John McCain a Twoofer?

[JEROME DA GNOME]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w177/Chris_Rose_photos/JohnMagooMcCain.jpg

I am aghast!

[Tsukasa Buddha]

This deserves a thead?

[WildCat]

I usually only see pictures that blurry if Bigfoot is the subject.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

This deserves a thead?

What do you think his stance is on a new investigation?

[JEROME DA GNOME]

I usually only see pictures that blurry if Bigfoot is the subject.

Here is the video:

John McCain Takes Photos With 9/11 Truthers!
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The question is: Does anyone what a goober for President that can be talked into taking his picture with a bunch of goobers?

[WildCat]

What do you think his stance is on a new investigation?
What evidence is there that that is McCain and not a cardboard cutout or even someone who looks similar? It's too blurry to tell.

And if it is McCain, what is the evidence he even knew what signs people were holding up? For all I know the back side (seen by McCain) says "McCain 2008". Or that McCain knows that "Investigate 9/11" means "OMGINSIDEJOB!!!11!1!!!!11!1!1"?

In short, that pic proves nothing.

[WildCat]

Here is the video:

John McCain Takes Photos With 9/11 Truthers!
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OK, it's obvious from that that McCain didn't know what "Investigate 9/11" really stood for. He sure does now!

The point of this thread is...?

[JEROME DA GNOME]

The point of this thread is...?

The question is: Does anyone what a goober for President that can be talked into taking his picture with a bunch of goobers?

[David Wong]

Ron Paul would certainly never be caught in such company!

[gtc]

Font size 7 is really not epic enough to express the epicness of your fail. Not even a dozen recipes for kitten pie would express the epicness of your fail.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Font size 7 is really not epic enough to express the epicness of your fail. Not even a dozen recipes for kitten pie would express the epicness of your fail.

McCain's failure, not mine. I did not have my picture taken with a bunch of goobers whilst on the campaign trail.

[gtc]

McCain's failure, not mine. I did not have my picture taken with a bunch of goobers whilst on the campaign trail.

Actually this whole episode explodes any credibility the truth movement may have had.

Their impact is so miniscule that almost no one has heard about them. Not even the so-called NWO's candidate for President who is supposed to be running scared of the trooth movement.

I'm sorry but the truthers (are you still one by the way?) have failed spectacularly.

[WildCat]

The question is: Does anyone what a goober for President that can be talked into taking his picture with a bunch of goobers?
McCain has had his picture taken with bigger goobers:


http://home.mindspring.com/~chitaper/Paul_McCain.jpg

[Skibum]

How did they manage to get every troother in the US together for the photo?

ETA- The guy on the right (my guess would be killtown, seeing how he's trying to hide behind his sign) looks like he peed in is shorts.

[Brainster]

The video is legit; James B linked to it over the summer. Quoting from Barack Obama's book The Audacity of Hope:

"If I saw two people standing together on a street corner, I went over and handed them literature."

McCain wrote the foreword (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/3491861.html?page=3) to the Popular Mechanics book on the 9-11 fruitcakes.

We would like to think there was something more at work on September 11--something hidden, more sophisticated, something as grand as the lives so easily destroyed. Those unsatisfied with the ordinary truth of the attacks have concocted stories more fanciful, more conspiratorial than the events as we know them. Others have done the same for more nefarious reasons. Some, accustomed to viewing U.S. actions as the wellspring of global problems, cannot accept that others wrought evil here. Political extremists peddle explanations that support their ideologies. And still others deliberately fabricate damaging tales.

I'm inclined to cut him a break on this incident, but I really wish he'd denounced them as Bill Clinton has done.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Actually this whole episode explodes any credibility the truth movement may have had.

No, it damages McCain's credibility.


I'm sorry but the truthers (are you still one by the way?) have failed spectacularly.

McCain has failed spectacularly. BTW, when did you stop beating your wife?

[JEROME DA GNOME]

The video is legit; James B linked to it over the summer. Quoting from Barack Obama's book The Audacity of Hope:

"If I saw two people standing together on a street corner, I went over and handed them literature."

