Banned from Loose Change....again.

[parky76]

So, Ive been banned from LC...again.

It was a pretty long run, but I must say, Ive begun to be really bored with their pathetic posts. Like a broken record.

Its a good thing too. Ive been sending tons of their posts to the FBI terrorism tip web site. And Im sure they will be very very interested in several of their topics, especially the one calling for murder against members of the "NWO".

But, do not be sad, LC members. I shall return, at the time of my choosing.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[T.A.M.]

LC still has a forum?

TAM;)

[parky76]

yeah, they do, but it is now the bottom of the barrel of 9-11 deniars.

mostly psychos, schizophrenics, paranoid delusionals...you know...the fun people!!!

=)

[T.A.M.]

ah, so do you consider yourself a taunter, or merely a spectator at the freak show?

TAM:)

[parky76]

ill admit it. talking to these folks..is incredibly entertaining. sometimes i read things that literally make me fall out of my chair laughing.

and its also fun to see the freak show. kinda like seeing the bearded lady and the snake boy at the circus.

yes, i consider LC to be the bearded lady of internet forums...=)

[Good Lt]

You're a sick puppy, parky.

:D

[parky76]

naa, just too much time to kill between seeing my girlfriend, work, and other things.

[Unsecured Coins]

naa, just too much time to kill between seeing my girlfriend, work, and other things.


Of course, you realize that since you are gone, there is no one at the Loose Change Forums who has any of these above mentioned articles, right?

[Confuseling]

That's unfair. Many truthers have other things. UFOlogy, or a fixation with Jews, for example.

[Unsecured Coins]

I stand corrected

[Hans]

Ah, I must ask a stupid question.

Where might one find this Mecca of kookdom?

Oh and I understand your interest Parky. For many years I've lurked and participated in Archaeological nutty forums - there is a certain entertainment value there. But yes after seeing the same tired subjects presented as new evidence fourty or fifty times it grows old - which is why I'm here now, observering another facet of the "alternative" world.

Regards

[HeyLeroy]

http://www.loosechangeforums.com

[Childlike Empress]

Surprising move. I thought they wouldn't ban you because you are such a perfect example for the kind of person they want their visitors to believe every "JREFer" is.

[Unsecured Coins]

he musta done something dastardly like, use logic and not blame the jews for the LTW crew to ban him.

[HeyLeroy]

Seems a poster usernamed "arbor" was just banned over there; I went through his last thirty or so posts, and I can't figure out why.

Maybe he was too annoyingly polite for a skeptic.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Pfft... Now I understand why they allowed previously banned people to register on the new forum: they wanted the pleasure of banning them all over again.

It must tweak something in their brain, much like repeating some of their stupider claims after they've been debunked, as if they'd never been debunked.

[DGM]

Pfft... Now I understand why they allowed previously banned people to register on the new forum: they wanted the pleasure of banning them all over again.

It must tweak something in their brain, much like repeating some of their stupider claims after they've been debunked, as if they'd never been debunked.
But the CIT boy's are still there and doing most of the posting. I did notice our buddy 'Terral' got the boot. Also 'JHarrow' (pdope) is still there but hasn't posted since he got the boot here.

[parky76]

Arbor.....yep...thats me!!

Hee Hee.

It is very clear, that they banned me because they are only willing to tolerate dissent for so long. Once it becomes more then just a thorn in their side, they squash it, just like the fascists they seem to condemn.

Hmmm...what do you call people who yell and scream about freedom of speech, the right to dissent, and the right to hold opposing views..but then squash such views within their own little universe?

Whats that word again? I forgot. I think it begins with an "H".

[nicepants]

Arbor.....yep...thats me!!

Hee Hee.

It is very clear, that they banned me because they are only willing to tolerate dissent for so long. Once it becomes more then just a thorn in their side, they squash it, just like the fascists they seem to condemn.

Hmmm...what do you call people who yell and scream about freedom of speech, the right to dissent, and the right to hold opposing views..but then squash such views within their own little universe?

Whats that word again? I forgot. I think it begins with an "H".

haha...Welcome to the club!

I was banned there a while ago...A few posts after stundie called me a dipsh[rule10]. He didn't get so much as a warning for that, but I got banned. I should have known better than to drive someone else to break the rules, eh? I see now they have accused another member of being a sock of me...they'll use any means necessary to get rid of any opposition to their theories.

That forum is nothing but a celebration of arrogant ignorance. Everytime they ban another skeptic, they rejoice that they've rid themselves of another "JREF troll" or "pseudoskeptic". And everytime they do this they become one step closer to a mass-concsiousness of stupid.

The lack of any resemblance of logical thought is complemented by the paranoia of anyone who dares question any CT for any reason. Anyone showing skepticism towards anything other than the "official theories" is labeled a "Government Apologist", or banned.

The worst of the worst over there are Craig, Aldo, and Domenick (CIT) who use the forum as an attempt to push their ridiculous and impossible "flyover" theory. That's who I had most of my dealings with over there. I have never encountered people so arrogantly ignorant. Attempting logical debate with them is like trying to explain algebra to a toddler.

[T.A.M.]

Surprising move. I thought they wouldn't ban you because you are such a perfect example for the kind of person they want their visitors to believe every "JREFer" is.

Yes an intelligent person who uses real sources and logic to form his opinion.

You are right, I can see why he is a good example of a typical JREFer.

TAM:)

[DarkMagician]

Arbor.....yep...thats me!!

Hee Hee.

It is very clear, that they banned me because they are only willing to tolerate dissent for so long. Once it becomes more then just a thorn in their side, they squash it, just like the fascists they seem to condemn.

Hmmm...what do you call people who yell and scream about freedom of speech, the right to dissent, and the right to hold opposing views..but then squash such views within their own little universe?

