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thaiboxerken
2nd October 2003, 05:39 AM
Well, Lucky claims to have superpowers. He believe the "ladybrook" word proves it. The funny thing is that no person agrees with Lucky.

Ladybrook was just a one word non-prediction that came up in an article title after he wrote it in a post. It was a dangling word that had no sentence or any meaning until Lucky gave it meaning a day later.

Can Lucky actually make a prediction? Does his superpowers only work if no one is paying attention to him? Is Lucky's powers only limited to random words tossed out at the end of posts?

I challenge Lucky to make a prediction, a real one that includes time, place and basic description of the event to happen.

Thanz
2nd October 2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by thaiboxerken
I challenge Lucky to make a prediction, a real one that includes time, place and basic description of the event to happen.
I don't think that we really need to go this far. I don't think that Lucianarchy has ever claimed to be able to do what you demand here. If he only really gets "visions" or disconnected words, or similar, we shouldn't be demanding that he do more. If I tell you I can jump really high, don't demand that I fly.

I'd be satisfied with a prediction that said "I just had vision. A word appeared to me and I think it is going to have some significance quite soon: Ladybrook"

A prediction that is labelled as such. In the "ladybrook" affair, he simply tagged it in at the end of a post. No one even noticed it until he pointed it out. If nothing happened at all, it would have been completely ignored by all. What we need is an actual prediction - labelled as a prediction. I don't care if it is a word, a place, a name - whatever. At least then we can honestly say that something was made as a prediction, and judge its value accordingly.

davidhorman
2nd October 2003, 07:25 AM
I don't think that Lucianarchy has ever claimed to be able to do what you demand here.

You don't remember the UK National Lottery threads?

David

Thanz
2nd October 2003, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by davidhorman


You don't remember the UK National Lottery threads?

David
No, I don't. I don't follow the adventures of Lucianarchy that closely.

If, however, "Ladybrook" is the best he can do, I am willing to lessen the demands to count something like that as a prediction, so long as it is clearly labelled as such.

plindboe
2nd October 2003, 09:44 AM
By the way, just thought I would mention it here. I just edited a post of mine in the thread; "Armed March Success (Breathe the Free Air!)", on the political board, and it doesn't say that the post was edited at all!!! This means that Lucianarchy could easily have edited the word "Ladybrook" in the post as soon as she heard the news. It also means that Lucianarchy is a quite deceptive individual.

plindboe
2nd October 2003, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by thaiboxerken
Can Lucky actually make a prediction? Does his superpowers only work if no one is paying attention to him? Is Lucky's powers only limited to random words tossed out at the end of posts?

I'm quite sure it wasn't randomly chosen. "Ladybrook" is frankly too rare a word. Using the razor, we come to the conclusion that it was edited after the event took place. Computers aren't always reliable. Keep that in mind when dealing with such people.

Thanz
2nd October 2003, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by plindboe
By the way, just thought I would mention it here. I just edited a post of mine in the thread; "Armed March Success (Breathe the Free Air!)", on the political board, and it doesn't say that the post was edited at all!!!
When did you originally post and when did you edit? If you edit within a short period of time (one minute, I think) after the original post, it doesn't show up as edited.

arcticpenguin
2nd October 2003, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by plindboe
By the way, just thought I would mention it here. I just edited a post of mine in the thread; "Armed March Success (Breathe the Free Air!)", on the political board, and it doesn't say that the post was edited at all!!! This means that Lucianarchy could easily have edited the word "Ladybrook" in the post as soon as she heard the news. It also means that Lucianarchy is a quite deceptive individual.
I can edit posts days later without an "edited" tag being assigned.

davidhorman
2nd October 2003, 10:15 AM
No, I don't. I don't follow the adventures of Lucianarchy that closely.

He claimed to be able to predict at least three numbers each week for three or four weeks (odds of millions to one), but refused any kind of test citing interference from the act of publishing his prediction, despite various suggestions of encryption.

I can edit posts days later without an "edited" tag being assigned.

But you can't edit the post of someone who's quoted you, which is what happened with Luci's post. There was still a short time for him to edit it though, and the forum clock was probably all over the place at the time.

David

plindboe
2nd October 2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by Thanz
When did you originally post and when did you edit? If you edit within a short period of time (one minute, I think) after the original post, it doesn't show up as edited.
It was indeed a short time. A couple of minutes. But there are probably other instances where it can be manipulated, or simply forget to show it. Computers make errors all the time.

Starrman
2nd October 2003, 11:51 AM
A different kind of luck:

- Lucy checks the web after each post, waiting for a relatively obscure location or name to show up in the news shortly after the post.

- If it does, she checks to see if anyone has replied. If not, she just types the obscure location or name in and it appears to have been predicted. If not, back to posting and waiting another chance.

- This would explain why she put only one word. It minimizes the time she takes to update her post, in case someone is replying at the same time. It also covers her if some of the details of the initial wire reports turn out to be wrong.

- Doesn't require any special computer skills, and doesn't require any paranormal powers. Ladybrook was just the perfect obscure little story that hit at the same time. If someone would have replied, she could just wait until her next post to look for another opportunity.

Anybody care to take a crack at duplicating the effect using this method?

Chupacabras
2nd October 2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by thaiboxerken
I challenge Lucky to make a prediction, a real one that includes time, place and basic description of the event to happen.

Look towards the end of the page at http://www.psicounsel.com/postinfo2.html - I also pointed to this at the Lady Broken thread. I think it qualifies fully as a prediction.

thaiboxerken
2nd October 2003, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Chupacabras


Look towards the end of the page at http://www.psicounsel.com/postinfo2.html - I also pointed to this at the Lady Broken thread. I think it qualifies fully as a prediction.

How many years ago was that prediction first made? How soon is "soon"? Luci's "prediction" is more of a desperate cry of hope, hope that more believers will side with him on the usenets.

Starrman
2nd October 2003, 01:06 PM
This (http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-rifle-recall,0,2812760.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines) story was released by AP at 3:03 EST.

I predicted it three minutes earlier here. (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1870119232#post1870119232)

Where's my million?

Chupacabras
2nd October 2003, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by thaiboxerken
How many years ago was that prediction first made? How soon is "soon"? ...
On top of the page, document dated at Aug. 9, 2001. So, at the very least, that's the date of the prediction.

Also, Luciana is quoted as saying "[These] Net Loons have about one to two years left until the tables are turned in dramatic style". Two years is 2, zwei, dos, duo. They ended roughly two months ago, in August 09, 2003.

Ratman_tf
2nd October 2003, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by plindboe

I'm quite sure it wasn't randomly chosen. "Ladybrook" is frankly too rare a word. Using the razor, we come to the conclusion that it was edited after the event took place. Computers aren't always reliable. Keep that in mind when dealing with such people.

Yes. But I find the cold hit explanation to be much simpler. If the post had been edited, it would have been different from the quoted reply.

I'll admit that Ladybrook is a much better hit than something that was already in the news (like Schwartzenneger) but I'm still way unimpressed.

I'd like to see Lucianarchy duplicate the performance. Just post his/her next perception, and mark it clearly as such, like Thanz said.

If we get more than one, I'll be willing to
take it seriously, that something is going on.

BNiles
3rd October 2003, 06:36 AM
I can't believe this is still going on. Lucianarchy is getting way too much hype here. Any publicity is good publicity. I’ve banged my head against the Lucianarchy wall one too many times, and never got a reasonable response to any of my inquiries. He/She/It always replies with That’s Psirony . A word that only Lucianarchy can define.