We are out of nature

[idunno]

If there is nothing divine or if we arent clones from some other Alien species why is it that humans seem to be the only animals out of tune with nature. Why cant a human baby survive on his own,unlike babies of other species?
It seeems nature doesnt give a ***** about us

[Hokulele]

Have you ever heard of baby kangaroos?

[idunno]

Have you ever heard of baby kangaroos?

you mean they wouldnt survive without their mums? Are there more??

[Terry]

you mean they wouldnt survive without their mums? Are there more??

practically every bird species?

[Nihilus]

you mean they wouldnt survive without their mums? Are there more??
I'm confused why you are under the impression that a generous portion of the animal species' newborn are conceivably independent of need of the mother's care...

[idunno]

practically every bird species?

then that indian guru osho lied when he said we were.

[idunno]

I'm confused why you are under the impression that a generous portion of the animal species' newborn are conceivably independent of need of the mother's care...

what i meant is,if their parents died would they survive without help?. I know many do,but not human babies

[Nihilus]

then that indian guru osho lied when he said we were.
Conveniently, the one defining characteristic of the homo sapiens sapiens species (self-reflective, introspective thought) allows for the development of the concept of elitism from other species.

[Terry]

You may find K-selection enlightening. There is a spectrum of reproductive strategy ranging from pumping out thousands of independent offspring at a time down to spending years raising a single one. Humans are at the K end here.

[Gate2501]

then that indian guru osho lied when he said we were.

Might I suggest fact checking before stating something as true when that "something" was said by a religious wackbag? The man was not a biologist.

[idunno]

Might I suggest fact checking before stating something as true when that "something" was said by a religious wackbag? The man was not a biologist.

yeh but his followers were shrinks, doctors,lawyers, you name it

[Gate2501]

yeh but his followers were shrinks, doctors,lawyers, you name it

Same for any major religion or movement, save maybe the shrinks in the case of Scientology! Having educated followers means squat. Compartmentalization allows for otherwise rational, intelligent individuals to fall victim to faith in unobservable phenomena.

[JonWhite]

yeh but his followers were shrinks, doctors,lawyers, you name it


Smart people can believe in stupid things.

Or in Osho's case, very stupid things.

[Moochie]

We are out of coffee.

M.

[Olowkow]

you mean they wouldnt survive without their mums? Are there more??

Many more. They are called mammals because they feed their young with "mammary glands". Only mummy has the mams.
Penguins are even more interesting...they need a mom and a dad.

[MG1962]

Many more. They are called mammals because they feed their young with "mammary glands". Only mummy has the mams.
Penguins are even more interesting...they need a mom and a dad.

And seahories :) They need the mumma and da pappa

[JoeTheJuggler]

what i meant is,if their parents died would they survive without help?. I know many do,but not human babies
You're right when a human baby is orphaned it would die without being raised by other members of the community.

The same is true with the other great apes. (In fact, the same is true with a great many animals--especially mammals.) So were they all created in God's image or cloned from an alien?

BTW how would being cloned from an alien affect whether or not orphaned baby animals could survive without help?

[ImaginalDisc]

Nearly all mammals requires some time nursing with their mothers, and most of those mothers to to great lengths to protect their offspring. However, for the mammals with the longest mean time between offspring, do not look at humans, but Orangutans, who give birth once every eight years when mature, which is far less frequent than humans.

Ergo, by your logic, god is an orange furred ape.

[sophia8]

then that indian guru osho lied when he said we were.
I realised that Osho (or Guru Rajneesh as he was then) was an ignorant idiot thirty years ago, when a friend insisted I read one of his books. Amongst many other foolish and plain wrong statements, the Guru wrote that babies are asleep all the time in the womb. Clearly, the fool had never been pregnant.

[EyeOn]

If there is nothing divine or if we arent clones from some other Alien species why is it that humans seem to be the only animals out of tune with nature. Why cant a human baby survive on his own,unlike babies of other species?
It seeems nature doesnt give a ***** about us

There are countless species that have babies without the ability to survive on their own without their parents. This includes all mammals, most birds, and some fish. There are a few baby bugs in the world too that need care like ants, termites and bees. Their larvae are tended to by most of the residents of their nests.

Humans are very much a part of nature. We fill a niche in life as part of the earth just as every other organism on the planet. We exist, because we have adapted to the nature around us. Other animals exist, because they have adapted to the nature around them.

For the sake of self-preservation, we, as the human species and every other mammal out there, are better off having offfspring that rely on parents for a while outside the womb, because carrying babies till they are mature would kill the mother being far too big to pass through the birth canal and the baby would die without the mother, thus not a good survival tactic for the species.

[Complexity]

idunno - where do you get this stuff?

Please read some good books instead of whatever you have been doing.

[fromdownunder]

what i meant is,if their parents died would they survive without help?. I know many do,but not human babies

Actually the exact opposite is true. Human babies who lose their parents have a far better chance of survival than non-social species. We tend to look after our own, because that is one of many ways that evolution has helped us survive as a species.

Olowkow mentioned penguins, and if you ever watched the doco "March of the Penquins" you will find that if one of the parents gets chewed up while searching for food, the chick will die inevitably. Pretty well all bird species are the same. Many animal males will actually kill a new born member of its own species in order for the mother to come into season again so that he can pass on HIS personal genetic inheritance.

This is a somewhat long winded way of saying that the source for your OP is full of it, and has nor got a clue what he is talking about.

Norm

[Tricky]

I realised that Osho (or Guru Rajneesh as he was then) was an ignorant idiot thirty years ago, when a friend insisted I read one of his books. Amongst many other foolish and plain wrong statements, the Guru wrote that babies are asleep all the time in the womb. Clearly, the fool had never been pregnant.
They're very restless sleepers.:D

[Kotatsu]

I'm confused why you are under the impression that a generous portion of the animal species' newborn are conceivably independent of need of the mother's care...

Maybe because they are? Only a vanishing small percentage --- or perhaps permillage, if that is a word --- of the animal species of the word have anything to do with their young after hatching (or equivalent). Apart from most monkeys and apes (and other mammals), cichlids and related fishes, most birds, social insects, aphids, some spiders, and some other groups, maternal or paternal care is unknown.

[fuelair]

then that indian guru osho lied
with which word in the phrase you have there would you disagree with at any time?
If an Indian Guru comes to a western country to open a school/center, he is, by default lying. Guru is teacher, not crass money bringer inner. The ones that remain in India (etc.) are simply mistaken. The ones that come out of India to make money (or "allow" themselves to make money when they etc.) are liars. Simple process.

[Ron_Tomkins]

In the list of trolls, I find you the most uninteresting of them all.