Whats that word again? I forgot. I think it begins with an "H".

Horiculture?

[T.A.M.]

isn't it Whoriculture?

TAM;)

[SDC]

Ah, I must ask a stupid question.

Where might one find this Mecca of kookdom?

Oh and I understand your interest Parky. For many years I've lurked and participated in Archaeological nutty forums - there is a certain entertainment value there. But yes after seeing the same tired subjects presented as new evidence fourty or fifty times it grows old - which is why I'm here now, observering another facet of the "alternative" world.

Regards

Wait, wait! "Archaeological nutty forums"?? Are there archeology conspiracy theories out there? Sounds like fun. Links, please.

[Par]

So, Ive been banned from LC...again.


I don’t care.

(In reality, I do. To be honest, I don’t know what you’re doing it for. You remind me of the apocryphal case of the visitors to the lunatic asylums of Bedlam, who would antagonise the inmates merely to provoke a reaction. The “Loose Change” meme is currently moribund. So, please, just let it die.)

[parky76]

What I love now, is how Killtown is going to every single thread he can find where a debunker exists, and is asking him "do you agree that if no plane crashed in shanksville, its all a mute point?"

can you say...Johnny One Note?

[Cl1mh4224rd]

What I love now, is how Killtown is going to every single thread he can find where a debunker exists, and is asking him "do you agree that if no plane crashed in shanksville, its all a mute point?"

can you say...Johnny One Note?


Heh. A "mute" point.

* Cl1mh4224rd points and laughs at Killtown... silently.

[VespaGuy]

Surprising move. I thought they wouldn't ban you because you are such a perfect example for the kind of person they want their visitors to believe every "JREFer" is.

I assumed something similar when I was banned a few months ago after only a handful of posts. I asked logical questions, while Roxdog constantly insulted and attacked me, breaking the forum rules many times and was never so much as warned. I, however, was booted for no reason.

I immediately assumed, like you do, that logic, reason, and intelligence were not allowed coming from those that support the official story behind 9/11.

[Drudgewire]

In fairness to the loons, I'd considering narcing members out to the feds trolling and ban over that too. :p

[AMTMAN]

yeah, they do, but it is now the bottom of the barrel of 9-11 deniars.

mostly psychos, schizophrenics, paranoid delusionals...you know...the fun people!!!

=)

Its funny that Aldo of CIT can call people names, make thinly vieled threats and what not yet nothing happens to him.

[nicepants]

Its funny that Aldo of CIT can call people names, make thinly vieled threats and what not yet nothing happens to him.

He was given a 1 week suspension recently after violating the personal attacks rule multiple times...of course, he got multiple warnings.

You get any warnings, Arbor? Oh wait, you're a JREFer...in that case it's ban first, ask question....no...just ban

[AMTMAN]

He was given a 1 week suspension recently after violating the personal attacks rule multiple times...of course, he got multiple warnings.

You get any warnings, Arbor? Oh wait, you're a JREFer...in that case it's ban first, ask question....no...just ban

I stand corrected. Wonder what took them so long. Seems like about every post of his has some snide remark or insult in it.

[ZouPrime]

Its a good thing too. Ive been sending tons of their posts to the FBI terrorism tip web site. And Im sure they will be very very interested in several of their topics, especially the one calling for murder against members of the "NWO".

If you know it's ********, don't flood the tip lines with it. That's not cool. These peoples have other things to do than waste their time on internet crackpots.

[Miragememories]

ill admit it. talking to these folks..is incredibly entertaining. sometimes i read things that literally make me fall out of my chair laughing.

and its also fun to see the freak show. kinda like seeing the bearded lady and the snake boy at the circus.

yes, i consider LC to be the bearded lady of internet forums...=)

Gee you took the words right out of my mouth---only I was thinking of you people.

Too funny.

MM

[Confuseling]

In fairness to the loons, I'd considering narcing members out to the feds trolling and ban over that too. :p

:D now THAT is funny.

[Ranb]

I got banned a few times. I ended up going back under new names for a while. Ranb was banned a few minutes after I asked Avery if the video editing he was complaining about was like quote mining. Ranb40 was banned for being a sock puppet. Even though I made no attempt to hide who I was, even signing my posts as Ranb, it took them a long time to ban me again. When I went back as Kaiya on the new forum, I was eventually banned after claming LC was based on hatred of the USA. I think that kind of pissed them off. I am staying away for now.

Ranb

[tsig]

haha...Welcome to the club!

I was banned there a while ago...A few posts after stundie called me a dipsh[rule10]. He didn't get so much as a warning for that, but I got banned. I should have known better than to drive someone else to break the rules, eh? I see now they have accused another member of being a sock of me...they'll use any means necessary to get rid of any opposition to their theories.

That forum is nothing but a celebration of arrogant ignorance. Everytime they ban another skeptic, they rejoice that they've rid themselves of another "JREF troll" or "pseudoskeptic". And everytime they do this they become one step closer to a mass-concsiousness of stupid.

The lack of any resemblance of logical thought is complemented by the paranoia of anyone who dares question any CT for any reason. Anyone showing skepticism towards anything other than the "official theories" is labeled a "Government Apologist", or banned.

The worst of the worst over there are Craig, Aldo, and Domenick (CIT) who use the forum as an attempt to push their ridiculous and impossible "flyover" theory. That's who I had most of my dealings with over there. I have never encountered people so arrogantly ignorant. Attempting logical debate with them is like trying to explain algebra to a toddler.

A toddler who bites.

[gtc]

Surprising move. I thought they wouldn't ban you because you are such a perfect example for the kind of person they want their visitors to believe every "JREFer" is.

What, Jewish?

Do you think the Jews were behind 911?

