Obama Aide: Bill Clinton Like McCarthy

[JEROME DA GNOME]

"It sounds more like McCarthy," McPeak said. "I grew up, I was going to college when Joe McCarthy was accusing good Americans of being traitors, so I've had enough of it." (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080322/D8VI8JIO0.html)



Most voters don't know who Joseph McCarthy was. Desperation presents itself in amusing forms.

[Tsukasa Buddha]

What? Why don't you think most Americans know about McCarthy? McCarthyism is a well-known phrase.

[Redtail]

"It sounds more like McCarthy," McPeak said. "I grew up, I was going to college when Joe McCarthy was accusing good Americans of being traitors, so I've had enough of it." (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080322/D8VI8JIO0.html)



Most voters don't know who Joseph McCarthy was. Desperation presents itself in amusing forms.

What makes you think this?

[corplinx]

What? Why don't you think most Americans know about McCarthy? McCarthyism is a well-known phrase.

Jerome said most voters don't know who McCarthy is. I would be afraid to wager against him given the education system in America.

Of the voters who do know of the term McCarthyism, how many do you suppose have more than a superficial grasp of it?

[JEROME DA GNOME]

What makes you think this?

Quiz: American Students are Failing. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=109146)

* College Seniors Failed a Basic Test on America's History and Institutions.

* Colleges Stall Student Learning about America.

* America's Most Prestigious Universities Performed the Worst.

* Inadequate College Curriculum Contributes to Failure.

* Greater Learning about America Goes Hand-in-Hand with More Active Citizenship.

The overall mean for seniors was 54.2% correct answers.

[kallsop]

Just because a guy goes to a racist bigot hate America preacher for 20 years and makes a circus of not wearing a US flag lapel pin, and his wife isn't proud of America, don't question his patriotism.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Just because a guy goes to a racist bigot hate America preacher for 20 years and makes a circus of not wearing a US flag lapel pin, and his wife isn't proud of America, don't question his patriotism.

It would be unpatriotic to do so.

:gnome:

[Brainster]

Wow, I can see Clinton's comment being used in a Republican ad....

[MaGZ]

Just because a guy goes to a racist bigot hate America preacher for 20 years and makes a circus of not wearing a US flag lapel pin, and his wife isn't proud of America, don't question his patriotism.

...and he was a friend of Frank Marshal Davis when he was a teen in Hawaii.
Davis was a member of the Communist Party USA.

[KoihimeNakamura]

Routing MaGZ back to /bin/null.

McCarthyism is covered in all history classes. Quite well too.

[KoihimeNakamura]

Just because a guy goes to a racist bigot hate America preacher for 20 years

Poisoning the well; guilt by association

and makes a circus of not wearing a US flag lapel pin

Poisoning the well; wearing a flag lapel pin doesn't make you patriotic.

and his wife isn't proud of America,

Posioning the well; guilt by association; you know, you don't have to feel proud of a country if you think it does wrong..

[corplinx]

Poisoning the well; guilt by association



Poisoning the well; wearing a flag lapel pin doesn't make you patriotic.



Posioning the well; guilt by association; you know, you don't have to feel proud of a country if you think it does wrong..

Guilt by association? You don't understand the term.

An association fallacy is an inductive formal fallacy of the type hasty generalization or red herring which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, merely by an irrelevant association.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

Mentor and wife are not irrelevant associations. Of course, concluding that Obama hates America based on his pastor and wife is unjustified. However, it is troubling since these are not irrelevant associations.

You Obama apologists need to stop redefining logical fallacies to support him (e.g. Upchurch/Strawman).

[KoihimeNakamura]

I... When your preacher dictates what you think absolutely, that wil lfail to be a guilt of association ,yes.

... until then.

ETA: And when you can tell me with a straight face that a wife also indicates you are in complet esupport of all of her mental positions..

[Dr Adequate]

... and makes a circus of not wearing a US flag lapel pin ... You know, I'm not sure it was Obama who "made the circus" over him "not wearing a US flag lapel pin".

Are you wearing a US flag lapel pin? If not, the circus has a vacancy for a clown.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Oh I say. Hillary ...

http://i29.tinypic.com/24kxd79.jpg

[corplinx]

I... When your preacher dictates what you think absolutely, that wil lfail to be a guilt of association ,yes.

... until then.

ETA: And when you can tell me with a straight face that a wife also indicates you are in complet esupport of all of her mental positions..

Please re-read what I said as you seem to have skipped over the last part.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Ooh ooh.


Guilt by association. (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1081961&srvc=rss)

:cool:

[KoihimeNakamura]

Please re-read my post. I'm not explaning what I just said again.