Bustamante says we need to stop attacking Native American Indians

[JAR]

In the debate between the governor if California candidates, Bustamante said something like ,"We need to stop attacking Native Americans."

Is this an actual problem in California?

Are people in California actually attacking Native American Indians on a regular basis?

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by JAR
In the debate between the governor if California candidates, Bustamante said something like ,"We need to stop attacking Native Americans."

Is this an actual problem in California?

Are people in California actually attacking Native American Indians on a regular basis?

Perhaps you can provide an actual quote and the context it was used in?

[Tony]

Did he say anything about foreign American Indians?

[JAR]

Originally posted by Tony
Did he say anything about foreign American Indians?
Yeah.

Before he said "We need to stop attacking Native Americans", he said, "We need to stop attacking immigrants."

I think he was referring to Hispanic immigrants.

[hgc]

Originally posted by JAR
In the debate between the governor if California candidates, Bustamante said something like ,"We need to stop attacking Native Americans."

Is this an actual problem in California?

Are people in California actually attacking Native American Indians on a regular basis? This might have something to do with some controversy over gambling on indian reservations.

[swstephe]

Recall debate? In response to Prop. 54

"BUSTAMANTE: And the last thing is that equal opportunity doesn't come from tolerance. I'm going to tolerate somebody? No, it comes from acceptance and making sure that everyone is accepted and that we embrace our diversity. We don't attack immigrants, we don't attack Native Americans, we don't attack people. What we do is accept people and try to have everyone have an equal opportunity in California."

Prop. 54 says, (paraphrasing), that government forms should not ask what race a person is if not needed for some government regulation. Bustamante is clearly against it, he came out with an ad saying "no on Prop. 54" ... in it, he mentions health care 3 times, but never mentions "race" once and doesn't explain the connection. According to voter sample ballots, it people against Prop. 54 rely rather heavily on an example of ... preventing outbreaks of disease related to a particular racial group (???)

Perhaps it is something not published yet ... Bustamante is under a lot of heat lately for accepting campaign funding from Indian gaming casinos. He could be deflecting the attack on his own campaign funding towards the source of fundings.

[Clancie]

The recent Schwarzenegger ads are all about Indians. Still nothing at all about what he's going to do about the $38 billion budget deficit...but lots about the terrible Indians (they don't pay enough taxes....make political campaign contributions to everyone they can, etc. etc)......

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by Clancie
The recent Schwarzenegger ads are all about Indians. Still nothing at all about what he's going to do about the $38 billion budget deficit...but lots about the terrible Indians (they don't pay enough taxes....make political campaign contributions to everyone they can, etc. etc)......

That's true, but the Bustamante alternative is so scary I rather have some one like Schwarzenegger as a governer.

[peptoabysmal]

Originally posted by JAR
In the debate between the governor if California candidates, Bustamante said something like ,"We need to stop attacking Native Americans."

Is this an actual problem in California?

Are people in California actually attacking Native American Indians on a regular basis?

I haven't shot one for over a month now.

I don't think people in California are against Native Americans, the Indian Gaming Commission is anything but your average Native Americans. They are a few people taking advantage of laws that were made out of guilt, and most of the Native Americans in the state don't get a dime of it. It is just cheap casinos in Caifornia that aren't paying any taxes. By cheap, I mean they look like low budget copies of Nevada casinos.

Story about this. (http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_covers/0,10987,1101021216-397526,00.html)

[EvilYeti]

Originally posted by JAR

Are people in California actually attacking Native American Indians on a regular basis?

Look, its the Indians that started it. They keep shooting arrows through our ten gallon hats.

Californians spent over a billion dollars anually on hat repair. Its shocking, really.

[BroodingSkill]

Well I know that the Native Americans get away with gambling because they live on federal land, and on the other hand if Arnold's right and they don't pay taxes, then they should.

I know the State tried to shut them down a couple years ago but that didn't take. Now one of the local tribes is running a rebutle ad claiming their just participating in the political process. Yet the ad didn't address wether they were paying taxes or not. I think I'll do some research on this.

[Questioninggeller]

Originally posted by JAR
In the debate between the governor if California candidates, Bustamante said something like ,"We need to stop attacking Native Americans."

Is this an actual problem in California?

Are people in California actually attacking Native American Indians on a regular basis?

I believe he is referring to "cansio's lack of taxes," because a certain Republican actor who think's he can play governor wants to tax them.

[BroodingSkill]

Well here are a few links about tribal gaming and taxes I'll let you guys look at them and see what you think.




http://www.cniga.com/facts/qanda.php




http://www.taxes.ca.gov/tribal.html


this link is a bout the compact the tribes sign with the state.


http://209.217.226.34/documents/tribal.htm


I'm sorry to sort of cop out on this but I'm tired and am going to sleep for a while.

[Wyvern]

Originally posted by JAR
In the debate between the governor if California candidates, Bustamante said something like ,"We need to stop attacking Native Americans."

Is this an actual problem in California?

Are people in California actually attacking Native American Indians on a regular basis?
Bush and Blair have both sent troops to California to police this thing. The strange thing is, there is absolutely nothing in the media. I suspect someone's forking out a lot of hush money. My best guess is that would be Ahhnold.

[Tony]

Originally posted by Wyvern

Bush and Blair have both sent troops to California to police this thing. The strange thing is, there is absolutely nothing in the media. I suspect someone's forking out a lot of hush money. My best guess is that would be Ahhnold.

Huh?

[Beleth]

Originally posted by swstephe
"BUSTAMANTE: And the last thing is that equal opportunity doesn't come from tolerance. I'm going to tolerate somebody? No, it comes from acceptance and making sure that everyone is accepted and that we embrace our diversity. We don't attack immigrants, we don't attack Native Americans, we don't attack people. What we do is accept people and try to have everyone have an equal opportunity in California."
We attack felons, don't we? We throw them in jail, and we kill some of them.

Are illegal immigrants felons, or are they not?

I do not - I will not - accept illegal immigrants as a necessary evil. And I sure as shootin' won't vote for anyone who wants to "embrace" them.

I still don't know who I am going to vote for. I feel like I'm playing that "which would you rather do, have sex with a dead goat or eat a bowl of diarrhea" game.

[Wyvern]

Sorry, Tony, that was just bad, fuzzy smart-aleckyness on my part. And a day late and a dollar short to boot.
Originally posted by Beleth

I still don't know who I am going to vote for. I feel like I'm playing that "which would you rather do, have sex with a dead goat or eat a bowl of diarrhea" game.

I'm with you Beleth, except I never would have thought to put it so eloquently. Less than a week to go, and I still don't know who I'm going to vote for. For awhile there I was going to vote for the recall but then I realized that being angry about and disagreeing with the whole driver's license thing isn't an appropriate reason to recall the gubner. So I'll vote no, but as for who to vote for in case the recall occur . . . you're guess is as good as mine!

[Tony]

Originally posted by Wyvern
Sorry, Tony, that was just bad, fuzzy smart-aleckyness on my part. And a day late and a dollar short to boot.


:dl: :dl:

I was about to ***** in my pants, I thought you were being serious.