[X]

[Red|Black Hat]Doesn't this put you in the same league as sockers like P'Doh?[/Red|Black Hat]

[Childlike Empress]

What, Jewish?

Do you think the Jews were behind 911?


:mgduh

[gtc]

Surprising move. I thought they wouldn't ban you because you are such a perfect example for the kind of person they want their visitors to believe every "JREFer" is.

:mgduh

Is that a yes?

[PB&J]

He was given a 1 week suspension recently after violating the personal attacks rule multiple times...of course, he got multiple warnings.

You get any warnings, Arbor? Oh wait, you're a JREFer...in that case it's ban first, ask question....no...just ban

Yeah, he got a week ban for calling me a traitorous little (female dog) after I had him pinned on an issue. It takes a big person to admit when they're wrong, and he obviously couldn't cope so he lashed out... calling me a traitor to America etc etc... "savor this, because it's the only time you'll ever be right" yadda yadda

I read that and just laughed all night.... "twoof, the ultimate stress reliever"

[parky76]

eh, the truth movemant is dead anyways. its officialy entered the rhealm of JFK, Moon Landings, and Area 51.

[Sabrina]

If you know it's ********, don't flood the tip lines with it. That's not cool. These peoples have other things to do than waste their time on internet crackpots.

Incorrect. I passed along a tip on the DHS website tip area regarding an internet forum poster who had made reasonably direct threats against the President (he didn't name names, such as "let's kill Bush", but he did threaten the Presidency). I was called the next day (I happen to work in the US Intelligence Community, so I am aware that response would be a rarity) and told by the person who called me that they were grateful I had passed along the tip and they had forwarded it to the Secret Service.

Whether the person in question is merely BSing or not is irrelevant; that would come out in investigation. But the people monitoring this kind of thing want anything and everything they can get so they can be SURE they will get the important stuff when it comes time for it. They would rather you report anything you see and let them judge if it's for real or not instead of a layperson (read: the person who spotted the item in question) making their own judgment call on it.

[Myriad]

Whether the person in question is merely BSing or not is irrelevant; that would come out in investigation. But the people monitoring this kind of thing want anything and everything they can get so they can be SURE they will get the important stuff when it comes time for it. They would rather you report anything you see and let them judge if it's for real or not instead of a layperson (read: the person who spotted the item in question) making their own judgment call on it.


Exactly. I tipped the FBI when someone claimed to be an Al Qaeda member in a thread here. When I submitted my tip, I wrote, "I'm pretty sure that this is just some kid making up lies on the Internet, but I'm also pretty sure that it should be you, not me, making that determination."

ETA: I'm just as glad I didn't get a response from the FBI, thanking me for the info.

Respectfully,
Myriad

[Calcas]

Exactly. I tipped the FBI when someone claimed to be an Al Qaeda member in a thread here. When I submitted my tip, I wrote, "I'm pretty sure that this is just some kid making up lies on the Internet, but I'm also pretty sure that it should be you, not me, making that determination."

ETA: I'm just as glad I didn't get a response from the FBI, thanking me for the info.

Respectfully,
Myriad

I also have one experience with this.

Two years ago Bush was coming to our town to stump for a local Congressman. It was announced about a week before the visit, but of course without many details.

Two days before, our local paper printed a "letter to the editor" from someone who, basically, said somebody needs to "get rid of this guy for good." I couldn't believe the paper would print it but I called our local FBI office and asked the agent on duty if he had read the paper this morning. I stayed on the phone while he got the paper.

He came back and was stunned. He interpreted it as a direct threat the same as me. He thanked me for bringing it to his attention and I thought that was it.

He called me back a week later as a courtesy and said the author of the letter was interviewed at length and although not dubbed as someone particularly dangerous, was ordered to stay away from Bush during his visit and put under surveilence during the visit just to make sure.

He also said the owner and editor of the paper (which has a normally fairly liberal bias) were contacted and read the riot act for allowing a letter like that to get printed.

So, if you see see or read something that raises your eyebrows, report it. Let the authorities decide what's credible and what isn't. Better safe than sorry because there are just too many crazies out there.

[Sabrina]

Quite frankly I wouldn't be in the least surprised to find out that there's a group of people within the intel community responsible for monitoring forums such as this for questionable statements. And if there isn't, I think there should be. 99.8% of the time, it's likely that the person in question is just blowing smoke out of their [rule10], but it's that other .2% that concerns me and makes me hope that someone IS monitoring websites like the LCF and even here (although I'd pity them deeply if they had to monitor the MSNBC boards; those ones are CRAZY).

I'm not one of those people who shrieks and moans at the thought that someone might be monitoring my public communications, because as far as I'm concerned, I have nothing to hide (besides, they know all about my little foibles anyway or I wouldn't have the clearance I have). I don't see it as a privacy violation, because it's public anyways. I WOULD have a problem with monitoring my email and other private traffic to some extent, however. Regardless, as Calcas and Myriad have said; if you see something that feels off to you, PLEASE report it. Let the experts (so to speak) decide if it's BS or not.

[Childlike Empress]

@TAM and VespaGuy: You obviously didn't pay attention to parky76's machinations at LCF (who can blame you).

Today, the user "22205" made a post (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=48302&t=105107) that summarizes the situation quite well. Judge for yourself.

If you don't want to waste your time with reading it all, just click on the two links at the very end of his post and then read parky76's post #42 on this thread again:

eh, the truth movemant is dead anyways. its officialy entered the rhealm of JFK, Moon Landings, and Area 51.


