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JCM
19th March 2008, 06:58 PM
What was the kink in the middle of the roof of WTC 7 just prior to its collapse from?
If this has been addressed elsewhere I'm sorry

PhantomWolf
19th March 2008, 07:04 PM
What was the kink in the middle of the roof of WTC 7 just prior to its collapse from?
If this has been addressed elsewhere I'm sorry

You mean the one that was there after the collapse had already begun and the eastern mechanical penthouse had vanished inside the building?

JCM
19th March 2008, 07:12 PM
So it was the eastern mechanical penthouse?

WildCat
19th March 2008, 07:20 PM
It's what happens when the building slowly warps out of place due to fires weakening the steel supports.

PhantomWolf
19th March 2008, 07:24 PM
So it was the eastern mechanical penthouse?

No the mechanical penthouse was likely around floor 45 when the kink really shows up. The trouble is that most Truther videoes deliberately remove the first 10-15seconds of the collapse and so start with the kink there and collapse well underway, a lot even start after the western mechanical penthouse has started to drop into the buildings interior, they just show the very last part, the Northern facade falling.

The kink is caused by the buildings structure giving way inside of it, the collapse that allowed the eastern penthouse to fall inside the building creates the kink because the center of the building has slumped downwards as the collaspe starts.

Cl1mh4224rd
19th March 2008, 08:04 PM
What was the kink in the middle of the roof of WTC 7 just prior to its collapse from?


Where'd you get this idea? I mean, even if you ignore the penthouses, that kink only appears as the bulk of the building begins collapsing. Certainly not "just prior".

Walter Ego
19th March 2008, 09:36 PM
Where'd you get this idea? I mean, even if you ignore the penthouses, that kink only appears as the bulk of the building begins collapsing. Certainly not "just prior".

In the 'truther' edit, yes. In the real world, no.

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%20IIC%20-%20WTC%207%20Collapse%20Final.pdf (page 26).

Global collapse begins 8 seconds after movement of east penthouse. 7 seconds (approximately) after the ‘kink’ appears.

PhantomWolf
19th March 2008, 09:45 PM
In the 'truther' edit, yes. In the real world, no.

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%20IIC%20-%20WTC%207%20Collapse%20Final.pdf (page 26).

Global collapse begins 8 seconds after movement of east penthouse. 7 seconds (approximately) after the ‘kink’ appears.

Depends on which kink he means. I'm assuming the one that they usually point to in the roofline after the penthouses are gone just as the rest of the building starts to fall. If he means the one in the top of the eastern penthouse as it's going, that was cuased by that part of the collapse.

WildCat
19th March 2008, 09:48 PM
And the firemen noticed a kink up the side of the building for at least an hour before it finally collapsed.

leftysergeant
21st March 2008, 04:17 PM
The main support for the roof was up the center of the building. Part of the support system failed from one side. This started dragging the roof down unevenly.

It appears to me that the roof may have broken at that particular point because there is evidence that something heavy impacted right there during the collapse of the north tower.

Nothing really at all odd about it.

1337m4n
21st March 2008, 05:52 PM
What was the kink in the middle of the roof of WTC 7 just prior to its collapse from?
If this has been addressed elsewhere I'm sorry

Define "kink".

Unsecured Coins
21st March 2008, 09:18 PM
Define "kink".


2 rubber chickens, a hula hoop, a tiki torch and some diving flippers. I go any further, and I'll get a yellow card

LashL
22nd March 2008, 01:13 AM
I go any further, and I'll get a yellow card

Damn, just when it was beginning to get interesting.

Foolmewunz
22nd March 2008, 01:31 AM
2 rubber chickens, a hula hoop, a tiki torch and some diving flippers. I go any further, and I'll get a yellow card


Well, I'm ready with most (I've added a couple of things and the chickens wandered off with the hula hoop)....


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Back on topic..... JCM, maybe you could post a still of the particular kink you're talking about. Most of us recognize the sequence of the collapse from the various videos and I'm sure someone could give you a better answer if we had a visual reference.