Here we go... another false flag attack

[Graham2001]

A small explosive device rocked New York's Times Square early today, causing minor damage to a military recruiting station.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4398877&page=1

I wonder just how long it's going to take before troofers claim that this is yet another 'false flag' attack to distract people from the war in Iraq?

More likely the bomber is some idiot trying to get the 'proletarian revelation' off the ground.

[Sizzler]

A small explosive device rocked New York's Times Square early today, causing minor damage to a military recruiting station.

I don't think this will attract much attention or even claims of a false falg.

I do find the wording a little humorous though. How can a small explosive that didn't cause any injuries and only shattered a bit of glass be characterized as an explosive that "rocked NY Times Square"?

[Good Lt]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4398877&page=1

I wonder just how long it's going to take before troofers claim that this is yet another 'false flag' attack to distract people from the war in Iraq?

More likely the bomber is some idiot trying to get the 'proletarian revelation' off the ground.

Not to try to enflame political differences here, but there are those on the paranoid left already claiming this is an undercover Rovian FBI/CIA plot to make the antiwar movement look bad. (http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/3/6/73057/39935/18#c18)
It’s nothng [sic] new for the right to CAUSE or INCITE the violence, or to trigger arranged mob responses, and make sure it all gets pinned on the Left. And the right seems to be able to get the FBI and law enforcement to do this for them as well. Anarchy, chaos, property damage, physical harm, mayhem, murder, militarized police with massive crowd control equipment, are all ‘options’ the right are eager to use to shut down any potentially energizing movement.

And this, according to the gaggle of unfettered geniuses formulating this impossibly vast conspiracy, is why...the Fairness Doctrine needs to be brought back to stifle conservative talk radio hosts...? Here's the reply (http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/3/6/73057/39935/62#c62) to the suggestion of TEH CONSPIRACY!!one1!:

talk radio monopoly may be their most important spinning tool since there is no opportunity for rebuttal or counterpoint and they can send it all over the country. whatever it is, wherever it happens, whoever does it, they can turn to their advantage before the evening news. talk radio is where the talking points get prechewed for the celebrity talking heads.


http://tinyurl.com/34h5ug


I don't think this will attract much attention or even claims of a false falg.

Wrong. See above.

I do find the wording a little humorous though. How can a small explosive that didn't cause any injuries and only shattered a bit of glass be characterized as an explosive that "rocked NY Times Square"?It depends on if it was a controlled demolition or not.

If it was, there should have been no sound at all. At least, that's how it works in the Troof movement.

[Drudgewire]

Not to try to enflame political differences here, but there are those on the paranoid left already claiming this is an undercover Rovian FBI/CIA plot to make the antiwar movement look bad. (http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/3/6/73057/39935/18#c18)
Well, if Rove knew in advance they'll react with retardedness like this... his plan is working like a dream. :p

[Alferd_Packer]

A truther with an M-80?

[Graham2001]

A truther with an M-80?

No apparently:

New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, who joined Bloomberg at a news conference this morning, said that the bomb was a "low-order explosive" made with powder placed in a green ammunition box. "It was not a sophisticated device" he said.

Obviously this was made by someone who does not have a copy of the Anarchist Cookbook or any other guide to irresponsible actions....

[Graham2001]

Not to try to enflame political differences here, but there are those on the paranoid left already claiming this is an undercover Rovian FBI/CIA plot to make the antiwar movement look bad. (http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/3/6/73057/39935/18#c18)


It is indeed true that the beast moves fast.

[beachnut]

I don't think this will attract much attention or even claims of a false falg.

I do find the wording a little humorous though. How can a small explosive that didn't cause any injuries and only shattered a bit of glass be characterized as an explosive that "rocked NY Times Square"?
This is the proof that explosives make distinctive loud noises, and the idiots who are 9/11 truth do not understand their stupid CD ideas would have giant blast sounds that could be heard miles away. Those on the ground next to the WTC would have heard explosives going off.

A real explosive gets your attention, even when it is just a small explosive. The 9/11 truth movement acts as if they are brain dead; why?