:D I feel like heading over to 4chan and copypasta one of their retarded "epic fail" pics for parky76, but hey, i can barely resist.

arbor posted this thread:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/124182/1/

in which he, WITHOUT substantiation (or links), slandered and negatively characterized Marion Cotillard. when he was challenged to find the original source of information so that her ALLEGED statements could be confirmed, he FAILED. he objected to DIVERSIONS caused by others in that thread, yet by focusing on said diversions he in the end, AVOIDED doing any research to justify his accusations. he had days to find the original french documentary with cotillard's alleged statements, or concede that he was incorrect or unustified, but he chose instead to continue spewing his hatred. meanwhile he posted other threads consisting of either more unsubstantiated opinion and innuendo disguised as facts, or more hatred and borderline racist posts.

the last straw (in the mods' view presumably) came when arbor - who still had NOT proven that Ms.Cotillard had in fact made the statements he used to indict her - once again spoke in an ugly and derrogatory manner about her: source (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=46378&t=122078)

And we have the right to call her views stupid, uneducated, and pathetic.


Arbor this is a 9/11 truth forum, with views like yours why are you even here? You openly support water boarding, have claimed the puppy video could be fake and have opportunistically attacked a celebrity for voicing their concerns about the official 9/11 myth. This is along with other seemingly purposeful stunts of devil's advocacy.

After consideration by admin staff over a long period of time, your account is now banned.


[...SNIP...]

***
back to arbor/parky76:

It was a pretty long run, but I must say, Ive begun to be really bored with their pathetic posts. Like a broken record.


you spent more time here than anyone i have ever seen: prior to your banning you had the most posts here (450). so you had plenty of leeway and were allowed plenty of freedom to express your (biased) views. perhaps your (alleged but untrue) boredom was a result of your own excesses here, not anyone's "broken record-ness".



yeah, they do, but it is now the bottom of the barrel of 9-11 deniars.
mostly psychos, schizophrenics, paranoid delusionals...you know...the fun people!!!

naa, just too much time to kill between seeing my girlfriend, work, and other things.


liar, hypocrite. you are in total denial dude, i think even your fellow jrefers could see it. most of them dont like LCF and DONT spend much time here. it is you who has 450 posts here in less than 100 days (equals 40+ posts a day). i guess you work your job part-time and your girlfriend and you must be in a long-distance relationship, huh? for people you speak so lowly of, you sure did like spending alot of time around "us".



But, do not be sad, LC members. I shall return, at the time of my choosing.


im surprised you havent registered a sock already. you must be in withdrawl by now, so i imagine somewhere in the next 48 hours (if not already) you will be back under a new name. unfortunately for you however, the bias and ignorance of your point of view is so transparent that unless you censure yourself, we will all see you coming from a mile away.




WOW! it turns out we shouldnt even be calling you "arbor", since you joined LCF2 as "Calvin" a half year earlier than "arbor":
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=5767&view=findpost&p=12771869
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=5767&view=findpost&p=12773670

pretty sneaky sis!


(i wouldn't have posted this if parky76 hadn't just opened another defamatory thread)

[Architect]

(http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=48302&t=105107)http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=48302&t=105107
(http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=48302&t=105107)

My, what an eloquent and well-developed line of argument.

[parky76]

Hee hee!!!!!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[jhunter1163]

I'm not one of those people who shrieks and moans at the thought that someone might be monitoring my public communications, because as far as I'm concerned, I have nothing to hide (besides, they know all about my little foibles anyway or I wouldn't have the clearance I have). I don't see it as a privacy violation, because it's public anyways. I WOULD have a problem with monitoring my email and other private traffic to some extent, however. Regardless, as Calcas and Myriad have said; if you see something that feels off to you, PLEASE report it. Let the experts (so to speak) decide if it's BS or not.

I used to have foibles all the time, but then I got married. Mrs. Jhunter1163, bless her heart, doesn't let me have those anymore.

[parky76]

dude, the FBI and CIA can read every one of my posts, as far as i am concerned. i just hope they get a good laugh.

=)

[AZCat]

Today, the user "22205" made a post (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=48302&t=105107) that summarizes the situation quite well. Judge for yourself.

Looks like someone isn't very good at math. 450 posts in less than 100 days is 40+ posts a day?

[parky76]

lets see. 450 posts..in 100 days. thats 450 divided by 100. on earth..that would equal 4.5

in trutherland...that would equal....45.

=)

on a side not, I see the Loose Toothers are still getting a real kick out of me..and my avatar.

God, save me from the comedy!!!!

[GreNME]

Quite frankly I wouldn't be in the least surprised to find out that there's a group of people within the intel community responsible for monitoring forums such as this for questionable statements. And if there isn't, I think there should be.

What kind of reasoning is behind this statement? It sounds incredibly paranoid and not feasible as far as assertions go, but I'm having a difficult time wrapping my head around the justification for the notion.

[parky76]

I too think the FBI should monitor loony sites. We cant expect Killtown or Roxdog to report a threat to the Secret Service, now can we?

[GreNME]

I don't see how wasting the limited resources of our intelligence agencies is a worthwhile endeavor (though I can see how it could lead to missing letigimate issues). It also happens to be my number one reason for being against the overzealous "monitoring" programs of the current administration, including the illegal wiretaps (but I digress).

Again, the statement came across to me as either incredibly paranoid or composed of a type of sarcasm I didn't immediately recognize.

[Myriad]

Reading message boards post by post would be a great waste of time, all right. If only there were some kind of magical machine, that could rapidly sift through large amounts of text accessible via the Internet and search for suspicious patterns of words and phrases. If such a device existed -- it would have to be very flexibly "programmable" so let's call it a "programmomat" --then intelligence agencies could monitor message boards without wasting a lot of man-hours in doing so. Too bad the programmomat has not yet been invented.

Respectfully,
Myriad

[Architect]

No, no, no. It's easy to ensure that the intellegence community read this board.



BOMB. WASHINGTON. AHMED. KILL. AMERICA. PLOT. BUSH.





