NDEs

[idunno]

Some skeptics compare conscienciousness with digestion to argue that the former is not independent from the brain,or what we call soul.
But digestion is not self aware.Its a totally different thing, though like conscienciousness it involves a proccess

[Moochie]

Some skeptics compare conscienciousness with digestion to argue that the former is not independent from the brain,or what we call soul.
But digestion is not self aware.Its a totally different thing, though like conscienciousness it involves a proccess


Hand me the Tums, please.

M.

[bjornart]

I swallowing your post would give me more fibre than I need in my diet, and the wrong kind.

[Lord Muck oGentry]

Some skeptics compare conscienciousness with digestion to argue that the former is not independent from the brain,or what we call soul.
But digestion is not self aware.Its a totally different thing, though like conscienciousness it involves a proccess

Your consciousness of conscientiousness is hardly conscionable...

[Complexity]

idunno - go back to the kiddies' table.

[Zep]

An educated hope wets the minor around the ringing disease. Idunno corrects skeptics. Skeptics worries about the noticeable church. The creep paces into skeptics. Skeptics speaks near idunno. Idunno returns.

[lupus_in_fabula]

Some skeptics compare conscienciousness with digestion to argue that the former is not independent from the brain,or what we call soul.
But digestion is not self aware.Its a totally different thing, though like conscienciousness it involves a proccess

How do you know consciousness is self aware? That is to say: is it consciousness that creates self-awareness or is it the fact that there is self-awareness which creates the sense of consciousness? When a person has lost any sense of self, can that person be said to be conscious, or is it only that the person is simply not conscious of the self? But if there’s no self-awareness, what is then meant by consciousness? Can we paraphrase Forrest Gump here as simply say: “Conscious is what conscious does.”? Finally, if something is aware of being conscious, where did that awareness come from? Can we bite our own teeth?

…now I think I’m slowly moving towards unconsciousness... :faint:

[the PC apeman]

Apparently, some consciousness does produce farts.

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Some skeptics compare conscienciousness with digestion to argue that the former is not independent from the brain,or what we call soul.
But digestion is not self aware.Its a totally different thing, though like conscienciousness it involves a proccess
So what, and what does this have to do with NDEs?

~~ Paul

[XBoxWarrior]

Some skeptics compare conscienciousness with digestion to argue that the former is not independent from the brain,or what we call soul.
But digestion is not self aware.Its a totally different thing, though like conscienciousness it involves a proccess

This appears to be a challenge to "Iamme"'s posts...

Even the mis-spelled words rival the original...

I am going to have some black beans and rice, with a tortilla, and VERY hot serrano pepper salsa, and consider this post further...

X

ETA: the title and the OP have not one thing (nothing) in common.

[Moochie]

ETA: the title and the OP have not one thing (nothing) in common.

Except, perhaps, when combined they produce an emetic.

M.

[idunno]

idunno - go back to the kiddies' table.

and you go back to your redneck ranch:D

[Beerina]

Some skeptics compare conscienciousness with digestion to argue that the former is not independent from the brain,or what we call soul.
But digestion is not self aware.Its a totally different thing, though like conscienciousness it involves a proccess


That the subjective perceptual experience we call "consciousness" seems to have properties that are currently not explainable by physics is a problem, it's true.

But that does not mean one throws up one's hands and says "goddidit".

Here's a guy (http://www.klab.caltech.edu/~koch/crick-koch-cc-97.html) who thinks the time is ripe to start analyzing the Neural Correlates of Consciousness (NCCs), the brain activity that happens while consciousneess is "occuring". Only when how the brain operates is fully (or largely) understood can we then hypothesize what's going on, and what, if anything, is missing from physics that requires further modification to physics.

There has been much debate within the AI community about consciousness. Some think it's a purely data-driven phenomenon, and therefore a computer that simulated a brain would give rise to consciousness. Searle does not feel that. He points out that consciousness, whatever it is, arises from a configuration of atoms and energies, such as the brain. It is a real phenomenon. And therefore a simulation would no more give rise to consciousness than a simulation of a candle would give off real-world light.

But might there be other machines that could give rise to consciousness? "Sure!" he says. "We are one such machine." He just rejects the notion that consciousness arises purely from information processing.

[dglas]

I had an NDE once, and then I got better.

Didn't...
Win Powerball!!!
...though.

[slingblade]

When he was around 17, one of my stepsons dressed as Death for Halloween. But the kid wasn't very tall, so the costume kind of puddled around his ankles, and made it hard for him to walk.

He said, "I don't think I make a very good Death."

I said, "No. You're more like a Near-Death Experience."

We still laugh about it. :D