinks that the "cell" phones would be recorded, since many of the connections dropped because of the changing of the cel towers as the planes flew.

those Airphones conversations that were recorded, by those who contacted the operator before being connected to the ones that they wanted to speak to.

those that who used the airphones and called directly to whomever they wanted to reach, were of course, not recorded.

Because the E_vile Bush administration has been recording everybody's cell phone calls since they stole the presidency. Dincha know that?

[mrwronggt13]

Step one is documenting the existence/non-existence of recordings of each call.

I haven't had a chance to download the linked ones from the Moussaoui "trial",but thank you for the link. I will get it tomorrow.

Absence of a recording doesn't prove the call wasn't made, of course. But a transcript doesn't prove it was.

[timhau]

I'm confused - how would recordings help you?

My guess:

If recordings can't be found quickly by asking for them in a discussion forum, it's proof they don't exist which, in turn, proves that there were no planes.

[LashL]

Don't.
Feed.
The.
Troll(s).


Seriously, this thread should have and could have legitimately ended at post #2, and in any event ought not to have proceeded beyond post #10.


Just saying.

[Arus808]

Step one is documenting the existence/non-existence of recordings of each call.

already done. what's your point?

[CptColumbo]

I'm confused - how would recordings help you?
I'm confused, where would the recordings come from. Do airplanes also record the conversations on airphones? Wouldn't that be illegal? Or are you speaking of the messages left?

[twinstead]

Absence of a recording doesn't prove the call wasn't made, of course. But a transcript doesn't prove it was.

If there is no recording made, then a transcript coupled with a record that the phone call was placed, does indeed 'prove' it was. Unless of course you can show some kind of evidence the records were falsified or the people in the transcripts are lying.

You can't just dismiss any evidence that doesn't suit your opinion by a quick wave of the hand like that. In this case you're demanding something that you know doesn't exist--or cannot exist--be produced, even though the evidence that DOES exist is something that ANY rational person (or jury) would accept, just so you can deny evidence that is uncomfortable to you. LOL. It's almost like you learned this technique from Conspiracy Theorist 101.

THIS is how investigations work, not this biased, incredulous crap you do.

[mrwronggt13]

If there was no recording, from what was the transcript made?

[mrwronggt13]

I'm confused, where would the recordings come from. Do airplanes also record the conversations on airphones? Wouldn't that be illegal? Or are you speaking of the messages left?

Recordings could come from:

1. 911
2. GTE, e.g. the Todd Beamer - Lisa Jefferson call
3. The solicitor generals office

[applecorped]

Recalled memory perhaps?

[tsig]

If there was no recording, from what was the transcript made?

Do you like to go to funerals and stick mics in the grieving families faces?

[tsig]

I'm completely unable to find recordings of 9/11 cell phone calls. Can anyone please link to them?

Thanks.


Prove it to me as I lay slugabed.

Pathetic!!

[applecorped]

How could there be transcripts of cell phone calls? The technology wouldn't allow for it...I mean there was no one on the planes anyway, they were remote controlled..I mean there were no planes..I mean...What the hell do I mean?

[Bananaman]

I've been sad enough to listen to one of the calls from the passenger jet that crashed in Shanksville. It didn't cheer me up.

I've read through the crap arguments that it was shot down and that airphones and cellphones weren't used. It disgusts me to be honest.

Just ask the people from the 'we know what really happened' brigade if they'd like to confront the relatives of the dead passengers who took the phonecalls with their "you weren't listening to your loved ones on the phone actually" stuff.

Some of them would.

It makes me sick. Sorry.

Bananaman.

[peteweaver]

I'm completely unable to find recordings of 9/11 cell phone calls. Can anyone please link to them?

Thanks.

As someone else said, those phone calls are none of your business (or mine).

If you were injured in a car crash, phoned your wife to say goodbye and gasped your last breath to your wife, knowing that you wouldn't get out of the burning wreckage alive, should the details of your conversation be private / or not?

So if you were on a hijacked plane, and knew that the hijackers intended a kamikaze crash, and you phoned your wife to say goodbye, should the details of your conversation be private / or not?
Should the conversation have been illicitly and illegally recorded ?