There, that should flag up on the programmomat no problem.

[Dave Rogers]

Quite frankly I wouldn't be in the least surprised to find out that there's a group of people within the intel community responsible for monitoring forums such as this for questionable statements.

Says the member of the intel community who monitors this forum and sees the questionable statements made on it. Now that you've said that, I think the rest of us would be even less surprised ;).

Dave

[Sabrina]

Says the member of the intel community who monitors this forum and sees the questionable statements made on it. Now that you've said that, I think the rest of us would be even less surprised ;).

Dave

Ooops, I've been caught. :D Have to tell my handler my cover is blown.

@ Gren: I wasn't saying that there would be people reading every single post on every single forum throughout the internet (I'd pity the poor person who got stuck with 4chan or /b/, for example) but that instead there was some sort of computer program, like Myriad mentioned, that scans the forums for words and phrases that raise red flags; those posts are then reviewed by actual people and dismissed or followed up on. And for you to say it's a waste of time is, quite frankly to me, very questionable in this day and age of information technology and transfer across the internet.

I'm not saying I KNOW that there is a section of the IC devoted to that, I'm merely saying I find it likely, and that if there isn't one, there should be, just to monitor the public areas. Over 80% of intelligence is considered "open-source"; i.e. unclassified. The idea that an information source such as a public forum WOULDN'T be monitored is, to me, ludicrous. I don't KNOW that its the case, but I think it's likely. Does that clear it up for you?

[Confuseling]

Carnivore (wiki) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_%28software%29) fit the bill. I believe it is often discussed in connection with ECHELON although whether they were actually connected, or really the systems concerned, who knows. Carnivore is now defunct according to the link, but presumably something replaced it.

Also, why not use humans, especially once the raw data has been filtered a bit? Having people do it doesn't necessarily imply lots of people. I don't doubt that the intelligence community has someone tasked with ameliorating the threat posed by Cornish Nationalism. He/she just isn't very busy.

[Terral]

Hi DGM:

But the CIT boy's are still there and doing most of the posting. I did notice our buddy 'Terral' got the boot. Also 'JHarrow' (pdope) is still there but hasn't posted since he got the boot here.


I am reluctant to explain things to anyone here, because this JREF Board has more of its fair share of delusional ‘debunkers’ (heh (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/Bigsmile.jpg)) without any knowledge of ‘the 911Truth’ at all. ZERO. You have been working under the power of the deluding influence (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Thes%202:10-12;&version=49;) of Gravy and his DoD cohorts for so long, that the 911Truth has no meaning at all. You say ‘this’ (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/93crash2.jpg) and 'this' (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/17-93.jpg) is a picture of a crashed 100-ton Jetliner, when the evidence shows a picture of a 20-feet diameter empty hole in the ground (http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=JZekosYOmXc) (the movie (http://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/files/documents/Day_1_-_Pittsburg_Crash_01.swf)). You say ‘this’ (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/NoWayBaby.jpg) is a picture of yet another crashed 100-ton Jetliner, when nothing like that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKhBzAh_eeA) crashed anywhere near the Pentagon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C02dE5VKeck) on 9/11 or any other day. You say ‘this’ (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/WTC7Steel.jpg) 47-story overbuilt skyscraper collapsed demolition-style into its own footprint (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/wtc7-debris.jpg) from building fires (heh (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/YoSoFunny.gif)), when that is very much IMPOSSIBLE without precedent anywhere in the history of this planet. Here are some facts that prove beyond all doubt that Dylan Avery, all the LC boys, Killtown, Webfairy and all of their 911Movement (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?) cohorts are DoD operatives right along with their CIT chat-monkey (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/CIT_Video.jpg) cohorts. In fact, the new Loose Change Board (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/index/) is nothing more than a DoD/FBI Front making certain that 911LIES are king and nobody is ever brought to justice for planning and carrying out these 9/11 attacks against innocent Americans.

My “Fight 77 Never Crashed Near the Pentagon” Thread (here (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=14796)) was the most read topic on the Old Loose Change “Pentagon Forum” Board with over 6000 reads. My “WTC-7 Was Taken Down Using Controlled Demolition” Thread (here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/72336/1/#new)) continues to be the most read WTC-7 Thread in the New LC Forum, even though I am unable to defend my OP hypothesis, which is also true of my Flight 93 Topic here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/72189/1/#new) albeit narrowly. A look at the new LC Pentagon Forum Board (here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/forum/45288/)) shows the place is dominated by the CIT chat monkeys and their Light Pole stupidity, which derails the topic of what really hit the Pentagon at 9:32 AM to ‘SomeWhereElseVille.’ The fact is that these LC Boys care even less about what really hit the Pentagon than the professing JREF ‘debunkers’ (heh), which is typical of all DoD/FBI Counterintelligence Disinformation Cronies posing as puppets for the ‘inside-job’ bad guys that planned and carried out these 9/11 attacks. These LC Cronies are guilty of disobeying their own ridiculous COC guidelines, as you can see my offending post here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=34670&t=76910). Gideon replied to me saying, “Read the rules again, Terral, and knock off the personal attacks. See you in a week.” (here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=34718&t=76910)).

Okay, so a week has obviously passed since February 13, 2008, but I am still “BANNED!!!” :0). So what gives? Why would these LC 911Truthers (they are no such thing) ban one of their top posters for little or no reason at all? AE911Truth has just one “Demolition Supervisor” (http://www.ae911truth.org/supporters.php?g=XMISC#999528) among the members with qualifications to write on these WTC Topics, but the LC Boys see fit to toss me out with the garbage. Why? :0) Here is a News Flash for the ‘debunkers’ running around this joint: Killtown did the same thing at the 911Movement Board (explained here (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=18752) ) where I have been in Purgatory since last year. Painter did the same exact thing at PilotsForTruth.org (CIT_Aldo being an azz here (http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?showtopic=9269&st=15)), even though you can search all of my posts on all of these 911Truth-pretender Boards and find no reason for my banning at all. The common denominator in these (and other) cases is that I place the “First Explosion” at the Pentagon at 9:32 AM, according to the real FAA Timeline (here (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB165/faa5.pdf)), which just happens to be among my trashed threads on this JREF Board (here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=106155)).

