Worth a second look - Jesus Camp

[billydkid]

This is old news, but it is heartwarming (creepy) enough to warrant a second look. The speaking in tongues bit is what really slays me. Welcome to creepy America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvIOPiKFrs

[Moochie]

I like where the camp was held: Devil's Lake. I kid you not!

M.

[Nihilus]

10 (ish) year old kid saying he was "saved" at age 5.

Disturbing.

[four elevener]

Hello?! Children of the corn? Or even Village of the Damned or the Mickey Mouse club? As bad as I felt for those kids, they were hella creepy. I hope some of them at least manage to escape when they grow up, and find a bright and happy future.

[Safe-Keeper]

I've watched the whole documentary, and it's terrifying, enraging and disturbing all at the same time.

[Blackwell]

I've watched the whole documentary, and it's terrifying, enraging and disturbing all at the same time.

I saw the movie about a month ago, and I agree.

It would be interesting to see a follow-up on these kids in a few years.

[sackett]

...It would be interesting to see a follow-up on these kids in a few years.

Second that. I would expect some of them to backslide clear out of the playground. Take that little girl who had the savvy to distinguish between fighting for Jesus and literal fighting: I don't worry too much about her.

It's the adults I worry about. A selfish worry, of course. They can own guns; worse, they can vote.

[Blackwell]

Second that. I would expect some of them to backslide clear out of the playground. Take that little girl who had the savvy to distinguish between fighting for Jesus and literal fighting: I don't worry too much about her.

Yeah, I would think a lot of them would rebel at least to some extent. The ones I worried about were the preacher kid with the tail, and the younger blond boy who they showed crying once or twice. He seemed pretty emotionally frail.

[Safe-Keeper]

It depends, I think, on how deeply they really believe that there's no happiness to be found outside of the church. Not that I would know, I've never been in a sick sect in my life.

[thaiboxerken]

Does this type of indoctrination qualify as abuse? In my opinion, it does. They are crippling their children.

[KateHL]

I thought it was funny when one of the children mentioned 'dead churches'. That's the sort of church I grew up in. If I had to grow up in church I'm glad it was a dead church and not a jump-up-and-shout snake-handling speaking-in-tongues sort of church.

The one boy who talked about hating atheists made me sad. He almost sounded philosophical what with talking about spiritual candy but then you realize he's just repeating the same things he's heard over and over. If not, that boy has a way with words that's wasted on religion. I believe he was the one who mentioned being saved at five. Sad. I was singing Jesus Loves Me without any concept of the meaning behind the words at that age ... because I was having too much fun scraping my knees falling out of treehouses and the like.

[Safe-Keeper]

Does this type of indoctrination qualify as abuse? In my opinion, it does. They are crippling their children.They certainly are crippling their ability to think logically - which is evident when debating adult fundies.

[Gate2501]

My favorite part of the entire movie was near the start.

The immense woman that runs the camp was preaching, her face red, most likely from high blood pressure and diabetes, sweat dripping from her undulating hog jowls. She then proceeds to tell the kids that most Christians are just fat and lazy! Too fat and lazy to get up off the couch and evangelize for Jeebus!

I thought it was hilarious that she would include language about being overweight in her sermon.

[Safe-Keeper]

Or maybe it's the trademark fundie self-loathing. That's a possibility, too.

[Mobyseven]

I want to see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I want to see them as radically laying down their lives for the Gospel as they are over in Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places, you know, because we have ... excuse me, but we have the truth!

There's also a truly chilling quote near the end of the film where she basically says, "Democracy is good, but theocracy would be better."

[UnrepentantSinner]

I dunno, "Jesusland uber Alles" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

[Achán hiNidráne]

The immense woman that runs the camp was preaching, her face red, most likely from high blood pressure and diabetes, sweat dripping from her undulating hog jowls. She then proceeds to tell the kids that most Christians are just fat and lazy! Too fat and lazy to get up off the couch and evangelize for Jeebus!

I thought it was hilarious that she would include language about being overweight in her sermon.

I think it's hilarious that she's a preacher and believes that the Bible should be taken literally when her "Good Book," the book that is the non-negotiable word of her infallible deity, clearly says:

14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35


Pastor Becky... follow your religion's advice and SHUT THE $#%@ UP!