[Brainster]

A particularly retarded commenter at Balloon Juice (http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=9840) (first comment) chimes in:

The Other Steve Says:

I’m curious how Skipper Ed knows that these are not foreign terrorists?

Could he perhaps have some insight into the crime? Maybe a Fire in the Reichstag type insight?

[Brainster]

[COLOR=black]A real explosive gets your attention, even when it is just a small explosive. The 9/11 truth movement acts as if they are brain dead; why?

Why assume it's an act?

:D

[Cuddles]

I do find the wording a little humorous though. How can a small explosive that didn't cause any injuries and only shattered a bit of glass be characterized as an explosive that "rocked NY Times Square"?

Presumably because it was in fact a small explosive.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Trinity_shot_color.jpg

Didn't injure a single person, didn't damage a single piece of glass. Does that mean it wouldn't have "rocked Times Square"?

[Good Lt]

A particularly retarded commenter at Balloon Juice (http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=9840) (first comment) chimes in:

Hey, it's Balloon Juice. That's just a regular commenter. :)

[joobz]

How can a small explosive that didn't cause any injuries and only shattered a bit of glass be characterized as an explosive that "rocked NY Times Square"?
Easy. It rocked Times Square in the same way Britney Spears rocked Madison Square Garden.

[HawksFan]

The explosion was lip-synced?

[dudalb]

Presumably because it was in fact a small explosive.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Trinity_shot_color.jpg

Didn't injure a single person, didn't damage a single piece of glass. Does that mean it wouldn't have "rocked Times Square"?

I hope this is not a defense of the morons who planted the bomb.
I don't know if this was a truther, a anarchist,or some other nutcase but in any case it was an act of sheer stupidity. When they catch who did it, the publicity will really help whatever cause he is supporting.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Is anyone else going to say it?

I think there's a strong chance that a truther did this.

Suck on that Sizz, Child, Redibis, Pdohs-next-sock, etc...

ETS: Anyone besides dudalb, I should say.

[Wartrac]

Some reports have said a "bike was used", which I think speaks for itself doesn't it? I mean when the revolution happens I am expecting to see maybe 75 people on schwinns wearing tin hats riding down Pennsylvania Avenue.

[bofors]

I think there's a strong chance that a truther did this.


Ya think so, do ya?

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3934/mormons1yd0.jpg

Some reports have said a "bike was used", which I think speaks for itself doesn't it?

That's right... because we know that Mormons ride bikes...

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9332/mormonsgc0.jpg

So, that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it?

Forget the smoking gun, where's the molten metal?

I smell thermite.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5946/stevenjonescm3.jpg

[dudalb]

Wow, a twoofer is also a bigot. Shocking!

[Corsair 115]

A real explosive gets your attention, even when it is just a small explosive. The 9/11 truth movement acts as if they are brain dead; why?Isn't that a rhetorical question? :D

[Dave Rogers]

Sometimes, even self-parody is indistinguishable from the real thing.

Dave

[Sizzler]

Comment: This Fox broadcast implicates a seasonally dressed person carrying common items, suggests that there are numerous dangerous 'kooks' residing in the U.S. and allows DHS chief Chertoff to make the absurd claim that it is now more difficult for dangerous foreigners to enter the U.S..

S. 1959 is still pending in the U.S. Senate. Events like those in Times Square and the ricin scare in Las Vegas (2 internationally prominent cities) will prove helpful to the creation of a "National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism", that will further erode U.S. civil liberties and imply that all U.S. citizens are potential public safety terrorist threats.
http://911blogger.com/node/14238

[Cincinnatus]

I blame the twoother movement. Think about it, they've done the research on explosives.

[Cincinnatus]

http://911blogger.com/node/14238

Tell your anti-war people to stop blowing **** up then.

[MolBasser]

It took only a couple of hours on my woo forum to have it claimed as a false flag attack.

MolBasser

[Graham2001]

Tell your anti-war people to stop blowing **** up then.