The difference is that these JREF DoD bad guys also trash Flight 93 threads (mine is here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=95068)), because too much 911Truth is a bad thing around these parts. In case you are wondering, my 9:32 AM First Attack Topic received no replies from anyone at the LC Board (thread is here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/65803/1/#new)), because no DoD/FBI Counterintelligence Operative wants his name connected to any 9:32 AM Pentagon Time at all. The 9:31 AM and 9:32 AM times have been sanitized out of the Arlington County After-Action Report (here (http://www.arlingtonva.us/departments/Fire/edu/about/docs/after_report.pdf)) representing the DoD/FBI Disinformation Bible right along with other keywords (like ‘explosions’), which means they have no defense to my constant 9:32 AM First Explosion explanations. The DoD inside-job counterintelligence bad guys complain to the PilotsForTruth, 911Movement and Loose Change leadership cronies to have me removed from their midst, OR they will be forced to move on and peddle their disinformation wares elsewhere. The 911Truth-pretender/Front Movement is designed to go nowhere, which is the very reason you see ‘real’ 911Truthers run out of Dodge and CIT/DoD operatives taking center stage going round and round and round about their Light Pole (heh) Fantasies. The fake 911Movement is giving you easy targets to ‘debunk,’ so that your counterproposals have some resemblance of reality.

Even the cronies over at AE911Truth.org (http://www.ae911truth.org) and ScholarsForTruth.org (http://stj911.org/index.html) are running in place doing as close to ‘nothing’ as possible without one care in the world for what really hit the Pentagon any more than the typical JREF debunker. These are ‘Fronts’ for the DoD/FBI Counterintelligence bad guys working every day to make for damn sure that none of the real inside-job bad guys are ever brought to justice. They are only filling the space of real 911Truthers being displaced by the DoD Counterintelligence Propaganda making ‘you’ think that a real 911Truth Movement even exists, when NOTHING could be farther from ‘the’ 911Truth. I challenged Painter (PilotsForTruth (http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?act=idx) admin) over these things on the AE911Truth Board and exposed him as a DoD Counterintelligence bad guy, which lead to the AE911Truth Discussion Board being attacked in the first place. That action became the source of my banning from all of these 911Truth-pretender Boards being orchestrated by a single DoD handler working every day to micromanage Board content part of their inside-job counterintelligence/disinformation campaign. This explains why Killtown, the CIT Boys and the Loose Change Boys are all one big happy family on the New LC Board, because the DoD has streamlined operations in coordination with the next 9/11-like attack about to take place out in California; which accounts for the disappearance of other DoD operatives (like Gravy and Caustic Logic and Honway) preparing for Round 2.

The debunkers here feel some kind of victory over the 911Truth-pretenders, because that is exactly what they want you to believe; even though none of you can produce one picture of Flight 93 or Flight 77 crashed anywhere. You are being DUPED by the DoD/FBI operative bad guys running this Board ‘and’ their 911Truth-pretender counterparts running in place throughout this entire ‘do-nothing’ charade, so in the end the real inside-job bad guys get away with murdering innocent Americans and stealing over 10,000 dollars for every man, woman, child and illegal alien running around loose in this once great country. The difference for me is that I know ‘the’ 911Truth and I could not care less about what any of you believe one way or the other. According to your super-moderator, then anything I have posted on other Boards is “SPAM” if posted here and all of this has been presented elsewhere to my complete satisfaction. If you want to be led around by DoD cronies serving Senor Bushie and his inside-job bad guys, then mo-powa-2-ya. Your ‘Debunking’ and Cynicism of ‘the’ 911Truth has become your ‘god,’ so please do not allow anyone to stand in your way.

Those among you hiding ‘the’ 911Truth in your unrighteousness are just as guilty for doing ‘this’ (http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/humanremains.html) to We The People, as the inside-job bad guys that planned and carried out these 9/11 attacks, so please do not allow me to stand between you and the coming Judgment (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev%2020:11-15,%2021:8;&version=49;). 911Truthers have indeed worn out our welcome, because you prefer 911LIES more than anything else . . .

GL,

Terral

[Swing Dangler]

naa, just too much time to kill between seeing my girlfriend, work, and other things.

You have now been reported to the FBI's terrorist tip line for threating to kill time.

parky76 I too think the FBI should monitor loony sites.
Yeah we wouldn't want them wasting valuable resources investigating real crimes, right?
Thanks again for supporting the fascist shift in America. Have a nice day.

[Hans]

http://a244.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/112/m_9f591f1c91e088a98f2608682c013b0b.jpg

Somebody better warn this guy

Swing Dangler - it's really a shift to post Maoist pacifism, you have simply been mislead by the MSM

[DGM]

Terral:
You can "defend your OP" here but you refuse to, why? You do not address points that have been raised concerning your "thesis" you simply repost the same thing and call us sheep.

I did not form my opinion on 9/11 from anything that 'Gravy' or any other person said. I was shown about a year ago (before joining here) the "angle cut" and being in that business I knew they were full of [rule 10]. To date no one in the "movement" has been able to support their conclusions with factual evidence. I didn't read the NIST report until Oct. of this year and I have never read the commission report (politics bore me).