How do you think the widows of the victims feel, when complete morons say that the phone calls were faked ? Personally I'd be extremely angry and upset.

[Lensman]

I'd be more than extremely angry & upset, I'd be bloody furious & would have to be held back by several strong people who think enough of me to keep me from a murder charge!

[twinstead]

It doesn't surprise me that most truthers just assume the phone calls are faked without a second thought about the fact that actual people received those calls, many of them from somebody whom they'd know very very well.

We know why they do it; these phone calls are very inconvenient to their delusions.

[mrwronggt13]

You 9/11 deniers are the ones making all the assumptions. I'm simply trying to determine which phone calls were recorded, if any, and to obtain copies of those recordings, if any, for research purposes.

I can appreciate that emotions run high. Science doesn't care. Science cannot care. Science is simply a search for the truth, irrespective of feelings.

[twinstead]

You 9/11 deniers are the ones making all the assumptions. I'm simply trying to determine which phone calls were recorded, if any, and to obtain copies of those recordings, if any, for research purposes.


BS. We KNOW what you believe. We KNOW your world view. We KNOW you think 911 was an inside job. If those phone calls are legitimate, it puts a BIG hole into your theory. You are disguising this fact in the standard 'just asking questions' crap you people love.

You desperately want those calls to be fake but they aren't; the lack of recordings is the rational loophole you are looking for to ignore them.

Do you think we're idiots?

[applecorped]

mrwronggt13, I could be wrong but I suspect you don't have children. As a parent I find it laughable to suggest that I wouldn't know my child's voice on a phone call let alone personal information and certain inflections in the voice.

[slyjoe]

BS. We KNOW what you believe. We KNOW your world view. We KNOW you think 911 was an inside job. If those phone calls are legitimate, it puts a BIG hole into your theory. You are disguising this fact in the standard 'just asking questions' crap you people love.

You desperately want those calls to be fake but they aren't; the lack of recordings is the rational loophole you are looking for to ignore them.

Do you think we're idiots?

I echo this.

mrwronggt13: Let's say there are recordings. What type of "research" would they help? You didn't answer this the first time I asked. What do you need the recordings for in your "research"?

[kookbreaker]

You 9/11 deniers are the ones making all the assumptions. I'm simply trying to determine which phone calls were recorded, if any, and to obtain copies of those recordings, if any, for research purposes.

I can appreciate that emotions run high. Science doesn't care. Science cannot care. Science is simply a search for the truth, irrespective of feelings.

Can you please send links to recordings of the phone calls that you have made over the past few months? I'm doing research. Its for science.

[applecorped]

mrwronggt13, science may not care but scientists do. They don't continue to follow false leads, especially when so many victims are involved.

[WildCat]

Science doesn't care. Science cannot care. Science is simply a search for the truth, irrespective of feelings.
You reject science when it comes to your claim that the WTC was destroyed by mini-nukes, so why do you suddenly embrace it now?

[Mr.Herbert]

No, you're not. You are cracking one off


Is that the same as Punching the Rat?

[twinstead]

Is that the same as Punching the Rat?

Dude. Your avatar. It burns....

[BenBurch]

Were those cell phones? I mean is there a difference between personal cell phones and the airplane phones? I don't know I'm asking.

Nope.

No legal difference at all.

And I know something of the structure of the Airfone network as my ex worked there; They did not record anything, not even the calls to customer service operators, and had no capability to do so INTENTIONALLY. They never considered that something like 9/11 would fall in their laps; They were just struggling to stay afloat as a company.

[Mr.Herbert]

sorry, i have a thing for Rosie O'Donuts. :hypnotize

[Myriad]

Post removed as off topic and inappropriate to thread.

[ImaginalDisc]

What's the problem? I just want some links to the cell phone calls of truthers. I'm doing research. What is the problem? Give me links.

There are no truthers at all, sheep. They constantly accuse one another of being shills to cover up the fact that they're all shills. It's a brilliant government false flag operation to reveal precisely how they committed 9/11 - by presenting it so stupidly that no one could possibly take the idea seriously.

You're in on it, too.