[Achán hiNidráne]

Does this type of indoctrination qualify as abuse? In my opinion, it does. They are crippling their children.

<Pink Floyd>
Hey! Reverend... LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!
</Pink Floyd>

[HarryKeogh]

I think it's hilarious that she's a preacher and believes that the Bible should be taken literally when her "Good Book," the book that is the non-negotiable word of her infallible deity, clearly says...SNIP

yeah, don't you love how they pick and choose which lines of the bible to adhere to?

First you choose your god, then the text you want to follow, then you decide which passages you're going to follow. And then you proclaim that everyone who thinks differently is going to hell!

[Bob Klase]

There's also a truly chilling quote near the end of the film where she basically says, "Democracy is good, but theocracy would be better."

I just saw this on Bio. In line with that quote was something she said to the radio guy, "the problem with democracy is that you have to give everyone equal freedom". And she fails to see any similarities between Christian fundies and Islamic fundies.

[bokonon]

I dunno, "Jesusland uber Alles" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Slogans-r-us recommends "Christland uber Alles."

[Beerina]

My favorite part of the entire movie was near the start.

The immense woman that runs the camp was preaching, her face red, most likely from high blood pressure and diabetes, sweat dripping from her undulating hog jowls. She then proceeds to tell the kids that most Christians are just fat and lazy! Too fat and lazy to get up off the couch and evangelize for Jeebus!

I thought it was hilarious that she would include language about being overweight in her sermon.

It's interesting that waving your hands and blowing words out your mouth about a fraudulent concept can net you a decent income, without actually having to do much.

If there were a god, I'd like to hold him responsible for allowing to exist that local minima in the gradient descent space of human survival.

[Achán hiNidráne]

10 (ish) year old kid saying he was "saved" at age 5.

Disturbing.

My pithy, snarky reply:

"Kid, at age 5 you were still crapping in your pants."

[Redtail]

I thought it was funny when one of the children mentioned 'dead churches'. That's the sort of church I grew up in. If I had to grow up in church I'm glad it was a dead church and not a jump-up-and-shout snake-handling speaking-in-tongues sort of church.


The Jump-n-shout churches were funny as hell when I was a kid. I thought that Blues Brothers scene was a just a joke until I went to one.

The movie was creepy but I was cracking up throughout because of my experience at church camp. I was 15 and my parents decided to take a second honeymoon and my aunt Nina talked them into send me to church camp with her son insted of letting me stay at home. I was pissed (American pissed) and cousin Rob just kept telling me "trust me, it'll be great."

First night, after the councilors left us in our cabins, make out party.
Second night, the same.
Third night, THANK YOU AUNT NINA!:D

[Mobyseven]

The Jump-n-shout churches were funny as hell when I was a kid. I thought that Blues Brothers scene was a just a joke until I went to one.

The movie was creepy but I was cracking up throughout because of my experience at church camp. I was 15 and my parents decided to take a second honeymoon and my aunt Nina talked them into send me to church camp with her son insted of letting me stay at home. I was pissed (American pissed) and cousin Rob just kept telling me "trust me, it'll be great."

First night, after the councilors left us in our cabins, make out party.
Second night, the same.
Third night, THANK YOU AUNT NINA!:D

Are you sure you didn't mistakenly go on a Jewish camp?

[Showmeproof]

There is something terribly wrong when you address a cardboard cut-out of George Bush!

[Redtail]

Are you sure you didn't mistakenly go on a Jewish camp?

Funny you should mention that, my fiance and her sister went to jewish camp with their step sister and were taunted by being called goyum(sp?). They hated their stepsister after that...

[Mobyseven]

Funny you should mention that, my fiance and her sister went to jewish camp with their step sister and were taunted by being called goyum(sp?). They hated their stepsister after that...

...well. I evidently had a better experience on Jewish camp than they did.

[DOC]

Well, I've only read a few posts, but if there are any "spirit filled" Christians out there, Jesus camp is a "spirit filled" movie and I would recommend it.

And I can definitely understand why non-believers are flipped out by this movie.

[Mashuna]

Well, I've only read a few posts, but if there are any "spirit filled" Christians out there, Jesus camp is a "spirit filled" movie and I would recommend it.

And I can definitely understand why non-believers are flipped out by this movie.

So this is the type of Christianity you approve of?