[Drudgewire]

Those among you hiding ‘the’ 911Truth in your unrighteousness are just as guilty for doing ‘this’ (http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/humanremains.html) to We The People, as the inside-job bad guys that planned and carried out these 9/11 attacks, so please do not allow me to stand between you and the coming Judgment (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev%2020:11-15,%2021:8;&version=49;). 911Truthers have indeed worn out our welcome, because you prefer 911LIES more than anything else . . .

YOU'RE GOING TO HELL FOR NOT BELIEVING MY STUPID PARANOID DELUSIONS!! TAKE THAT JREF HERETICS!! http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/fist4su.gif





:dl: :dl: :dl: :dl:

[Hans]

YOU'RE GOING TO HELL FOR NOT BELIEVING MY STUPID PARANOID DELUSIONS!! TAKE THAT JREF HERETICS!! http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/fist4su.gif



http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2008-03-08_1986065698848320/movie_stars/heston/heston.jpg

Terral do you wear robes when you say, "I damn thee" or is this more of a general pontification?

[aggle-rithm]

Hi DGM:




I am reluctant to explain things to anyone here, because this JREF Board has more of its fair share of delusional ‘debunkers’ (heh (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/Bigsmile.jpg)) without any knowledge of ‘the 911Truth’ at all. ZERO. You have been working under the power of the deluding influence (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Thes%202:10-12;&version=49;) of Gravy and his DoD cohorts for so long, that the 911Truth has no meaning at all. You say ‘this’ (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/93crash2.jpg) and 'this' (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/17-93.jpg) is a picture of a crashed 100-ton Jetliner, when the evidence shows a picture of a 20-feet diameter empty hole in the ground (http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=JZekosYOmXc) (the movie (http://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/files/documents/Day_1_-_Pittsburg_Crash_01.swf)). You say ‘this’ (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/NoWayBaby.jpg) is a picture of yet another crashed 100-ton Jetliner, when nothing like that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKhBzAh_eeA) crashed anywhere near the Pentagon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C02dE5VKeck) on 9/11 or any other day. You say ‘this’ (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/WTC7Steel.jpg) 47-story overbuilt skyscraper collapsed demolition-style into its own footprint (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/wtc7-debris.jpg) from building fires (heh (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/YoSoFunny.gif)), when that is very much IMPOSSIBLE without precedent anywhere in the history of this planet. Here are some facts that prove beyond all doubt that Dylan Avery, all the LC boys, Killtown, Webfairy and all of their 911Movement (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?) cohorts are DoD operatives right along with their CIT chat-monkey (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/CIT_Video.jpg) cohorts. In fact, the new Loose Change Board (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/index/) is nothing more than a DoD/FBI Front making certain that 911LIES are king and nobody is ever brought to justice for planning and carrying out these 9/11 attacks against innocent Americans.

My “Fight 77 Never Crashed Near the Pentagon” Thread (here (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=14796)) was the most read topic on the Old Loose Change “Pentagon Forum” Board with over 6000 reads. My “WTC-7 Was Taken Down Using Controlled Demolition” Thread (here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/72336/1/#new)) continues to be the most read WTC-7 Thread in the New LC Forum, even though I am unable to defend my OP hypothesis, which is also true of my Flight 93 Topic here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/72189/1/#new) albeit narrowly. A look at the new LC Pentagon Forum Board (here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/forum/45288/)) shows the place is dominated by the CIT chat monkeys and their Light Pole stupidity, which derails the topic of what really hit the Pentagon at 9:32 AM to ‘SomeWhereElseVille.’ The fact is that these LC Boys care even less about what really hit the Pentagon than the professing JREF ‘debunkers’ (heh), which is typical of all DoD/FBI Counterintelligence Disinformation Cronies posing as puppets for the ‘inside-job’ bad guys that planned and carried out these 9/11 attacks. These LC Cronies are guilty of disobeying their own ridiculous COC guidelines, as you can see my offending post here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=34670&t=76910). Gideon replied to me saying, “Read the rules again, Terral, and knock off the personal attacks. See you in a week.” (here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=34718&t=76910)).

Okay, so a week has obviously passed since February 13, 2008, but I am still “BANNED!!!” :0). So what gives? Why would these LC 911Truthers (they are no such thing) ban one of their top posters for little or no reason at all? AE911Truth has just one “Demolition Supervisor” (http://www.ae911truth.org/supporters.php?g=XMISC#999528) among the members with qualifications to write on these WTC Topics, but the LC Boys see fit to toss me out with the garbage. Why? :0) Here is a News Flash for the ‘debunkers’ running around this joint: Killtown did the same thing at the 911Movement Board (explained here (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=18752) ) where I have been in Purgatory since last year. Painter did the same exact thing at PilotsForTruth.org (CIT_Aldo being an azz here (http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?showtopic=9269&st=15)), even though you can search all of my posts on all of these 911Truth-pretender Boards and find no reason for my banning at all. The common denominator in these (and other) cases is that I place the “First Explosion” at the Pentagon at 9:32 AM, according to the real FAA Timeline (here (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB165/faa5.pdf)), which just happens to be among my trashed threads on this JREF Board (here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=106155)).

