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Oliver
23rd March 2008, 12:46 PM
Let's assume McCain has a heart attack, will be killed by Terrorists or simply get's hit by a thunderbolt tomorrow. Since Dr. Paul is the only republican candidate who's still in the race besides McCain, would that automatically makes him the parties nominee - or may others enter the presdential race at this point as well?

mortimer
23rd March 2008, 12:54 PM
No, Paul wouldn't get the nomination automatically. Let's say McCain, Romney, Huckabee, and Giuliani all are killed by a rabid dingo... Paul would still have somewhere around a 0% chance of getting the nomination.

Pardalis
23rd March 2008, 12:59 PM
McCain is a year younger than Paul, and he survived imprisonment by the Viet Cong.

Paul looks rather frail.

Loss Leader
23rd March 2008, 01:10 PM
Let's assume McCain has a heart attack, will be killed by Terrorists or simply get's hit by a thunderbolt tomorrow. Since Dr. Paul is the only republican candidate who's still in the race besides McCain, would that automatically makes him the parties nominee


No. McCain's delegates would be free to vote for whomever they wanted. They wouldn't even have to vote for a declared candidate. They could draft Donald Sutherland if they wanted to.

It would be a big mess and the party leadership would have a lot of horse-trading to do but they'd find a candidate.

The only thing that is certain is that it would not be Ron Paul.

Brainster
23rd March 2008, 05:35 PM
Ron Paul's still in the race?

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_977747e6f72a85575.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11411)

Puppycow
23rd March 2008, 07:04 PM
Ron Paul's still in the race?

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_977747e6f72a85575.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11411)

"OVER" :D

The delegates would have to choose somebody else. They would become unpledged and free to vote for whoever they think would be the best second choice. My guess is that it would probably be Romney or perhaps Giuliani.

Bododio
23rd March 2008, 07:09 PM
Rather than a heart attack, republicans should be worried about dementia setting in.

gtc
23rd March 2008, 07:27 PM
I know that delegates to the electoral college are allowed to vote for a different candidate (so called faithless delegates) but are they allowed to vote for someone who wasn't an official candidate?

I am wondering about the situation where a candidate for President dies after the election but before the college meets. I presume the candidate for Vice President from the relevant ticket becomes the candidate for President, but could the electoral college rope someone else in?

WildCat
23rd March 2008, 07:31 PM
I know that delegates to the electoral college are allowed to vote for a different candidate (so called faithless delegates) but are they allowed to vote for someone who wasn't an official candidate?

I am wondering about the situation where a candidate for President dies after the election but before the college meets. I presume the candidate for Vice President from the relevant ticket becomes the candidate for President, but could the electoral college rope someone else in?
I'm sure they could, probably the vice presidential candidate.

a_unique_person
23rd March 2008, 07:48 PM
Rather than a heart attack, republicans should be worried about dementia setting in.

Never bothered them before.

Fitter
23rd March 2008, 08:10 PM
They could draft Donald Sutherland if they wanted to.

That would be a rather silly thing to do what with him being Canadian and all.

Tricky
23rd March 2008, 08:15 PM
No, Paul wouldn't get the nomination automatically. Let's say McCain, Romney, Huckabee, and Giuliani all are killed by a rabid dingo... Paul would still have somewhere around a 0% chance of getting the nomination.
I'd vote for the rabid dingo.

BPSCG
24th March 2008, 05:23 AM
I'd vote for the rabid dingo.You've voted for worse than a rabid dingo in the past, so I don't see what would stop you now. :duck:

UserGoogol
24th March 2008, 06:04 AM
That would be a rather silly thing to do what with him being Canadian and all.

Hmm. Unless I missed something, looking at the GOP rules (http://www.gop.com/About/AboutRead.aspx?Guid=a4cc4fcb-6043-4af2-860a-41ae912a2c42) it looks like they're not explicitly prohibited from nominating someone who is ineligible to the presidency. (Although it's a "There ain't no rule that says a dog can't play basketball" sort of situation.)

gtc
24th March 2008, 06:07 AM
Which means I have as much chance as Ron Paul of becoming the Republican nominee!!!!

Loss Leader
24th March 2008, 06:15 AM
That would be a rather silly thing to do what with him being Canadian and all.



Dammitalltohell! I originally wrote Donald Pleasance but changed it when I realized he was English.

Damien Evans
24th March 2008, 06:57 AM
If they all die tomorrow Fred Thompson is back in the race.

Of course, the odds of this happening are astronomical.