McCain wrote the foreword (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/3491861.html?page=3) to the Popular Mechanics book on the 9-11 fruitcakes.



I'm inclined to cut him a break on this incident, but I really wish he'd denounced them as Bill Clinton has done.


This incident demonstrates that McCain is clueless. He obviously knows what 9/11 truth on the shirts means, he wrote the forward to the Popular Mechanics book.

[Upchurch]

I have no intention of voting for McCain, but he clearly didn't know what the signs were about for the first picture and only asked midway through the second. I don't see this as a failure of judgment so much as a being a little slow on the uptake. There is nothing in any of McCain's positions that would lead me to believe that he thinks 9/11 was an inside job.

If anything, I'd blame his handlers who could read the signs for not picking up on what they said.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

I have no intention of voting for McCain, but he clearly didn't know what the signs were about for the first picture and only asked midway through the second. I don't see this as a failure of judgment so much as a being a little slow on the uptake. There is nothing in any of McCain's positions that would lead me to believe that he thinks 9/11 was an inside job.

If anything, I'd blame his handlers who could read the signs for not picking up on what they said.

Exactly. Why would anyone want someone to be president that is both slow on the uptake and someone who hires handlers which are also slow on the uptake?

[Upchurch]

Why would anyone want someone to be president that is both slow on the uptake ...
That's not fair. There is no indication that that is the norm for McCain. He was on his way to and from something. His mind was probably on something that was actually important rather than analyzing the people in yet another photo op.

[Cleon]

No, it damages McCain's credibility.

He has credibility?

[GStan]

Exactly. Why would anyone want someone to be president that is both slow on the uptake and someone who hires handlers which are also slow on the uptake?

He's not slow on the uptake.

He's just pandering, for political expediency, to yet another historically untapped voting demographic.

Dumb@sses.;)

[Upchurch]

He has credibility?
Not so much, but not because of this. This is a cheap shot.

[kosai]

Forget twoofers, here's the picture you needed Jerome:

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5237/mills650ip3.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mills650ip3.jpg)

[dudalb]

He has credibility?

As much as Obama and Hilary.
Ya know, I am beginning to think the best weapon the GOP might have is Democratic Overconfidence.

[joobz]

As much as Obama and Hilary.
Ya know, I am beginning to think the best weapon the GOP might have is Democratic Overconfidence.
I agree.
If the GOP only cares about winning (and not which candidate they have), McCain is their best bet. He's was the most likely person to get the independant vote and he could even get some of the democrat vote.

It'll be an interesting election.

[T.A.M.]

SO the new standard of who would be an acceptable president is based on whom he/she does and does not share a photo with?

TAM:)

[KoihimeNakamura]

JErome is trying to show us how our labeling Ron Paul as a troofer was wrong. However.. there's no evidence McCain supports them.

[Pardalis]

JErome is trying to show us how our labeling Ron Paul as a troofer was wrong. However.. there's no evidence McCain supports them.

I think he is referring to the picture of Ron Paul with white nationalists.

http://lonestartimes.com/images/2007/12/rp-and-db.jpg

It's true that taking a picture with someone in a crowd doesn't necessarily mean you support them. Politicians take pictures with a lot of people during campaigns, they surely don't have the time and resources to check on everyone's background.

[plumjam]

I usually only see pictures that blurry if Bigfoot is the subject.

Perhaps the same applies at the other end of the body. Bigface footage.

(Ouch, perhaps I'm being a little cruel) :p

[WildCat]

Politicians take pictures with a lot of people during campaigns, they surely don't have the time and resources to check on everyone's background.
This is the mother of all of those! Of course, it's the wife of a politician but holy smokes!

http://home.mindspring.com/~chitaper/gacy_carter.jpg

[T.A.M.]

Yes well I think RP was a little more involved with the truthers, their leaders (AJ) and their Ilk, then simply photo ops. When he finishes his run, you will see what I mean.