The difference is that these JREF DoD bad guys also trash Flight 93 threads (mine is here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=95068)), because too much 911Truth is a bad thing around these parts. In case you are wondering, my 9:32 AM First Attack Topic received no replies from anyone at the LC Board (thread is here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/65803/1/#new)), because no DoD/FBI Counterintelligence Operative wants his name connected to any 9:32 AM Pentagon Time at all. The 9:31 AM and 9:32 AM times have been sanitized out of the Arlington County After-Action Report (here (http://www.arlingtonva.us/departments/Fire/edu/about/docs/after_report.pdf)) representing the DoD/FBI Disinformation Bible right along with other keywords (like ‘explosions’), which means they have no defense to my constant 9:32 AM First Explosion explanations. The DoD inside-job counterintelligence bad guys complain to the PilotsForTruth, 911Movement and Loose Change leadership cronies to have me removed from their midst, OR they will be forced to move on and peddle their disinformation wares elsewhere. The 911Truth-pretender/Front Movement is designed to go nowhere, which is the very reason you see ‘real’ 911Truthers run out of Dodge and CIT/DoD operatives taking center stage going round and round and round about their Light Pole (heh) Fantasies. The fake 911Movement is giving you easy targets to ‘debunk,’ so that your counterproposals have some resemblance of reality.

Even the cronies over at AE911Truth.org (http://www.ae911truth.org) and ScholarsForTruth.org (http://stj911.org/index.html) are running in place doing as close to ‘nothing’ as possible without one care in the world for what really hit the Pentagon any more than the typical JREF debunker. These are ‘Fronts’ for the DoD/FBI Counterintelligence bad guys working every day to make for damn sure that none of the real inside-job bad guys are ever brought to justice. They are only filling the space of real 911Truthers being displaced by the DoD Counterintelligence Propaganda making ‘you’ think that a real 911Truth Movement even exists, when NOTHING could be farther from ‘the’ 911Truth. I challenged Painter (PilotsForTruth (http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?act=idx) admin) over these things on the AE911Truth Board and exposed him as a DoD Counterintelligence bad guy, which lead to the AE911Truth Discussion Board being attacked in the first place. That action became the source of my banning from all of these 911Truth-pretender Boards being orchestrated by a single DoD handler working every day to micromanage Board content part of their inside-job counterintelligence/disinformation campaign. This explains why Killtown, the CIT Boys and the Loose Change Boys are all one big happy family on the New LC Board, because the DoD has streamlined operations in coordination with the next 9/11-like attack about to take place out in California; which accounts for the disappearance of other DoD operatives (like Gravy and Caustic Logic and Honway) preparing for Round 2.

The debunkers here feel some kind of victory over the 911Truth-pretenders, because that is exactly what they want you to believe; even though none of you can produce one picture of Flight 93 or Flight 77 crashed anywhere. You are being DUPED by the DoD/FBI operative bad guys running this Board ‘and’ their 911Truth-pretender counterparts running in place throughout this entire ‘do-nothing’ charade, so in the end the real inside-job bad guys get away with murdering innocent Americans and stealing over 10,000 dollars for every man, woman, child and illegal alien running around loose in this once great country. The difference for me is that I know ‘the’ 911Truth and I could not care less about what any of you believe one way or the other. According to your super-moderator, then anything I have posted on other Boards is “SPAM” if posted here and all of this has been presented elsewhere to my complete satisfaction. If you want to be led around by DoD cronies serving Senor Bushie and his inside-job bad guys, then mo-powa-2-ya. Your ‘Debunking’ and Cynicism of ‘the’ 911Truth has become your ‘god,’ so please do not allow anyone to stand in your way.

Those among you hiding ‘the’ 911Truth in your unrighteousness are just as guilty for doing ‘this’ (http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/humanremains.html) to We The People, as the inside-job bad guys that planned and carried out these 9/11 attacks, so please do not allow me to stand between you and the coming Judgment (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev%2020:11-15,%2021:8;&version=49;). 911Truthers have indeed worn out our welcome, because you prefer 911LIES more than anything else . . .

GL,

Terral

The mouse wheel is the greatest invention EVER!!

[Dave Rogers]

Just out of interest, Terral, is anyone but you a genuine member of the 9/11 truth movement?

Dave

[DGM]

Just out of interest, Terral, is anyone but you a genuine member of the 9/11 truth movement?

Dave
I'd like to see him answer this without a dozen embedded links. :jaw-dropp

[HawksFan]

Hi DGM:

<snipped blithering :words:

GL,

Terral

Good lord, it's like an avalanche of stupidity just fell around me burying me in a mountain of ignorance.

[8den]

The mouse wheel is the greatest invention EVER!!



http://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/20070515.gif




Terral EVERYONE IS DISINFO BUT YOU.

Question, why post at truther sites if they are all DoD disinfo groups?

[Drudgewire]

http://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/20070515.gif

:dl: :dl: :dl: :dl:

[EvilBiker]

I am reluctant to explain things to anyone here,

:words:

Terral

Embrace your reluctance!

[dudalb]

Evilbiker: When it comes to pure dedication to woo Terral reminds me of our old buddy over on the Science and Technology section ExtremeSkeptic .Both seem totally lost in their illusions.

[dudalb]

So Terral is so extreme that even the Truthers don't want anything to do with him?
Boy,that takes some doing.

[Drudgewire]

So Terral is so extreme that even the Truthers don't want anything to do with him?
Boy,that takes some doing.
Dude, HE'S TOO CRAZY FOR KILLTOWN!! :eek:

[Hans]

Dude, HE'S TOO CRAZY FOR KILLTOWN!! :eek:

Is this what the British would call, "barking mad"?

[Confuseling]

I don't believe we have a phrase for that, as it happens.

But don't feel bad; there are 300 million of you.

[EvilBiker]

Evilbiker: When it comes to pure dedication to woo Terral reminds me of our old buddy over on the Science and Technology section ExtremeSkeptic .Both seem totally lost in their illusions.

Argh. My synapses just pulled back in horror :boggled:

You are right - few reach these levels of delusion. They are steeped in fractal wrongness.

[Hokulele]

The mouse wheel is the greatest invention EVER!!


You bastard. I had Terral safely on ignore, and you do this to me.

[chillzero]

Let's not make this thread personal against an individual please. Remember to post on topic.