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rbairos
21st March 2008, 12:17 AM
Does anyone know anything about this kid on youtube claiming to everyone
he's wowwed the people at the JREF?

youtube.com user: itschancepsych


watch?v=1C24osuWQqw

(sorry can't post url links yet..)


Is he completely delusional or is his video at least based
on contacting the jref?

Thanks
Rob.

jimtron
21st March 2008, 12:28 AM
Watching it now...here's the URL:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1C24osuWQqw

ETA: and here he's "challenging" Randi:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IWlWtjtWISw&feature=related

Elvis666
21st March 2008, 02:08 AM
With his amazing abilities, couldn't he try reading the mind of someone with a basic ability to speak proper English? And what's with the claim that he doesn't know anything about playing cards?

William Smith
21st March 2008, 05:46 AM
I posted in two of his threads, pointed him to the JREF home page and invited him to join this forum.

(I had a hard time posting my comments on YouTube. Did that happen to you, too? I noticed some YouTubers disable posting comments to avoid criticism or getting in touch with "reality". Could that apply here? I switched off my inner cynic for the last hour, will reengage it as of this second.)

William Smith
21st March 2008, 06:17 AM
I checked if my comment inviting him - in two different video pages - was posted: Still was not. Will try again later.

Here's the content of said comment:

Please go to www.randi.org

Look for the menu "Quick Links" on the left side, then click on "Million $ Challenge".

Then click on "Click here to see the application".

Follow the instruction to ensure you hand in a proper application and you can move on to a controlled test of your claimed ability.

I suggest again you register at the JREF Forum.

If you are sincere about the process of proving your claimed ability, we will do our best to help you move towards a controlled test and the million.

Moochie
21st March 2008, 12:33 PM
He looks like a kid... being a kid. Probably amuses his friends.

M.

jimtron
21st March 2008, 03:34 PM
I sent him a message via Youtube, with a link to the Challenge application and FAQ. Doubt that will do any good, of course...

robinson
21st March 2008, 04:00 PM
This is really sad. Reduced to trolling Youtube for challenge applicants.

rbairos
21st March 2008, 04:30 PM
I don't like it. It inspires other psychics and delusionists to rally around and support him based on non-truths. His lies become other peoples misconceptions.

jimtron
21st March 2008, 04:40 PM
I don't like it. It inspires other psychics and delusionists to rally around and support him based on non-truths. His lies become other peoples misconceptions.

I agree. If someone announces in public that they want to take the challenge, they should be encouraged to learn about it and to apply. And if his claims are bogus, he should be called on it. There is widespread misinformation about Randi in the woo community (the money's not really there, etc).

William Smith
21st March 2008, 06:18 PM
I tried at least a dozen times - seriously - to post the comment I quoted above in the threads jimtron linked.
I even registered under a different user name: vollassibrosius.
That's usually a no-no, I know, but I simply wanted to get the comment posted. No luck. Hm.

If I had to venture a guess, I'd say he's baiting people - trying to increasing his self-importance - and he is very well knowing it.

Of course, around this very time in the Western Civilisation, circa one point one billion people celebrate the death and resurrection of a - very likely imagined - figure.

William Smith
21st March 2008, 06:21 PM
Another thought: Could one of you kind people please try to post my comment? I generously grant permission to anyone to use my words from post #05 unedited.

Perhaps you will have more "luck".

jimtron
21st March 2008, 07:34 PM
"I'm the chosen one...I'm the Indigo Child...I can pass your test...I'm not sure how to sign up...I'm willing to sign up...you'll be amazed...Mr. Randi,if you see this video, contact me...I'm going to blow you away"

I tried leaving a comment too, politely pointing him to the rules and application. Maybe Youtube users must approve comments before they show up?

William Smith
21st March 2008, 07:35 PM
What the H is with this subforum today? Good Charlotte, er, Friday tiredness? Come on!

Come on!

rbairos
21st March 2008, 10:39 PM
I posted a few comments. They've all disappeared except for one.

rjh01
22nd March 2008, 01:19 AM
I tried to leave a comment and had problems. Very strange.

Edit This appears to be a problem with youtube rather than anything else as I cannot leave a comment for something else.

William Smith
22nd March 2008, 05:59 AM
I can leave comments on other videos. Easily, as they are visible within seconds.

I'd say we won't see Sr. Chance as an applicant any time soon. Quelle surprise.

Opcn
23rd March 2008, 09:26 PM
I got him so flustered, its great. I never knew getting hate mail could be so fun.

William Smith
24th March 2008, 04:23 AM
I got him so flustered, its great. I never knew getting hate mail could be so fun.

Care to be more specific?

chillzero
24th March 2008, 07:30 AM
Please take that discussion to Community, perhaps. This section should focus specifically on challenges. If no challenge was made, it will be moved to Paranormal.

RemieV - any chance you could confirm if this guy made any application?

William Smith
24th March 2008, 07:44 AM
Please take that discussion to Community, perhaps. This section should focus specifically on challenges. If no challenge was made, it will be moved to Paranormal.

RemieV - any chance you could confirm if this guy made any application?

This thread should indeed be moved. Not only has there not been a proper application, there has not even been made a single coherent claim. Except for unsubstantiated meandering on his videos.

I suspect very much that Mr. Chance will not submit to a controlled test. Ever.

Opcn
24th March 2008, 08:21 AM
Initially chance made a request to be inducted into the challenge in a video, then according to another video he was accepted, then doing well. After probing on my part he became very flustered and asked his subscribers to report me. Then he put a video up stating that he had been called by someone claiming to be JREF and was tested with playing cards. Since he gives his contact information out to youtube subscribers I am willing to wager that it is someone pretending to be JREF and playing a joke on him, rather than the JREF themselves.