Fitter
24th March 2008, 09:34 AM
Dammitalltohell! I originally wrote Donald Pleasance but changed it when I realized he was English.
Well how about this Donald (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_%22Duck%22_Dunn)? He's American born, and I'd rather listen to him than any politician.

dudalb
24th March 2008, 10:45 AM
The Ronulans are getting desperate ,aren't they?
And Oliver once again displays his briliant knowledge of the American Political Landscape:eye-poppi

Oliver
24th March 2008, 11:11 AM
I know that delegates to the electoral college are allowed to vote for a different candidate (so called faithless delegates) but are they allowed to vote for someone who wasn't an official candidate?

I am wondering about the situation where a candidate for President dies after the election but before the college meets. I presume the candidate for Vice President from the relevant ticket becomes the candidate for President, but could the electoral college rope someone else in?

Well, it wouldn't be the first time that a dead person would be elected nevertheless. Just can't remember the guys name.

And as far I know, Romney didn't end the race - he just suspended it. So I guess he could jump in whenever he wants.

Darth Rotor
24th March 2008, 02:57 PM
What if McCain dies tomorrow?


I call Cindy and let her know a younger version of pilot studhoss is available, which would be me.

(You got any idea how rich she is?)

DR



(J/K, I am happily married, but if McCain runs into my wife with his car and they both die, well, we'll meet at the joint funeral and I'll let Cupid take care of the rest. )

DR

SezMe
24th March 2008, 03:16 PM
Is Cupid gonna aim his arrows at her heart or her pocketbook? :)

Whiplash
24th March 2008, 07:17 PM
I would honestly like to know what kind of thinking could possibly lead anyone to think that asking "What if <anyone> dies tommorow?" with a smiley face is in any way appropriate at all?

It's in absolutley poor taste, even if it was about someone truly heinous and vile, I would expect people of good concience to still think it was highly inapprorpriate.

Honestly, I have to wonder what could possibly make anyone think it was even funny or appropriate in any way.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm quite sure that virtually every Democrat in existence could and would gladly rationalize it away to me and probably will in any and every response my question draws answers too.

Maybe I'll start a thread asking "What if Obama get's assassinated by white supremecists tommorow" with a big teeth grinning smiley face on it and see how that goes over with you lot.

What in the world is cute or funny (worthy of a smiley face) about this question Oliver? It's highly innapropriate.

SezMe
24th March 2008, 08:43 PM
You make a damn good point, Whiplash. Too bad you polluted it by including the fourth paragraph.

Oliver
25th March 2008, 08:23 AM
I would honestly like to know what kind of thinking could possibly lead anyone to think that asking "What if <anyone> dies tommorow?" with a smiley face is in any way appropriate at all?

It's in absolutley poor taste, even if it was about someone truly heinous and vile, I would expect people of good concience to still think it was highly inapprorpriate.

Honestly, I have to wonder what could possibly make anyone think it was even funny or appropriate in any way.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm quite sure that virtually every Democrat in existence could and would gladly rationalize it away to me and probably will in any and every response my question draws answers too.

Maybe I'll start a thread asking "What if Obama get's assassinated by white supremecists tommorow" with a big teeth grinning smiley face on it and see how that goes over with you lot.

What in the world is cute or funny (worthy of a smiley face) about this question Oliver? It's highly innapropriate.


First of all: I like sarcasm AND I'm not sure what the party-rules say nor if Romney, Huckabee etc. could jump in again.

Secondly: The "What if Osama gets assassinated" is an old discussion that was posted several times [about 1,360,000 for obama assassinated (http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&oi=dict&q=http://www.answers.com/assassinated%26r%3D67&usg=AFQjCNEX9P3XyTjG7bDWNxuJGfhlvtKd1w)] already:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=obama+assassinated&btnG=Google+Search

So I guess not willing to talk about McCains death as well makes you a racist! :D :p

Oliver
25th March 2008, 08:26 AM
BTW:

Barack Obama Assassination Watch (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=107330&highlight=obama+assassinated) http://forums.randi.org/helloworld2/misc/new_window.gif (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=107330&highlight=obama+assassinated)
Brainster (24th February 2008)

Darth Rotor
25th March 2008, 08:31 AM
You make a damn good point, Whiplash. Too bad you polluted it by including the fourth paragraph.

It is an Oliver thread.

It is by definition garbage.

Arlo Guthrie pointed out that making one big pile out of two little piles was a rational choice, Officer Obee's citation for littering notwithstanding. Thus, Whiplash was following a reasonable man course of action.

Sez, what say we get out the seein' eye dawg, with the intent of determining him seeing any value in an Oliver offering.

I'll bet the under. He'll mostly notice the smell.

DR