It may be too late to do that... someone is claiming that's the reason they did it, but just who is unknown at this time:

WASHINGTON -- Capitol Hill offices received letters Thursday containing a photo of the Times Square military recruiting office before it was bombed and including the claim "We Did It."
The manila envelopes contained a photo of a man standing in front of the recruiting station before it was bombed. The photo was the kind commonly sent as a holiday greeting card, according to a Democratic aide who spoke on condition of anonymity because the matter is under investigation.
The message on the card: "Happy New Year, We Did It."
The envelope also contained a packet of approximately 10 sheets of paper that seemed to be a political manifesto railing against the Iraq war and a booklet. The aide didn't know what the booklet was. A second aide, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, said similar letters arrived in as many as 10 offices.


See: Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/06/AR2008030603165.html?hpid=moreheadlines) (Dynamic Link)

[Sizzler]

If anti-war protesters did it, what an ironic twist of events. If perhaps it was a "false-flag" meant to invoke the need for homegrown terror bills, what a weak attempt.

Neither seem likely.

[Graham2001]

If anti-war protesters did it, what an ironic twist of events. If perhaps it was a "false-flag" meant to invoke the need for homegrown terror bills, what a weak attempt.

Neither seem likely.

I agree, but someone is trying to claim responsibility for it and the authorities are attempting to suppress the 'message' of the bomber, whatever it may be.

The only thing I can be certain of is that this will be tried again, but probably with a different distribution list. Ironically if these messages had been sent to the mainstream media they would be all over the internet by now...

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Apparently, authorities now believe the letters received had nothing to do with the attack. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335828,00.html)

Radical anti-war activists (being careful not to tar honest and responsible bush/war critics with the whacko brush, here) including possibly 9/11 truth activists remain likely suspects, however.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Some reports have said a "bike was used", which I think speaks for itself doesn't it? I mean when the revolution happens I am expecting to see maybe 75 people on schwinns wearing tin hats riding down Pennsylvania Avenue.


A bike, huh? I immediately suspect Alfons (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/02/man-certainly-not-blessed-with-self.html). ;)

[Sizzler]

Radical anti-war activists (being careful not to tar honest and responsible bush/war critics with the whacko brush, here) including possibly 9/11 truth activists remain likely suspects, however.

really? care to support this claim?

[Sword_Of_Truth]

really? care to support this claim?

Nope.

There's no need for me to spend time and energy proving the obvious.

[Sizzler]

Nope.

There's no need for me to spend time and energy proving the obvious.

In stundie land no doubt...:boggled:

[Graham2001]

Here is something a little freaky, the bombing took place on the 38th anniversary of the day (6th of March, 1970) the Weathermen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_%28organization%29) suffered casualties when a bomb they were making went off by mistake.

Given that co-incidences real and otherwise seem to be the heart of almost all CTs this sort of thing is going to take on increased prominence in the days to come.

[twinstead]

really? care to support this claim?

Well, right now anti-war activists is a good bet until other evidence is discovered. If it IS anti-war activists, the fact they actually set off a BOMB as a protest makes them radical.

As far as support, exactly what claim needs supporting? The only claim here is that so far, anti-war activists are a likely cause. This is an opinion. Why demand support? The ONLY support is the fact that a military recruitment office was targeted.

Maye it was abortion activists, huh?

[Sword_Of_Truth]

In addition to what Twinstead said above, the troofers are the most radical of the anti-war movements members (they are only considered part of the movement because they are technically anti-war, the rest of the anti-war movement didn't invite them).

On a per capita basis, more death threats and calls for violence come from troofers than any other part of the anti-war crowd. Troofer leaders freely engage in and encourage this behavior. "Scholar for Truth" Kevin Barret routinely calls for the deaths of his critics, "Schiolars for Truth" co-founder James Fetzer has called for the armed overthrow of the government, "Pilots for Truth" founder Rob Balsamo threatened to personally execute one troofer critic and when one poster on the LCF boards threatened to kill a prominent debunker, Dylan Avery immediately volunteered information to help him find his target.

In spite of this propensity for violence, I do not believe that troofers are the most likely culprits behind this attack. This is because there are so few of them. I believe it will turn out to be a more "garden variety" whacko.

But the troofers are still out there being pushed towards violence by their leaders. It may be only a matter of time before one or more of them go completely off the deep end.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

But the troofers are still out there being pushed towards violence by their leaders.


I think "herded" may be more appropriate...