Dumb All Over
24th March 2008, 09:14 AM
Since he gives his contact information out to youtube subscribers I am willing to wager that it is someone pretending to be JREF and playing a joke on him, rather than the JREF themselves.
How could this possibly be the case? Certainly you would think that Chance's preeminent psychic abilities would detect the fraudulent JREF impostor.

Opcn
24th March 2008, 09:35 AM
I didn't say it would be a large wager...

William Smith
24th March 2008, 09:57 AM
Initially chance made a request to be inducted into the challenge in a video, then according to another video he was accepted, then doing well. After probing on my part he became very flustered and asked his subscribers to report me. Then he put a video up stating that he had been called by someone claiming to be JREF and was tested with playing cards. Since he gives his contact information out to youtube subscribers I am willing to wager that it is someone pretending to be JREF and playing a joke on him, rather than the JREF themselves.

That is why I asked him who he talked to. ;)

It's a comment left here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1C24osuWQqw



Wouldn't you want to know who you would have to reference to going forward towards the JREF Prize?

How dim are those "psychics" when it comes to common sense?

Opcn
24th March 2008, 03:40 PM
I sent him this message

To: itschancepsych [videos (51) | favorites (226) | friends (26)]
Sent: March 24, 2008
Read: —
Subject: You have an out, you should take it.
Message:
You admit that you were probably fooled, and apologize for being so resistant, and I will publicly apologize for making you feel harassed. This is the best possible outcome, I'll ask my skeptic crowd to back off, you will still have the skeptics you were dealing with a week and a half ago, but some of the new skeptics will have gone. Also unfortunately for Margie this drew a good deal of attention to her and many people feel that she has said some indefenseable things, so she will probably have more scrutiny for a while. You can still apply for the actual JREF MDC, although I wouldn't expect to win it if I were you (you did either allow yourself to be fooled, showing a lack of intuition, or you lied, showing that you know you aren't psychic, either way, not likely to be the first and only winner). This is the only win-win that seems to exist, goodluck.

~Brendan

And this was his reply

From: itschancepsych [videos (51) | favorites (226) | friends (26)]
Sent: March 24, 2008
Subject: I accpet
Message:
I'll clear all this up
but i'm not lieing about what i do
But i going to make a video today and clear this up

William Smith
24th March 2008, 06:45 PM
I sent him this message



And this was his reply

Oh, I'm sure he'll clear this up. The same way I am sure FOX News is an objective source of information.

As always, I'm ready to be surprised.

Opcn
24th March 2008, 07:50 PM
I think he will go on a tyrade about haters tricking him or something like that and that will fuel his drama fire enought that he can make it without me. Margie his transgendered role model gave up on me early on when she saw that I was going to be open, level headed and logical and I think he is following (his/her) suit.

nocturnous
25th March 2008, 01:06 PM
I just signed up on the board so I could tell you guys my response from Jeff after chance had claimed it was him that did the interviewing and testing in this video youtube.com/watch?v=mrMIC44tfIY



Ha.. no, not that I know of. We don't interview people. If I ever spoke with him, I'm unaware of it. I have no reason to think he's even applied.

How many African Americans are there in Africa? Not too many, I'd wager.

He did say one thing that was true. "I have unbelievable information."

Jeff

And Jeff with the lulz

Case officially closed

Zep
26th March 2008, 01:42 AM
Wha...? :confused:

Arkayik
26th March 2008, 09:11 PM
Originally posted where?

nocturnous
27th March 2008, 01:55 AM
Originally posted where?

in my email box lol

Zep
27th March 2008, 02:06 AM
...can we have that translated into English?

devnull
27th March 2008, 05:40 AM
This kid has the paranormal ability to talk out of his ass.

Gr8wight
27th March 2008, 06:18 AM
Zep,

Nocturnous, who was previously just a lurker, emailed Jeff Wagg about itschancepsych's claims. He joined the forum for the express purpose of quoting Jeff's response for our benefit. He was amused by the last line of Jeff's email back to him.


Thanks and welcome, Nocturnous.

nocturnous
27th March 2008, 09:49 AM
Zep,

Nocturnous, who was previously just a lurker, emailed Jeff Wagg about itschancepsych's claims. He joined the forum for the express purpose of quoting Jeff's response for our benefit. He was amused by the last line of Jeff's email back to him.


Thanks and welcome, Nocturnous.

Yes indeed , I mainly frequent the Sgu forums where this topic is becoming pretty legendary.

These boards don't allow me to use links until I get to 15 posts , but if anyone completes my youtube link and watches that video. Then it becomes clear what Jeff wrote.

Sorry for any confusion.

Basically the kid is a total nut job and I wouldn't recommend going into his videos or his friends videos it gets pretty disturbing. Mainly the adults that encourage it and are crazier than him.

Also he made fake Jeff Wagg youtube pages to attempt to verify his story and back him up it's pretty sad.

William Smith
31st March 2008, 02:44 PM
He removed the videos linked in this thread.

fuelair
31st March 2008, 08:48 PM
Pathetic loser already. Oh well, his choice.

nocturnous
1st April 2008, 09:22 PM
He removed the videos linked in this thread.

that's because he was pranked , they did it via web cam and posted all the tests , they made him do ridiculous things. It's hilarious and all you have to do is youtube itschancepsych and you will see the exposed tests.