TAM:)

[Tricky]

Look at those shirts. Basic black and white. What is that guy holding in his hand? Looks like a whistle.

Those aren't troofers. Those are NFL Referees!:jaw-dropp

I am aghast that John McCain would let himself be identified with this conspiracy!

[JEROME DA GNOME]

JErome is trying to show us how our labeling Ron Paul as a troofer was wrong. However.. there's no evidence McCain supports them.

Almost correct.

As we see, anyone can imply claims.


Kinda' like: When did you stop beating your wife?

[JEROME DA GNOME]

I am happy that people realized the fallacy when it is perpetrated upon a popular figure.

I do wonder if the same logic is applied when the figure is unpopular.

[joobz]

I am happy that people realized the fallacy when it is perpetrated upon a popular figure.

I do wonder if the same logic is applied when the figure is unpopular.
I assume you are merely restating your sig line.


By the way, that's definitely the nature of bias and something we try not to do, but human nature tends to kick in.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

I assume you are merely restating your sig line.


By the way, that's definitely the nature of bias and something we try not to do, but human nature tends to kick in.

Directly on point.

Well Done!

:)

[gtc]

McCain has failed spectacularly.

You keep saying it like it was true.

BTW, when did you stop beating your wife?

Hmm, I could have sworn you were a truther when you arrived here. I shall dig further and see.

Maybe you weren't. Some of your early posts made it look like you were (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=97218) but others appear to have been sarcastic. OK. I am happy to concede that 9/11 is one of the CTs that you don't support (unlike the number of holocaust dead and the causes of the civil war).

[JEROME DA GNOME]

You keep saying it like it was true.



Hmm, I could have sworn you were a truther when you arrived here. I shall dig further and see.

Maybe you weren't. Some of your early posts made it look like you were (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=97218) but others appear to have been sarcastic. OK. I am happy to concede that 9/11 is one of the CTs that you don't support (unlike the number of holocaust dead and the causes of the civil war).


Knowing that the Germans exterminated 4 million Jews is a conspiracy theory?

Knowing that State sovereignty was the cause of the American civil war is a conspiracy theory?

You have a strange definition of conspiracy theory.

[Loss Leader]

Knowing that the Germans exterminated 4 million Jews is a conspiracy theory?


Thanks for clearing that up, Jerome. Any word yet on whether my great uncle and his family were just part of the accounting error? We haven't heard from them for seventy years but knowing that 33% of reported deaths really didn't occur is giving us hope.


Knowing that State sovereignty was the cause of the American civil war is a conspiracy theory?


Yes, the states needed to protect their sovereign right to own black people.

[Spindrift]

Knowing that the Germans exterminated 4 million Jews is a conspiracy theory?

Knowing that State sovereignty was the cause of the American civil war is a conspiracy theory?

You have a strange definition of conspiracy theory.

You're right, they're not conspiracy theories. They're just examples of how wrong you can be.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

You're right, they're not conspiracy theories. They're just examples of how wrong you can be.

Good to know that you have all the facts of history and there is to be zero questioning of said facts.


You are aware that the winners propagate the facts of history which suit them, are you not?

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Thanks for clearing that up, Jerome. Any word yet on whether my great uncle and his family were just part of the accounting error? We haven't heard from them for seventy years but knowing that 33% of reported deaths really didn't occur is giving us hope.

33%?

Check your math, esquire.

Main stream historians peg the number at 5.1 million.

Why is the exact quantity so important to you?



Yes, the states needed to protect their sovereign right to own black people.


The north did not free their slaves. So in your world the war was fought to stop the south from having slaves, yet the north could keep their slaves.


It is a shame when history discounts ones reality, is it not?

[gtc]

It is a shame when history discounts ones reality, is it not?


Only if one's able to face up to the facts.

[CptColumbo]

If you are interested in Sen. McCain's views regarding 9-11 CT I would suggest reading his introduction to the Popular Mechanics book Debunking 9-11 Myths.