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Malachi151
30th September 2003, 05:08 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/29/1064819874060.html

An orgy involving 400 Japanese tourists and 500 Chinese prostitutes on the anniversary of Japan's 1931 invasion of China has triggered a growing row between the two countries.

Anti-Japanese feelings are running high in China as news spread of the sex romp at a luxury hotel in Zhuhai, a coastal town near the southern city of Guangdong.

Outraged Chinese official media reported that the Japanese male tourists - aged between 16 and 37 - engaged in a three-day orgy beginning on September 16, with about 500 local prostitutes.

A police spokeswoman for Guangdong province said some suspects had been detained. "We don't know if they include Japanese tourists," she said on Monday.

Responding to the growing anger, the Chinese Government has suggested the Japanese Government teach its people how to behave. "This case is of an extremely odious nature," said Kong Quan, a spokesman for China's Foreign Ministry. "Foreign citizens in China must abide by Chinese laws. We hope the Japanese Government will improve their citizens' education about this."

The Beijing Youth Daily reported that the men flew into the city and booked into the Zhuhai International Convention Centre Hotel purely for sex.

Shocked hotel guests reported lurid scenes on the night of September 16, when the prostitutes arrived. In the lobby, the Japanese tourists were hugging and grabbing the women, while others groped them in the elevators on the way up to rooms.

The Youth Daily said that when one of the Japanese men was asked why they were in Zhuhai, he replied: "We have come to play with Chinese girls!"

But many Chinese suspect a motive other than sex. They claimed via internet chatrooms that the men chose the date of the orgy - the anniversary of the Mukden Incident, which led to imperial Japan's invasion of China. "The Japanese are animals," said one contribution to a chatroom. "They deliberately selected the date to humiliate the Chinese people."

Ian Osborne
30th September 2003, 05:13 AM
I wonder if Genghis was involved?

Voob
30th September 2003, 05:29 AM
I've been reading about this on the web for a couple days now. Funny, I haven't seen anything about it at all in the Japanese papers. Talk about self censorship...

I strongly doubt that this was timed to coincide with the anniversary of the beginning of the Japanese occupation of China. Why? Because I'd bet that not one of the guests is even aware of that date. Bygones...
Like trying to find one person under 30 who knows what "Nanking" is.

A couple weeks ago was the 80th anniversary of the great Tokyo quake that killed 120,000 people. After the quake there was a "rumour" that local residents of Korean origin were going to poison the water supply. The govenments reaction? They went around shooting Koreans in Tokyo--an estimated 6000 of them. Try to find any Japanese who have heard about that either...

Selective education.

Clancie
30th September 2003, 05:31 AM
Well, not to be nit-picky, but I wouldn't call it a Japanese/Chinese orgy. It was a Japanese orgy--with Japanese tourists using hired Chinese prostitutes (including some children).
Posted by Ian Osbourne

I wonder if Genghis was involved?
I don't think he qualifies for this one, but I also couldn't help noticing the coincidence that its the province he's living in.....
Posted by Voob

The govenments reaction? They went around shooting Koreans in Tokyo--an estimated 6000 of them. Try to find any Japanese who have heard about that either...
:confused:

Do you have a source for this? It sounds....highly unlikely.

shuize
30th September 2003, 05:50 AM
It sounds ... highly unlikely

But I've heard it as well: http://www.kimsoft.com/2003/kanto-1923-massacre.htm

Not only that, the mayor of Tokyo caused a minor controversy (minor because only the foreign residents of Japan cared) by suggesting that if a similar earthquake were to take place today, it would be a good idea to round up the foreigners ... to prevent rioting.

http://www2.gol.com/users/coynerhm/reflection_of_ishihara_mentality.htm

*edited to add links (there are lots more. Try your own search on Tokyo earthquake Koreans Killed)

Voob
30th September 2003, 05:58 AM
Kaihara Hakuko, a noted artist,Ê had witnessed the Kanto Massacre when she was 27 and sketched a masscre scene of Koreans being killed by uniformed soldiers and civilian mobs. (http://www.kimsoft.com/2003/kanto-1923-massacre.htm)

Understanding the Anti-Korean Riots of 1923
(http://www.tsujiru.net/compass/compass_1996/reg/hatari_imai_watanabe.htm)

A couple mistakes I should point out--- The killings seemed to have been perpetrated by the military, police and armed civilians independently of government orders. Also, apparantly most were not shot, but clubbed or speared. I've heard of severed heads being paraded on spears, but that's anecdotal.

It was a Japanese orgy--with Japanese tourists using hired Chinese prostitutes (including some children).

Sources please? :cool:

Clancie
30th September 2003, 06:55 AM
Voob,

Thanks for the reference about Koreans in Japan. And, you're right, I can't find anything to back up the "child" prostitution part (Japanese referring repeatedly to "girls" probably gave me that impression, but I can't actually find any mention of the ages of the prostitutes, only of the men).

Given the circumstances of the "orgy", I'll be surprised if there weren't some "girls" in their early teens, but you're right, that's just my conjecture at this point, nothing factual to support it.

Malachi151
30th September 2003, 07:01 AM
Technically speaking "children" are defined as pre-pubescent people.

Jon_in_london
30th September 2003, 07:04 AM
Whats Nanking? Is that like, playing with yourself in China?
Something like felching?

Voob
30th September 2003, 05:51 PM
This article (http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/asia/story/0,4386,212399,00.html) says that the Japanese media is giving "prominent coverage" to the story. I guess I just missed it...

Tony
30th September 2003, 07:06 PM
Malachi, am I to assume you will be attending this orgy?:D

American
30th September 2003, 07:24 PM
Things are really different over there, huh? If this had happened here, you know how many people would be in jail right now... but since multiculturalism preaches tolerance, we're supposed to laugh it off as a silly story. Oh yeah-- the real issue is the DATE they selected, because it's an insult to chinese history....

That's really how liberals see it. They don't seem to care that 500 girls whored themselves and probably a third of them have AIDS by now.